David Boston test results. (1 Viewer)

[dotman]

He is clean of 10 drugs so now they want to test for more? Why doesnt the police just stop already.

I think the reason is that they do not think it is the common street drugs that are what the tests cover. With Boston being a fitness fanatic they suspect it is something more of a designer or hybrid drug that your typical junkie isn't interested in (and probably can't afford).

What drugs that you speak of would impair his ability to drive?

 

[Diabolic]

I think the police are aware of how many people have seen the arrest video and are making an attempt to "save face" which I believe will backfire on them when it's all said and done.

Bingo!! They are reaching too far with Boston, I agree... but not because he is black. Because they are trying to keep themselves from looking stupid.As for someone else's Woody Allen / Michael Jackson comparison... wtf? Woody may be a perv but he didn't break any laws. Thus, there is nothing the law can "crucify" him for. Are you seriously comparing an affair with a 20-year old to having a bunch of pre-teen boys in your bed? Quit trying so hard... it's not a race issue. Move on, already. The rest of us have.

 

[Guapote]

Any chance of keeping a single factual thread for this in the SP, and moving the racial discussion and armchair lawyering to the FFA?

 

[Franchise Playa]

And yet many a black famous person or athlete is treated like a normal person not a celeb. Go figure. Your examples earlier of Jayson Williams and Tank Johnson are a small minority compared to others. Michael Jackson is crucified for his dealings with children, but it's ok for Woody Allen to moleste and marry his underage step daughter? No one bats an eye about that one hell they used to show them at Knicks games together. Like "And the great Woody Allen is here tonight"Like I said it seems like 2 different legal systems....

I thought Soon-Yi was in her 20's when they were having an affair - and Michael Jackson was 'sharing his bed' with and serving alcohol to kids who were what. .. 12? Ni

Yeah... huge difference between MJ and WA... MJ is a child molestor, WA is not.

So Incest is somehow more acceptable? It was still his daughter...adopted or not. And when I say molester im talking about him molesting Dylan Farrow not Soon Yi. And again nothing was made of this compared to the Michael Jackson allegations.

 

[Holland Freeze]

If you were going to arrest him no matter what then why bother with the physical sobriety tests? In essence they have nothing on him, the initial tests show nothing, the next tests may show nothing, and yet somehow he'll still have a cloud of suspicion hanging over him. In that regard the process is failing. I know that anyone on this board who is supporting how this played out has never been in the situation and if they were they'd be screaming from the rooftops about how unfair life is and how cops are power hungry bastards

One reason is that there may eventually be a trial and the tests provide the judge or more likely jury additional information to base a decision upon. The video does not show the initial tests so how do you know they showed nothing? The process is not failing - if the jury gives more weight to the tests caught on video than those that were not (which is not uncommon) like you are then the process IS working. Because you do not agree with the cop he is being unfair? I may agree there are aspects I would like to see changed as well but nothing that warrants a high pitched voice much less risking life and limb going out on a roof with it - Just got off my own roof and I'm looking to avoid having to do that again but I digress.

It is also important to understand that some people have different past experiences with police than others so Boston's reluctance at the beginning of the video may be a result of that.

I would expect you are correct.

In all I just go back to the question that if they were going to arrest him anyway then why make him dance like a trained poodle along side the road for all to see? Why not just take him to the station immediately?

Because the police gather evidence - whether all of it helps with prosecution or not.

 

[mad sweeney]

And yet many a black famous person or athlete is treated like a normal person not a celeb. Go figure. Your examples earlier of Jayson Williams and Tank Johnson are a small minority compared to others. Michael Jackson is crucified for his dealings with children, but it's ok for Woody Allen to moleste and marry his underage step daughter? No one bats an eye about that one hell they used to show them at Knicks games together. Like "And the great Woody Allen is here tonight"

Like I said it seems like 2 different legal systems....

I thought Soon-Yi was in her 20's when they were having an affair - and Michael Jackson was 'sharing his bed' with and serving alcohol to kids who were what. .. 12? Ni

Yeah... huge difference between MJ and WA... MJ is a child molestor, WA is not.

So Incest is somehow more acceptable? It was still his daughter...adopted or not. And when I say molester im talking about him molesting Dylan Farrow not Soon Yi. And again nothing was made of this compared to the Michael Jackson allegations.

Your words:

ok for Woody Allen to moleste and marry his underage step daughter

Sounds an awful lot like you were talking about Soon Yi, since he didn't marry Dylan. And here's something from Wiki:

Shortly after separating from Farrow in 1992, Allen openly continued his relationship with Soon-Yi Previn, Farrow's adopted daughter. Even though Allen and Previn denied he was ever her stepfather, the relationship drew much public and media scrutiny. At the time, Allen was 57 and Previn was 22.

 

[gianmarco]

 

[chris1969]

David Boston vs Soon-Yi

I got a really good joke about who blew more, but it may be a bit over the mods tolerances.

 

[Holland Freeze]

I watched the video and frankly, this law enforcement office was condenscending and attempted to distract DB several times during the exam. It should be noted that he was arrested for suspicion of DUI, meaning under the influence of specific, listed drugs that might impair one's ability to operate a vehicle safely. The toxicology should absolve him of suspicion of use of the standard agents tested for in that jurisdiction.

