David Carr agreed to a contract extension with the (1 Viewer)

[BigTex]

HOUSTON (AP) -- Quarterback David Carr agreed to a contract extension with the Houston Texans on Friday, an indication the team might use its No. 1 overall pick in the draft to select Heisman Trophy running back Reggie Bush.

The Texans, who announced the extension in a news release, did not provide details, but called a 2 p.m. news conference to discuss the deal.

Texas quarterback Vince Young, a Houston native, and Bush are considered the top players in the April draft. Young, the Rose Bowl MVP after leading the Longhorns to a last-minute win over USC in the national title game, would seem to be the popular pick, but the Texans apparently are happy with Carr.

Carr has started 59 of the 64 games in Houston's four-year history. Last season, he completed 256-of-423 passes with 14 touchdowns and 11 interceptions.

From the Associated Press.

 

[Brant]

Was it an extension, or did the Texans pick up an $8 million option that was negotiated in his original deal?

 

[Chitown Mole]

Carr met the voidable years clause and the Texans had two options of 2 years and 3 years. They signed him to the longest term option of 3 years. This most likely means we draft Bush or trade the pick.

 

[dickey moe]

They're keeping Carr. They have D. Davis. They don't need Reggie freaking Bush. They need to trade this pick and draft some OL for the future.

 

[diesel7982]

They're keeping Carr. They have D. Davis. They don't need Reggie freaking Bush. They need to trade this pick and draft some OL for the future.

Exactly. Just like the Chiefs should have drafted defense instead of Larry Johnson. They needed DEFENSE, not another RB. Houston should take a lesson from them about what happens when you draft BPA instead of for need.

 

[Warpig]

They're keeping Carr. They have D. Davis. They don't need Reggie freaking Bush. They need to trade this pick and draft some OL for the future.

Exactly. Just like the Chiefs should have drafted defense instead of Larry Johnson. They needed DEFENSE, not another RB. Houston should take a lesson from them about what happens when you draft BPA instead of for need.

Uh...this is an uninformed comment. The Chiefs took LJ because that was the year Priest was recovering from that leg injury he had. They drafted LJ as insurance incase Priest couldn't play. That was also the year Priest was threatening to hold out for a better contract. They didn't necessarilly take LJ because he was the best player available. With that O-line the chiefs have they could have drafted me and I'd ramble for 2000 yards.

 

[Boston]

This move along with what they do with the #1 pick will make or break this franchise for the forseeable future. While I fully understand that Carr has been in a bad situation (that O line situation is criminal) I haven't seen much growth in Carr and am very skeptical that he will live up to his draft status. Assuming Houston solidifies their O line (if they don't they should disband) Carr really needs to improve/develop this year and show he can be a winning NFL QB.

Whether it's his fault or the situation (or a combo of both) he has been in the bottomline is Carr is a long way from being a productive NFL QB. It will be interesting to see whether he becomes the next Jim Plunkett or the next Tim Couch. If it's Couch than the Texan franchise is really going to be in tough shape.

 

[GRIDIRON ASSASSIN]

By resigning Carr, and giving Dom Davis an extension last year, the Texans are in a position to trade down and pick up D'Brickshaw Ferguson now.

Will they? Probably not.

But at least they have that option.

I also like the fact that Mike Sherman is going to be down there next year - he was merely the fall guy up in Green Bay.

 

[MLBrandow]

Now can we please quit talking about Vince Young to Houston? That's so never going to happen.

 

[Donnybrook]

Whether it's his fault or the situation (or a combo of both) he has been in the bottomline is Carr is a long way from being a productive NFL QB. It will be interesting to see whether he becomes the next Jim Plunkett or the next Tim Couch. If it's Couch than the Texan franchise is really going to be in tough shape.

I think the Browns might be smarter than the Texans. After 59 starts, Couch was shown the door. After 59 starts, Carr is given another 3 years and $8 mil bonus.

 

[trader jake]

I also like the fact that Mike Sherman is going to be down there next year - he was merely the fall guy up in Green Bay.

and chris palmer was just the fall guy in cleveland before he came to the texans

 

[ren hoek]

I also like the fact that Mike Sherman is going to be down there next year - he was merely the fall guy up in Green Bay.

and chris palmer was just the fall guy in cleveland before he came to the texans

I think Sherman is a terrible head coach too, but he's a great OC.

 

[coolnerd]

Whether it's his fault or the situation (or a combo of both) he has been in the bottomline is Carr is a long way from being a productive NFL QB.  It will be interesting to see whether he becomes the next Jim Plunkett or the next Tim Couch.  If it's Couch than the Texan franchise is really going to be in tough shape.

I think the Browns might be smarter than the Texans. After 59 starts, Couch was shown the door. After 59 starts, Carr is given another 3 years and $8 mil bonus.

If nothing else, after 59 starts you should not guessing as to whether or not your QB is good or not. The fact the no one truly knows whether Carr really sucks, has just been in a bad situation or is just an average QB after 4 years of being the uncontested starter says everything that needs to be said about the Texans organization.

