David 'Big Play' Carr (1 Viewer)

[lod2005]

An amazing 70% completion record via tons of dinks and dunks for this total LOSER. His smoke and mirros sideshow is up. All the Texans fans are finally waking up to the fact that this guy has absolutely no ability to lead a team to a victory. Of all the sucky QB polls from last year, he is at the top again. Loserman has done better, Harrington has done better. Boller is still a bum, but Carr....he is once again showing that he is pure TRASH. The Texans will be shipping this loser out of town after he stole $8 million from them even though I warned them that he was a ZERO. What unlucky team will jump all over this bum and continue their sucky way?

Detroit?

Oakland?

Someone will make a mistake and bring this idiot in.

Look for a big year from Andre Johnson next year. Catches may go down but yards and TD's will surely go up. ANYONE can do better than Carr.

 

[fosio]

Doesn't sound like he has much of a future in Houston. I've wondered if Kubiak might go for Plummer if he's released after the season. A veteran QB to provide leadership, probably pretty familiar with their offense, fairly mobile (since the HOU line still sucks), could be fairly cheap, and could be a 1-3 year stop-gap while they draft and groom a future QB.

I think Shanny really held Plummer back too much this year, had him looking over his shoulder. I think Plummer would be a great "Drew Brees" for Houston. Let them draft a QB to sit and learn for a couple years like SD did with Rivers.

As for Carr's future, I'm not sure what it holds. Oakland needs to find a permanent fix. They can't keep playing musical QB chairs every year. I'm just not sure that Carr has "it" to be a good, consistent NFL QB. Then again it appears that I'm wrong 99.9% of the time so this means he's well on his way to being a Hall of Famer and multi-Super Bowl Champ.

 

[Banger]

Stick a fork in him. He's had a good opportunity and he has shown improvement this year but I don't think his ceiling is higher than an average QB.

 

[lod2005]

Once he is shipped out, everyone will see once and for all that all the sacks where HIS fault for masquerading as an NFL QB.

He is finally getting his due: total blame for pathetic losing season after pathetic losing season.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

On the Joey Harrington career path now. He would be a good pickup for Oakland if they end up taking a franchise QB in the draft this year to caretake while the kid is learning.

 

[Colin Dowling]

I think that Cleveland or Tampa might be good spots. I think he is terrible and the lack of improvement year over year is extremely troubling. That said, I think that he's now been conditioned to take the snap and throw it to the outlet almost immediately. So, add another bad habit to the list that he'll need to break.

 

[fosio]

I think that Cleveland or Tampa might be good spots. I think he is terrible and the lack of improvement year over year is extremely troubling. That said, I think that he's now been conditioned to take the snap and throw it to the outlet almost immediately. So, add another bad habit to the list that he'll need to break.

That is the Harrington path. I read somewhere (can't remember where) that Joey is so quick to throw that he leaves no time to go through his progressions to get other receivers involved and that's part of the reason why Chambers isn't getting more looks. Wish I knew where I saw that. Maybe it was here. Hmm...

 

[lord_helmet]

He could do as a backup in Denver, Kubiak & Shanny lets have a swap!

 

[Berserker]

Looks like the writing is on the wall here already. I can't find the exact quote, but after Sunday's game Kukiak something along the lines of "Carr did his job, but sometimes you need to do more than just your job." Ouch. You don't usually hear that harsh of a statement from the head coach.

That said, I think Carr can still be productive. He needs to get the hell out of Houston though, especially now. Unless VY makes no more progress, Texans fans will also be resentful towards Carr.

 

[lod2005]

I think that Cleveland or Tampa might be good spots. I think he is terrible and the lack of improvement year over year is extremely troubling. That said, I think that he's now been conditioned to take the snap and throw it to the outlet almost immediately. So, add another bad habit to the list that he'll need to break.

He could start the cycle all over again in Tampa. They could blame the o-line or the WR's for the 1st year or 2. Then jump on 'no running game' and the coaching staff. He could then pick up his clownshow and move elsewhere and repeat the facade. Dude my have a 20+ year career as a LOSER.

