David Boston test results. (1 Viewer)

[captbly]

He is clean of 10 drugs so now they want to test for more? Why doesnt the police just stop already.

http://sports.tbo.com/sports/MGB0PI5UV5F.html

PINELLAS PARK - The results of David Boston's urine test could be back from the laboratory as early as Thursday, Pinellas Park police said.

Details regarding the Bucs wide receiver's traffic stop Thursday, when he was arrested and charged with driving under the influence, were revealed in a police report Monday.

The Pinellas County Forensic Laboratory has been asked to test Boston's urine for a variety of controlled substances, including the so-called "date rape" drug GHB, as well PCP, Ketamine and Dextromethorphan.

After Boston blew a triple zero on a breath test for alcohol, he gave a sample of his urine, the report said. A test for evidence of 10 drugs showed no evidence of any of them, the report said.

The forensic laboratory is expected to test Boston's urine for a wider range of drugs, Capt. Sanfield Forseth said. "You're not going to find anything in my urine," Boston told police Friday, according to the report.

Meanwhile, Bucs coach Jon Gruden said he did not discipline Boston by making him sit out one quarter of Saturday's exhibition game against Miami. Boston, who had started the first two exhibitions, did not appear until the second quarter. Ike Hilliard started in place of Boston, but Gruden said Boston was not being punished.

"There is no evidence to support that [arrest]. Whatever happens will obviously be determined," Gruden said. "There is no evidence we have to support those accusations. It [the arrest] had nothing to do with [boston not starting]. We wanted to see Hilliard on the first play of the game because he's a good player."

According to the police report, Boston said he ended up in Pinellas Park because he was coming from an unfamiliar area where he had met a Bucs trainer. He came to the police's attention after he was found unresponsive at the wheel of a sport utility vehicle in a travel lane.

"This happened to me last year," Boston reportedly told police. "I don't know what it was then. I just need to leave and get back to Tampa."

When he had trouble keeping his balance during a field sobriety test, Boston said his leg was not "coordinatively right," the report said. Boston also mentioned his left knee was bad and that he had surgeries on both knees, the report says.

 

[HULLOBUDMAN]

I believe this article was already posted in the 480 page thread on Boston. Thanks for posting it and please update that thread if you see the reults posted.

Thanks again.

 

[Traders2001]

They were after Vick , now after Boston ( Surprise they are both black ) ...................

They would arrest Manning Drunk and stone and would let him go for sure with a tap in the back and congratulate him for the SuperBowl win .

There is a big problem somewhere.

 

[Holland Freeze]

He is clean of 10 drugs so now they want to test for more? Why doesnt the police just stop already.

I think the reason is that they do not think it is the common street drugs that are what the tests cover. With Boston being a fitness fanatic they suspect it is something more of a designer or hybrid drug that your typical junkie isn't interested in (and probably can't afford).

 

[Holland Freeze]

They were after Vick , now after Boston ( Surprise they are both black ) ...................They would arrest Manning Drunk and stone and would let him go for sure with a tap in the back and congratulate him for the SuperBowl win .There is a big problem somewhere.

There may have been overreaction to both Vick and Boston but it is hardly a race issue - guess suspicion of crimes should be overlooked if the suspect is a minority. Sounds like your big problem are your own biases

 

[VICK-tory]

I think he was just tired, for real I do

 

[Christo]

They were after Vick , now after Boston ( Surprise they are both black ) ...................They would arrest Manning Drunk and stone and would let him go for sure with a tap in the back and congratulate him for the SuperBowl win .There is a big problem somewhere.

You need some more tinfoil for your hat.

 

[nxmehta]

They were after Vick , now after Boston ( Surprise they are both black ) ...................They would arrest Manning Drunk and stone and would let him go for sure with a tap in the back and congratulate him for the SuperBowl win .There is a big problem somewhere.

There may have been overreaction to both Vick and Boston but it is hardly a race issue - guess suspicion of crimes should be overlooked if the suspect is a minority. Sounds like your big problem are your own biases

Linsday Lohan and the COCAINE IN HER PANTS amounts to nothing yet the police are ALL OVER David Boston's pee.The bias may not *necessarily* be racial, but there's something fishy going on here.

 

[The_U]

Guys at the risk of being the voice of reason Michale Vick committed by most accounts, a heinous crime, one which would have landed the average "white guy" in the slammer faster than Vick lasted.

David Boston may have done absolutely nothing wrong - all signs point to him simply falling asleep at this point however inexplicable, but the fact remains he fell asleep behind the wheel of a car not only with the keys in the ignition, but with the engine running.

