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David Letterman retiring (will be replaced by Colbert) (1 Viewer)

Colts Win said:
Why does Rush and his followers on here keep complaining about his liberal biases? His over the top Republican character was just that a character. He's said in interviews out of character that he's a libertarian. Rush should love that. But he understands his know nothing audience of red meat eaters will fall for anything.
because those biases amount to billions in free political advertising for democratic politicians and liberal policies

 
I'm getting more and more fed up with whatever the right wing of the GOP is these days. In fact I'm ****** off at some of what I have to deal with and this stuff is nucking futs.
:goodposting:

I simply can't fathom getting worked up over whether the host of a particular late-night show that I don't watch anyway shares my political views or not. This kind of thing isn't really isolated to the right (see for example the people who deeply care about the politics of the guy who oversees the company who makes their web browser), but it's weird no matter where it turns up. Politics shouldn't be this kind of all-encompassing lifestyle. If you're religious, "idolatry" is probably the right term, but even the secular among us ought to agree that there's something unhealthy about it.

 
Colts Win said:
TheIronSheik said:
Colts Win said:
Why does Rush and his followers on here keep complaining about his liberal biases? His over the top Republican character was just that a character. He's said in interviews out of character that he's a libertarian. Rush should love that. But he understands his no nothing audience of red meat eaters will fall for anything.
Spelling police got me. Always know you're right when that's their only response.
I'm not a Rush fan at all. And it has nothing to do about you being right or wrong.

The Golden Rule of the Internet is if you're going to call out someone for being dumb, don't misspell words while doing it.

 
I'm getting more and more fed up with whatever the right wing of the GOP is these days. In fact I'm ****** off at some of what I have to deal with and this stuff is nucking futs.
:goodposting:

I simply can't fathom getting worked up over whether the host of a particular late-night show that I don't watch anyway shares my political views or not. This kind of thing isn't really isolated to the right (see for example the people who deeply care about the politics of the guy who oversees the company who makes their web browser), but it's weird no matter where it turns up. Politics shouldn't be this kind of all-encompassing lifestyle. If you're religious, "idolatry" is probably the right term, but even the secular among us ought to agree that there's something unhealthy about it.
Really the Mozilla guy shouldn't have been pilloried the way he was. Everyone that worked with him said he never brought his personal view to work. Was progressive in his employment practices and was never one thought to discriminate.

But with that said it didn't happen in a vacuum. The tech industry is dealing with some really deep problems when it comes to it's institutional treatment of women and minorities. This guy ended up the punching bag for it.

 
Colts Win said:
TheIronSheik said:
Colts Win said:
Why does Rush and his followers on here keep complaining about his liberal biases? His over the top Republican character was just that a character. He's said in interviews out of character that he's a libertarian. Rush should love that. But he understands his no nothing audience of red meat eaters will fall for anything.
Spelling police got me. Always know you're right when that's their only response.
I'm not a Rush fan at all. And it has nothing to do about you being right or wrong.

The Golden Rule of the Internet is if you're going to call out someone for being dumb, don't misspell words while doing it.
Colts Win said:
TheIronSheik said:
Colts Win said:
Why does Rush and his followers on here keep complaining about his liberal biases? His over the top Republican character was just that a character. He's said in interviews out of character that he's a libertarian. Rush should love that. But he understands his no nothing audience of red meat eaters will fall for anything.
Spelling police got me. Always know you're right when that's their only response.
I'm not a Rush fan at all. And it has nothing to do about you being right or wrong.

The Golden Rule of the Internet is if you're going to call out someone for being dumb, don't misspell words while doing it.
I wouldn't want to admit I believe that nonsense either.

 
timschochet said:
Maurile Tremblay said:
How does being pro-Democrat impugn the values of hard work, charity for your neighbor, respect for other people (especially veterans), raising children through tough times, etc.?
The conservative mantra covers all those items:

1. Democrats impugn the values of hard work by transferring wealth from those who honestly earn it to undeserving lazy people who vote Democrat.

2. Democrats impugn charity by attacking churches (the source of most charity) and by trying to replace voluntary charity with government programs.

3. Democrats show no respect for veterans because they are generally anti-military and always willing to criticize rather than defend our military services.

