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Darrent Williams Shooting (1 Viewer)

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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/foot...r.ap/index.html

Real Sports said another Broncos receiver, Brandon Marshall, and his cousin were partying with Williams' group that night and began spraying champagne around, "some of which hit a club patron and his friend, who confronted Williams and his entourage.

Walker said he didn't see the encounter inside the club but saw trouble brewing when he left at closing time. Marshall and his cousin were exchanging heated words with two men, he said. The rappers said it was the same men who had been kicked out of the club earlier that night.

I didn't know BM started the altercation and then later inflamed the situation...

BM :lol: :bag:

 
If you're Marshall, that's gotta be hell to live with. You're just screwing around and it leads to a teammate's death.

 
If you're Marshall, that's gotta be hell to live with. You're just screwing around and it leads to a teammate's death.
Truly it must be tough for Marshall, Walker, and everyone else involved that night. A little spilled champagne should never end in spilled blood.
 
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/foot...r.ap/index.html

Real Sports said another Broncos receiver, Brandon Marshall, and his cousin were partying with Williams' group that night and began spraying champagne around, "some of which hit a club patron and his friend, who confronted Williams and his entourage.

Walker said he didn't see the encounter inside the club but saw trouble brewing when he left at closing time. Marshall and his cousin were exchanging heated words with two men, he said. The rappers said it was the same men who had been kicked out of the club earlier that night.

I didn't know BM started the altercation and then later inflamed the situation...

BM :lmao: :lmao:
Just finished reading that and agree with you. Souring on BM real quickly. :lmao:
 
Just kids having fun. It's amazing to me that people will bring such a thing as a little champagne to the level or murder.

 
The feeling about Marshall around Dove Valley makes a lot more sense now.
And maybe some of that is a natural reaction no matter how Marshall acted or apologized since, but it sure doesn't sound like he's acting much differently than he did before the incident from some of the articles posted here.
 
I would have to assume a gang would be looking for more trouble than Marshall. Marshall was most likely in the wrong place at the wrong time when he exited the club. I would have to assume the gang would have picked a fight with Mother Theresa if she were leaving the club, as well.

 
So now we're going to blame Marshall because someone decided to kill someone over sprayed champagne?
:goodposting: Clearly not his fault, but Sigmund's comment leads me to believe his rope is getting shorter in Denver. Solid production and no more run-ins with the law is the prescription for Marshall this year. His comments upon being forced into practice Friday shows me that he understands this.

WR BRANDON MARSHALL

On being surprised by Coach Shanahan’s order to practice today

“I was scared, but that’s what it takes. Coach has about 30 years of experience. This is my second year so of course I’ve got to sit back and listen and go with the process.”

On what Coach Shanahan said

“Basically he just challenged me to see if I was mentally strong. I mean he knew that I was in pain and it hurts, but he also knows it’s one of those things where you have to get out there, push yourself, and just be mentally tough. I challenged myself. I was kind of hesitant at first, but you see that I have a smile on my face, so I’m kind of happy about that.”



On respecting Coach’s experience and knowledge

“Oh absolutely, you know sometimes you have no choice. If it was up to me I wouldn’t have went, but coach got me out there.”

On scaling how he feels and his current ability

“Good enough to go out there and catch a few balls.”

On Coach his catch over CB Champ Bailey

“That’s just second nature. Champ, you know, he’s probably the best corner out there, but with the great play calling and Jay putting it right there, it wasn’t that tough of a catch.”

On his soreness

“Oh, it’s definitely sore but it’s part of the process. It’s probably going to be sore for the next week or so, but I’m going to keep pushing myself, keep practicing, being aggressive on it and one day I’m going to wake up and the pain’s going to be gone.”

On being injured for the first time

“Absolutely, I told you guys last year when my PCL was injured in preseason, that was the first time I was ever injured or missed any football since I was in Pop Warner. It’s more mentally challenging for me. That’s probably all it was, and it probably took Coach Shanahan and Greek (Steve Antonopulos) to get me out there and push me to be able to be aggressive on it and not be so gun shy.”