Sorry to break the news to all conspiracy theorists: one act is stone cold criminal and the other is damn fishy however innocent. Cops have a job to do, and while I've been given the business by an overzealous police officer before myself, neither of these guys were treated with a racial bias in their respective run-ins with the law.

 

[3C's]

They were after Vick , now after Boston ( Surprise they are both black ) ...................

They would arrest Manning Drunk and stone and would let him go for sure with a tap in the back and congratulate him for the SuperBowl win .

There is a big problem somewhere.

Yes there is! And it's right between your ears.

 

[Wadsworth]

I'm sure Boston is in free agency in many leagues. The question is what is his fantasy value, if any, at this point?

 

[switz]

He is clean of 10 drugs so now they want to test for more? Why doesnt the police just stop already.

I think the reason is that they do not think it is the common street drugs that are what the tests cover. With Boston being a fitness fanatic they suspect it is something more of a designer or hybrid drug that your typical junkie isn't interested in (and probably can't afford).

Additionally, this case so far makes the police look pretty stupid, so they are going the extra leg to see if they can find ANYTHING to nail Boston with.

 

[CrossEyed]

I'm sure Boston is in free agency in many leagues. The question is what is his fantasy value, if any, at this point?

Last quote I saw from Gruden said the WR2 spot would be by committee between Boston, Stovall and Hilliard.

 

[a_rackowski]

Anyone have any recent photos of Boston? Is he still the BEAST that he was a few years back?

 

[Franchise Playa]

They were after Vick , now after Boston ( Surprise they are both black ) ...................They would arrest Manning Drunk and stone and would let him go for sure with a tap in the back and congratulate him for the SuperBowl win .There is a big problem somewhere.

There may have been overreaction to both Vick and Boston but it is hardly a race issue - guess suspicion of crimes should be overlooked if the suspect is a minority. Sounds like your big problem are your own biases

Linsday Lohan and the COCAINE IN HER PANTS amounts to nothing yet the police are ALL OVER David Boston's pee.The bias may not *necessarily* be racial, but there's something fishy going on here.

I absolutely agree...I'm not saying this incident is race related but A LOT of issues are race related. Some simply dismiss it as if race is not an issue but it is. Especially with police incidents...your example being a good one.

 

[mad sweeney]

They were after Vick , now after Boston ( Surprise they are both black ) ...................They would arrest Manning Drunk and stone and would let him go for sure with a tap in the back and congratulate him for the SuperBowl win .There is a big problem somewhere.

Thank goodness they threw the book at Leonard Little and Jayson Williams, proves the fact that Whitey's out to getcha!

 

[mad sweeney]

They were after Vick , now after Boston ( Surprise they are both black ) ...................They would arrest Manning Drunk and stone and would let him go for sure with a tap in the back and congratulate him for the SuperBowl win .There is a big problem somewhere.

There may have been overreaction to both Vick and Boston but it is hardly a race issue - guess suspicion of crimes should be overlooked if the suspect is a minority. Sounds like your big problem are your own biases

Linsday Lohan and the COCAINE IN HER PANTS amounts to nothing yet the police are ALL OVER David Boston's pee.The bias may not *necessarily* be racial, but there's something fishy going on here.

I forget, what did Tank Johmson's BAC come out to? And what was he charged with? And that's in Arizona folks, the South of the West.

 

[Franchise Playa]

They were after Vick , now after Boston ( Surprise they are both black ) ...................They would arrest Manning Drunk and stone and would let him go for sure with a tap in the back and congratulate him for the SuperBowl win .There is a big problem somewhere.

There may have been overreaction to both Vick and Boston but it is hardly a race issue - guess suspicion of crimes should be overlooked if the suspect is a minority. Sounds like your big problem are your own biases

Linsday Lohan and the COCAINE IN HER PANTS amounts to nothing yet the police are ALL OVER David Boston's pee.The bias may not *necessarily* be racial, but there's something fishy going on here.

I forget, what did Tank Johmson's BAC come out to? And what was he charged with? And that's in Arizona folks, the South of the West.

He was caught for doing 40 in a 25 and released without charge which is common in AZ. I live here and people don't get charged for speeding unless in certain areas or if they are super intoxicated. So you don't believe race plays any part in how some celebs and athletes are treated? Im interested in your response....

 

[mad sweeney]

They were after Vick , now after Boston ( Surprise they are both black ) ...................They would arrest Manning Drunk and stone and would let him go for sure with a tap in the back and congratulate him for the SuperBowl win .There is a big problem somewhere.

There may have been overreaction to both Vick and Boston but it is hardly a race issue - guess suspicion of crimes should be overlooked if the suspect is a minority. Sounds like your big problem are your own biases

Linsday Lohan and the COCAINE IN HER PANTS amounts to nothing yet the police are ALL OVER David Boston's pee.The bias may not *necessarily* be racial, but there's something fishy going on here.