 

[Texasmouth]

I also like the fact that Mike Sherman is going to be down there next year - he was merely the fall guy up in Green Bay.

and chris palmer was just the fall guy in cleveland before he came to the texans

No way you can honestly blame Sherman for Green Bay last year? They were on their 6th string running back, lost three starting WR and had more injuries all over the team. What could he have done different?

 

[Donnybrook]

Whether it's his fault or the situation (or a combo of both) he has been in the bottomline is Carr is a long way from being a productive NFL QB.  It will be interesting to see whether he becomes the next Jim Plunkett or the next Tim Couch.  If it's Couch than the Texan franchise is really going to be in tough shape.

I think the Browns might be smarter than the Texans. After 59 starts, Couch was shown the door. After 59 starts, Carr is given another 3 years and $8 mil bonus.

If nothing else, after 59 starts you should not guessing as to whether or not your QB is good or not. The fact the no one truly knows whether Carr really sucks, has just been in a bad situation or is just an average QB after 4 years of being the uncontested starter says everything that needs to be said about the Texans organization.

I am surprised that the Texans opted for the 3 year option rather than the 2 year.I figure everyone expects Carr to make like Drew Brees and put up career numbers this year. The difference is of course is Drew did not get his 8 mil until after he put up those stats not before.

I am hoping they take a sleeper QB in the later rounds and he turns out to be good enough to challenge Carr.

 

[DrJ]

This move along with what they do with the #1 pick will make or break this franchise for the forseeable future. While I fully understand that Carr has been in a bad situation (that O line situation is criminal) I haven't seen much growth in Carr and am very skeptical that he will live up to his draft status. Assuming Houston solidifies their O line (if they don't they should disband) Carr really needs to improve/develop this year and show he can be a winning NFL QB.

Whether it's his fault or the situation (or a combo of both) he has been in the bottomline is Carr is a long way from being a productive NFL QB. It will be interesting to see whether he becomes the next Jim Plunkett or the next Tim Couch. If it's Couch than the Texan franchise is really going to be in tough shape.

In 04, Houston allowed 49 sacks. Chicago was #1 at 66, #2 was a tie with 52.Despite that, Carr completed 61.2% of his passes, threw for over 3500 yards, had a 7.58 YPA average, and threw for 16/14 TD/Int as well. That really isn't too bad.

In 05, they allowed 68 sacks!! Next closest was 54.

Despite that, Carr completed 60.5% of his passes, and still had a positive TD/Int ratio at 14/11. Yards and YPA dipped, but you would expect that with 39% more sacks than the season before.

While he may not live up to that draft status entirely, has he really been bad? Those numbers look at least a little above average given that terrible situation.

 

[Boston]

This move along with what they do with the #1 pick will make or break this franchise for the forseeable future.  While I fully understand that Carr has been in a bad situation (that O line situation is criminal) I haven't seen much growth in Carr and am very skeptical that he will live up to his draft status.  Assuming Houston solidifies their O line (if they don't they should disband) Carr really needs to improve/develop this year and show he can be a winning NFL QB.

Whether it's his fault or the situation (or a combo of both) he has been in the bottomline is Carr is a long way from being a productive NFL QB.  It will be interesting to see whether he becomes the next Jim Plunkett or the next Tim Couch.  If it's Couch than the Texan franchise is really going to be in tough shape.

In 04, Houston allowed 49 sacks. Chicago was #1 at 66, #2 was a tie with 52.Despite that, Carr completed 61.2% of his passes, threw for over 3500 yards, had a 7.58 YPA average, and threw for 16/14 TD/Int as well. That really isn't too bad.

In 05, they allowed 68 sacks!! Next closest was 54.

Despite that, Carr completed 60.5% of his passes, and still had a positive TD/Int ratio at 14/11. Yards and YPA dipped, but you would expect that with 39% more sacks than the season before.

While he may not live up to that draft status entirely, has he really been bad? Those numbers look at least a little above average given that terrible situation.

Having watched him play I say yes he has been bad. I'm just not impressed by him. He doesn't seem to have the intangibles or leadership qualities that translate into a big time QB. He still makes very bad decisions and holds onto the ball way to long. He has raw talent, that I am not questioning. Yet, every time I see him he looks pretty clueless and way behind where a QB that's been in the league for four years should be. As I stated...whether it's his fault or the situation or a combo of both is open for debate. Yet, right now I don't think anyone would be paying too much attention to him if a #1 selection and a big time contract wasn't already invested in him. Doesn't mean he's already a has been but it does mean that 2006 is an urgent year for him to make a giant step forward and show he can be a winning NFL QB.

