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[Banger]

A question I don't know the answer to:

Has any player ever fumbled his career away? Meaning, can anyone think of a guy that had the talent but had his chance taken away by fumbling?

I was thinking this earlier. Fumbling will kill the career of a player with mediocre talent. For those players, being "safe" is their best attribute.

We can think of tons of RB's who have fixed their fumbling problems.

Can we think of any guy considered to be a blue chip kind of talent, who literally just couldn't get his fumbles under control? I can't.

Let's not lose perspective here. Wilson isn't the first guy to fumble twice in a game. He only had one all last year. Fumbling in both years' week 1 games looks worse than it really is.

What's different is Coughlin's handling of the situation compared to other RB's on other teams. If there were practice foibles that were creating a back story to explain Coughlin's stern reaction, don't you think it would have come out from the beat writers and camp observers during the preseason?

But it's as if Coughlin either can't stand the guy or has decided that tough, tough love is the best way to handle him. You just wonder if their two personalities mean it's the latter for Coughlin but looks like the former to Wilson.

DeAngelo Williams put the ball on the ground twice yesterday, lost one, and nobody is talking about it....

DeAngelo is a veteran and Wilson has proven nothing...apples and oranges. It also depends on the coaching staff and old man Coughlin is about as tough as they come.

 

[Banger]

Sounds like Coughlin is sticking with Wilson. "We need him". "We will get this right, even if he has to carry around two footballs".

The Brown injury has saved him, otherwise they would mothball him again like they did last year.

 

[ebsteelers]

you hear that sound?

that was the band wagon crashing last night.

the one good thing is there is no one in the backfield currently with brown being hurt that is nearly as good as him. so he will be the starter next week.. but if he fumbles next week.. this train will go completely off the tracks

or until they bring in a Hightower/McGahee/Wells.....I would expect them to add someone this week. Wilson needs to prove himself and they just can't risk the season in blind faith that he will improve.

I think they bring in McGahee. more of hunch then anything else

 

[jurb26]

A question I don't know the answer to:

Has any player ever fumbled his career away? Meaning, can anyone think of a guy that had the talent but had his chance taken away by fumbling?

I was thinking this earlier. Fumbling will kill the career of a player with mediocre talent. For those players, being "safe" is their best attribute.

We can think of tons of RB's who have fixed their fumbling problems.

Can we think of any guy considered to be a blue chip kind of talent, who literally just couldn't get his fumbles under control? I can't.

Let's not lose perspective here. Wilson isn't the first guy to fumble twice in a game. He only had one all last year. Fumbling in both years' week 1 games looks worse than it really is.

What's different is Coughlin's handling of the situation compared to other RB's on other teams. If there were practice foibles that were creating a back story to explain Coughlin's stern reaction, don't you think it would have come out from the beat writers and camp observers during the preseason?

But it's as if Coughlin either can't stand the guy or has decided that tough, tough love is the best way to handle him. You just wonder if their two personalities mean it's the latter for Coughlin but looks like the former to Wilson.

DeAngelo Williams put the ball on the ground twice yesterday, lost one, and nobody is talking about it....

DeAngelo is a veteran and Wilson has proven nothing...apples and oranges. It also depends on the coaching staff and old man Coughlin is about as tough as they come.

That and I don't recall Williams whiffing on several blocks in pass protection. This isn't ONLY about fumbling.

 

[Rick James]

Brown scored more points than Wilson yesterday. Kinda funny. Not in a ha-ha way, but more like "wtf may as well laugh about it" kind of way.

 

[Avery]

A few random thoughts from a Giants fan this morning on Wilson, FWIW:

A lot of people are focussing on the fumbles. They were big reason but not the entire reason why Wilson was benched. He also almost got Eli killed at least once that I saw in pass blocking.

As a runner Wilson is not just a fast guy with nothing else to offer as a RB, as many are now saying. He cuts well and finishes off his runs strong.