 

[Banger]

Once he is shipped out, everyone will see once and for all that all the sacks where HIS fault for masquerading as an NFL QB. He is finally getting his due: total blame for pathetic losing season after pathetic losing season.

Captain Happy Feet.

 

[lod2005]

THis was the best quote from after the game:

The Houston Chronicle reports the Titans were expecting exactly what they saw from QB David Carr. He completed 17-of-23 passes for 140 yards but rarely looked downfield. "Carr has a high completion rate," LB Keith Bulluck said. "He throws 6- or 7-yard passes and completes a lot of them, but nothing to really stretch the defense. Nothing that will really hurt you." Carr entered the game leading the NFL with a 69.1 percent completion rate.

He basically calls Carr a sissy.

 

[Z-Dog]

I think that Cleveland or Tampa might be good spots. I think he is terrible and the lack of improvement year over year is extremely troubling. That said, I think that he's now been conditioned to take the snap and throw it to the outlet almost immediately. So, add another bad habit to the list that he'll need to break.

I see him as an excellent fit for the NYJ. Word out of New York is that Ramsey is gone after this season, and the Jets will look for a veteran who can join the training camp competition that will take place between Pennington and Clemens. Carr seems like a great fit. He throws for a high percentage and is fairly accurate, but has never had the kind of protection or coaching he can get with the Jets.

 

[coolnerd]

The issue with Carr is that he is neither the real problem nor the real solution. He is just like the nice hot girl who only wants to be your friend. Because she is not just a total -itch, you allow yourself to keep hanging around her, even though your chances of ever getting anywhere are pretty slim. Carr is a tease.

 

[Two Deep]

I think that Cleveland or Tampa might be good spots. I think he is terrible and the lack of improvement year over year is extremely troubling. That said, I think that he's now been conditioned to take the snap and throw it to the outlet almost immediately. So, add another bad habit to the list that he'll need to break.

I see him as an excellent fit for the NYJ. Word out of New York is that Ramsey is gone after this season, and the Jets will look for a veteran who can join the training camp competition that will take place between Pennington and Clemens. Carr seems like a great fit. He throws for a high percentage and is fairly accurate, but has never had the kind of protection or coaching he can get with the Jets.

no please no.

 

[kabus_sd]

Why wouldn't MN be a good fit? Johnson has shown he is not the answer, Bollinger more than likely isn't a short or long term answer. Jackson might be the qb of the future, but I think the staff there thinks he needs at least a couple years before he is ready. If Carr was on a team that at least gave him a chance to stay upright long enough to look downfield, he might perform very well. The Vikes look to have a legit running game and Childress just wants someone to manage his offense. If Johnson could throw more than 20 yds downfield, to keep defenses honest, they could be a force. Carr had the skills, he just needs to be on a team that has some semblence of an offensive line.

 

[lod2005]

This guy is the biggest POS QB in the NFL, bar NONE!!!!!!

 

[EBF]

They need to put this dog out of his misery. He's like a combination of Kerry Collins and Drew Bledsoe with less talent. How dumb must Houston feel right about now? If they had taken Young or Leinart they might actually have a chance to compete in future seasons. Now they're the Detroit Lions. Yuck.

Time to make a play for Leftwich/Schaub/Boller/anyone with a pulse.

 

[flapgreen]

 

[greenroom]

This guy is the biggest POS QB in the NFL, bar NONE!!!!!!

Wow a lot of information here? Care to back itup with anything of value. You do not like the guy we get it, but he is a average QB. He is better than A Brooks or anything the Raiders have. And to be honest I would take him over the QB situation in Minny.It did not help that he had Capers as his coach when he 1st came in,

 

[lod2005]

This guy is the biggest POS QB in the NFL, bar NONE!!!!!!

Wow a lot of information here? Care to back itup with anything of value. You do not like the guy we get it, but he is a average QB. He is better than A Brooks or anything the Raiders have. And to be honest I would take him over the QB situation in Minny.It did not help that he had Capers as his coach when he 1st came in,

Sure: Starting QB for 5 years now. Career record of 21-55. Never had a winning season. More INT's than TD's. Consistantly leads the league in sacks. Statement by Keith Bullock LB for TENN: "He throws 6- or 7-yard passes and completes a lot of them, but nothing to really stretch the defense. Nothing that will really hurt you." Can't throw the ball down field. Can't read a defense. Need anymore info? And don't say it ther is some reason other than Carr. Everytime an excuse comes up, a change is made and the results are the same. The fact is the common denominator over the last 5 years is Carr.