I forget, what did Tank Johmson's BAC come out to? And what was he charged with? And that's in Arizona folks, the South of the West.

He was caught for doing 40 in a 25 and released without charge which is common in AZ. I live here and people don't get charged for speeding unless in certain areas or if they are super intoxicated. So you don't believe race plays any part in how some celebs and athletes are treated? Im interested in your response....

His BAC was below the legal limit for charging him with a DUI. Same as with Lohan's coke, not enough to charge. Just offering a parallel situation in which a black athlete with significant criminal history was not charged for the same reason that a white celebrity with significant alcohol/drug history was not charged.

 

[Franchise Playa]

They were after Vick , now after Boston ( Surprise they are both black ) ...................They would arrest Manning Drunk and stone and would let him go for sure with a tap in the back and congratulate him for the SuperBowl win .There is a big problem somewhere.

There may have been overreaction to both Vick and Boston but it is hardly a race issue - guess suspicion of crimes should be overlooked if the suspect is a minority. Sounds like your big problem are your own biases

Linsday Lohan and the COCAINE IN HER PANTS amounts to nothing yet the police are ALL OVER David Boston's pee.The bias may not *necessarily* be racial, but there's something fishy going on here.

I forget, what did Tank Johmson's BAC come out to? And what was he charged with? And that's in Arizona folks, the South of the West.

He was caught for doing 40 in a 25 and released without charge which is common in AZ. I live here and people don't get charged for speeding unless in certain areas or if they are super intoxicated. So you don't believe race plays any part in how some celebs and athletes are treated? Im interested in your response....

His BAC was below the legal limit for charging him with a DUI. Same as with Lohan's coke, not enough to charge. Just offering a parallel situation in which a black athlete with significant criminal history was not charged for the same reason that a white celebrity with significant alcohol/drug history was not charged.

The point I think he was trying to make between Boston and Lohan is how vigorously did the police go after Lohan compared to Boston. Where was the battery of urine tests with Lohan? It's like 2 different legal systems sometimes.

 

[Daywalker]

They were after Vick , now after Boston ( Surprise they are both black ) ...................

They would arrest Manning Drunk and stone and would let him go for sure with a tap in the back and congratulate him for the SuperBowl win .

There is a big problem somewhere.

There may have been overreaction to both Vick and Boston but it is hardly a race issue - guess suspicion of crimes should be overlooked if the suspect is a minority. Sounds like your big problem are your own biases

Linsday Lohan and the COCAINE IN HER PANTS amounts to nothing yet the police are ALL OVER David Boston's pee.

The bias may not *necessarily* be racial, but there's something fishy going on here.

I forget, what did Tank Johmson's BAC come out to? And what was he charged with? And that's in Arizona folks, the South of the West.

He was caught for doing 40 in a 25 and released without charge which is common in AZ. I live here and people don't get charged for speeding unless in certain areas or if they are super intoxicated. So you don't believe race plays any part in how some celebs and athletes are treated? Im interested in your response....

His BAC was below the legal limit for charging him with a DUI. Same as with Lohan's coke, not enough to charge. Just offering a parallel situation in which a black athlete with significant criminal history was not charged for the same reason that a white celebrity with significant alcohol/drug history was not charged.

The point I think he was trying to make between Boston and Lohan is how vigorously did the police go after Lohan compared to Boston. Where was the battery of urine tests with Lohan? It's like 2 different legal systems sometimes.

I'll go one step further. It's like 50 different legal systems.

 

[mad sweeney]

They were after Vick , now after Boston ( Surprise they are both black ) ...................They would arrest Manning Drunk and stone and would let him go for sure with a tap in the back and congratulate him for the SuperBowl win .There is a big problem somewhere.

There may have been overreaction to both Vick and Boston but it is hardly a race issue - guess suspicion of crimes should be overlooked if the suspect is a minority. Sounds like your big problem are your own biases

Linsday Lohan and the COCAINE IN HER PANTS amounts to nothing yet the police are ALL OVER David Boston's pee.The bias may not *necessarily* be racial, but there's something fishy going on here.

I forget, what did Tank Johmson's BAC come out to? And what was he charged with? And that's in Arizona folks, the South of the West.

He was caught for doing 40 in a 25 and released without charge which is common in AZ. I live here and people don't get charged for speeding unless in certain areas or if they are super intoxicated. So you don't believe race plays any part in how some celebs and athletes are treated? Im interested in your response....

His BAC was below the legal limit for charging him with a DUI. Same as with Lohan's coke, not enough to charge. Just offering a parallel situation in which a black athlete with significant criminal history was not charged for the same reason that a white celebrity with significant alcohol/drug history was not charged.