I'm not (generally) a conspiracy theorist, but there may be more going on here then we see and know. Today's performance was no doubt a "benchable" performance but looking beyond the vacuum of today, this is not just a this year thing, but Coughlin seemed to handle him differently last year as well. Going into the season he was supposed to be a big part of the running game. he fumbled once and was essentially benched for the next 10 games. When he finally played again late in the year and scored a TD, he took tons of heat from the team and the coach for doing a back flip and was benched again.

 

[Mikejay]

A question I don't know the answer to:

Has any player ever fumbled his career away? Meaning, can anyone think of a guy that had the talent but had his chance taken away by fumbling?

I was thinking this earlier. Fumbling will kill the career of a player with mediocre talent. For those players, being "safe" is their best attribute.

We can think of tons of RB's who have fixed their fumbling problems.

Can we think of any guy considered to be a blue chip kind of talent, who literally just couldn't get his fumbles under control? I can't.

Let's not lose perspective here. Wilson isn't the first guy to fumble twice in a game. He only had one all last year. Fumbling in both years' week 1 games looks worse than it really is.

What's different is Coughlin's handling of the situation compared to other RB's on other teams. If there were practice foibles that were creating a back story to explain Coughlin's stern reaction, don't you think it would have come out from the beat writers and camp observers during the preseason?

But it's as if Coughlin either can't stand the guy or has decided that tough, tough love is the best way to handle him. You just wonder if their two personalities mean it's the latter for Coughlin but looks like the former to Wilson.

I don't think its only Coughlin. I think most coaches would have benched a young RB with two fumbles and a big missed block against a division rival in a game that was still very winnable. Its not like he was tearing it up otherwise - he did almost nothing positive.

 

[monk]

How can a player lose everything in just one game.

Unreal...

What a disaster for Wilson. He'll get chances to atone, but have to wonder if he will mentally overcome this, especially knowing Coughlin is his coach.

The thing about this that doesn't make sense to me is that everything this offseason has been positive. And it's not like no RB has ever fumbled twice in a game before or missed a block.

This should be a situation where you shrug it off and say he's a young talented back who's just going through some growing pains.

But there's some kind of Coughlin vs. Wilson dynamic going on here. You just wonder why Coughlin thinks this is the way to handle Wilson. Did he not like the draft pick last year or something?

It hasn't all been positive. Coughlin had issues with the pass protection in the pre-season, and Wilson did it again today.

Coughlin's job is to win games, and he feels better doing that with men he can trust. He doesn't trust Wilson, and I think we can all see why.

That's overstating it a bit. There were comments that he still wasn't perfect but there were also comments that he was doing better. Not to mention that he looked fine in preseason.

And riddle me this: if Coughlin was so concerned about it heading into the game, why was Wilson trusted with it in this game? He used Scott on 3rd's and in passing situations after he benched Wilson, so why wasn't he deferring to Scott over Wilson all along if there was serious concern about Wilson?

What we have is a promising player that had a bad game. What normally happens to a promising player who has a bad game? They get another shot. Even if your coach is Tom Coughlin you get another chance. But if you're David Wilson and your coach is Tom Coughlin, you get treated like a pariah. That's what is weird here. It's as if there's a zero tolerance policy for Wilson for some reason for which we aren't informed.

One of the things about Wilson even pre-draft is that he's a high strung, emotional guy. I start to wonder if it's just a bad combination of personalities. I almost get the feeling that Coughlin thinks he has to break Wilson down before he can rebuild him - like some exaggerated movie charicature of an overzealous drill instructor.

because Andre Brown broke his leg last week. They didn't even IR him for the season. I'm sure they were aware of their situation

If Wilson was so suspect going into the game, why wasn't Scott already in that role BEFORE Wilson fumbled? Scott certainly had that role after Wilson fumbled and went to the bench.

I'm not sure why you are so surprised about Wilson's self-inflicted situation but you have to to get over it.

I'm a huge Giant fan and supporter of Wilson ... I even uncharacteristically drafted Wilson in the 2nd round (I never draft Giants for this reason)

His game yesterday was not bad ... it was disastrous!!!!!

