Dare sit Kurt Warner this week? (1 Viewer)

[Tigerbot Hesh]

If you're thinking about starting Warner this week, I think you have to keep a close eye on the weather. When I've seen him play, he seems to have trouble holding onto the ball when it's wet/rainy. I don't know what kind of effect snow would have, but I have my worries. Also, given the way his turnover numbers have been trending recently, I can't shake the feeling that it's time for one of his horrible 5+ turnover games. He ususally has good yardage numbers in those games, but if your league penalizes interceptions and fumbles then it can be a wash.

 

[Deuce'sWild]

Warner wears gloves every game on both hands because in an attempt to get a better feel on the ball and reduce his fumbles. With a snow and freezing temps forecast, those gloves with a frozen ball might be very slippery. I don't know, just typing as I think.

 

[Deuce'sWild]

If Jeff Garcia plays, vs a very suspect SD secondary, is he a better play than Warner?

 

[RippedCat]

Guess I have to pray for good weather because my other option is Thigpen.

Me too, although Garcia is available in my league..wondering the same thing as above

 

[blenderfrog]

I have the exact same problem - Warner or Schaub.So, Kurt heads into New England to face the best defensive mind in the NFL - but at least he has a good running game... not.

The Patriots D is banged up. Oakland put up 27 points against them last weekend.

Agreed the weather could be a concern but not NE's D they are pathetic.

If the weather was decent, I think both teams could put up 30+ points. Bad weather, I'd consider Schaub, but it's a tough WDIS.

 

[gradin123]

The Patriots secondary is really banged up so on paper it's a good matchup. But, like many have said the weather will likely be an issue.

It is suppose to be cold, snowy and windy.

Also, I really don't think Boldin will play this week. Because of the loss to the Vikings last week the Cardinals are nearly locked into the 4th seed.

He didn't practice today and I don't see him playing given the circumstances.

From the Arizona Central website.

"Boldin hopes to be able to play on Sunday if the pain and swelling subside enough"

My question then is does it make sense to play banged up players in bad weather in a near meaningless game? None whatsoever in my view.

In fact, if the Cardinals are going to rest players in the next 2 weeks it would almost seem to make more sense to rest just about everyone this week and then they can use the game against Seattle at home as a tuneup for the playoffs.

Now maybe they want to prove they can play in bad conditions but that isn't really a smart justification for going all out this week.

I certainly could envision a scenario right now where Warner is perhaps rested at some point in this weeks game so I certainly wouldn't start him.

 

[mike11162]

I think I'm sitting Warner for Favre. Facing 32nd ranked pass defense. Not 100% sure yet though.

 

[taz]

The extended forecast doesn't sound good. Snow is one thing, but snow and freezing rain makes for some nasty conditions.

Saturday Night...Snow showers...mainly after midnight. Additional light snow accumulation. Near steady temperature 15 to 20. Chance of snow 90 percent.

Sunday...Snow and freezing rain in the morning...then rain in the afternoon. Additional light snow accumulation. Not as cool with highs in the lower 40s. Chance of precipitation near 100 percent.

http://weather.boston.com/extended.htmlI also own Thigpen and Delhomme, and may even grab Orlovsky - I'll see if there's any more indication Warner may sit part of the game.

 

[stingy]

Do people like McNabb over Warner? Donovan certainly looks really good right now.

 

[Incogneto]

Warner #1 on the FBGs cheatsheets.

 

[Northern_Keeper]

Warner #1 on the FBGs cheatsheets.

this is crushing, Warner got me to the championship game and now I might be stuck starting Shaun Hill or Dan Orlvosky vs. Drew Brees

 

[omally]

I also own Thigpen and Delhomme, and may even grab Orlovsky - I'll see if there's any more indication Warner may sit part of the game.

anymore indication? there has been zero indication that warner will sit part of the game.

 

[Deuce'sWild]

Warner #1 on the FBGs cheatsheets.

