Dallas at New England (1 Viewer)

[Mustang Man]

I think Dallas has a chance in this game. They match up well vs NE. Dallas's strength are the NE weakness, passing the ball (vs that NE DEF) and getting after the QB (getting after Brady). This game will be an interesting one. Will Dallas throw away another 4th quarter lead to the master(Brady)or does Romo play the hero? Is Dallas out matched by a team that knows how to win? Can't wait for this one. How does everyone feel about this game?

 

[SacramentoBob]

If Dallas can get to Brady as well as the Jets D did, they will have a good chance of winning. Haven't run the numbers yet for this past weekend, but Dallas was 5th in sack percentage. They don't have anyone like Revis that can shut Welker down at will. Their offense is better than the Jets also. I'd give them about a 40% chance of winning, although I dunno how you say right or wrong after the fact.

 

[SacramentoBob]

How often do 7 point underdogs win?

 

[jurb26]

Romo makes too many mistakes for me to not see this game turning into a blowout. I give Dal 20% chance at the upset.

 

[Mustang Man]

How often do 7 point underdogs win?

I DUNNO but I do know that Dallas has been in a ton of 7 point or less games. Every game this year to this point as well as a lot last season as well. So if I was a betting man....

 

[meeka]

The Cowboys do not have Revis to slow down Welker, but they face 2 wrs each day in practice that are better than Welker. That should help.

 

[Mustang Man]

Romo makes too many mistakes for me to not see this game turning into a blowout. I give Dal 20% chance at the upset.

I agree with you, if Dallas has more then 1 turnover they will lose this game. Against lesser teams Dallas can over come the turnovers(Washington and 49ers). NE is a very good team and will take advantage of TO'S.

 

[footballnerd]

take the over

 

[SacramentoBob]

Looks like the Cowboys are being give the same odds that the Dolphins had week 1. Ooof.

 

[Mustang Man]

Early poll returns say NE pulls away in the 4th and win by 10+. 80% SAY NE win

Kinda thought that would be the way it would go, although 80% is a bit high.

 

[jurb26]

Romo makes too many mistakes for me to not see this game turning into a blowout. I give Dal 20% chance at the upset.

I agree with you, if Dallas has more then 1 turnover they will lose this game. Against lesser teams Dallas can over come the turnovers(Washington and 49ers). NE is a very good team and will take advantage of TO'S.

I should ad that my 20% chance is largely on Romo's shoulders. If he plays mistake free then Dal can win this game as NE shouldn't be able to stop the Dal offense. Romo is capable of it. He is just too jekyll and hyde for me to give that more than a 20% chance.

 

[Mustang Man]

The Cowboys do not have Revis to slow down Welker, but they face 2 wrs each day in practice that are better than Welker. That should help.

Well neither DEZ OR AUSTIN have practiced to much this year but they are both healthy going in to this game. That is a big deal

 

[Mustang Man]

Romo makes too many mistakes for me to not see this game turning into a blowout. I give Dal 20% chance at the upset.

I agree with you, if Dallas has more then 1 turnover they will lose this game. Against lesser teams Dallas can over come the turnovers(Washington and 49ers). NE is a very good team and will take advantage of TO'S.

I should ad that my 20% chance is largely on Romo's shoulders. If he plays mistake free then Dal can win this game as NE shouldn't be able to stop the Dal offense. Romo is capable of it. He is just too jekyll and hyde for me to give that more than a 20% chance.

I put it at 50% sense that is the Jekyll and Hyde % this year LOL

 

[packersfan]

take the over

Both passing offenses could put up sick numbers.

 

[Mustang Man]

take the over

Both passing offenses could put up sick numbers.

That seems to be what everyone thinks but didn't Rob Ryan play NE recently as the D coordinator of Cleveland and shut down the Pats. Just saying. I love me some Rob Ryan!! NO HOMO!

 

[packersfan]

take the over

Both passing offenses could put up sick numbers.

That seems to be what everyone thinks but didn't Rob Ryan play NE recently as the D coordinator of Cleveland and shut down the Pats. Just saying. I love me some Rob Ryan!! NO HOMO!

Even if the Cowboys somehow shut down Brady (which I can't see happening), I don't see any way the Patriots shut down the Cowboys' passing attack. New England's pass defense is putrid. Romo, Austin, Bryant and Witten are all outstanding options this week. They're great options every week but they all have the potential to put up insane numbers on Sunday in my opinion.

