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David Hawthorne (1 Viewer)
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Jene Bramel
Footballguy
Limited in practice yesterday, but there's not been any concern from team observers that he'll miss the game.
TheCommish
Footballguy
That's good news. I'm pretty happy with my LB4, but I would rather roll with Hawthorne, Maualuga and Daryl Washington every week that I can.
I assume Aaron Curry would be the LB to pick up if Hawthorne were to miss time?
I assume Aaron Curry would be the LB to pick up if Hawthorne were to miss time?
Qtip Callahan
Footballguy
http://blog.seattlepi.com/football/2011/09/09/seahawks-injuries-robert-gallery-sidney-rice-both-doubtful-for-season-opener/Good updates here on the Seahawks. Main IDP news- Hawthorne is probable but they say KJ Wright may start over Hawthorne, and Chris Clemons tweaked an ankle Thursday but should be good to go. There is a video on the blog as well where Carroll gives an update on all things related to injured Hawks as of today.As a Hawthorne owner, disappointing news. Unless I get a warmer, fuzzier feeling, I've gotta think benching him is the right move. And maybe Wright is sneaky, but if they split snaps, neither is probably worth starting.
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KellysHeroes
Footballguy
if hes prob I'm starting him; but don't got much choice
Sleeperz
Footballguy
This is giving me a very bad feeling. Hawthorne was probably drafted high by most here because of the move back to MLB, playing FT with Tatupa now gone. The team is so impressed by Wright's play that they have little problem starting him and playing him all game even though Hawthorne may be probable? I don't like the sounds of this.
There's been talk about him not playing for days. I've been burnt way too many times in the past not checking on all of my players who show up on the injury report. Even probable.
Qtip Callahan
Footballguy
Yeah, it takes some work to be good with IDP. I went with Levy this morning over Hawthorne, I didn't want to take a chance. Levy didn't do much, but better than a goose egg. The good news is that I haven't heard or seen much of anything from Wright, so I gotta think they go back to Hawthorne when he's healthy.
TheCommish
Footballguy
I checked on Hawthorne's status 5 minutes too late. Cost me a chance at our weekly high team defense score. Kicking myself for not checking it sooner, as I would have been able to put Thomas Davis in there for him.
gregjcross
Footballguy
Hawthorne had not played since preseason week2 - SEA coaching staff just has refused to say what exactly was wrong with his knee (deep bruise or cartilage tear/tweak) but its been out there for a long time that he hasn't practiced.
onionsack
Footballguy
Actually Wright had a rock-solid performance, and for a rookie starting in the middle he did a superb job marshaling the defense. I assume Hawthorne resumes his job when he's ready, but Wright was fantastic all preseason and is a great dynasty stash.
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
Not much in the box score
Sleeperz
Footballguy
David Hawthorne - LB - Seattle Seahawks Sep 12, 2011
Seahawks MLB David Hawthorne (knee) is expected to return for Week 2 and be "100 percent" against the Steelers.
The Seahawks were surprisingly stout against the San Francisco run game without Hawthorne in Week 1, despite only five tackles (three solo) from replacement middle linebacker K.J. Wright. Realistically, Seattle should have a very good run defense this season. They just don't do anything else well. Source: John Boyle on Twitter
Seahawks MLB David Hawthorne (knee) is expected to return for Week 2 and be "100 percent" against the Steelers.
The Seahawks were surprisingly stout against the San Francisco run game without Hawthorne in Week 1, despite only five tackles (three solo) from replacement middle linebacker K.J. Wright. Realistically, Seattle should have a very good run defense this season. They just don't do anything else well. Source: John Boyle on Twitter
Professor S
Footballguy
The goose egg he gave me as a "probable" scratch when I lost by less than a point is going to lead me to drop him, healthy or not.
Sleeperz
Footballguy
The coaching staff said they would make a decision on whether he would play, right before gametime. In situations like that with 4pm games, its better to play it safe and put in a sub. Dropping him now because he didn't play seems a bit silly. I think you will regret that move.
Qtip Callahan
Footballguy
Interesting- I'll watch him more carefully next time. Per the other guy, box score wasn't heavy but of course that doesn't always tell the story.
Professor S
Footballguy
If he's a GTD then why list him as probable? I'll admit it was my fault for not checking his status but probable scratches are rare IMO and I don't want to deal with a headache like this all year long. If I can pick up Vilma, who an owner foolishly dropped in our league in his place I think that's a reasonable thing to do. Admittedly I'm clouded by my emotions here, but that move seems like a no-brainer.'Sleeperz said:
buck56
Footballguy
Hawthorne will have a better season that Vilma barring an injury.I would stick w/ Hawthorne.
This is like cutting off your nose to spite your face.
Professor S
Footballguy
Okay...you guys are talking me off the ledge. Still gonna explore other options but not as adamant about it as I was before.
football fan
Footballguy
http://football12.myfantasyleague.com/2011/view_news_article?L=38643&ID=739755KFFL
Seattle Seahawks head coach Pete Carroll said Monday, Sept. 12, that he expects LB David Hawthorne (knee) to be 100 percent and back in Week 2 against the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Seattle Seahawks head coach Pete Carroll said Monday, Sept. 12, that he expects LB David Hawthorne (knee) to be 100 percent and back in Week 2 against the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Professor S
Footballguy
Updates since you guys talked me off the ledge? Full practice participant this week? Any reason to doubt his ability to start tomorrow?