I can't comprehend this for the life of me. Playing in very bad weather, possibly without one of his stud WRs, his stats have been on the decline for the past 4 weeks....just doesn't look like the #1 fantasy QB this week to me.

 

[the spanker]

Warner #1 on the FBGs cheatsheets.

I can't comprehend this for the life of me. Playing in very bad weather, possibly without one of his stud WRs, his stats have been on the decline for the past 4 weeks....just doesn't look like the #1 fantasy QB this week to me.

Playing the pathetic NE D is a bonus though if winds aren't bad.

 

[LionsFan78]

Warner #1 on the FBGs cheatsheets.

I can't comprehend this for the life of me. Playing in very bad weather, possibly without one of his stud WRs, his stats have been on the decline for the past 4 weeks....just doesn't look like the #1 fantasy QB this week to me.

What's even crazier to me is who's right behind him at #2

 

[SayWhat?]

Warner #1 on the FBGs cheatsheets.

I can't comprehend this for the life of me. Playing in very bad weather, possibly without one of his stud WRs, his stats have been on the decline for the past 4 weeks....just doesn't look like the #1 fantasy QB this week to me.

What's even crazier to me is who's right behind him at #2

I don't really have a big issue with who is ranked #2 this week. He's basically been on a tear of late and plays one of the worst pass D's in the league. Just look at who tore that pass D up last week and tell me you don't think the #2 ranked QB by FBG could do the same this week. That being said, I'm not typically one to criticize anything FBG's does, as I'm extremely appreciative of the amount of work that goes into this site and the content. But I feel a pressing need to say that the QB rankings for this week look like they were drawn out of a hat. I get that there's some shock factor involved, but if you think that the likes of Seneca Wallace and Kyle Orton (against any defense) are better options than someone like Peyton Manning, by a long shot apparently if you at all believe in these rankings, then you're probably not playing in your league's title game anyways. Heck, throw a potential game-time scratch in Jeff Garcia into that mix as well. Those are three of FBG's top 10 QB's this week? Ugh. Those QB rankings were a complete waste of time by whomever put them together for Week 16.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Warner #1 on the FBGs cheatsheets.

I can't comprehend this for the life of me. Playing in very bad weather, possibly without one of his stud WRs, his stats have been on the decline for the past 4 weeks....just doesn't look like the #1 fantasy QB this week to me.

What's even crazier to me is who's right behind him at #2

why is that crazy? It's way too early to know what the weather on sunday is gonna be and Cassel has been on fire and Arz pass D is horrible

 

[LionsFan78]

Warner #1 on the FBGs cheatsheets.

I can't comprehend this for the life of me. Playing in very bad weather, possibly without one of his stud WRs, his stats have been on the decline for the past 4 weeks....just doesn't look like the #1 fantasy QB this week to me.

What's even crazier to me is who's right behind him at #2

why is that crazy? It's way too early to know what the weather on sunday is gonna be and Cassel has been on fire and Arz pass D is horrible

I don't really mean it in a bad way. "Surprised" mabye the better word, esp. considering some of the names he's ahead of.

 

[thatguythere]

The forecast is changing every time I look at it. I'm not going to worry about it until Sunday morning.

Highs are now in the low 40's, but there is still a 75% chance of rain at gametime.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

The forecast is changing every time I look at it. I'm not going to worry about it until Sunday morning.Highs are now in the low 40's, but there is still a 75% chance of rain at gametime.

I keep thinking of that stupid Seattle v Philly forecast early this year that I overcoached it an benched McNabb. Dont worry about it until sunday

 

[thatguythere]

The forecast is changing every time I look at it. I'm not going to worry about it until Sunday morning.

Highs are now in the low 40's, but there is still a 75% chance of rain at gametime.