I would understand if they benched him for the entire season ...it was that bad!

There is a slight chance that Coughlin and the team will support Wilson and give him a final opportunity to redeem himself but the the reality is ... They are going to bring in a veteran back this week who will likely become their primary back, because they don't have another capable back.

Scott is not the answer ... he was nearly cut this preseason and he has issues of his own.

 

[ShaHBucks]

Half of this thread is about a rookie getting bench ONE GAME for fumbling early. I don't understand this at all. If you watch the Tampa game(Wk 2) he was still being utilized EARLY in the game. The 1st possession Wilson lines up in a empty backfield and drops a easy pass for crying out loud. The second possesion he get 2 carries for 5 yards. Andre Brown was the primary back on the first TD drive that went close to 80 yards. "Don't quote me on this," but he ran for at least half of those 80 yards. Wilson's first two games he had 5 carries for 10 yards and two drops! That's why Wilson was benched! It had little to do with just ONE fumble. Brown was more effective as the Bradshaw replacement. Then Brown goes and looks like the greatest RB ever vs Car the next week. Vs the Eagles Wilson was still dropping passes. I know it drives you guys crazy, but it's true. I like Wilson as a prospect. I think there is a chance he reaches an elite status in the NFL. Right now the hype is not warrented. He was awful as a rookie, outside of 1-3 runs in blowouts that skews his ypc to an "elite" status on a small sample size. Andre Brown was better then him. That's not hard to say.

Whatever you do ... Do Not! I repeat Do Not!!! Look at these links. I will only make it hurt that much more.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uviR8HjLDxkhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1bO123KOEM

If just spent time to say what happened in a actual game I watch. why would I go watch a highlight clip after that? That's the problem, you're watching highlights.

I'll try to be nice to you when bumping this thread all season. I'm not sure others will be as kind. Remember, you reap what you sew...

Take it easy on me please

 

[⚡DEADHEAD⚡]

Here's hoping Coughlin hits the reset button and decides it's a 15 game season. Wilson was awful but from what I've read, many Giants played poorly.

Coughlin is a solid leader, although not one for all. He knows how he acts today and tomorrow may have a profound impact on next week and, perhaps, the rest of the season.

 

[monk]

you hear that sound?

that was the band wagon crashing last night.

the one good thing is there is no one in the backfield currently with brown being hurt that is nearly as good as him. so he will be the starter next week.. but if he fumbles next week.. this train will go completely off the tracks

or until they bring in a Hightower/McGahee/Wells.....I would expect them to add someone this week. Wilson needs to prove himself and they just can't risk the season in blind faith that he will improve.

I think they bring in McGahee. more of hunch then anything else

I think McGhee would be the perfect back to mentor Wilson.

Great pass protector and that rubbed off on Knowshon in Denver

 

[Concept Coop]

Who is the FA add? Beanie, Willis, Hightower?

I personally expect Wilson to start next week, but the #2 will have value, especially with another fumble or missed block.

 

[ShaHBucks]

Scott is not the answer ... he was nearly cut this preseason and he has issues of his own.

You can put me down as being interested in Cox and Scott. I already had a eye on them when Brown went down. They don't have to be great. They could simply be respectable and have good value.

 

[ShaHBucks]

Who is the FA add? Beanie, Willis, Hightower?

I personally expect Wilson to start next week, but the #2 will have value, especially with another fumble or missed block.

I don't think the will look outside just yet. See what Cox/Scott can do in a committee with Wilson first.

 

[SameSongNDance]

Giants coach Tom Coughlin was noncommittal when asked if David Wilson will start in Week 2.
Wilson was benched in the second half of Sunday night's game after losing two fumbles and struggling in pass protection. "Give us a little time to work on this thing. He's still very much in our thoughts. He's got to play." Coughlin said. "He's a very talented young man but you just can't do that. Every time they touch the ball you're going to turn it over? The plays looked like they were over to me." It sounds like Coughlin will give Wilson another chance, possibly as soon as Week 2. He knows they can't win with Da'Rel Scott playing every down. "We will get [Wilson] right even if he has to run around the field with two balls," the coach added. "We need him!" Andre Brown (leg) isn't eligible to return until Week 10.

