D Murray is undergoing Monday surgery to repair a broken left hand (1 Viewer)

[Smack Tripper]

So you really think Murray gets a full load ?

You REALLY think there isn't a chance one hit and his day is over? Maybe its all show and he plays 3 downs and sits to Randle/Dunbar? Maybe Cowboy's get up 21 at halftime and they don't NEED to risk Murray?

Lots if if's .... and maybe your league is a $2.99 championship, mine are a few hundred more. I'd say its not even 5% chance Murray gets full load, maybe 15% chance he gets 1/2 load ... 80% chance he gets less than half load which is 12-14 touches

my projection is 7-35-0

I'm sitting him I think in both my Super Bowls that I have him in assuming no news telling me any different tomorrow morning

Randle owner, don't have murrary, who REALLY could use randle.I'm concerned because logically, he should sit. But frankly the organization concerns me greatly. I could see them being bass ackward enough to chase the 2000 instead of focusing on a playoff run.

I kind of think Dallas will have this game in hand. Not much for Indy to play for and a lot of injuries. With the Indy run D that's a tasty matchup given my alternates of knile/Crowell or Polk or Juwan Thompson on the wire.

That said, I feel like Murray will get garbage time to get these stupid 2000. That's my concern rolling randle right now

I don't think Murray playing would have anything to do with 2,000 yards. They kind of need to win this game.

I think with Indy's run d, you could win with anyone running. I think I've seen scuttlebutt that he is very determined to get 2K.

Maybe I'm wrong but that's on the table as far as I'm concerned

 

[starks]

So are we Demarco owners cheering for Philly tonight? Figure it's must win if Philly takes this and that makes me feel comfortable with seeing him get around 15 carries and goal line work.

If skins win I feel like it would cast a bad outlook on him getting 7 carries or possibly not even playing at all

 

[Raider Nation]

So are we Demarco owners cheering for Philly tonight? Figure it's must win if Philly takes this and that makes me feel comfortable with seeing him get around 15 carries and goal line work.

If skins win I feel like it would cast a bad outlook on him getting 7 carries or possibly not even playing at all

Interesting. Dallas and Philly are 1-1 head-to-head. If Philly loses today, does that guarantee Dallas wins the division?

 

[starks]

So are we Demarco owners cheering for Philly tonight? Figure it's must win if Philly takes this and that makes me feel comfortable with seeing him get around 15 carries and goal line work.

If skins win I feel like it would cast a bad outlook on him getting 7 carries or possibly not even playing at all

Interesting. Dallas and Philly are 1-1 head-to-head. If Philly loses today, does that guarantee Dallas wins the division?

I think they would still have to beat the skins next week.

 

[BigBlue_RI]

You guys think Randle is worth a flex start even if Murray plays? Right now I'm leaning towards Marques Colston due to recent performance, but also have Crowell, Kelce and Landry as options.

 

[Ladsud]

So are we Demarco owners cheering for Philly tonight? Figure it's must win if Philly takes this and that makes me feel comfortable with seeing him get around 15 carries and goal line work.

If skins win I feel like it would cast a bad outlook on him getting 7 carries or possibly not even playing at all

Interesting. Dallas and Philly are 1-1 head-to-head. If Philly loses today, does that guarantee Dallas wins the division?

Dallas clinches the east with an Eagles loss and a win over the colts. The only team that would clinch anything today would be the Lions with an Eagle loss. Dallas needs to win.

 

[Dezbelief]

Dallas has to finish 1 game better than Philly. Philly will have the tiebreaker advantage.

 

[McGarnicle]

So let me see if I understand....if Murray is in the game, it's obviously not a pass play since he can't catch or block. If he runs to the left, he'll still have to hold the ball in his right hand. If he runs to the right he can't stiff-arm to his left. And no one has ever played after just 6 days from having that surgery.

It's dumb for him to play at all, obviously. Much too risky. But the Cowboys are evil and desperate, so they probably roll the dice with the kid's career. If he starts, they probably give him a normal workload until he fumbles or reinjures the hand. I don't see them limiting him much if they're reckless enough to put him out there in the first place.