I keep thinking of that stupid Seattle v Philly forecast early this year that I overcoached it an benched McNabb. Dont worry about it until sunday

The bad decisions come when you sit and think about it all week long and over analyze the situation. In 2004 I had Jake Plummer as my QB and made the championship. Billy Volek was lighting the world on fire and was still sitting on the waiver wire, the three weeks prior he had put up 16, 24, 29 in a TD heavy league. Plummer was the suck -4,-2, 5 in those 3 weeks. I hemmed and hawed all week what to do and convinced myself that Volek was the better play vs Denver, instead of Plummer vs. Tennessee.

I lost by 10...........Volek -2 Plummer 12

 

[joeski]

The forecast is changing every time I look at it. I'm not going to worry about it until Sunday morning.Highs are now in the low 40's, but there is still a 75% chance of rain at gametime.

I keep thinking of that stupid Seattle v Philly forecast early this year that I overcoached it an benched McNabb. Dont worry about it until sunday

I'd like too but Peyton starts tonight and Warner is on Sunday. After much I'm going with Warner.

 

[shims3]

Let's talk Warner a little more with the news of Boldin possibly sitting. Does he value drop? Is he a riskier start now?

 

[thatguythere]

Let's talk Warner a little more with the news of Boldin possibly sitting. Does he value drop? Is he a riskier start now?

Something has been up with Boldin for the last few weeks and Breaston has been outplaying him anyway. He has been having uncharacteristic drops on easily catchable balls, and he has had a some costly turnovers. Boldin isn't playing well at all right now. It looks like the weather has changed again, and is back to temps cold enough to snow. I think Warner will be better off if the precip is all snow, instead of rain. The one concern I have is the winds. They are forecasted to be 20 - 30 mph. The way the weather has been changing each day though, my decision won't be made until I actually see the weather an hour or so before gametime.

 

[shims3]

Let's talk Warner a little more with the news of Boldin possibly sitting. Does he value drop? Is he a riskier start now?

Something has been up with Boldin for the last few weeks and Breaston has been outplaying him anyway. He has been having uncharacteristic drops on easily catchable balls, and he has had a some costly turnovers. Boldin isn't playing well at all right now. It looks like the weather has changed again, and is back to temps cold enough to snow. I think Warner will be better off if the precip is all snow, instead of rain. The one concern I have is the winds. They are forecasted to be 20 - 30 mph. The way the weather has been changing each day though, my decision won't be made until I actually see the weather an hour or so before gametime.

Well over the past two weeks, Warner has not been anything special. I think the Boldin injury has something to do with it.

 

[Cleat Spike]

The forecast is changing every time I look at it. I'm not going to worry about it until Sunday morning.

Highs are now in the low 40's, but there is still a 75% chance of rain at gametime.

I keep thinking of that stupid Seattle v Philly forecast early this year that I overcoached it an benched McNabb. Dont worry about it until sunday

The bad decisions come when you sit and think about it all week long and over analyze the situation. In 2004 I had Jake Plummer as my QB and made the championship. Billy Volek was lighting the world on fire and was still sitting on the waiver wire, the three weeks prior he had put up 16, 24, 29 in a TD heavy league. Plummer was the suck -4,-2, 5 in those 3 weeks. I hemmed and hawed all week what to do and convinced myself that Volek was the better play vs Denver, instead of Plummer vs. Tennessee.

I lost by 10...........Volek -2 Plummer 12

I got Volek'd that year too! It's something that you never forget. Like the OJ chase, you just always remembe the details of where you were!

 

[thatguythere]

Let's talk Warner a little more with the news of Boldin possibly sitting. Does he value drop? Is he a riskier start now?

Something has been up with Boldin for the last few weeks and Breaston has been outplaying him anyway. He has been having uncharacteristic drops on easily catchable balls, and he has had a some costly turnovers. Boldin isn't playing well at all right now. It looks like the weather has changed again, and is back to temps cold enough to snow. I think Warner will be better off if the precip is all snow, instead of rain. The one concern I have is the winds. They are forecasted to be 20 - 30 mph. The way the weather has been changing each day though, my decision won't be made until I actually see the weather an hour or so before gametime.