The officer treated Boston like you would anyone else who you thought may be impaired and yes that can come across as condescending when your sober... The officer was very patient and although I have have small issues with aspects of the exchange between the 2 of them I would be reluctant to immediately jump to the conclusion you've reached. I would agree an argument could be made regarding the distraction - I am not sure if it was intentional but couldn't rule it out either. Under the influence typically include a long list of Schedule 1 drugs - not all of which are common or typically tested - it only makes sense that you have someone who can afford it and has a history of using drugs (even if they are performance enhancing) to make additional checks.

The failure of the arresting officer to allow him to refuse the FST and contact his attorney was a violation from my understanding, based upon the interpretations of law by the US Supreme Court. Once it was made clear that DB was being questioned for accusatory as opposed to investigatory purposes (he was the only individual involved), he has right to representation. I forget the case, but it is a famous one relating to the Constitutional Bill of Rights, relating to the sixth amendment.

Its been a while since I've watched the full video - Boston raised concerns about the test but I don't recall him refusing to take it so of course the cop pursued him performing them. There is no right to call your attorney on a traffic stop. The police can question him and whatever case you are referring to it was not a requirement he have counsel on a traffic stop.

My primary suspicion would be (superficially, with no insight or information other than what public news sources have reported for what they are worth) fatigue or hypoglycemia, with the remote possibility of a sleeping disorder. The greatest concern I would have with an athlete would be the use of insulin causing hypoglycemia. Insulin is used by many athletes illicitly to prevent muscle loss and aid in recovery. It can be tested for but is not in standard DOT toxicology or NFL testing.

I might be more willing to buy into your theory if it were not for the nystagmus.

I do not believe it is appropriate to test Boston for any agents that would not be tested for in any other individual arrested for the same offense. I do not believe that many non-impaired people would have done better in the tests.

You suspect someone of being under the infuence of an illegal substance but because you can't pinpoint what that is you must be limited to the usual tests??? What are you basing your belief regarding non-impaired people on?

One aspect not understood by many non-athletes is that standing with heels together is relatively easy for someone with limited development of the leg muscles, but for those with large thighs, it is awkward and creates an immediate imbalance. This is also true for the obese. I remember Al Roker, tv weatherman, could not bring his feet closer than a foot apart when he was morbidly obese. I wonder if he would have failed the FST. Further, DB's upper body mass allows for easy deviation of his center of balance, aggravated by his height. If you need an example, stand an unsharpened pencil on its flat, lead end then try to do the same with a lollipop. For people who have not practiced FST activities, the use of one's arms is natural and instinctive.

I am not sure how much weight to give your body development argument - there is an element of truth to it. You are correct the ue of your arms is natural and instinctive when you need them for balance - that is why people are instructed not to - the test is evaluating body control... People not impaired can not only remember the instructions but follow them as well.

His speech was not impaired from the tape viewing and he was not combative. The officer's bias against his celebrity and infamy was evident from my perspective. I believe DB has grounds for a complaint, but likely just wants this to end. If his attorney does not call for a public apology and dismissal of charges with an expungement of the arrest from his record, I would be surprised.

I'm related to people who could be bombed and not have their speech impaired and to just look at them not immediately know they were drunk. Impaired speech is a sign of being under the influence, not having your speech impaired does not mean you are not. Likewise not everyone becomes combative. The cop was bending over backwards being as polite as possible to Boston so if there was a bias I don't think it hurt. What complaint would Boston have? The cop made up the part about him sleeping at the wheel on a public street?

 

[Holland Freeze]

What drugs that you speak of would impair his ability to drive?

There is a huge list of illegal drugs if I am not mistaken (and I am not) I can't even pronounce some of them. You may want to google Schedule I drugs.

 

[captbly]

Any chance of keeping a single factual thread for this in the SP, and moving the racial discussion and armchair lawyering to the FFA?

yeah thats what I was hoping for too....havent heard Boston's name called at all in the game tonight yet.

 

[Holland Freeze]

havent heard Boston's name called at all in the game tonight yet.

How many starters have?

 

[captbly]

havent heard Boston's name called at all in the game tonight yet.

How many starters have?

Part that worries me is the Announcers just said that Clayton and Stovall were getting equal time to decide #2... "we know #3 is Hilliard" This implies Boston wasnt even in the running.I hope Boston is locked at #2 and thats the reason he is not playing...but it makes me wonder.

 

[Capella]

Boston was in there for a few plays in the 2nd quarter.

 

[Holland Freeze]

Part that worries me is the Announcers just said that Clayton and Stovall were getting equal time to decide #2... "we know #3 is Hilliard" This implies Boston wasnt even in the running.I hope Boston is locked at #2 and thats the reason he is not playing...but it makes me wonder.

The announcers have to attempt to make it sound like the game has some meaning so I wouldn't put to much emphasis on what they are saying. I'm not sold on Stovall for some reason and although I would like to see Clayton rebound I suspect if Boston survives this little off field distraction he will be vying for the #2 spot.

 

[Capella]

Boston in there with the third-string running reverses in the fourth quarter, for those of you who want to look deep into those sort of things.

 

[Rushmore]

Boston in there with the third-string running reverses in the fourth quarter, for those of you who want to look deep into those sort of things.

Reverses - Plural ?

 

[Capella]

Boston in there with the third-string running reverses in the fourth quarter, for those of you who want to look deep into those sort of things.

Reverses - Plural ?

haven't really been paying a lot of attention.