The point I think he was trying to make between Boston and Lohan is how vigorously did the police go after Lohan compared to Boston. Where was the battery of urine tests with Lohan? It's like 2 different legal systems sometimes.

Why would they test her for drugs when they found them on her? She was arrested right then and there. Also she wasn't the driver so there was no DUI implications, no need to test her.

 

[TwinTurbo]

In that video of the arrest, it looked like Boston was just irritated and didn't want to cooperate. He was clearly not impaired. The whole thing seemed like a joke. I kept waiting for Aston Kutcher to come out and tell Boston he was Punk'd.

Supposedly they released him a couple hours later. If he really was impaired, they would not have done that.

 

[Franchise Playa]

They were after Vick , now after Boston ( Surprise they are both black ) ...................They would arrest Manning Drunk and stone and would let him go for sure with a tap in the back and congratulate him for the SuperBowl win .There is a big problem somewhere.

There may have been overreaction to both Vick and Boston but it is hardly a race issue - guess suspicion of crimes should be overlooked if the suspect is a minority. Sounds like your big problem are your own biases

Linsday Lohan and the COCAINE IN HER PANTS amounts to nothing yet the police are ALL OVER David Boston's pee.The bias may not *necessarily* be racial, but there's something fishy going on here.

I forget, what did Tank Johmson's BAC come out to? And what was he charged with? And that's in Arizona folks, the South of the West.

He was caught for doing 40 in a 25 and released without charge which is common in AZ. I live here and people don't get charged for speeding unless in certain areas or if they are super intoxicated. So you don't believe race plays any part in how some celebs and athletes are treated? Im interested in your response....

His BAC was below the legal limit for charging him with a DUI. Same as with Lohan's coke, not enough to charge. Just offering a parallel situation in which a black athlete with significant criminal history was not charged for the same reason that a white celebrity with significant alcohol/drug history was not charged.

The point I think he was trying to make between Boston and Lohan is how vigorously did the police go after Lohan compared to Boston. Where was the battery of urine tests with Lohan? It's like 2 different legal systems sometimes.

Why would they test her for drugs when they found them on her? She was arrested right then and there. Also she wasn't the driver so there was no DUI implications, no need to test her.

The same reason they drug test other people I have known when they were just passengers when a car was pulled....because they can. It doesn't matter if your the driver or not you have drugs on you they should test you...they don't just "assume" because you are not driving. And no one is after her in the same manner the would a normal person in the same circumstance.

 

[mad sweeney]

They were after Vick , now after Boston ( Surprise they are both black ) ...................They would arrest Manning Drunk and stone and would let him go for sure with a tap in the back and congratulate him for the SuperBowl win .There is a big problem somewhere.

There may have been overreaction to both Vick and Boston but it is hardly a race issue - guess suspicion of crimes should be overlooked if the suspect is a minority. Sounds like your big problem are your own biases

Linsday Lohan and the COCAINE IN HER PANTS amounts to nothing yet the police are ALL OVER David Boston's pee.The bias may not *necessarily* be racial, but there's something fishy going on here.

I forget, what did Tank Johmson's BAC come out to? And what was he charged with? And that's in Arizona folks, the South of the West.

He was caught for doing 40 in a 25 and released without charge which is common in AZ. I live here and people don't get charged for speeding unless in certain areas or if they are super intoxicated. So you don't believe race plays any part in how some celebs and athletes are treated? Im interested in your response....

His BAC was below the legal limit for charging him with a DUI. Same as with Lohan's coke, not enough to charge. Just offering a parallel situation in which a black athlete with significant criminal history was not charged for the same reason that a white celebrity with significant alcohol/drug history was not charged.

The point I think he was trying to make between Boston and Lohan is how vigorously did the police go after Lohan compared to Boston. Where was the battery of urine tests with Lohan? It's like 2 different legal systems sometimes.

Why would they test her for drugs when they found them on her? She was arrested right then and there. Also she wasn't the driver so there was no DUI implications, no need to test her.

The same reason they drug test other people I have known when they were just passengers when a car was pulled....because they can. It doesn't matter if your the driver or not you have drugs on you they should test you...they don't just "assume" because you are not driving. And no one is after her in the same manner the would a normal person in the same circumstance.

They FOUND drugs ON her, no need to test. A famous athlete is not a normal person either, which is what we're talking about anyways.

 

[Franchise Playa]

They were after Vick , now after Boston ( Surprise they are both black ) ...................They would arrest Manning Drunk and stone and would let him go for sure with a tap in the back and congratulate him for the SuperBowl win .There is a big problem somewhere.