Well over the past two weeks, Warner has not been anything special. I think the Boldin injury has something to do with it.

Yep, they are doubling Fitz and Boldin isn't beating anybody. The last couple weeks the big plays have been Breaston and Urban. Maybe things change a little with Breaston moving to AB's spot this week. Cross your fingers and toes that the big storm moving onto the east coast picks up some steam and runs itself out of there by Sunday. Doubt it, but you never know.

 

[Kegs & Eggs]

I'm seriously thinking about avoiding this whole situation and starting Ryan instead. It's so tough to bail on KW though.

 

[Leroy's Aces]

I just read this on Rotoworld:

Anquan Boldin is listed as questionable on the Cardinals' Week 16 injury report, but he did not practice at all this week and coach Ken Whisenhunt doesn't typically use players on game day that have taken no reps. Boldin is dealing with a shoulder injury, the extent of which is unknown. Because Arizona doesn't have anything left to play for -- a first-round bye cannot be clinched and the club has already won the NFC West -- it's very likely that Boldin will sit out at New England. It wouldn't make sense for the Cards to risk him beating his shoulder into the frozen Foxboro ground. Look for Steve Breaston to start across from Larry Fitzgerald and Jerheme Urban to stand in as the third receiver.

If the Cards get down a couple of scores early, don't be surprised to see some Matt Leinart either. Whisenhunt has made it clear that he doesn't plan to take any chances Sunday. His team has very little experience playing in poor weather and Whiz wants his key guys ready to go in January.

Now this appears to be pure speculation by the writer, Evan Silva, who looks like he's about 19 years old.

Has ANYONE heard from a reliable source that Whizenhunt is considering benching Warner if they get behind, let's say 21-7? Whiz seems like the type of guy that hints at what he plans to do (a la Boldin - we have to be smart, etc.), but he has given no indication that he plans to sit Warner. In fact, he has spoken about how they need to have momentum for the playoffs. If Warner exiting early is a real possibility, all fantasy services should be downgrading Warner A LOT due to the chances of this occurring. Any FBG staffers care to weigh in and tell us that you have heard NOTHING indicating that Warner could be benched if they get down?

Has anyone heard anything? Any local news speculation?

 

[duece2626]

Unless they are down 3 TD"s late in the game, I can't see them sitting anyone, IMO.

 

[NajehHejan]

I just read this on Rotoworld:Anquan Boldin is listed as questionable on the Cardinals' Week 16 injury report, but he did not practice at all this week and coach Ken Whisenhunt doesn't typically use players on game day that have taken no reps. Boldin is dealing with a shoulder injury, the extent of which is unknown. Because Arizona doesn't have anything left to play for -- a first-round bye cannot be clinched and the club has already won the NFC West -- it's very likely that Boldin will sit out at New England. It wouldn't make sense for the Cards to risk him beating his shoulder into the frozen Foxboro ground. Look for Steve Breaston to start across from Larry Fitzgerald and Jerheme Urban to stand in as the third receiver.If the Cards get down a couple of scores early, don't be surprised to see some Matt Leinart either. Whisenhunt has made it clear that he doesn't plan to take any chances Sunday. His team has very little experience playing in poor weather and Whiz wants his key guys ready to go in January.Now this appears to be pure speculation by the writer, Evan Silva, who looks like he's about 19 years old. Has ANYONE heard from a reliable source that Whizenhunt is considering benching Warner if they get behind, let's say 21-7? Whiz seems like the type of guy that hints at what he plans to do (a la Boldin - we have to be smart, etc.), but he has given no indication that he plans to sit Warner. In fact, he has spoken about how they need to have momentum for the playoffs. If Warner exiting early is a real possibility, all fantasy services should be downgrading Warner A LOT due to the chances of this occurring. Any FBG staffers care to weigh in and tell us that you have heard NOTHING indicating that Warner could be benched if they get down? Has anyone heard anything? Any local news speculation?