 

[Steelers4Life]

So let me see if I understand....if Murray is in the game, it's obviously not a pass play since he can't catch or block. If he runs to the left, he'll still have to hold the ball in his right hand. If he runs to the right he can't stiff-arm to his left. And no one has ever played after just 6 days from having that surgery.

It's dumb for him to play at all, obviously. Much too risky. But the Cowboys are evil and desperate, so they probably roll the dice with the kid's career. If he starts, they probably give him a normal workload until he fumbles or reinjures the hand. I don't see them limiting him much if they're reckless enough to put him out there in the first place.

Not necessarily.

He was doing some pass catching in practices and the doctors have said he runs no risk of reinjuring it. It's being held together by metal that's not going to break. It'll come down to pain tolerance. They're not risking his career or his long term health at all.

There was a WR who played less than a week after this surgery - I believe it was Julio Jones while he was in college, but I might be mistaken on who it was.

I can easily see him losing a lot of 3rd down work to Dunbar, but Demarco's still probably a must-start tomorrow. The Cowboys obviously feel that a slightly limited Murray running the ball gives them a better chance to win than a Randle/Dunbar combination.

 

[carverlee]

Philly loss change anything??

 

[need2know]

They can still get a bye

 

[hines]

So let me see if I understand....if Murray is in the game, it's obviously not a pass play since he can't catch or block. If he runs to the left, he'll still have to hold the ball in his right hand. If he runs to the right he can't stiff-arm to his left. And no one has ever played after just 6 days from having that surgery.

It's dumb for him to play at all, obviously. Much too risky. But the Cowboys are evil and desperate, so they probably roll the dice with the kid's career. If he starts, they probably give him a normal workload until he fumbles or reinjures the hand. I don't see them limiting him much if they're reckless enough to put him out there in the first place.

where have you seen he can't catch or block?

also a hand injury would have essentially zero impact on his career, it would hurt the Cowboys season much more than Murray's future earnings

 

[starks]

Man wish this was a 1pm game...

OK so why should Murray go out and play hard?

They can still earn a bye but only if they win out and Det wins at GB next week, or STL wins at SEA. Not likely but possible.

But with the Philly loss did Murray's stock just go up, down or hold? (where ever that is) In other words, is he closer to sitting or losing touches because of the Philly loss?

 

[cubbie5150]

I don't think Philly's loss changes anything WRT Murray this week. JMO. Dallas needs to win, and they can't afford to take for granted that they'll win 1 of 2. How many people thought Philly would get beat by the 'Skins? Plus, Dallas already lost to the 'Skins earlier this year, so they shouldn't just assume a win week 17 against them.

 

[Ladsud]

Dallas clinches with a win, dont see them relaxing now.

 

[carverlee]

Dallas clinches with a win, dont see them relaxing now.

I don't see them relaxing either but earlier today this game was do-or-die... like starting your star RB 6 days after surgery do-or-die. Not sure it's that anymore.

Sure they'd love to have this one but reality is win 1 of your last 2 and you're in. Can't see that doesn't play into the decision at least a bit.

 

[the spanker]

Dallas clinches with a win, dont see them relaxing now.

I don't see them relaxing either but earlier today this game was do-or-die... like starting your star RB 6 days after surgery do-or-die. Not sure it's that anymore.

Sure they'd love to have this one but reality is win 1 of your last 2 and you're in. Can't see that doesn't play into the decision at least a bit.

I can't seem them taking anything for granted.

Cowboys have not made the playoffs in a while and fans would be ready to burn down the stadium if they took their pedal off the gas now and somehow came up short during week 17.

 

[T with T]

So let me see if I understand....if Murray is in the game, it's obviously not a pass play since he can't catch or block. If he runs to the left, he'll still have to hold the ball in his right hand. If he runs to the right he can't stiff-arm to his left. And no one has ever played after just 6 days from having that surgery.

It's dumb for him to play at all, obviously. Much too risky. But the Cowboys are evil and desperate, so they probably roll the dice with the kid's career. If he starts, they probably give him a normal workload until he fumbles or reinjures the hand. I don't see them limiting him much if they're reckless enough to put him out there in the first place.