On the MRI showing no muscle damage

“They could have shown me and told me anything they wanted, but I know how my leg felt, and like I said this was my first time ever being injured, especially pulling a muscle. It was just one of those things I know how my body felt, it wasn’t feeling good and it wasn’t one hundred percent. Sometimes I’d walk up the steps wrong and I’d feel it, but I guess it’s that scar tissue that’s built up in there that you’ve got to break up and work through that.”

On comparing today to riding a bike

“Well, yeah, but you know I’m still rusty a little bit, but we’ve still got a month before the regular season so I’ve got a couple preseason games to clean it all up.”

On the pressure to come back

“Absolutely I felt pressure. I was getting a little frustrated and the organization as far as coaches and players. We’re a team. We’re a family, so I’m just one part to the puzzle, but I was missing practice so everybody was getting frustrated.”

On the last MRI taken

“It was a couple days ago. I thought I had a minor set back last week, but it was just scar tissue in there and like I said it was just me not being mentally tough. I’m pretty sure there’s going to be a day when I’m feeling a little down and it’s just one of those days I’m going to have to push through.”



On the pain of going in and out of cuts

“It felt great when I first got out there and we were just jogging and running fade routes in the end zone. I’d try to do a route and I felt like, ‘Why the heck do they have me out here?’ but as I went, just listening to coach, it warmed up perfect, and I was actually supposed to be done after the first 20 minutes, I was just supposed to do the warm up, but it warmed up so well I just kept jumping in there. They were like, ‘Did you just go in there?’ and I was like, ‘Yeah’ and they’d say don’t go in there anymore, and then I’d go back in there. Finally, Greek (Steve Antonopulos) had to grab me and say don’t go back in there anymore.”

On how far he pushed himself

“I didn’t open up to 100 percent, but I opened up to where I could compete, and actually get some wins under my belt and get my confidence going.”



On watching WR Domenik Hixon and WR Brandon Stokley and his expectations

“I’m excited to get back I think personally we have the best receiving corps in the league and I think if we get healthy and stay healthy, I think we won’t be stopped. I mean we have Tony Scheffler, Daniel Graham, Nate Jackson at tight end. We’ve got the big beast in the backfield, Mike Bell, and Travis Henry, and even Cecil Sapp. I think we have a lot of weapons, and if we stay healthy I think we’re going to be really good and probably be the best offense in the league.”
 
So now we're going to blame Marshall because someone decided to kill someone over sprayed champagne?
If you spray someone with champagne, you apologize and move on. It sounds like that did not happen and Marshall and his cousin were continuing to argue/antagonize the people they sprayed. It basically sounds like a typical young, rich athlete, afraid of nothing, thinking he can and should argue with anyone who "disrespects him" even if he started it. Of course, maybe I'm wrong and Marshall is a saint and will be a Pro Bowl WR soon. :goodposting:
 
So now we're going to blame Marshall because someone decided to kill someone over sprayed champagne?
If you spray someone with champagne, you apologize and move on. It sounds like that did not happen and Marshall and his cousin were continuing to argue/antagonize the people they sprayed. It basically sounds like a typical young, rich athlete, afraid of nothing, thinking he can and should argue with anyone who "disrespects him" even if he started it. Of course, maybe I'm wrong and Marshall is a saint and will be a Pro Bowl WR soon. :goodposting:
Link?It's equally as likely that he did apologize and it was the gang members who didn't move on, especially in light of the fact that professional athletes are often targeted for abuse in these settings. I'm not saying that's what happened, but that's the difference between what I'm saying and what you're saying--You're saying X happened; I'm saying I don't know what happened.

Yeah, I just confused myself, too.

 
Just stop it...

Gang members shooting someone is 100% their fault. I don't care who sprayed champagne, cursed, or even took a swing. You just don't shoot another human being unless it's the absolute last bit of self defense.

 
Just stop it...Gang members shooting someone is 100% their fault. I don't care who sprayed champagne, cursed, or even took a swing. You just don't shoot another human being unless it's the absolute last bit of self defense.
Exactly.
 
