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[Khy]

So all the non believers, at least one of whom is literally calling David Wilson believers clinically insane, based on ALL of us playing FANTASY football and comments made on a message board, are you really looking at that game on Sunday where he got injured very early on and saying, "See, I told you so?"

I would think the sane and logical would at least look at that as a wash based on injury and move on to next week. But no, the Wilson owners are insane, right?

This isn't a 6 carry sample size. We're 5 weeks in. He's done nothing. His best run was a 2 yard effort in which he was running for the sidelines.

The argument went from Wilson vs. Charles/Rice/Foster/McCoy, to Wilson vs. Jacobs/Scott.

The haters were told that this was the week - that they cut Scott becuase they trust Wilson and he's the guy. Even before the injury, that wasn't the case. It was a 50/50 split. If he can't demand 70% from Brandon Jacobs, I don't think he can demand 60% from Andre Brown.

He isn't trusted to block, catch the football, or protect the QB. And the one area in which we've been told he's 'elite' - he's done nothing more than FA level talents like Jacobs and Scott.

Can someone verify this? I'm looking at the play by play on NFL.com, and it shows that Wilson got the bulk of the touches before he went down. But on plays were Eli through a pass to someone other than Wilson, I can't derive from the play by play who was in at RB. And I skipped about the last 6 pages of this thread. Had a marathon weekend and didn't feel like catching up. This was probably already covered.

Sure, here you go. Once again, people quoting false stats to prove their point. This is a fun thread.

This isn't a 6 carry sample size. We're 5 weeks in. He's done nothing. His best run was a 2 yard effort in which he was running for the sidelines.

The argument went from Wilson vs. Charles/Rice/Foster/McCoy, to Wilson vs. Jacobs/Scott.

The haters were told that this was the week - that they cut Scott becuase they trust Wilson and he's the guy. Even before the injury, that wasn't the case. It was a 50/50 split. If he can't demand 70% from Brandon Jacobs, I don't think he can demand 60% from Andre Brown.

He isn't trusted to block, catch the football, or protect the QB. And the one area in which we've been told he's 'elite' - he's done nothing more than FA level talents like Jacobs and Scott.

Umm, false? There were a total of 14 offensive snaps in the game prior to Wilson's injury. He was on the field for 10 of those 14 snaps and saw 6 carries (here's a hint, they were featuring him).

So he saw... 71.42% of the snaps (seems demanding) and on the 14 offensive snaps they played he touched the ball 6 times and was targeted once in the passing game for a total of him being 50% of the offensive focus in the first quarter.

Once again, (shocking) someone spitting out numbers that they are simply making up. Please, if you're not going to actually watch the games or look up stats, stop commenting like you know what you're talking about.

He was on pace for about 24 carries in the game and being that the game remained close until the end probably would have realistically approached those kind of numbers.

The bold is what you're looking for...

 

[Concept Coop]

So all the non believers, at least one of whom is literally calling David Wilson believers clinically insane, based on ALL of us playing FANTASY football and comments made on a message board, are you really looking at that game on Sunday where he got injured very early on and saying, "See, I told you so?"

I would think the sane and logical would at least look at that as a wash based on injury and move on to next week. But no, the Wilson owners are insane, right?

This isn't a 6 carry sample size. We're 5 weeks in. He's done nothing. His best run was a 2 yard effort in which he was running for the sidelines.

The argument went from Wilson vs. Charles/Rice/Foster/McCoy, to Wilson vs. Jacobs/Scott.

The haters were told that this was the week - that they cut Scott becuase they trust Wilson and he's the guy. Even before the injury, that wasn't the case. It was a 50/50 split. If he can't demand 70% from Brandon Jacobs, I don't think he can demand 60% from Andre Brown.

He isn't trusted to block, catch the football, or protect the QB. And the one area in which we've been told he's 'elite' - he's done nothing more than FA level talents like Jacobs and Scott.

Umm, false? There were a total of 14 offensive snaps in the game prior to Wilson's injury. He was on the field for 10 of those 14 snaps and saw 6 carries (here's a hint, they were featuring him).

So he saw... 71.42% of the snaps (seems demanding) and on the 14 offensive snaps they played he touched the ball 6 times and was targeted once in the passing game for a total of him being 50% of the offensive focus in the first quarter.

Once again, (shocking) someone spitting out numbers that they are simply making up. Please, if you're not going to actually watch the games or look up stats, stop commenting like you know what you're talking about.

He was on pace for about 24 carries in the game and being that the game remained close until the end probably would have realistically approached those kind of numbers.

Holy sample size, Batman. Jacobs was the 3rd down back, as we were told he wouldn't be. There were two 3rd downs before Wilson's injury.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

So all the non believers, at least one of whom is literally calling David Wilson believers clinically insane, based on ALL of us playing FANTASY

football and comments made on a message board, are you really looking at that game on Sunday where he got injured very early on and saying, "See, I told you so?"

I would think the sane and logical would at least look at that as a wash based on injury and move on to next week. But no, the Wilson owners are insane, right?

No, it actually involves five straight weeks of not only Wilson, but also the Giants' other RBs and most importantly their offensive line, being not just bad, but basically being the absolute worst ground game, as a whole, in the entire NFL. Anyone who continues to start Wilson, with or without confidence, continuing to think "this is the

week" is pretty delusional.