There may have been overreaction to both Vick and Boston but it is hardly a race issue - guess suspicion of crimes should be overlooked if the suspect is a minority. Sounds like your big problem are your own biases

Linsday Lohan and the COCAINE IN HER PANTS amounts to nothing yet the police are ALL OVER David Boston's pee.The bias may not *necessarily* be racial, but there's something fishy going on here.

I forget, what did Tank Johmson's BAC come out to? And what was he charged with? And that's in Arizona folks, the South of the West.

He was caught for doing 40 in a 25 and released without charge which is common in AZ. I live here and people don't get charged for speeding unless in certain areas or if they are super intoxicated. So you don't believe race plays any part in how some celebs and athletes are treated? Im interested in your response....

His BAC was below the legal limit for charging him with a DUI. Same as with Lohan's coke, not enough to charge. Just offering a parallel situation in which a black athlete with significant criminal history was not charged for the same reason that a white celebrity with significant alcohol/drug history was not charged.

The point I think he was trying to make between Boston and Lohan is how vigorously did the police go after Lohan compared to Boston. Where was the battery of urine tests with Lohan? It's like 2 different legal systems sometimes.

Why would they test her for drugs when they found them on her? She was arrested right then and there. Also she wasn't the driver so there was no DUI implications, no need to test her.

The same reason they drug test other people I have known when they were just passengers when a car was pulled....because they can. It doesn't matter if your the driver or not you have drugs on you they should test you...they don't just "assume" because you are not driving. And no one is after her in the same manner the would a normal person in the same circumstance.

They FOUND drugs ON her, no need to test. A famous athlete is not a normal person either, which is what we're talking about anyways.

And yet many a black famous person or athlete is treated like a normal person not a celeb. Go figure. Your examples earlier of Jayson Williams and Tank Johnson are a small minority compared to others. Michael Jackson is crucified for his dealings with children, but it's ok for Woody Allen to moleste and marry his underage step daughter? No one bats an eye about that one hell they used to show them at Knicks games together. Like "And the great Woody Allen is here tonight"Like I said it seems like 2 different legal systems....

 

[jbz]

I'm sure Boston is in free agency in many leagues. The question is what is his fantasy value, if any, at this point?

Last quote I saw from Gruden said the WR2 spot would be by committee between Boston, Stovall and Hilliard.

not that i'm doubting ya, but you got a link for that? I'd like to read in what context Gruden said it. thanks

 

[Knight who says Ni]

And yet many a black famous person or athlete is treated like a normal person not a celeb. Go figure. Your examples earlier of Jayson Williams and Tank Johnson are a small minority compared to others. Michael Jackson is crucified for his dealings with children, but it's ok for Woody Allen to moleste and marry his underage step daughter? No one bats an eye about that one hell they used to show them at Knicks games together. Like "And the great Woody Allen is here tonight"Like I said it seems like 2 different legal systems....

I thought Soon-Yi was in her 20's when they were having an affair - and Michael Jackson was 'sharing his bed' with and serving alcohol to kids who were what. .. 12? Ni

 

[phillyphan07]

"This happened to me last year," Boston reportedly told police. "I don't know what it was then. I just need to leave and get back to Tampa."

soooo.... narcolepsy? i guess its not impossible...

 

[JohnnyU]

To be honest, I really haven't cared to read everything regarding this story, so excuse me if I'm missing something reported on Boston. I once pulled over to sleep because I was tired. I literally couldn't drive another second, so to protect myself and others I pulled over to sleep, and yes, I was groggy after waking up. It happens. Why can't the police accept the fact that maybe Boston was tired, even if he did fall asleep where he shouldn't have?

 

[avoiding injuries]

This thread needs some OJ and Kobe.

I think the police are aware of how many people have seen the arrest video and are making an attempt to "save face" which I believe will backfire on them when it's all said and done.

 

[CrossEyed]

I'm sure Boston is in free agency in many leagues. The question is what is his fantasy value, if any, at this point?

Last quote I saw from Gruden said the WR2 spot would be by committee between Boston, Stovall and Hilliard.

not that i'm doubting ya, but you got a link for that? I'd like to read in what context Gruden said it. thanks

Latest newsAugust 30, 2007, 09:21

Buccaneers :: WR

Four Players Battle For Starting Flanker Spot

Tampa Tribune - [Full Article]

Tampa Bay Buccaneers HC Jon Gruden is prepared to go with a flanker-by-committee, at least to start the season but he'd rather have one of his flanker candidates to step up. WR Maurice Stovall is still the player most likely to win this job, but he has to look like the player he was late last year to do it. Keep an eye on Stovall, WR Michael Clayton, WR David Boston and WR Ike Hilliard tonight. If one stands out, there's a good chance he will start the opener in Seattle.