Looks like a great buy-low target IMO.

 

[ShaHBucks]

Giants coach Tom Coughlin was noncommittal when asked if David Wilson will start in Week 2.

Wilson was benched in the second half of Sunday night's game after losing two fumbles and struggling in pass protection. "Give us a little time to work on this thing. He's still very much in our thoughts. He's got to play." Coughlin said. "He's a very talented young man but you just can't do that. Every time they touch the ball you're going to turn it over? The plays looked like they were over to me." It sounds like Coughlin will give Wilson another chance, possibly as soon as Week 2. He knows they can't win with Da'Rel Scott playing every down. "We will get [Wilson] right even if he has to run around the field with two balls," the coach added. "We need him!" Andre Brown (leg) isn't eligible to return until Week 10.

Looks like a great buy-low target IMO.

Looks like a sell-low too

 

[Banger]

Who is the FA add? Beanie, Willis, Hightower?

I personally expect Wilson to start next week, but the #2 will have value, especially with another fumble or missed block.

I don't think the will look outside just yet. See what Cox/Scott can do in a committee with Wilson first.

but they have zero experience. They need someone on the roster with more than 50 career carries. They thought that Brown was their vet but that obviously didn't work out. From a risk POV, it makes no sense to me to gamble on guys with no track record when you can bring in a vet off the street where you know what you will get.

 

[Concept Coop]

Who is the FA add? Beanie, Willis, Hightower?

I personally expect Wilson to start next week, but the #2 will have value, especially with another fumble or missed block.

I don't think the will look outside just yet. See what Cox/Scott can do in a committee with Wilson first.

Don't they have to, even if they don't plan to play said outside option? If Willis (or x, or y, or z) is their guy, they can't sit on their hands. I do expect a pickup, even if never matters, fantasy wise.

 

[ShaHBucks]

Who is the FA add? Beanie, Willis, Hightower?

I personally expect Wilson to start next week, but the #2 will have value, especially with another fumble or missed block.

I don't think the will look outside just yet. See what Cox/Scott can do in a committee with Wilson first.

but they have zero experience. They need someone on the roster with more than 50 career carries. They thought that Brown was their vet but that obviously didn't work out. From a risk POV, it makes no sense to me to gamble on guys with no track record when you can bring in a vet off the street where you know what you will get.

I'm just assuming management have already done their due diligence. Scott and Cox are not getting paid for nothing. Scott didn't embarrass himself lastnight and immediatly signing a vet would kill whatever confidence Wilson has left.

 

[T with T]

Why do some people have a hard time separating fantasy from reality?

New here?

People do it every year, hype players like Wilson and Miller because the media does.

If you can't see what Wilson and Miller are lacking you are not football people.

Neither can block one little bit, while Wilson cannot hold on to the ball or make things happen,

Ooof. Too bad, because you were doing so well.

If you don't think Wilson can 'make things happen', you haven't been paying attention.

wilson can't make things happen???? your a moron if you actually think that. Ok he had a bad game yes we all understand that but if you think Darel scott can make things happen you are mistaken. Wilson is a great runner and had a bad week he will get it right. I believe still give the guy a break week 1 guppies....

 

[Yenrub]

A few random thoughts from a Giants fan this morning on Wilson, FWIW:

A lot of people are focussing on the fumbles. They were big reason but not the entire reason why Wilson was benched. He also almost got Eli killed at least once that I saw in pass blocking.

As a runner Wilson is not just a fast guy with nothing else to offer as a RB, as many are now saying. He cuts well and finishes off his runs strong.