4. Democrats support indoctrinating our children, moving them away from morality by teaching them that pre-marital sex is OK, homosexuality is OK, God does not exist, etc.
1. "From each according to his ability" relies on hard work. Hard work is a built-in part of the commie ethos.

2. I think Democrats like the charitable activities of churches. They just dislike the religious activities. (Except for the 90% of Democrats who are themselves religious, of course.)

3. "Criticism is a sign of respect." -- Winston Churchill

4. As opposed to indoctrinating our children by teaching them that premarital sex and homosexuality are wrong, and that God does exist? I think conservatives would be forced to agree that indoctrinating children is a very important part of raising them. They may disagree about the exact form that the indoctrination should take, but... details, details.

 
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Colts Win said:
Why does Rush and his followers on here keep complaining about his liberal biases? His over the top Republican character was just that a character. He's said in interviews out of character that he's a libertarian. Rush should love that. But he understands his know nothing audience of red meat eaters will fall for anything.
because those biases amount to billions in free political advertising for democratic politicians and liberal policies
That's the point. It's a TV character. You think if Isaac the bartender from love boat got the job he'd just mix drinks all show long? And you better clean up your capitalization and punctuation before sheik see's it.

 
Colts Win said:
Why does Rush and his followers on here keep complaining about his liberal biases? His over the top Republican character was just that a character. He's said in interviews out of character that he's a libertarian. Rush should love that. But he understands his know nothing audience of red meat eaters will fall for anything.
because those biases amount to billions in free political advertising for democratic politicians and liberal policies
That's the point. It's a TV character. You think if Isaac the bartender from love boat got the job he'd just mix drinks all show long? And you better clean up your capitalization and punctuation before sheik see's it.
That sounds like a better show than many currently gracing the airwaves.

 
Colts Win said:
TheIronSheik said:
Colts Win said:
Why does Rush and his followers on here keep complaining about his liberal biases? His over the top Republican character was just that a character. He's said in interviews out of character that he's a libertarian. Rush should love that. But he understands his no nothing audience of red meat eaters will fall for anything.
Spelling police got me. Always know you're right when that's their only response.
I'm not a Rush fan at all. And it has nothing to do about you being right or wrong.

The Golden Rule of the Internet is if you're going to call out someone for being dumb, don't misspell words while doing it.
I wouldn't want to admit I believe that nonsense either.
:confused:

 
Colts Win said:
Why does Rush and his followers on here keep complaining about his liberal biases? His over the top Republican character was just that a character. He's said in interviews out of character that he's a libertarian. Rush should love that. But he understands his know nothing audience of red meat eaters will fall for anything.
because those biases amount to billions in free political advertising for democratic politicians and liberal policies
That's the point. It's a TV character. You think if Isaac the bartender from love boat got the job he'd just mix drinks all show long? And you better clean up your capitalization and punctuation before sheik see's it.
No apostrophe needed.

 
timschochet said:
Scoresman said:
timschochet said:
Maurile Tremblay said:
TheIronSheik said:
Maurile Tremblay said:
Jayrod said:
Heartland values are actually centered around hard work, charity for your neighbor and respect for other people, especially those who have earned it by fighting in wars, raising children through tough times and making this the strongest nation on earth (aka "old farts").
Can you explain, on behalf of Rush Limbaugh, how hiring Stephen Colbert is declaring war on any of those things?

Or do you agree that Limbaugh is a dolt?
I think Rush is an idiot. But I understand his point.

He, of course, is making it by using the most inflammatory speech possible to get reactions, but his point is valid, to an extent.

SNL cast members have been very pro Democrat over the past decades. Two members are now late night talk show hosts. And Colbert is coming from a show that is very pro Democrat and mocking of the GOP. All he's saying is that late night is now dominated by these people.

I don't really care. I like all of the late night hosts. I do prefer my comedy from talk shows to try and make fun of both sides, though.
Your response would make sense if I had quoted ZJilla's post #204, because being pro-Democrat usually means being against racism, etc.

But I don't think it makes sense given that I quoted Jayrod's post. How does being pro-Democrat impugn the values of hard work, charity for your neighbor, respect for other people (especially veterans), raising children through tough times, etc.?
The conservative mantra covers all those items:

1. Democrats impugn the values of hard work by transferring wealth from those who honestly earn it to undeserving lazy people who vote Democrat.

2. Democrats impugn charity by attacking churches (the source of most charity) and by trying to replace voluntary charity with government programs.