 

[ponchsox]

I suspect a pretty high scoring game. Dallas can hold their own offensively. 38-30 New England. The Pats do not lose at home during the regular season.

 

[Run It Up]

New England gets ahead early, shuts it down in the 3rd.

 

[David Yudkin]

I suspect a pretty high scoring game. Dallas can hold their own offensively. 38-30 New England. The Pats do not lose at home during the regular season.

The last time Brady lost a regular season home game was against the Jets in 2006.

 

[Mustang Man]

I suspect a pretty high scoring game. Dallas can hold their own offensively. 38-30 New England. The Pats do not lose at home during the regular season.

Funny cause I predicted the same score in the Cowboys thread but just flip the scores 38-30 Dallas. The Streak has to end at some point. NE is crazy silly at home though.

 

[footballnerd]

take the over

Both passing offenses could put up sick numbers.

That seems to be what everyone thinks but didn't Rob Ryan play NE recently as the D coordinator of Cleveland and shut down the Pats. Just saying. I love me some Rob Ryan!! NO HOMO!

Even if the Cowboys somehow shut down Brady (which I can't see happening), I don't see any way the Patriots shut down the Cowboys' passing attack. New England's pass defense is putrid. Romo, Austin, Bryant and Witten are all outstanding options this week. They're great options every week but they all have the potential to put up insane numbers on Sunday in my opinion.

Always chance for the Pats to score on the other side of the ball with Romo at the helm, either way adds to the total.

 

[Mustang Man]

I suspect a pretty high scoring game. Dallas can hold their own offensively. 38-30 New England. The Pats do not lose at home during the regular season.

The last time Brady lost a regular season home game was against the Jets in 2006.

So their last 2 home losses are to the Jet's huh. Interesting. Maybe they have a let down after the big division win, on second thought I doubt it but one can hope.

 

[Mustang Man]

I suspect a pretty high scoring game. Dallas can hold their own offensively. 38-30 New England. The Pats do not lose at home during the regular season.

Funny thing is the defense has been great this year as well, it is the TO'S that have killed this team SHort field or just plain scoring off the TO's is pretty much half the points vs this defense this year.. The Dallas defense is much better then the NE DEF. TO's will determine if Dallas has a chance.

 

[David Yudkin]

I suspect a pretty high scoring game. Dallas can hold their own offensively. 38-30 New England. The Pats do not lose at home during the regular season.

The last time Brady lost a regular season home game was against the Jets in 2006.

So their last 2 home losses are to the Jet's huh. Interesting. Maybe they have a let down after the big division win, on second thought I doubt it but one can hope.

There was also the playoff loss to BAL. So his "consecutive regular season winning streak" really doesn't mean too much.

 

[Mustang Man]

I suspect a pretty high scoring game. Dallas can hold their own offensively. 38-30 New England. The Pats do not lose at home during the regular season.

The last time Brady lost a regular season home game was against the Jets in 2006.

So their last 2 home losses are to the Jet's huh. Interesting. Maybe they have a let down after the big division win, on second thought I doubt it but one can hope.

There was also the playoff loss to BAL. So his "consecutive regular season winning streak" really doesn't mean too much.

They lost to the Jets in the playoffs at home last season right?

 

[AngryPatriot]

I'm glad I have Brady in 3 leagues, monster # game. Pats handily in this one.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Advanced NFL stats has the Cowboys as the best team in the league.

http://www.advancednflstats.com/2011/10/team-rankings-week-6.html

Dallas is a tough game for every team, NE included.

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

Watch Mangini's piece on NFL Live. Rob Ryan shut down Brady while defensive coordinator at Cleveland. And he didnt have DeMarcus Ware then.

On the flip side, Dallas's secondary is nothing special. Terence Newman is roughly as good as Rasheed Mathis. In other words, secondary production for Dallas is a function of pass rush, which in the subject case is mitigated by NE having the best o-line in the league (now that Chad Clifton is hurt).

The Cowboys have a 40% chance of winning. It would be higher if Kitna was the starting QB in Dallas.

I love Dallas +7 here, but I suspect it will drop to NE -4.5 by kickoff.

NE 30

DAL 27

Oh and can we please avoid moronic statements like Dallas having 2 WRs better than Wes Welker? kthanxbye.