 

[SharkBait]

They were after Vick , now after Boston ( Surprise they are both black ) ...................They would arrest Manning Drunk and stone and would let him go for sure with a tap in the back and congratulate him for the SuperBowl win .There is a big problem somewhere.

There may have been overreaction to both Vick and Boston but it is hardly a race issue - guess suspicion of crimes should be overlooked if the suspect is a minority. Sounds like your big problem are your own biases

Linsday Lohan and the COCAINE IN HER PANTS amounts to nothing yet the police are ALL OVER David Boston's pee.The bias may not *necessarily* be racial, but there's something fishy going on here.

I'm not sure it's race, though that could certainly play a part. I watched the video. My take was you had a loser standing there having his day with a professional athlete. I worked with police officers for 7 years and have the utmost respect for them, but you're just going to continue to have these little dweebs that were picked on in high school (or worse yet, ignored) by the stud athletes. So they get a badge and spend the rest of their lives compensating. Those are the words from the officers I worked with, not mine.

 

[mad sweeney]

To be honest, I really haven't cared to read everything regarding this story, so excuse me if I'm missing something reported on Boston. I once pulled over to sleep because I was tired. I literally couldn't drive another second, so to protect myself and others, I pulled over to sleep, and yes, I was groggy after waking up. It happens. Why can't the police accept the fact that maybe Boston was tired, even if he did fall asleep where he shouldn't have?

When/if the results come back negative they will. However, Boston is known to be a user of substances for his workouts that aren't found on the streets and not tested for under normal circumstances. So they're doing more testing than normal.

 

[faulkfan]

To be honest, I really haven't cared to read everything regarding this story, so excuse me if I'm missing something reported on Boston. I once pulled over to sleep because I was tired. I literally couldn't drive another second, so to protect myself and others, I pulled over to sleep, and yes, I was groggy after waking up. It happens. Why can't the police accept the fact that maybe Boston was tired, even if he did fall asleep where he shouldn't have?

I do tink there was mention that he was asleep with the keys in the ingnition, the car running and I think the article said he was in an active travel lane.I still don't buy that he was on something, but those components make the situation stickier for Boston to explain.

 

[willeys2]

If you want to see how stupid this all is, check this out. The video doesn't lie.

http://tbo.com/video/xml/MGBMLUB3R5F.html

 

[[icon]]

They were after Vick , now after Boston ( Surprise they are both black ) ...................

They would arrest Manning Drunk and stone and would let him go for sure with a tap in the back and congratulate him for the SuperBowl win .



There is a big problem somewhere.

Yes... there is.... it's people attempting to paint this into some racial issue NAACP style and linking the vick/boston cases together. They are nothing alike. Vick was a criminal who deserves every minute of time he gets. Boston passed out behind the wheel of the car and therefore warranted a thorough investigation. Page me when Manning is found passed out behind the wheel unaware of his surroundings and lacking coordination and I'll give you a pass on this idiocy.. until then give it up.

 

[mad sweeney]

If you want to see how stupid this all is, check this out. The video doesn't lie.

http://tbo.com/video/xml/MGBMLUB3R5F.html

There was also some time that passed between when Boston was awakened to when the video started, keep that in mind. The video is not the only eveidence the cops used to make their decision to arrest him for suspicion of driving while impaired.

 

[[icon]]

If you want to see how stupid this all is, check this out. The video doesn't lie.

http://tbo.com/video/xml/MGBMLUB3R5F.html

There was also some time that passed between when Boston was awakened to when the video started, keep that in mind. The video is not the only eveidence the cops used to make their decision to arrest him for suspicion of driving while impaired.

Now don't you go bringing logic and common sense into this debate....

 

[Lash]

Michael Jackson is crucified for his dealings with children,

he was?

 

[switz]

I'm sure Boston is in free agency in many leagues. The question is what is his fantasy value, if any, at this point?

Last quote I saw from Gruden said the WR2 spot would be by committee between Boston, Stovall and Hilliard.

not that i'm doubting ya, but you got a link for that? I'd like to read in what context Gruden said it. thanks

here

Stovall currently has an opportunity to start for the Bucs, but he has to catch his chance before it slips away. According to the initial training camp depth chart, Stovall and Joey Galloway were listed as first-team receivers. But Stovall has not started any of Tampa Bay's three preseason games.

Bucs coach Jon Gruden announced this week he intended to use a committee of receivers opposite Galloway, meaning Stovall is still close to becoming a starter but has yet to take that final step.

Stovall can make a convincing argument to regain his No. 1 spot when Tampa Bay hosts Houston on Thursday in the final exhibition game.