3. Democrats show no respect for veterans because they are generally anti-military and always willing to criticize rather than defend our military services.

4. Democrats support indoctrinating our children, moving them away from morality by teaching them that pre-marital sex is OK, homosexuality is OK, God does not exist, etc.
Except all of those are wrong.
What does that have to do with it?
The question was about how being pro-Democrat does or does not impugn values. You gave a reply stating very hyperbolic or outright incorrect assumptions of Democrats which does nothing to answer the question.
What I wrote is what many conservatives believe. It's what Rush tells them on a daily basis.

 
Colts Win said:
Why does Rush and his followers on here keep complaining about his liberal biases? His over the top Republican character was just that a character. He's said in interviews out of character that he's a libertarian. Rush should love that. But he understands his know nothing audience of red meat eaters will fall for anything.
because those biases amount to billions in free political advertising for democratic politicians and liberal policies
That's the point. It's a TV character. You think if Isaac the bartender from love boat got the job he'd just mix drinks all show long? And you better clean up your capitalization and punctuation before sheik see's it.
Not sure what you are saying here.....

 
Colts Win said:
Why does Rush and his followers on here keep complaining about his liberal biases? His over the top Republican character was just that a character. He's said in interviews out of character that he's a libertarian. Rush should love that. But he understands his know nothing audience of red meat eaters will fall for anything.
because those biases amount to billions in free political advertising for democratic politicians and liberal policies
That's the point. It's a TV character. You think if Isaac the bartender from love boat got the job he'd just mix drinks all show long? And you better clean up your capitalization and punctuation before sheik see's it.
No apostrophe needed.
:lmao:

 
I'm getting more and more fed up with whatever the right wing of the GOP is these days. In fact I'm ****** off at some of what I have to deal with and this stuff is nucking futs.
:goodposting:

I simply can't fathom getting worked up over whether the host of a particular late-night show that I don't watch anyway shares my political views or not. This kind of thing isn't really isolated to the right (see for example the people who deeply care about the politics of the guy who oversees the company who makes their web browser), but it's weird no matter where it turns up. Politics shouldn't be this kind of all-encompassing lifestyle. If you're religious, "idolatry" is probably the right term, but even the secular among us ought to agree that there's something unhealthy about it.
War is unhealthy too, but if somebody has a battalion of tanks headed your way, you either take up defense or allow the opposing force to burn your house down and kill your family....

 
This is the great paradox. Conservatives who attempt to be funny and tell actual jokes are painfully unfunny. (See Miller, Dennis). Conservatives who worry about culture wars and attacks on "Heartland Values" are unintentionally hilarious.

 
I'm getting more and more fed up with whatever the right wing of the GOP is these days. In fact I'm ****** off at some of what I have to deal with and this stuff is nucking futs.
:goodposting:

I simply can't fathom getting worked up over whether the host of a particular late-night show that I don't watch anyway shares my political views or not. This kind of thing isn't really isolated to the right (see for example the people who deeply care about the politics of the guy who oversees the company who makes their web browser), but it's weird no matter where it turns up. Politics shouldn't be this kind of all-encompassing lifestyle. If you're religious, "idolatry" is probably the right term, but even the secular among us ought to agree that there's something unhealthy about it.
War is unhealthy too, but if somebody has a battalion of tanks headed your way, you either take up defense or allow the opposing force to burn your house down and kill your family....
this is part of the problem...the govt has so much power that politics as a tool to swing things your way becomes its own industry. It's beyond deciding what is just, but helping to determine the rationing and apportionment of resources...money, industry, clean air, healthcare, carbon emissions....

 
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This is the great paradox. Conservatives who attempt to be funny and tell actual jokes are painfully unfunny. (See Miller, Dennis). Conservatives who worry about culture wars and attacks on "Heartland Values" are unintentionally hilarious.
Has anyone ever done an unintentionally funny show on purpose? I'm envisioning a show hosted by Victoria Jackson, featuring Kirk Cameron, maybe Pat Boone, maybe John Rocker, and so on.

Don't tell them to try to be funny. Tell them to offer their serious insights . . . and watch the hilarity ensue.

I don't know how long it would take them to realize that the show was a comedy, but it might be even funnier when they do.