I'm not (generally) a conspiracy theorist, but there may be more going on here then we see and know. Today's performance was no doubt a "benchable" performance but looking beyond the vacuum of today, this is not just a this year thing, but Coughlin seemed to handle him differently last year as well. Going into the season he was supposed to be a big part of the running game. he fumbled once and was essentially benched for the next 10 games. When he finally played again late in the year and scored a TD, he took tons of heat from the team and the coach for doing a back flip and was benched again.

This missed block was huge and it was just the type of missed blocked that Coughlin referenced earlier in the preseason (and in this thread) ....lunging at a defenders feet instead of trying to get into the defenders body

 

[T with T]

Coughlin treats Wilson like he raped his daughter. Im a conspiracy guy myself and I kind of agree with what the poster said a few up, what's goin on over there, maybe more then we know??????? Coughlin just doesn't like Wilson man I tell ya.... guy is clearly best talent on team had a bad start and they yank him quick....

 

[Concept Coop]

Coughlin treats Wilson like he raped his daughter. Im a conspiracy guy myself and I kind of agree with what the poster said a few up, what's goin on over there, maybe more then we know??????? Coughlin just doesn't like Wilson man I tell ya.... guy is clearly best talent on team had a bad start and they yank him quick....

They didn't yank him quick. They acted like the first fumble never happened. Then they kept him in after the blown protection. They didn't pull him until after the 2nd fumble was run back for a TD.

There is no conspiracy. Coughlin is old school and - right now - Wilson turns the ball over and gets his QB hit.

 

[Tony Jabroni]

Mcgahee coming in for a workout per Schefter.

 

[Concept Coop]

This missed block was huge and it was just the type of missed blocked that Coughlin referenced earlier in the preseason (and in this thread) ....lunging at a defenders feet instead of trying to get into the defenders body

Exactly. It would be one thing if he got ran over, or forgot where to be. But he was told - I am assuming more often than we know - that he needs to man up and take a hit for the team. He did the opposite and it got the 100 million dollar QB hit. Coughlin knows Eli is his season. He's not going to risk that to bring a RB along.

 

[Khy]

Coughlin treats Wilson like he raped his daughter. Im a conspiracy guy myself and I kind of agree with what the poster said a few up, what's goin on over there, maybe more then we know??????? Coughlin just doesn't like Wilson man I tell ya.... guy is clearly best talent on team had a bad start and they yank him quick....

They didn't yank him quick... after the first fumble they put him right back out there and gave him 3 runs in a row in which he performed well with. He then 'blew' a block... really there wasn't much even Bradshaw could have done on that block. The guy came off the edge like he was shot out of a cannon by the time Wilson was done with the fake off play action the guy was already on top of him, there really was no time for the RB to square up and block.

Here's hoping Coughlin hits the reset button and decides it's a 15 game season. Wilson was awful but from what I've read, many Giants played poorly.

Coughlin is a solid leader, although not one for all. He knows how he acts today and tomorrow may have a profound impact on next week and, perhaps, the rest of the season.

He will, I'm not all that worried. Coughlin understands that they need Wilson. Wilson has the game 1 jitters out of his system now. This week in practice they're going to beat the crap out of him to practice some fumble drills. Then put him right back out there. They may sign a vet like Jacobs, Hightower or McGahee this week but it's just for a pass blocking job.

 

[Concept Coop]

Mcgahee coming in for a workout per Schefter.

Thanks for the heads up; I'll be putting in my bids for him.

 

[avoiding injuries]

When calling someone a moron, please use correct grammar. At least in that one sentence of your post.

 

[munygon2]

I still think he gets at least one more chance before resorting full-time to a backup. He didn't fumble anymore after week 1 of last season, he just needs some reps and get used to people tackling him and then I believe he'll be OK. Of course it's up all up to TC.

 

[Concept Coop]

He then 'blew' a block... really there wasn't much even Bradshaw could have done on that block. The guy came off the edge like he was shot out of a cannon by the time Wilson was done with the fake off play action the guy was already on top of him, there really was no time for the RB to square up and block.