"I don't feel like I have slacked off. Coach Gruden is our head coach, he makes decisions, and his decisions are final," Stovall said. "I never question that and I would never come to him and ask him about that. My thing is to come out and work every day and everything else will take care of itself.

"I don't feel like I've lost any momentum. My body is healthy. I am mentally prepared. I'm coming out here every day to work. I'm looking forward to this season, and looking forward to performing this Thursday against Houston and getting our season off the ground."

Gruden used to speak at length about receivers Joey Galloway, David Boston, Ike Hilliard and Stovall, but recently has elected to speak about them as a group.

"Ike Hilliard is not exactly a guy who lacks in effort," Gruden said. "What David Boston has done is one of the truly great stories I've ever been around in football. Michael Clayton doesn't want to give up his territory either.

"These guys have all worked hard and we're going to need them all because it's a long year."

 

[switz]

And yet many a black famous person or athlete is treated like a normal person not a celeb. Go figure. Your examples earlier of Jayson Williams and Tank Johnson are a small minority compared to others. Michael Jackson is crucified for his dealings with children, but it's ok for Woody Allen to moleste and marry his underage step daughter? No one bats an eye about that one hell they used to show them at Knicks games together. Like "And the great Woody Allen is here tonight"Like I said it seems like 2 different legal systems....

I thought Soon-Yi was in her 20's when they were having an affair - and Michael Jackson was 'sharing his bed' with and serving alcohol to kids who were what. .. 12? Ni

Yeah... huge difference between MJ and WA... MJ is a child molestor, WA is not.

 

[faulkfan]

That video brings up a lot of questions about the process.

Boston complied with everything he was asked (although sometimes reluctantly) and offered to give both a breath and blood test. He didn't have problems with any of the tests as far as performing them, yet they make him go through it anyway. When it is all over the cop says well I think you're under the influence of somethng so I'm gonna arrest you.

If you were going to arrest him no matter what then why bother with the physical sobriety tests? In essence they have nothing on him, the initial tests show nothing, the next tests may show nothing, and yet somehow he'll still have a cloud of suspicion hanging over him. In that regard the process is failing. I know that anyone on this board who is supporting how this played out has never been in the situation and if they were they'd be screaming from the rooftops about how unfair life is and how cops are power hungry bastards

It is also important to understand that some people have different past experiences with police than others so Boston's reluctance at the beginning of the video may be a result of that.

In all I just go back to the question that if they were going to arrest him anyway then why make him dance like a trained poodle along side the road for all to see? Why not just take him to the station immediately?

 

[RedZone]

I watched the video and frankly, this law enforcement office was condenscending and attempted to distract DB several times during the exam. It should be noted that he was arrested for suspicion of DUI, meaning under the influence of specific, listed drugs that might impair one's ability to operate a vehicle safely. The toxicology should absolve him of suspicion of use of the standard agents tested for in that jurisdiction.

The failure of the arresting officer to allow him to refuse the FST and contact his attorney was a violation from my understanding, based upon the interpretations of law by the US Supreme Court. Once it was made clear that DB was being questioned for accusatory as opposed to investigatory purposes (he was the only individual involved), he has right to representation. I forget the case, but it is a famous one relating to the Constitutional Bill of Rights, relating to the sixth amendment.

My primary suspicion would be (superficially, with no insight or information other than what public news sources have reported for what they are worth) fatigue or hypoglycemia, with the remote possibility of a sleeping disorder. The greatest concern I would have with an athlete would be the use of insulin causing hypoglycemia. Insulin is used by many athletes illicitly to prevent muscle loss and aid in recovery. It can be tested for but is not in standard DOT toxicology or NFL testing.

I do not believe it is appropriate to test Boston for any agents that would not be tested for in any other individual arrested for the same offense. I do not believe that many non-impaired people would have done better in the tests.

One aspect not understood by many non-athletes is that standing with heels together is relatively easy for someone with limited development of the leg muscles, but for those with large thighs, it is awkward and creates an immediate imbalance. This is also true for the obese. I remember Al Roker, tv weatherman, could not bring his feet closer than a foot apart when he was morbidly obese. I wonder if he would have failed the FST. Further, DB's upper body mass allows for easy deviation of his center of balance, aggravated by his height. If you need an example, stand an unsharpened pencil on its flat, lead end then try to do the same with a lollipop. For people who have not practiced FST activities, the use of one's arms is natural and instinctive.

His speech was not impaired from the tape viewing and he was not combative. The officer's bias against his celebrity and infamy was evident from my perspective. I believe DB has grounds for a complaint, but likely just wants this to end. If his attorney does not call for a public apology and dismissal of charges with an expungement of the arrest from his record, I would be surprised.