U must be Playing against Murray?

 

[Smack Tripper]

They can still get a bye

technically....would need to pull the inside straight

 

[carverlee]

Dallas clinches with a win, dont see them relaxing now.

I don't see them relaxing either but earlier today this game was do-or-die... like starting your star RB 6 days after surgery do-or-die. Not sure it's that anymore.

Sure they'd love to have this one but reality is win 1 of your last 2 and you're in. Can't see that doesn't play into the decision at least a bit.

I can't seem them taking anything for granted.

Cowboys have not made the playoffs in a while and fans would be ready to burn down the stadium if they took their pedal off the gas now and somehow came up short during week 17.

As a Cowboys fan, I would view allowing Murray to play this week as a management fail. Whether he is subject to further injury or not, I don't see the reason to subject one of your MVPs to the targeting he's going to take 6 days after hand surgery. The backups have, in albeit limited duty, proven they are capable behind that line. If the staff can't trust their backups in a pinch like this, why are they the backups?

The Cowboys have essentially been in the playoffs since Thanksgiving, as every game has been a must win. With the Philly loss they actually have a game in hand. Embrace it and take the opportunity to get the core healthy and trust what you've built and get back to the grind next week if necessary.

 

[the spanker]

Dallas clinches with a win, dont see them relaxing now.

I don't see them relaxing either but earlier today this game was do-or-die... like starting your star RB 6 days after surgery do-or-die. Not sure it's that anymore.

Sure they'd love to have this one but reality is win 1 of your last 2 and you're in. Can't see that doesn't play into the decision at least a bit.

I can't seem them taking anything for granted.

Cowboys have not made the playoffs in a while and fans would be ready to burn down the stadium if they took their pedal off the gas now and somehow came up short during week 17.

As a Cowboys fan, I would view allowing Murray to play this week as a management fail. Whether he is subject to further injury or not, I don't see the reason to subject one of your MVPs to the targeting he's going to take 6 days after hand surgery. The backups have, in albeit limited duty, proven they are capable behind that line. If the staff can't trust their backups in a pinch like this, why are they the backups?

The Cowboys have essentially been in the playoffs since Thanksgiving, as every game has been a must win. With the Philly loss they actually have a game in hand. Embrace it and take the opportunity to get the core healthy and trust what you've built and get back to the grind next week if necessary.

Can't knock anything you just wrote here. It will be interesting to see if Murray or Randle starts tomorrow.

 

[Steelers4Life]

Dallas clinches with a win, dont see them relaxing now.

I don't see them relaxing either but earlier today this game was do-or-die... like starting your star RB 6 days after surgery do-or-die. Not sure it's that anymore.

Sure they'd love to have this one but reality is win 1 of your last 2 and you're in. Can't see that doesn't play into the decision at least a bit.

I can't seem them taking anything for granted.

Cowboys have not made the playoffs in a while and fans would be ready to burn down the stadium if they took their pedal off the gas now and somehow came up short during week 17.

As a Cowboys fan, I would view allowing Murray to play this week as a management fail. Whether he is subject to further injury or not, I don't see the reason to subject one of your MVPs to the targeting he's going to take 6 days after hand surgery. The backups have, in albeit limited duty, proven they are capable behind that line. If the staff can't trust their backups in a pinch like this, why are they the backups?

The Cowboys have essentially been in the playoffs since Thanksgiving, as every game has been a must win. With the Philly loss they actually have a game in hand. Embrace it and take the opportunity to get the core healthy and trust what you've built and get back to the grind next week if necessary.

Can't knock anything you just wrote here. It will be interesting to see if Murray or Randle starts tomorrow.

If the Cowboys felt their backups were capable of helping the team win, they'd have more than 60 combined carries in 14 weeks.

I expect the Cowboys to try to win the division tomorrow and hopefully use week 17 to rest up. But I don't see them wanting to put everything on winning a week 17 match-up with a team that's already beat them and has nothing to lose. Can you imagine what would happen if they bench Murray tomorrow and lose, and then lose in week 17 and miss the playoffs entirely? You clinch when you have the chance to clinch.