Finally UNIVERSALLY HATED by 99.9% of Texans fans. Took most of them until the last few weeks. The loser has set the team back another 5 years by accepting $8 million that he knew he didn't deserve.

 

[Capella]

I warned them that he was a ZERO.

 

[ChampBailey24]

I warned them that he was a ZERO.

Laugh all you want but lod is still 1st in his league.

 

[Capella]

I warned them that he was a ZERO.

Laugh all you want but lod is still 1st in his league.

who cares?

 

[greenroom]

This guy is the biggest POS QB in the NFL, bar NONE!!!!!!

Wow a lot of information here? Care to back itup with anything of value. You do not like the guy we get it, but he is a average QB. He is better than A Brooks or anything the Raiders have. And to be honest I would take him over the QB situation in Minny.It did not help that he had Capers as his coach when he 1st came in,

Sure: Starting QB for 5 years now. Career record of 21-55. Never had a winning season. More INT's than TD's. Consistantly leads the league in sacks. Statement by Keith Bullock LB for TENN: "He throws 6- or 7-yard passes and completes a lot of them, but nothing to really stretch the defense. Nothing that will really hurt you." Can't throw the ball down field. Can't read a defense. Need anymore info? And don't say it ther is some reason other than Carr. Everytime an excuse comes up, a change is made and the results are the same. The fact is the common denominator over the last 5 years is Carr.

Finally UNIVERSALLY HATED by 99.9% of Texans fans. Took most of them until the last few weeks. The loser has set the team back another 5 years by accepting $8 million that he knew he didn't deserve.

NO the Texans fans hate him because he is not Vince Young. Lets be real here. Oh and if you want to hate someone hate the Management of the Texans for picking up the 8 million option on Carr. Not the other way. Like you would turn down a contract of 8 million even if it was for 1 year??? As far as the playcalling it is due to the offensive line. The only time that Carr has is for those short little passes.

 

[lod2005]

As far as the playcalling it is due to the offensive line. The only time that Carr has is for those short little passes.

Wrong. He gives people that illusion do to his 100% TOTAL SUCKINESS. There are worse o-lines in the league. Put him behind the raiders and he wouldn't complete his patented dumpoff.

 

[Bad_Mo]

Don't you mean, David "1971 Ford Pinto" Carr?

Dude sucks as bad as any Pinto, Pacer or Gremlin I've ever seen...

 

[BigRed]

Wrong. He gives people that illusion do to his 100% TOTAL SUCKINESS. There are worse o-lines in the league. Put him behind the raiders and he wouldn't complete his patented dumpoff.

I really wish you'd stop beating around the bush and tell us what you think of Carr. I admit I haven't HOU play a ton the last couple years, but for the sake of argument I'll agree OAK has the worst OL. If HOU isn't 2d, they're up there....as they have been EVERY year in Carr's entire career. Wow what a surprise that he doesn't go deep.....freakin duh, HE DOESN'T HAVE TIME TO. If the HOU organization had a freaking clue, the FIRST thing they would have done after drafting him was concentrate heavily on building up that OL. PS: Guess how many 1st round picks they've used on OL?Zero.Guess how many 2d rounders?Zero.I'm sure he's made his share of mistakes, but he's well worth taking a shot on for a moderate price elsewhere and I wouldn't be at all surprised if he went somewhere with at least a decent OL and did well.

 

[coolnerd]

Wrong. He gives people that illusion do to his 100% TOTAL SUCKINESS. There are worse o-lines in the league. Put him behind the raiders and he wouldn't complete his patented dumpoff.