Just stop it...Gang members shooting someone is 100% their fault. I don't care who sprayed champagne, cursed, or even took a swing. You just don't shoot another human being unless it's the absolute last bit of self defense.
Exactly.
:lmao: I have been around some athletes in situations where stuff escalates just based on the fact they are who they are...
 
Just stop it...Gang members shooting someone is 100% their fault. I don't care who sprayed champagne, cursed, or even took a swing. You just don't shoot another human being unless it's the absolute last bit of self defense.
Exactly.
:lmao: I have been around some athletes in situations where stuff escalates just based on the fact they are who they are...
That's why they should not be in these clubs late night with the alcohol making people act stupid...nothing good comes out of being in a club in the wee hours of the morning. They are targets already...and being around a bunch of drunks only magnifies it.
 
Just stop it...Gang members shooting someone is 100% their fault. I don't care who sprayed champagne, cursed, or even took a swing. You just don't shoot another human being unless it's the absolute last bit of self defense.
Exactly.
:lmao: I have been around some athletes in situations where stuff escalates just based on the fact they are who they are...
That's why they should not be in these clubs late night with the alcohol making people act stupid...nothing good comes out of being in a club in the wee hours of the morning. They are targets already...and being around a bunch of drunks only magnifies it.
I agree. Don't club it up for a few years of your life. It seems well worth the trade off in reduced risk.
 
So now we're going to blame Marshall because someone decided to kill someone over sprayed champagne?
If you spray someone with champagne, you apologize and move on. It sounds like that did not happen and Marshall and his cousin were continuing to argue/antagonize the people they sprayed. It basically sounds like a typical young, rich athlete, afraid of nothing, thinking he can and should argue with anyone who "disrespects him" even if he started it. Of course, maybe I'm wrong and Marshall is a saint and will be a Pro Bowl WR soon. :lmao:
Link?It's equally as likely that he did apologize and it was the gang members who didn't move on, especially in light of the fact that professional athletes are often targeted for abuse in these settings. I'm not saying that's what happened, but that's the difference between what I'm saying and what you're saying--You're saying X happened; I'm saying I don't know what happened.

Yeah, I just confused myself, too.
The link in the first line of the first post says that Marshall and his cousin exchanged heated words outside the club, which sounds like a while after the incident occured.No one is saying that it was Marshall's fault. But I am saying that reading between the lines of what has been reported from Dove Valley by Cec and Bloom it sounds as though the rest of the organization is not happy about his involvement and that leads me to believe that he acted recklessly.

 
Don't you spray champagne to celebrate a victory???? I thought Denver got eliminated from the playoffs that day.

 
Of course they weren't happy he was involved. I guarantee you they weren't happy about Javon or obviously D-will being involved either.

Dove Valley was pissed recently because of his "injuries" and not being on the field. If he gets on the field and performs this will not matter.

And you are assuming that there were no apologies. For all you know they did, but the gang members were just being gang members.

 
Don't you spray champagne to celebrate a victory???? I thought Denver got eliminated from the playoffs that day.
Now there is a reason to pissed about that. Why were they celebrating after getting their ### handed to them by the ####### 49'ers.
 
I had a distinct feeling there was more to the story than the quad when I was in dove valley - the climate seemed chilly -more intense than a strategy to get him back on the field against his instincts. Construx might not be that far off

 
ctdub said:
Don't you spray champagne to celebrate a victory???? I thought Denver got eliminated from the playoffs that day.
Wasn't it New Year's Eve?
YES, that is why the champagne was flying.People were getting sprayed with champagne all over the world.No excuse for taking someones life. Thugs are thugs.
 
I had a distinct feeling there was more to the story than the quad when I was in dove valley - the climate seemed chilly -more intense than a strategy to get him back on the field against his instincts. Construx might not be that far off
Yeah and Anthony might have nailed it with needing a fresh start somewhere else. Not sure they would cut him, but I'd bet another NFL team could get him below value in trade right now.
 