They aren't subjecting Murray to anything if he can't make the injury worse or re-injure it. If Demarco can take the pain and perform, apparently they'd feel more comfortable with that than having to rely on Randle and Dunbar. Assuming the reports that Murray will be starting tomorrow are true, of course.

 

[Smack Tripper]

Dallas clinches with a win, dont see them relaxing now.

I don't see them relaxing either but earlier today this game was do-or-die... like starting your star RB 6 days after surgery do-or-die. Not sure it's that anymore.

Sure they'd love to have this one but reality is win 1 of your last 2 and you're in. Can't see that doesn't play into the decision at least a bit.

I can't seem them taking anything for granted.

Cowboys have not made the playoffs in a while and fans would be ready to burn down the stadium if they took their pedal off the gas now and somehow came up short during week 17.

As a Cowboys fan, I would view allowing Murray to play this week as a management fail. Whether he is subject to further injury or not, I don't see the reason to subject one of your MVPs to the targeting he's going to take 6 days after hand surgery. The backups have, in albeit limited duty, proven they are capable behind that line. If the staff can't trust their backups in a pinch like this, why are they the backups?

The Cowboys have essentially been in the playoffs since Thanksgiving, as every game has been a must win. With the Philly loss they actually have a game in hand. Embrace it and take the opportunity to get the core healthy and trust what you've built and get back to the grind next week if necessary.

Can't knock anything you just wrote here. It will be interesting to see if Murray or Randle starts tomorrow.

If the Cowboys felt their backups were capable of helping the team win, they'd have more than 60 combined carries in 14 weeks.

I expect the Cowboys to try to win the division tomorrow and hopefully use week 17 to rest up. But I don't see them wanting to put everything on winning a week 17 match-up with a team that's already beat them and has nothing to lose. Can you imagine what would happen if they bench Murray tomorrow and lose, and then lose in week 17 and miss the playoffs entirely? You clinch when you have the chance to clinch.

They aren't subjecting Murray to anything if he can't make the injury worse or re-injure it. If Demarco can take the pain and perform, apparently they'd feel more comfortable with that than having to rely on Randle and Dunbar. Assuming the reports that Murray will be starting tomorrow are true, of course.

discretion is the better part of valor though. If one of the articles I read here is right, if he rebreaks it , you are done for the season. You have Indy this week at home with a skeleton crew but always dangerous with Luck. You have Washington next week who will be in let down mode.

I'm a giants fan, and playing him is the most cowboy thing you can do

 

[Raider Nation]

I expect the Cowboys to try to win the division tomorrow and hopefully use week 17 to rest up.

Why rest in W17? They could conceivably get a bye.

 

[Smack Tripper]

I expect the Cowboys to try to win the division tomorrow and hopefully use week 17 to rest up.

Why rest in W17? They could conceivably get a bye.

jeeze again with this bye talk...

they are very very unlikely to get a bye...

they need Green Bay to Lose to Tampa, Detroit to lose to Claussen or Seattle to lose to Lindley (or Seattle to lose at home to St. Louis).

Anything can happen, but its really hard to see any of those happening

 

[Raider Nation]

I expect the Cowboys to try to win the division tomorrow and hopefully use week 17 to rest up.

Why rest in W17? They could conceivably get a bye.

jeeze again with this bye talk...they are very very unlikely to get a bye...

they need Green Bay to Lose to Tampa, Detroit to lose to Claussen or Seattle to lose to Lindley (or Seattle to lose at home to St. Louis).

Anything can happen, but its really hard to see any of those happening

Clausen and Lindley will be out there by themselves?

 

[Raider Nation]

Your scenario is incorrect anyway. For a bye, Dallas needs:

1) Seattle to win its last two games.

and

2) GB and CHI to lose tomorrow

or

3) GB -OR- CHI to lose tomorrow, and whichever one loses tomorrow, they need to beat the other one (GB plays CHI) in W17.

Difficult, not impossible in the words of Rocco Lampone.

 

[carverlee]

Your scenario is incorrect anyway. For a bye, Dallas needs:

1) Seattle to win its last two games.

and

2) GB and CHI to lose tomorrow

or

3) GB -OR- CHI to lose tomorrow, and whichever one loses tomorrow, they need to beat the other one (GB plays CHI) in W17.