I really wish you'd stop beating around the bush and tell us what you think of Carr. I admit I haven't HOU play a ton the last couple years, but for the sake of argument I'll agree OAK has the worst OL. If HOU isn't 2d, they're up there....as they have been EVERY year in Carr's entire career. Wow what a surprise that he doesn't go deep.....freakin duh, HE DOESN'T HAVE TIME TO. If the HOU organization had a freaking clue, the FIRST thing they would have done after drafting him was concentrate heavily on building up that OL. PS: Guess how many 1st round picks they've used on OL?Zero.Guess how many 2d rounders?Zero.I'm sure he's made his share of mistakes, but he's well worth taking a shot on for a moderate price elsewhere and I wouldn't be at all surprised if he went somewhere with at least a decent OL and did well.

You can't make this claim w/o having seen Carr much. I have been in the Carr is mediocore and inconsistent crowd until he has thought that it is a good idea to throw 1 TD pass in the last 7 weeks. His general field awareness is the poorest of any QB in the NFL. When Kubiak reviewed the film from last year he came to the conclusion that at least 20 sacks were on the QB. In other words, 20 sacks were avoidable. Yes, Carr has played behind a below average OL, but he has does next to nothing to help his OL out.

 

[lod2005]

You can't make this claim w/o having seen Carr much. I have been in the Carr is mediocore and inconsistent crowd until he has thought that it is a good idea to throw 1 TD pass in the last 7 weeks. His general field awareness is the poorest of any QB in the NFL. When Kubiak reviewed the film from last year he came to the conclusion that at least 20 sacks were on the QB. In other words, 20 sacks were avoidable. Yes, Carr has played behind a below average OL, but he has does next to nothing to help his OL out.

This is 100% accurate. I watch this bozo every week and it's worse every week. He really has no business as a starting NFL QB.

 

[ChampBailey24]

I warned them that he was a ZERO.

Laugh all you want but lod is still 1st in his league.

who cares?

I don't think you get it. Lod was my 2nd round pick in the SP ##### Bag draft.

 

[veto87]

Maybe the Texans could do a better job of drafting say REGGIE BUSH or Vince YOung instead of Williams

or in 2004 your CB Dunta Robinson coulda had, Roethlisburger, Lee Evans etc

or

not signing a RB with chronic knee problems- DD

or

get an O-line

 

[Capella]

I warned them that he was a ZERO.

Laugh all you want but lod is still 1st in his league.

who cares?

I don't think you get it. Lod was my 2nd round pick in the SP ##### Bag draft.

oh yea...treeeeeeeeeeeemendous steal.

 

[Monse]

LOD, can you complete one post without mentioning how awful Carr and/or Garrard is..? I saw more of your posts on another site (draft site) and once again, you failed to offer any insight into any of your posts. In a topic referring to the Jaguars possibly needing a new QB, you respond with this... "Not nearly as much as the Texans do. That guy is awful. Can't even mention his name without puking. WORST starting QB in the league over the last 5 years and he still has a job."

You are a joke.

 

[PatsWillWin]

LOD, can you complete one post without mentioning how awful Carr and/or Garrard is..? I saw more of your posts on another site (draft site) and once again, you failed to offer any insight into any of your posts. In a topic referring to the Jaguars possibly needing a new QB, you respond with this... "Not nearly as much as the Texans do. That guy is awful. Can't even mention his name without puking. WORST starting QB in the league over the last 5 years and he still has a job."

You are a joke.

From the thread about Matt Millen (aka nothing to do with David Carr):

What if he was paired up with David Carr's 5 year, 21-55 record? Could be interesting.

 

[Buckna]

 

[lod2005]

LOD, can you complete one post without mentioning how awful Carr and/or Garrard is..? I saw more of your posts on another site (draft site) and once again, you failed to offer any insight into any of your posts. In a topic referring to the Jaguars possibly needing a new QB, you respond with this... "Not nearly as much as the Texans do. That guy is awful. Can't even mention his name without puking. WORST starting QB in the league over the last 5 years and he still has a job."

You are a joke.

The joke is in your mouth.Exactly where in my post was I incorrect, ya LOSER.

IBTL.