I just made a new thread about this, but this is so terrible it belongs here as well

Javon Walker breaks silence, tells HBO about Darrent Williams dying in his arms

By ARNIE STAPLETON, AP Sports Writer

August 11, 2007

ENGLEWOOD, Colo. (AP) -- Denver Broncos wide receiver Javon Walker says he still has the bloodied shirt from the night teammate Darrent Williams died in his arms after a drive-by shooting on New Year's Day.

In his first public comments about Williams' unsolved death, Walker tells HBO's "Real Sports" in a segment to be aired Tuesday night that he keeps the unlaundered shirt as a reminder of his friend and of the fragility of life.

Interviewer Andrea Kremer asks Walker about showing up to Broncos headquarters about 10 hours after Williams' slaying while still wearing his bloodstained clothes.

"I still have those clothes," Walker replied.

Asked why he hadn't washed them, he said, "It's just something that reminds me every day of what could happen and this is what happened to my friend. And this is like ... what's left of him is on my clothes."

Walker told The Associated Press on Saturday that the interview with Kremer was the only time he planned on talking publicly about the Williams' slaying.

Williams was a rising 24-year-old star who had just completed his second season in the NFL when the stretch limousine he was riding in was sprayed with bullets after leaving a nightclub in downtown Denver where there had been an altercation between people in Williams' group and suspected gang members.

No charges have been filed in the case, although police believe several men in custody on federal drug charges have information about Williams' slaying.

"Real Sports" said another Broncos receiver, Brandon Marshall, and his cousin were partying with Williams' group that night and began spraying champagne around, "some of which hit a club patron and his friend, who confronted Williams and his entourage."

Those men flashed gang signs and were escorted out of the club, said members of a rap group from Williams' hometown of Fort Worth, Texas, who were with him that night.

Walker said he didn't see the encounter inside the club but saw trouble brewing when he left at closing time. Marshall and his cousin were exchanging heated words with two men, he said. The rappers said it was the same men who had been kicked out of the club earlier that night.

After Williams and Walker both tried to intervene, Williams told Walker to ride with him in his Hummer limousine, and they drove off into the night, Walker said.

Less than a mile away, Walker said he was turning up the music when Williams suddenly fell into his lap.

Walker said he pushed Williams away and told him to quit messing around -- and that's when he saw blood spurting from Williams' neck and heard the other gunshots.

Walker said he held Williams close and tried to stop the bleeding.

"All I remember at that point in time was he was just looking up at me and I was just like, 'I got you, Dee, I got you, Dee. I got you, Dee,"' Walker recounted. "So, the limo went off the road into the side of the snow. I just remember grabbing him, pulling him out the limo."

Walker said he didn't know if he should run with Williams and worried if "these dudes were going to try to finish us off?"

"You don't know what to think," Walker said, "to have somebody die in your arms and you know you're the last person he hugged."

Walker said he didn't attend Williams' funeral in Fort Worth with the rest of the Broncos "because all it was going to do was just bring back memories of something I didn't want to feel again."

He said it had been hard enough when the Broncos held a private memorial service at team headquarters and he didn't know what to tell Williams' mother, Rosalind Williams, as she hugged him.

Instead, Walker went to Las Vegas, fearful, he said, for his own life in case the shooter wanted to "finish everyone off" who was in the limo.

Walker, who joined the Broncos in a draft day trade from Green Bay last year, said at first he didn't want to keep playing in Denver.

He said he doesn't need any grief counseling, but acknowledged he'll probably never put the tragedy behind him: "Maybe when I see him in heaven, I can ask him, maybe put it behind me then."

Coming off a torn knee ligament that wiped out most of his 2005 season, Walker piled up 1,084 yards and eight touchdowns on 69 catches last year.

He's had a stellar training camp and has steadfastly refused to talk about anything other than football. He told The AP on Saturday that last year was just of glimpse of what he can do on the field.

"Obviously, last year I was coming in and trying to rehab and learn the offense and get familiar with my teammates. This year, is just boom, full-speed, all-go ahead," he said. "I feel good. I'm healthy. Nothing's wrong. And I'm ready to take off from a fast start."

 

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