Difficult, not impossible in the words of Rocco Lampone.

Dead on except replace CHI with DET

Looks like this is a foregone conclusion anyway as it appears to be worst case scenario for Murray owners. Will play but limited. Owning both, I think I'm rolling with Randle.

 

[Raider Nation]

Your scenario is incorrect anyway. For a bye, Dallas needs:

1) Seattle to win its last two games.

and

2) GB and CHI to lose tomorrow

or

3) GB -OR- CHI to lose tomorrow, and whichever one loses tomorrow, they need to beat the other one (GB plays CHI) in W17.

Difficult, not impossible in the words of Rocco Lampone.

Dead on except replace CHI with DET

Looks like this is a foregone conclusion anyway as it appears to be worst case scenario for Murray owners. Will play but limited. Owning both, I think I'm rolling with Randle.

Yeah, DET. Brain fart. Not used to them being relevant this late in the season.

 

[McGarnicle]

So let me see if I understand....if Murray is in the game, it's obviously not a pass play since he can't catch or block. If he runs to the left, he'll still have to hold the ball in his right hand. If he runs to the right he can't stiff-arm to his left. And no one has ever played after just 6 days from having that surgery.

It's dumb for him to play at all, obviously. Much too risky. But the Cowboys are evil and desperate, so they probably roll the dice with the kid's career. If he starts, they probably give him a normal workload until he fumbles or reinjures the hand. I don't see them limiting him much if they're reckless enough to put him out there in the first place.

U must be Playing against Murray?

 

[Smack Tripper]

Your scenario is incorrect anyway. For a bye, Dallas needs:

1) Seattle to win its last two games.

and

2) GB and CHI to lose tomorrow

or

3) GB -OR- CHI to lose tomorrow, and whichever one loses tomorrow, they need to beat the other one (GB plays CHI) in W17.

Difficult, not impossible in the words of Rocco Lampone.

no my scenario was not wrong.

If Dallas, Seattle and the NFC North winner are all 12-4, Dallas is not getting a bye.

 

[Nero]

Your scenario is incorrect anyway. For a bye, Dallas needs:

1) Seattle to win its last two games.

and

2) GB and CHI to lose tomorrow

or

3) GB -OR- CHI to lose tomorrow, and whichever one loses tomorrow, they need to beat the other one (GB plays CHI) in W17.

Difficult, not impossible in the words of Rocco Lampone.

Dead on except replace CHI with DET

Looks like this is a foregone conclusion anyway as it appears to be worst case scenario for Murray owners. Will play but limited. Owning both, I think I'm rolling with Randle.

Picked up Randle and Dunbar. I don't expect to see much of Murray, so I'm rolling with Dunbar.

 

[Mr. Retukes]

Jim Abbott @jabbottum31 FollowStarting DeMarco Murray today in FF football, this hand thing shouldn't be too much of a problem.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

This is looking like it could be a disaster. Hopefully Murray is out there this drive.

 

[Jerry Curl]

This Murray guy is pretty good.

 

[Mr. Retukes]

Your scenario is incorrect anyway. For a bye, Dallas needs:

1) Seattle to win its last two games.

and

2) GB and CHI to lose tomorrow

or

3) GB -OR- CHI to lose tomorrow, and whichever one loses tomorrow, they need to beat the other one (GB plays CHI) in W17.

Difficult, not impossible in the words of Rocco Lampone.

no my scenario was not wrong.

Yes it is. You said Dallas needed Green Bay to lose to Tampa, OR Detroit needed to lose to Chicago, OR Seattle needed to lose once.

That is false.

Dallas can still get a bye if Green Bay and Detroit finish in a tie next week, or if Seattle has a tie in either of the next two weeks.

 

[heckmanm]

Jim Abbott @jabbottum31 FollowStarting DeMarco Murray today in FF football, this hand thing shouldn't be too much of a problem.

 

[Buffaloes]

Jim Abbott @jabbottum31 FollowStarting DeMarco Murray today in FF football, this hand thing shouldn't be too much of a problem.