 

[SacramentoBob]

Advanced NFL stats has the Cowboys as the best team in the league.http://www.advancednflstats.com/2011/10/team-rankings-week-6.htmlDallas is a tough game for every team, NE included.

I was surprised to see that earlier.

 

[SacramentoBob]

Watch Mangini's piece on NFL Live. Rob Ryan shut down Brady while defensive coordinator at Cleveland. And he didnt have DeMarcus Ware then.

On the flip side, Dallas's secondary is nothing special. Terence Newman is roughly as good as Rasheed Mathis. In other words, secondary production for Dallas is a function of pass rush, which in the subject case is mitigated by NE having the best o-line in the league (now that Chad Clifton is hurt).

The Cowboys have a 40% chance of winning. It would be higher if Kitna was the starting QB in Dallas.

I love Dallas +7 here, but I suspect it will drop to NE -4.5 by kickoff.

NE 30

DAL 27

Oh and can we please avoid moronic statements like Dallas having 2 WRs better than Wes Welker? kthanxbye.

Good point. They have 3.

 

[packersfan]

Oh and can we please avoid moronic statements like Dallas having 2 WRs better than Wes Welker? kthanxbye.

I'm guessing it was a joke and a reference to Rob Ryan's idiotic statement that the Cowboys have two WRs better than Calvin Johnson.

 

[jurb26]

Oh and can we please avoid moronic statements like Dallas having 2 WRs better than Wes Welker? kthanxbye.

I'm guessing it was a joke and a reference to Rob Ryan's idiotic statement that the Cowboys have two WRs better than Calvin Johnson.

That really had to be pointed out.....

 

[SacramentoBob]

Oh and can we please avoid moronic statements like Dallas having 2 WRs better than Wes Welker? kthanxbye.

I'm guessing it was a joke and a reference to Rob Ryan's idiotic statement that the Cowboys have two WRs better than Calvin Johnson.

That really had to be pointed out.....

You know how those Pats fans are.

 

[Road Warriors]

The Cowboys do not have Revis to slow down Welker, but they face 2 wrs each day in practice that are better than Welker. That should help.

Welker gets no respect.

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

Oh and can we please avoid moronic statements like Dallas having 2 WRs better than Wes Welker? kthanxbye.

I'm guessing it was a joke and a reference to Rob Ryan's idiotic statement that the Cowboys have two WRs better than Calvin Johnson.

That really had to be pointed out.....

oh yeah; i forgot. guess i dont pay much attention to the dallas franchise anymore.

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

Oh and can we please avoid moronic statements like Dallas having 2 WRs better than Wes Welker? kthanxbye.

I'm guessing it was a joke and a reference to Rob Ryan's idiotic statement that the Cowboys have two WRs better than Calvin Johnson.

That really had to be pointed out.....

You know how those Pats fans are.

 

[The Jerk]

So their last 2 home losses are to the Jet's huh. Interesting. Maybe they have a let down after the big division win, on second thought I doubt it but one can hope.

There was also the playoff loss to BAL. So his "consecutive regular season winning streak" really doesn't mean too much.

Brady's last three home losses are Jets regular season 2006, Ravens 2009 playoffs, Jets 2010 playoffs.The Patriots lost three home games in 2008 without Brady: Dolphins (wildcat debut, Brown's 4 TDs rushing plus TD pass), Jets in OT, SteelersPlayoff success or not, it's still an impressive feat, and fairly relevant in suggesting the winner this week.

 

[The Jerk]

Advanced NFL stats has the Cowboys as the best team in the league.http://www.advancednflstats.com/2011/10/team-rankings-week-6.htmlDallas is a tough game for every team, NE included.

It's hard for this Steeler fan to put much credibility into this metric when the Steelers are listed above the Packers, Ravens, and Patriots.

 

[Mustang Man]

Watch Mangini's piece on NFL Live. Rob Ryan shut down Brady while defensive coordinator at Cleveland. And he didnt have DeMarcus Ware then.On the flip side, Dallas's secondary is nothing special. Terence Newman is roughly as good as Rasheed Mathis. In other words, secondary production for Dallas is a function of pass rush, which in the subject case is mitigated by NE having the best o-line in the league (now that Chad Clifton is hurt).The Cowboys have a 40% chance of winning. It would be higher if Kitna was the starting QB in Dallas.I love Dallas +7 here, but I suspect it will drop to NE -4.5 by kickoff.NE 30DAL 27Oh and can we please avoid moronic statements like Dallas having 2 WRs better than Wes Welker? kthanxbye.