I just read that Silva article and came onto this thread for the specific purpose of asking the same question. I think this is raggy speculative bunk but I'm too scared to not heed it. Any insight from any Cards homers? I really don't want to start Danny O over KW.

 

[Buffaloes]

Man this guy has been money all year, but the weather conditions in NE are looking nasty this weekend. Considering Schaub at Oakland in his place. Anyone else have the same dilemma?

Pretty sure I'm rolling with Schaub over Warner this week.

 

[Leroy's Aces]

I am between Warner and Rivers in the NBC Primetime Event championship round. First place is $100K and second is $15K, so it is only a decision that could impact me to the tune of $85K . It would be nice to hear from some FBG staffers regarding why Warner is ranked so high IF his getting pulled is a possibility.

 

[taz]

I am between Warner and Rivers in the NBC Primetime Event championship round. First place is $100K and second is $15K, so it is only a decision that could impact me to the tune of $85K . It would be nice to hear from some FBG staffers regarding why Warner is ranked so high IF his getting pulled is a possibility.

And I thought the stakes were high for my game. Dude, all the best of luck.

 

[the spanker]

I am between Warner and Rivers in the NBC Primetime Event championship round. First place is $100K and second is $15K, so it is only a decision that could impact me to the tune of $85K . It would be nice to hear from some FBG staffers regarding why Warner is ranked so high IF his getting pulled is a possibility.

And I thought the stakes were high for my game. Dude, all the best of luck.

Your not kidding. WOW

 

[Leroy's Aces]

I am between Warner and Rivers in the NBC Primetime Event championship round. First place is $100K and second is $15K, so it is only a decision that could impact me to the tune of $85K . It would be nice to hear from some FBG staffers regarding why Warner is ranked so high IF his getting pulled is a possibility.

And I thought the stakes were high for my game. Dude, all the best of luck.

Your not kidding. WOW

Thanks guys, I need the good vibes! It is 6 points per passing TD, so I would love to be able to start Warner against New England, but have not gotten any good info out of whether or not the coach would pull Warner if they fall behind 21-7, which is possible given the New England offense and Arizona's pathetic defense. And the rankings should factor in the possibility of these types of issues, hence the desire to hear some reasoning behind Warner still being a top 6 start. (And to answer any possible questions, yes, this is stressful as hell, and NO, I am not enjoying the ride. )

 

[boilerdave]

Good Luck Leroy...

 

[the spanker]

HAHAHAHA..A lot of people said PATS D would be a good play this week because they have something to play for.

All Ravens need to take care of business at home vs. Jax next week and they're the #6 seed.

I wonder how that may affect the PATS tomorrow?

 

[Dragon1952]

I seriously doubt if the Pats will just say 'oh well....Baltimore is going to win next week so what's the use' Besides that, they can still win the division!

 

[Scruff Mcgruff]

Considering Orlovsky over Warner

I'm considering the same and have been all week. still haven't made my mind up yet.

 

[iowapatriot77]

Man this guy has been money all year, but the weather conditions in NE are looking nasty this weekend. Considering Schaub at Oakland in his place. Anyone else have the same dilemma?

Pretty sure I'm rolling with Schaub over Warner this week.

Same here. Got Warner in a WW pick up before the season. Got me this far, but I drafted Schaub then cut him and got him back this week. Rolling the dice but I am starting Schaub tomorrow for league championship. Don't like the weather in Foxboro.

 

[scottybo]

Considering Orlovsky over Warner

I'm considering the same and have been all week. still haven't made my mind up yet.

Just pulled the trigger on that one. Orlovsky for Warner. Boldin is out, it's windy and it's snowing. Should be a sloppy game.