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
against a heavy dose of mendy, look for David to be LB1 in terms of tackles
johnnyboy8102
Footballguy
I am starting Hawthorne over Lofton.
southeastjerome
Footballguy
Did he practice fully? I haven't read anything the past few days on him.
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
beginning of the 4th against Pitt and hes 1-1...
CataclysmicThunder
Footballguy
A huge one. What happened? I see that Matt McCoy had a big game. Did he start over Hawthorne?
johnnyboy8102
Footballguy
What happened here?
Otter
Footballguy
Overhyped/Overrated
johnnyboy8102
Footballguy
Is it even worth rostering him now? Some owner dropped Barnett after week 1 and I can pick him up.
Cause he sure hell didn't play like he does
Rushmore
Footballguy
Qtip Callahan
Footballguy
I watched a fair amount of this game, but I was flipping between all games. Have an unusual high number of Hawks in one league (Clemons, Hawthorne, Chancellor) so watched more of it than I wish I did. 
Hawthorne was in there on a lot of plays, but they definitely took him out in some passing situations. He didn't seem in attack mode from my viewpoint. Pittsburgh mixed it up a fair amount, Brandon Browner is worst NFL CB, but Hawthorne just didn't play too instictively and missed some plays too. I'm curious to read about him this week and what the Seahawks sentiment was. Hoping he shook some rust off and will improve (and play all 3 downs), one to watch closely.
Hawthorne was in there on a lot of plays, but they definitely took him out in some passing situations. He didn't seem in attack mode from my viewpoint. Pittsburgh mixed it up a fair amount, Brandon Browner is worst NFL CB, but Hawthorne just didn't play too instictively and missed some plays too. I'm curious to read about him this week and what the Seahawks sentiment was. Hoping he shook some rust off and will improve (and play all 3 downs), one to watch closely.
Gary Davenport
Footballguy
They may have been rotating him out because of the knee, but I'll confess I haven't seen much of this game yet so I'm not gonna speculate too much.Last week everyone was Chicken Little-ing about McClain, Barnett, and Maualuga, and all 3 bounced back this week. IDPs can be inconsistent, it was his first game back from an injury, and I'm not grabbing a shovel just yet.I watched a fair amount of this game, but I was flipping between all games. Have an unusual high number of Hawks in one league (Clemons, Hawthorne, Chancellor) so watched more of it than I wish I did.
cr8f
Footballguy
Right. And his stats last year even with Lofa playing are too.
Otter
Footballguy
We are talking about this year, aren't we?! Two tackles (in a 4/3) does not make this guy the super stud that many have hoped he would be. Can things change? Sure they can. But I watched the game and the guy wasn't around the ball at all. He looked slow. Perhaps he's still hurt. My point is... Many thought this guy would be tearing it up to the tune of a Top-5 LB. While their defense is on the field a lot, this guy looked pathetic.Last year was last year. We'll see how he bounces back. But, I'll guarantee he is nowhere near a must start LB. Right now, he's not even a LB3.
Jene Bramel
Footballguy
Hawthorne is not fully healthy and not currently playing on passing downs.
Didn't want to comment yesterday until I watched the game again. Only caught glimpses during the day yesterday, but it was clear from the brief snippets on RedZone that Matt McCoy was replacing him in the nickel defense.
Looks like Hawthorne, who has a large brace on his knee, feels okay moving in a straight line, but not laterally. He didn't get up to speed when dropping into zones or chasing plays to the sideline, but he (usually) moved quickly enough between the tackles and the knee didn't seem to bother him when breaking down to make a tackle in those situations. But his lateral agility was really limited -- taking extra steps to change directions -- and kept him from making plays he's made in the past.
Unfortunately, other than watching his progress in the coming weeks, there's no way to predict how soon the health issue resolves. It was somewhat reassuring to see him play late in the fourth quarter despite being down three scores. It's also reassuring that Matt McCoy is his primary competition for snaps.
For now, however, Hawthorne is a borderline fantasy starter.
I'm still driving the bandwagon, but I'm getting worried about one of its axles.
I started him over Sean Weatherspoon and Woodyard in both leagues. I won't make this mistake again. I will start him if (or when) he gets healthy.
BearsFan
Footballguy
Do you see him as a buy low in dynasty formats currently?
Jene Bramel
Footballguy
Bear in mind, I'm extremely stubborn about my player evaluations. I try not to be blind about things, but I recognize that I can be at times. In this case, there's evidence that suggests that Pete Carroll and company aren't sold on Hawthorne's coverage skill (Will Herring last year, Matt McCoy yesterday).But if Hawthorne comes available in any of my leagues, I'm grabbing him. Buy low? Sure, but I'm probably not paying more than LB3/LB4 prices. That's where he is for the foreseeable future.Do you see him as a buy low in dynasty formats currently?