I agree with everything you said except the crazy comment about Kitna. That is just very wrong. Dallas would have zero chance to win this game if Kitna was the QB. Man this national media have people brain washed.

 

[thayman]

I suspect a pretty high scoring game. Dallas can hold their own offensively. 38-30 New England. The Pats do not lose at home during the regular season.

Funny thing is the defense has been great this year as well, it is the TO'S that have killed this team SHort field or just plain scoring off the TO's is pretty much half the points vs this defense this year.. The Dallas defense is much better then the NE DEF. TO's will determine if Dallas has a chance.

Lots of turnovers by an offense tends to make the defense look at lot better than it really is.

 

[Mustang Man]

I suspect a pretty high scoring game. Dallas can hold their own offensively. 38-30 New England. The Pats do not lose at home during the regular season.

Funny thing is the defense has been great this year as well, it is the TO'S that have killed this team SHort field or just plain scoring off the TO's is pretty much half the points vs this defense this year.. The Dallas defense is much better then the NE DEF. TO's will determine if Dallas has a chance.

Lots of turnovers by an offense tends to make the defense look at lot better than it really is.

OK if that is what you think, but the defense has really played well this year. I mean Detroit was shut down and they score 21 points off turnovers. 2 directly from the int's and the other they had a short field. The Dallas D has been improved 10 fold from last year and will only get better. Now that is not saying they don't get torched this week possibly but NE does that to everyone. Let's not come back in here if NE does that and say I told ya so. Rob Ryan knows how to coach defense and is doing a great job with this unit.

 

[cubbie5150]

Not a fan of either team, but I voted Dallas w/ a 30% chance to win on a late drive. I actually think this will be much lower scoring than the public seems to think (mostly b/c I like going against the public), as NEP have shown a trend to run the ball more the past couple weeks & Rob Ryan's defense will find a way to slow down Brady by limiting the run game & using pressure to prevet big plays in the passing game. I think Romo will be solid between the 20's most of the game, but stall in the RZ, leading to Cowboys FGs until his final drive when he finally gets them in the endzone. It's not gonna be the fantasy bonanza many (including me) need it to be.

Cowboys win 22-20

 

[meeka]

The Cowboys do not have Revis to slow down Welker, but they face 2 wrs each day in practice that are better than Welker. That should help.

Welker gets no respect.

It was a joke. See above.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

Advanced NFL stats has the Cowboys as the best team in the league.http://www.advancednflstats.com/2011/10/team-rankings-week-6.htmlDallas is a tough game for every team, NE included.

I agree, Dallas isn't an easy win for anyone. Their defense has played solid and they should be a lot healthier coming off the buy. The Patriots should be and are the favorites but if they don't bring their "A" game, then the Cowboys could steal it.Tony Romo will have 300 yards and 3 Td's vs. New England, he'll play fine. Can Dallas put any pressure on Tom Brady, enough to keep him uncomfortable? I don't know.

 

[thayman]

I suspect a pretty high scoring game. Dallas can hold their own offensively. 38-30 New England. The Pats do not lose at home during the regular season.

Funny thing is the defense has been great this year as well, it is the TO'S that have killed this team SHort field or just plain scoring off the TO's is pretty much half the points vs this defense this year.. The Dallas defense is much better then the NE DEF. TO's will determine if Dallas has a chance.

Lots of turnovers by an offense tends to make the defense look at lot better than it really is.

OK if that is what you think, but the defense has really played well this year. I mean Detroit was shut down and they score 21 points off turnovers. 2 directly from the int's and the other they had a short field. The Dallas D has been improved 10 fold from last year and will only get better. Now that is not saying they don't get torched this week possibly but NE does that to everyone. Let's not come back in here if NE does that and say I told ya so. Rob Ryan knows how to coach defense and is doing a great job with this unit.

Well they are 4th in YPG but that will get skewed since the offense puts them in a bad spot. I'm not saying they are awful, but it's something to keep in mind when looking at the numbers.

 

[Manster]

I think NE wins, BUT, Dallas could definately steal this one.

NE has a porous D, but they are at home

Dallas' D has been playing at a high level, but they are on the road.

Both teams can put up points in a hurry.

Its pretty simple for Dallas. Romo and the Cowboys cant turn the ball over, and Rob Ryan's D needs to get to Brady.

Also, I'd like to see Garrett commit to the run more.