I don't agree with this at all. He could have stayed high and gotten run over. He chose to go low as opposed to take a hit, as he did in the preseason and was scoulded for.

 

[Banger]

Coughlin treats Wilson like he raped his daughter. Im a conspiracy guy myself and I kind of agree with what the poster said a few up, what's goin on over there, maybe more then we know??????? Coughlin just doesn't like Wilson man I tell ya.... guy is clearly best talent on team had a bad start and they yank him quick....

Coughlin doesn't like guys that don't do things his way. He used to fine people for not being early to meetings (he still may).

I don't think Coughlin thought he could trust him last year due to pass protection and possibly ball security issues. They spent time in the offseason trying to train him up and make him the man but it looks like those same issues may be there. This isn't new as these were the issues he struggled with last year. This is a job and it's Wilsons job to understand what he's doing wrong and get it right and if he doesn't do it he's not going to be a workhorse back. This isn't on Coughlin, it's 100% on Wilson. He was a MAJOR reason they lost that game yesterday.

 

[Khy]

He then 'blew' a block... really there wasn't much even Bradshaw could have done on that block. The guy came off the edge like he was shot out of a cannon by the time Wilson was done with the fake off play action the guy was already on top of him, there really was no time for the RB to square up and block.

I don't agree with this at all. He could have stayed high and gotten run over. He chose to go low as opposed to take a hit, as he did in the preseason and was scoulded for.

If he stays high he gets rolled over, risks getting himself injured and Eli still gets blown up. By going low there's at least a small chance that he trips up the LB and Eli is able to slide out of it.

 

[Concept Coop]

I still think he gets at least one more chance before resorting full-time to a backup. He didn't fumble anymore after week 1 of last season, he just needs some reps and get used to people tackling him and then I believe he'll be OK. Of course it's up all up to TC.

I agree. He'll get another shot. He had better fix the issues and procude, or it might be his last this season. But he'll get another shot.

 

[Banger]

Mcgahee coming in for a workout per Schefter.

they put him on speed dial after last night. Pre-emptive pickup of the week if you have an empty roster spot.

 

[B-Deep]

Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet10m
Giants hosting RB workouts tomorrow... Among those slated to attend: Old friend Brandon Jacobs and ex-Bronco Willis McGahee.

 

[B-Deep]

I am not so sure on BJ

 

[Banger]

I am not so sure on BJ

seems like a waste. You want someone who can pass protect, catch a ball out of the backfield. He might be ok to fill in for Brown's goal line role but he's not a 3rd down back.

 

[Concept Coop]

If he stays high he gets rolled over, risks getting himself injured and Eli still gets blown up. By going low there's at least a small chance that he trips up the LB and Eli is able to slide out of it.

Tom Coughlin and I disagree. You risk sefl-inury to avoid a clean hit on the QB. Wilson has a habbit of blocking at the feet of defenders to avoid a hit. That doesn't work. His coach told him that it doesn't work. Hell, his coach told us that he told Wilson it doesn't work.

That's your opinion, but he's not playing for you. The guy he is playing for has been pretty clear about what he expects.

 

[ISUDESTROYERS]

A few random thoughts from a Giants fan this morning on Wilson, FWIW:

A lot of people are focussing on the fumbles. They were big reason but not the entire reason why Wilson was benched. He also almost got Eli killed at least once that I saw in pass blocking.

As a runner Wilson is not just a fast guy with nothing else to offer as a RB, as many are now saying. He cuts well and finishes off his runs strong.

I'm not (generally) a conspiracy theorist, but there may be more going on here then we see and know. Today's performance was no doubt a "benchable" performance but looking beyond the vacuum of today, this is not just a this year thing, but Coughlin seemed to handle him differently last year as well. Going into the season he was supposed to be a big part of the running game. he fumbled once and was essentially benched for the next 10 games. When he finally played again late in the year and scored a TD, he took tons of heat from the team and the coach for doing a back flip and was benched again.