 

[mad sweeney]

The video was debated to death in the other thread, can we not rehash all the other arguments?

 

[FavreCo]

Could it be that the blood flow to Boston's dome is impaired because so much blood is needed to operate his biceps? He was driving a long distance and had to keep his arms on the steering wheel. It may have caused him to go to sleep. Like a self induced sleeper hold. Someone may want to look into that.

 

[Godsbrother]

I watched the video and frankly, this law enforcement office was condenscending and attempted to distract DB several times during the exam. It should be noted that he was arrested for suspicion of DUI, meaning under the influence of specific, listed drugs that might impair one's ability to operate a vehicle safely. The toxicology should absolve him of suspicion of use of the standard agents tested for in that jurisdiction.The failure of the arresting officer to allow him to refuse the FST and contact his attorney was a violation from my understanding, based upon the interpretations of law by the US Supreme Court. Once it was made clear that DB was being questioned for accusatory as opposed to investigatory purposes (he was the only individual involved), he has right to representation. I forget the case, but it is a famous one relating to the Constitutional Bill of Rights, relating to the sixth amendment.My primary suspicion would be (superficially, with no insight or information other than what public news sources have reported for what they are worth) fatigue or hypoglycemia, with the remote possibility of a sleeping disorder. The greatest concern I would have with an athlete would be the use of insulin causing hypoglycemia. Insulin is used by many athletes illicitly to prevent muscle loss and aid in recovery. It can be tested for but is not in standard DOT toxicology or NFL testing.I do not believe it is appropriate to test Boston for any agents that would not be tested for in any other individual arrested for the same offense. I do not believe that many non-impaired people would have done better in the tests.One aspect not understood by many non-athletes is that standing with heels together is relatively easy for someone with limited development of the leg muscles, but for those with large thighs, it is awkward and creates an immediate imbalance. This is also true for the obese. I remember Al Roker, tv weatherman, could not bring his feet closer than a foot apart when he was morbidly obese. I wonder if he would have failed the FST. Further, DB's upper body mass allows for easy deviation of his center of balance, aggravated by his height. If you need an example, stand an unsharpened pencil on its flat, lead end then try to do the same with a lollipop. For people who have not practiced FST activities, the use of one's arms is natural and instinctive.His speech was not impaired from the tape viewing and he was not combative. The officer's bias against his celebrity and infamy was evident from my perspective. I believe DB has grounds for a complaint, but likely just wants this to end. If his attorney does not call for a public apology and dismissal of charges with an expungement of the arrest from his record, I would be surprised.

 

[GregR_2]

...

The failure of the arresting officer to allow him to refuse the FST and contact his attorney was a violation from my understanding, based upon the interpretations of law by the US Supreme Court. Once it was made clear that DB was being questioned for accusatory as opposed to investigatory purposes (he was the only individual involved), he has right to representation. I forget the case, but it is a famous one relating to the Constitutional Bill of Rights, relating to the sixth amendment.

...

IANAL, but I found this interesting, so a googling I went, and found the following from here.

U.S. Supreme Court

ESCOBEDO v. ILLINOIS, 378 U.S. 478 (1964)

378 U.S. 478

ESCOBEDO v. ILLINOIS.

CERTIORARI TO THE SUPREME COURT OF ILLINOIS.

No. 615.

Argued April 29, 1964.

Decided June 22, 1964.

...

Nothing we have said today affects the powers of the police to investigate "an unsolved crime," Spano v. New York, 360 U.S. 315, 327 (STEWART, J., concurring), by gathering information from witnesses and by other "proper investigative efforts." Haynes v. Washington, 373 U.S. 503, 519 . We hold only that when the process shifts from investigatory to accusatory - when its focus is on the accused and its purpose is to elicit a confession - our adversary system begins to operate, and, under the circumstances here, the accused must be permitted to consult with his lawyer.

 

[RudeDog]

Boston's cool......

I love his response to the negative result and then testing it again....

"You're not going to find anything in my urine"

:(

 

[fatness]

If people are looking for a decent comparison to Boston's arrest and subsequent drug-free tests, Chris Henry's supposed "failed urine tests" this summer are a more apt comparison than are Michael Jackson or Michael Vick. Henry's supposed test failure while on probation was leaked by a prosecutor or states attorney (I believe --- correct me if I'm wrong), and of course board sentiment assumed Henry was guilty and "out of the league for sure". Turns out he never failed a test at all, and in fact passed 2 of them.

Some cops and prosecutors are just out to get people, and make themselves and other cops and prosecutors look bad, unfortunately, when they don't let things go that amount to nothing. Maybe it's race, maybe it's personality, maybe it's small genital size, maybe it's celebrity ---- the reasons may be different in each case.