 

[saintfool]

what's the texans cap hit for trading him?

i expected to kubiak - the offensive guru - to help him along this season. maybe not early on in the season but certainly he should have mastered the system by now. he should be having his better games this time of year. kubiak might be to blame, too, but carr it looks like carr isn't the answer there. a change of scenery might do everyone a bit of good.

 

[PatsWillWin]

what's the texans cap hit for trading him?i expected to kubiak - the offensive guru - to help him along this season. maybe not early on in the season but certainly he should have mastered the system by now. he should be having his better games this time of year. kubiak might be to blame, too, but carr it looks like carr isn't the answer there. a change of scenery might do everyone a bit of good.

I think blaminb Kubiak is valid, but maybe for a different reason. Coming in to coach his team, Carr had to be THE single biggest issue that he had to settle. Remember Kubiak chose to exercise his $8 million option this season; theoretically after doing a serious evaluation of Carr's performance. Obviously, he was wrong.Had he assessed Carr differently and let him go, they probably would've gone with Young with the first pick, and we wouldn't have this ridiculously hate-filled Carr-bashing thread.Be angry with Carr, even to the insanely bitter extend that LOD seems to be - but don't ignore Kubiak's role in deciding to bring him back.

 

[lod2005]

what's the texans cap hit for trading him?i expected to kubiak - the offensive guru - to help him along this season. maybe not early on in the season but certainly he should have mastered the system by now. he should be having his better games this time of year. kubiak might be to blame, too, but carr it looks like carr isn't the answer there. a change of scenery might do everyone a bit of good.

His value is zero. When you are the worst starting QB in the league and 21-55 over your career, you have no worth. Any team taking this guy is saing, 'we would like to be worse off than we are now'. Kubiak has been given the task of trying to turn a lump of coal into a diamond. It would take that long to turn Carr into an NFL QB.

 

[lod2005]

Be angry with Carr, even to the insanely bitter extend that LOD seems to be - but don't ignore Kubiak's role in deciding to bring him back.

You are damn right I am bitter. I have Andre Johnson and Reggie Williams as WR's in a dynasty league and they are stuck with trash for QB's. I can see the ineptitude at the QB position....a combined 7 INT's this week. How can't these teams see it? I actually long to see Byron Leftwich as the Jax. QB.

 

[PatsWillWin]

His value is zero. When you are the worst starting QB in the league and 21-55 over your career, you have no worth. Any team taking this guy is saing, 'we would like to be worse off than we are now'.

Hate to interrupt your hate-fest, but Carr > Aaron Brooks right now.

Kubiak has been given the task of trying to turn a lump of coal into a diamond. It would take that long to turn Carr into an NFL QB.

As I posted above, Kubiak was not "given" that task - he decided it the best move. How you can completely exonerrate Kubiak defies logic.

 

[PatsWillWin]

Be angry with Carr, even to the insanely bitter extend that LOD seems to be - but don't ignore Kubiak's role in deciding to bring him back.

You are damn right I am bitter. I have Andre Johnson and Reggie Williams as WR's in a dynasty league and they are stuck with trash for QB's. I can see the ineptitude at the QB position....a combined 7 INT's this week. How can't these teams see it? I actually long to see Byron Leftwich as the Jax. QB.

Thank you for sharing that. That makes more sense now. This all belongs in the "Venting" thread. I will no cease any attempt to have a legit football discussion on the matter.

 

[lod2005]

His value is zero. When you are the worst starting QB in the league and 21-55 over your career, you have no worth. Any team taking this guy is saing, 'we would like to be worse off than we are now'.

Hate to interrupt your hate-fest, but Carr > Aaron Brooks right now.

Kubiak has been given the task of trying to turn a lump of coal into a diamond. It would take that long to turn Carr into an NFL QB.

As I posted above, Kubiak was not "given" that task - he decided it the best move. How you can completely exonerrate Kubiak defies logic.

Kubiak made a horrible mistake...if that is true. I would say it isn't based on an article where McNair is still singing the praises of Carr. No doubt he thought Kubiak could turn the bum into something. Onto Brooks....that line is far worse than the Texans. Put Carr behind that line and we would never see him again...which is a good thing. But yeah, Brooks sucks. He also has Alvis Whittted at starting WR. Once again, imagine Carr with that. Now Carr looks worse.