 

[Purpulhippo999]

this is what i think will happen now:

Texans trade the #1 Pick to the Jets for John Abraham in a sign-and-trade and the #4 pick....the Jets take Reggie Bush and the Texans pick D'Brickishaw Ferguson...everyone is happy

 

[Chitown Mole]

this is what i think will happen now:

Texans trade the #1 Pick to the Jets for John Abraham in a sign-and-trade and the #4 pick....the Jets take Reggie Bush and the Texans pick D'Brickishaw Ferguson...everyone is happy

I wouldn't move down for that. John Abraham doesn't equate to the first overall pick in the draft.

 

[Boston]

this is what i think will happen now:

Texans trade the #1 Pick to the Jets for John Abraham in a sign-and-trade and the #4 pick....the Jets take Reggie Bush and the Texans pick D'Brickishaw Ferguson...everyone is happy

I wouldn't move down for that. John Abraham doesn't equate to the first overall pick in the draft.

He has a very questionable character. While the talent is there I don't think he's the type of personality to build your team around which is what will happen if he gets the contract he's looking for.

 

[Gopher State]

With the signing of Carr looks like the following will happen:

Texans trade D. Davis to MN for WR Troy W.

Texans draft BUSH

 

[Norseman]

With the signing of Carr looks like the following will happen:

Texans trade D. Davis to MN for WR Troy W.

Texans draft BUSH

If the Vikings did that I think I would :X

 

[Z-Dog]

this is what i think will happen now:

Texans trade the #1 Pick to the Jets for John Abraham in a sign-and-trade and the #4 pick....the Jets take Reggie Bush and the Texans pick D'Brickishaw Ferguson...everyone is happy

I wouldn't move down for that. John Abraham doesn't equate to the first overall pick in the draft.

He was suggesting Abraham + 1.04= 1.01. Acutally, I think that Houston might owe the Jets a 3rd rounder in that deal. Abraham has gotta be worth a 1st-round pick in the 11-20 range.

 

[LBH]

this is what i think will happen now:

Texans trade the #1 Pick to the Jets for John Abraham in a sign-and-trade and the #4 pick....the Jets take Reggie Bush and the Texans pick D'Brickishaw Ferguson...everyone is happy

As a jet fan,I'd be all for that deal

 

[Biabreakable]

They're keeping Carr. They have D. Davis. They don't need Reggie freaking Bush. They need to trade this pick and draft some OL for the future.

Exactly. Just like the Chiefs should have drafted defense instead of Larry Johnson. They needed DEFENSE, not another RB. Houston should take a lesson from them about what happens when you draft BPA instead of for need.

Uh...this is an uninformed comment. The Chiefs took LJ because that was the year Priest was recovering from that leg injury he had. They drafted LJ as insurance incase Priest couldn't play. That was also the year Priest was threatening to hold out for a better contract. They didn't necessarilly take LJ because he was the best player available. With that O-line the chiefs have they could have drafted me and I'd ramble for 2000 yards.

I just added Warpig to super sleeper list for deep dynasty leagues.

 

[Jason Wood]

I also like the fact that Mike Sherman is going to be down there next year - he was merely the fall guy up in Green Bay.

and chris palmer was just the fall guy in cleveland before he came to the texans

I think Sherman is a terrible head coach too, but he's a great OC.

Sherman was an offensive coordinator in the NFL for one year, with Seattle. And Holmgren called the plays. If anything, you can say Sherman has a lot of experience as an offensive line coach. IIRC, Sherman has only been an offensive coordinator for two seasons of his coaching career: 1988 at Holy Cross and 1999 in Seattle.

 

[coolnerd]

this is what i think will happen now:

Texans trade the #1 Pick to the Jets for John Abraham in a sign-and-trade and the #4 pick....the Jets take Reggie Bush and the Texans pick D'Brickishaw Ferguson...everyone is happy

I wouldn't move down for that. John Abraham doesn't equate to the first overall pick in the draft.

He was suggesting Abraham + 1.04= 1.01. Acutally, I think that Houston might owe the Jets a 3rd rounder in that deal. Abraham has gotta be worth a 1st-round pick in the 11-20 range.

Using the silly trade chart, if you value Abraham around 15-16, the Jets would be the ones who owe the Texans at least a third. Anyway, I don't believe the Texans will move down w/o an overpay of some sort.

 

[ren hoek]

I also like the fact that Mike Sherman is going to be down there next year - he was merely the fall guy up in Green Bay.

and chris palmer was just the fall guy in cleveland before he came to the texans

I think Sherman is a terrible head coach too, but he's a great OC.

Sherman was an offensive coordinator in the NFL for one year, with Seattle. And Holmgren called the plays. If anything, you can say Sherman has a lot of experience as an offensive line coach. IIRC, Sherman has only been an offensive coordinator for two seasons of his coaching career: 1988 at Holy Cross and 1999 in Seattle.

I thought I remembered Sherman taking over the play-calling for the offense a few years back when they were struggling and the Packers playing much better offensively as a result. I mistakingly thought he had been an OC for a few years prior to taking the Packer job. In any case, I still think he'd be a very good OC.