This missed block was huge and it was just the type of missed blocked that Coughlin referenced earlier in the preseason (and in this thread) ....lunging at a defenders feet instead of trying to get into the defenders body

Coughlin's Response about David Wilson Coming Out of the Draft

This young man was attractive to us for many reasons. Obviously his speed, you have a 4.4 running back. You have a guy who’s the A.C.C. Player of the Year, 1,700 yards rushing, kickoff returns for a career over a thousand yards, 1,300-plus yards, caught the ball out of the backfield. Needs some work in some of the other areas. You know, pass protection and that kind of thing, as do a lot of these young guys. And also the question comes up about ball security and we’ll remind him of that right away. But I think every team has done that with him, and he’s very, very much aware of that. He has great energy when you speak to him. He is knowledgeable.

Bottom line is this: he had these issues (ie. fumbling and pass protection) in college and has had 2 Training Camps (and offseasons), and 1 entire Regular Season to get these issues honed in. What would you do [if you would Coughlin] and you thoroughly know his issues and tendancies....and he continues to show the same pattern over and over again. I don't blame Coughlin one bit....and I'm a Wilson owner.

P.S. It's not looking good for Wilson folks....he better turn this thing around really quick or the dude is done. Its not like there weren't plenty of warning signs here....

 

[ShaHBucks]

If Brown didn't get hurt he my have been a top-10 back after this. Wilson is lucky

 

[Avery]

I am not so sure on BJ

seems like a waste. You want someone who can pass protect, catch a ball out of the backfield. He might be ok to fill in for Brown's goal line role but he's not a 3rd down back.

I guess people think Jacobs was or would be a good goalline back because he's big. Fact is, he just was never very good at short yardage.

 

[dewmass]

Mcgahee coming in for a workout per Schefter.

Was hoping they'd wait a day or two so I could sneak him and Wells onto the bottom of my rosters. Glad I didn't buy the hype on Wilson, Coughlin doesn't strike me as the kind of coach who will accept what happened yesterday and just risk his season on what he could put out there last night.

 

[SameSongNDance]

They're even working out McKnight. I wonder if they'd let me take a crack at it.

 

[massraider]

Coughlin may or may not have a problem with Wilson, but last night isn't proof of it.

What else could Wilson do last night to get himself benched??? He could have done more damage last night, I suppose. He could have turned around in pass pro, and knocked the ball out of Eli's hand. That would have been worse.

 

[ShaHBucks]

Espn says they are bringing in Jacobs too

 

[mphtrilogy]

i deserve this after drafting him last year as well...

 

[Mr. Know-It-All]

What is lost in all of this is that the Giants were still in that game DESPITE 6 turnovers - three of which go on their QB. If I were Dallas I would be very afraid that AT HOME it took 6 turnovers to beat an average looking Giants team. Yes Wilson is an easy scapegoat - yes he may have relegated himself to obscurity because it was on a national stage - but Coughlin is insane if he throws the baby out with the bathwater. That loss was in part due to the running game - but in the bigger picture Wilson is only part of the problem.

 

[Welshie]

Mortensen says McGahee is in fantastic shape. Wonder if he gets the nod over Jacobs and McKnight. Wouldn't be shocked to see McGahee as the starter by Week 3 if he can still play.

McKnight wouldn't be as much of a threat to Wilson.

Jacobs would be a situational back.

 

[Concept Coop]

What is lost in all of this is that the Giants were still in that game DESPITE 6 turnovers - three of which go on their QB. If I were Dallas I would be very afraid that AT HOME it took 6 turnovers to beat an average looking Giants team.

True, but the Cowboys gave up 2 Tds on blown plays, themselves. They don't show up as turnovers, but they were mistakes that led directly to points.

 

[jacobo_moses]

This is not a WDIS question. But what to do as Wilson owner question. I'm in a 24 team Dyn lg where I own D.Wilson,L.Miller and Ivory. (Yes I know I'm screwed) But what our other Fantasy owners doing that own Wilson? Should I be preventative and pickup W.McGahee?