 

[lod2005]

As I posted above, Kubiak was not "given" that task - he decided it the best move. How you can completely exonerrate Kubiak defies logic.

Unless he personally told you he thought he could turn carr into something, then you are making an assumption. Now I will make the correct assumption: Kubiak gets the opportunity for a head coaching gig, The owner wants to keep Carr, so Kubiak goes along with it, hoping he can turn carr into something. If he says, no, 'send carr packing and we rebuild' in the interview, McNair looks elsewhere for an head coach and Kubiak blows his chance. By saying ok, he suffers through a horrid year, showing Mcnair that carr is garbage and they rebuild AND he is the head coach.More plausible than Kubiak saying 'I can turn Carr into an NFL QB'. He knew he couldn't just as I knew he couldn't.

 

[PatsWillWin]

As I posted above, Kubiak was not "given" that task - he decided it the best move. How you can completely exonerrate Kubiak defies logic.

Unless he personally told you he thought he could turn carr into something, then you are making an assumption. Now I will make the correct assumption: Kubiak gets the opportunity for a head coaching gig, The owner wants to keep Carr, so Kubiak goes along with it, hoping he can turn carr into something. If he says, no, 'send carr packing and we rebuild' in the interview, McNair looks elsewhere for an head coach and Kubiak blows his chance. By saying ok, he suffers through a horrid year, showing Mcnair that carr is garbage and they rebuild AND he is the head coach.More plausible than Kubiak saying 'I can turn Carr into an NFL QB'. He knew he couldn't just as I knew he couldn't.

 

[lod2005]

I think blaminb Kubiak is valid, but maybe for a different reason. Coming in to coach his team, Carr had to be THE single biggest issue that he had to settle. Remember Kubiak chose to exercise his $8 million option this season; theoretically after doing a serious evaluation of Carr's performance. Obviously, he was wrong.

Had he assessed Carr differently and let him go, they probably would've gone with Young with the first pick, and we wouldn't have this ridiculously hate-filled Carr-bashing thread.

Be angry with Carr, even to the insanely bitter extend that LOD seems to be - but don't ignore Kubiak's role in deciding to bring him back.

Yeah right. You must be David Carr and try to deflect blame elsewhere AGAIN.

 

[PatsWillWin]

I think blaminb Kubiak is valid, but maybe for a different reason. Coming in to coach his team, Carr had to be THE single biggest issue that he had to settle. Remember Kubiak chose to exercise his $8 million option this season; theoretically after doing a serious evaluation of Carr's performance. Obviously, he was wrong.

Had he assessed Carr differently and let him go, they probably would've gone with Young with the first pick, and we wouldn't have this ridiculously hate-filled Carr-bashing thread.

Be angry with Carr, even to the insanely bitter extend that LOD seems to be - but don't ignore Kubiak's role in deciding to bring him back.

Yeah right. You must be David Carr and try to deflect blame elsewhere AGAIN.

Soooo you blame Carr for his option being picked up?

 

[saintfool]

what's the texans cap hit for trading him?i expected to kubiak - the offensive guru - to help him along this season. maybe not early on in the season but certainly he should have mastered the system by now. he should be having his better games this time of year. kubiak might be to blame, too, but carr it looks like carr isn't the answer there. a change of scenery might do everyone a bit of good.

His value is zero. When you are the worst starting QB in the league and 21-55 over your career, you have no worth. Any team taking this guy is saing, 'we would like to be worse off than we are now'. Kubiak has been given the task of trying to turn a lump of coal into a diamond. It would take that long to turn Carr into an NFL QB.

i'm sorry but the league gave up Joey Harrington for dead. He has given himself a bit of a facelift with the dolphins winning. carr can do the same with another team. they might want to have a backup or simply someone that can challenge the starter. to say he's got no value is ridiculous. i have to think that if his cap hit is too high for cutting, then you might have to hop for a breathrough year next season.

 

[Colin Dowling]

Carr needs a change of scenery, and Houston needs a new QB. I think that the Bucs are going to have more than a little trouble re-signing Simms considering the market for QBs out there.