 
This is the great paradox. Conservatives who attempt to be funny and tell actual jokes are painfully unfunny. (See Miller, Dennis). Conservatives who worry about culture wars and attacks on "Heartland Values" are unintentionally hilarious.
Has anyone ever done an unintentionally funny show on purpose? I'm envisioning a show hosted by Victoria Jackson, featuring Kirk Cameron, maybe Pat Boone, maybe John Rocker, and so on.

Don't tell them to try to be funny. Tell them to offer their serious insights . . . and watch the hilarity ensue.

I don't know how long it would take them to realize that the show was a comedy, but it might be even funnier when they do.
Diabolical and brilliant in it's simplicity.

 
This is the great paradox. Conservatives who attempt to be funny and tell actual jokes are painfully unfunny. (See Miller, Dennis). Conservatives who worry about culture wars and attacks on "Heartland Values" are unintentionally hilarious.
I don't think this is necessarily a paradox, at least the first part. People are born funny but they have to hone their craft as comedians for years. Nightclubs are still the incubators of professional stand-ups and they tend to skew toward a more urban liberal clientele. I don't think the religious right goes to a lot of clubs except to protest outside of them occasionally. There are some comedians like the Blue Collar comedy tour guys who have come up through the clubs and managed to build enough of an audience of like minded people to be very successful. There are also the handful of guys like Miller who made a political transformation mid-career either because of some life-changing event or simply because they got rich.

 
This is the great paradox. Conservatives who attempt to be funny and tell actual jokes are painfully unfunny. (See Miller, Dennis). Conservatives who worry about culture wars and attacks on "Heartland Values" are unintentionally hilarious.
Has anyone ever done an unintentionally funny show on purpose? I'm envisioning a show hosted by Victoria Jackson, featuring Kirk Cameron, maybe Pat Boone, maybe John Rocker, and so on.

Don't tell them to try to be funny. Tell them to offer their serious insights . . . and watch the hilarity ensue.

I don't know how long it would take them to realize that the show was a comedy, but it might be even funnier when they do.
It has been done. It's called Fox News

 
I believe Colbert is a natural smart-###, which makes him great for the spot even if he doesn't bring all the Report schtick. Letterman is also a natural smart-###.

 
Missed this when it happened...

Later, he took questions from the California Democrat Judy Chu. She asked him why he was interested in the issue of migrant labor. Here, in a telling moment, he paused, patted the back of his head with his hand, and looked away for a moment, before responding, in obvious seriousness: “I like talking about people who don’t have any power. And it seemed like one of the least powerful people in the United States are migrant workers who come do our work but don’t have any rights as a result.”
 
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Missed this when it happened...

Later, he took questions from the California Democrat Judy Chu. She asked him why he was interested in the issue of migrant labor. Here, in a telling moment, he paused, patted the back of his head with his hand, and looked away for a moment, before responding, in obvious seriousness: “I like talking about people who don’t have any power. And it seemed like one of the least powerful people in the United States are migrant workers who come do our work but don’t have any rights as a result.”
That was a great moment. :thumbup:

 
This is the great paradox. Conservatives who attempt to be funny and tell actual jokes are painfully unfunny. (See Miller, Dennis). Conservatives who worry about culture wars and attacks on "Heartland Values" are unintentionally hilarious.
Has anyone ever done an unintentionally funny show on purpose? I'm envisioning a show hosted by Victoria Jackson, featuring Kirk Cameron, maybe Pat Boone, maybe John Rocker, and so on.

Don't tell them to try to be funny. Tell them to offer their serious insights . . . and watch the hilarity ensue.

I don't know how long it would take them to realize that the show was a comedy, but it might be even funnier when they do.
It has been done. It's called Fox News
And reality tv.

 
I know Ferguson has his fans and I enjoy his show when I tune in but I don't think he was ever seriously in contention for Dave's slot.

 
Why does Rush and his followers on here keep complaining about his liberal biases? His over the top Republican character was just that a character. He's said in interviews out of character that he's a libertarian. Rush should love that. But he understands his know nothing audience of red meat eaters will fall for anything.
because those biases amount to billions in free political advertising for democratic politicians and liberal policies
That's the point. It's a TV character. You think if Isaac the bartender from love boat got the job he'd just mix drinks all show long? And you better clean up your capitalization and punctuation before sheik see's it.
No apostrophe needed.
:lmao:
:lol:

 

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