 

[cowboy homer]

Take this for what its worth. I have a friend in Arizona and he has told me that Warner is going to play the whole game unless they are getting crushed or up by a lot in the 4th quarter. He also said Boldin probably wont play. He said there have been rumors that he has been hurt for a few weeks now. He thinks they want to make sure nothing gets worse. He might not play next week either.

Play Warner with confidence. The last I checked the wind isnt that bad and snow isnt a big factor in passing games. It actually helps the offense. Pats D is terrible against the pass and has let up the most point to a QB the last four weeks, in standard scoring system. Breaston will fill in nicely for Boldin and Urban is a great number 3.

People dont let the weather play with your heads. Arizona doesnt want to go into the playoffs limping. Anyone that ever played sports knows that when your out there your going all out and thats what Arizona will do.

Just my 2 cents. By the way I own Warner and am playing him. My other option was Romo.

 

[TheRealDeFo]

I have Warner and Cutler. Right now, I'm leaning towards Cutler.

 

[Muahahaha]

I wrote this in another thread about today's weather:

Well, the long anticipated bad weather for today on the East Coast looks to have materialized. Here in Northern Jersey (about 10 miles west of Giants Stadium) at 7:00am EST, we currently have a mix of freezing rain and snow coming down. Looks like it is most likely going to be hanging with us all day.

There are a number of people saying the weather won't matter. Well, there was similar weather last year on Week 15, particularly at Foxboro, MA. Brady went 14/27 for 140 and threw 0 TDs and 1 Int.

Here is a link to the Gamecenter for that game:

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter?game_id=2940...&week=REG15

And here is a link to a story on ESPN describing the conditions as a combination of sleet, freezing rain and snow. The exact same conditions we are experiencing today:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=271216017

QUOTE

Facing rain, wind and chilly gusts above 20 mph, New England relied on Laurence Maroney's rushing instead of Tom Brady's passing and beat the New York Jets 20-10 Sunday in the Spygate rematch to clinch home-field advantage throughout the AFC playoffs.

QUOTE

"When you have elements like this you want to play great defense and run the ball," Brady said.

I owed last years championship largely to having played the Brady owner in the Week 15 semis. He was a juggernaut until then. He didn't have the guts to bench Brady in bad weather.

Start your QBs and WRs playing in this weather with reservations.

I have Warner in a championship game and am benching him for Orlovsky in a dome.

 

[otb_lifer]

I have Warner and Cutler. Right now, I'm leaning towards Cutler.

.... same dilema, my friend ....currently going with Cutler, but .... be advised .... if the Chargers lose to the Bucs in the early game, the Broncos clinch the division. and in a FRIGID Denver, Shanny might let off the gas pedal with the passing game. in other words ...LET'S GO CHARGERS!!!!!!!!

 

[Underachievers]

I have Warner and Cutler. Right now, I'm leaning towards Cutler.

Same situation here...but I have no problem starting Cutler. Matter of fact...I inserted him in my starting lineup on Tuesday before the weather details even became an issue.

 

[taz]

I just dropped Delhomme for Orlovsky, but haven't gotten the cajones yet to swap him for Warner. May do that later today.

Something about having Orlovsky/Megatron in the same lineup in my title game just doesn't seem right (not to mention Colston/Hartley).

 

[otb_lifer]

I just dropped Delhomme for Orlovsky, but haven't gotten the cajones yet to swap him for Warner. May do that later today.Something about having Orlovsky/Megatron in the same lineup in my title game just doesn't seem right (not to mention Colston/Hartley).

that Orlovsky/Johnson double dip can be huuuuuuuge today. roll with it, no doubt

 

[boilerdave]

I have Warner and Cutler. Right now, I'm leaning towards Cutler.

Same situation here...but I have no problem starting Cutler. Matter of fact...I inserted him in my starting lineup on Tuesday before the weather details even became an issue.

I just made the lineup change of Cutler in for Warner......I'll being kicking myself in the ### until next September if it costs me the Championship.