As I posted above, prior to his injury... he was on

track for a "this is the week" type of play. He was seeing 70% of the snaps, was left in on passing downs and saw 6 carries of the football on 14 offensive snaps in the first quarter. He was on

pace to see 24 carries in the game against one of the worst defenses in the NFL. We know he's a back who often relies on the 'big play' but really, 4 of his 6 carries were really solid 4-5 yard carries.

The worst of which was the carry that should have been ruled a safety where he was wrapped up in the backfield as soon as he took the handoff.

To say ignore the fact that he was on pace for 70% of the work is foolish though.

I'm not the one ignoring stuff. They managed about 50 yards on the ground as a team against a brutally poor defensive front. Wilson can get 70% all year and it just won't matter when the team is running for 50 yards and .4 TDs total.

 

[Grahamburn]

The double backflip was badass. He showed off his elite talent with that right there.

 

[Concept Coop]

Sure, here you go. Once again, people quoting false stats to prove their point. This is a fun thread.

This is a fun thread. It's fun to read people compare David to Barry Sanders, Adrian Peterson, and CJ Spiller. It's fun to read people claim that Coughlin should be fired and is hurting his team by not playing Wilson. It's fun to read people suggest that Scott was cut to force Coughlin to play Wilson. It's fun to read Wilson is an elite NFL RB and talent, then watch him not show up week after week. It's fun to read people cry for Eli to be benched...you know - to be fair. It's fun to read threats of petitions. It's fun to read people talk about how Coughlin is hurting Wilson's confidence, and suggest how to better handle NFL personnel. And the most fun: reading that Barry Sanders doesn't make big, ankle breaking cuts, or stop on a dime. You know, like Adrian Peterson does.

This is a VERY FUN thread. And for that, I thank you.

 

[Buck Bradcanon]

Starting him Thursday with supreme confidence. Thinking 90 total yards, 4 catches, TD.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

Sure, here you go. Once again, people quoting false stats to prove their point. This is a fun thread.

This is a fun thread. It's fun to read people

compare David to Barry Sanders, Adrian Peterson, and CJ Spiller. It's fun to read people claim that Coughlin should be fired and is hurting his team by not playing Wilson. It's fun to read

people suggest that Scott was cut to force Coughlin to play Wilson. It's fun to read Wilson is an elite NFL RB and talent, then watch him not show up week after week. It's fun to read people

cry for Eli to be benched...you know - to be fair. It's fun to read threats of petitions. It's fun to read people talk about how Coughlin is hurting Wilson's confidence, and suggest how to better handle NFL personnel. And the most fun: reading that Barry Sanders doesn't make big, ankle breaking cuts, or stop on a dime. You know, like Adrian Peterson does.

This is a VERY FUN thread. And for that, I thank you.

You forgot poop. Otherwise,

 

[JFS171]

Sure, here you go. Once again, people quoting false stats to prove their point. This is a fun thread.

This is a fun thread. It's fun to read people

compare David to Barry Sanders, Adrian Peterson, and CJ Spiller. It's fun to read people claim that Coughlin should be fired and is hurting his team by not playing Wilson. It's fun to read

people suggest that Scott was cut to force Coughlin to play Wilson. It's fun to read Wilson is an elite NFL RB and talent, then watch him not show up week after week. It's fun to read people

cry for Eli to be benched...you know - to be fair. It's fun to read threats of petitions. It's fun to read people talk about how Coughlin is hurting Wilson's confidence, and suggest how to better handle NFL personnel. And the most fun: reading that Barry Sanders doesn't make big, ankle breaking cuts, or stop on a dime. You know, like Adrian Peterson does.

This is a VERY FUN thread. And for that, I thank you.

You forgot poop. Otherwise,

And Queer de Leon, or whatever it was...

 

[Ray]

These were Wilson's plays Sunday:

1-10-NYG 38 (14:01) 22-D.Wilson right guard to NYG 39 for 1 yard (28-E.Wolff, 58-T.Cole).

2-3-PHI 5 (11:44) (Shotgun) 22-D.Wilson right tackle for 5 yards, TOUCHDOWN.

6-A.Henery kicks 58 yards from PHI 35 to NYG 7. 22-D.Wilson to NYG 23 for 16 yards (53-N.Goode)

2-1-NYG 32 (6:12) 22-D.Wilson left tackle to NYG 36 for 4 yards (72-C.Thornton).
1-10-NYG 36 (5:30) 22-D.Wilson left end pushed ob at NYG 40 for 4 yards (95-M.Kendricks, 26-C.Williams)
2-3-PHI 32 (3:27) (Shotgun) 22-D.Wilson left end to PHI 27 for 5 yards (26-C.Williams).
2-25-PHI 42 (2:32) (Shotgun) 10-E.Manning pass incomplete deep left to 22-D.Wilson

1-10-NYG 5 08) 22-D.Wilson right guard to NYG 2 for -3 yards (72-C.Thornton).

Noteworthy bits:

- runs of 1, 5 (TD - ran out of field), 4, 4, 5, -3 (own 5 - backed up offense)
- deep target (play probably designed for him)
- nice punt return
- didn't see 1 YD first run of game - maybe his worst run?

 

[Khy]

So all the non believers, at least one of whom is literally calling David Wilson believers clinically insane, based on ALL of us playing FANTASY football and comments made on a message board, are you really looking at that game on Sunday where he got injured very early on and saying, "See, I told you so?"

I would think the sane and logical would at least look at that as a wash based on injury and move on to next week. But no, the Wilson owners are insane, right?

This isn't a 6 carry sample size. We're 5 weeks in. He's done nothing. His best run was a 2 yard effort in which he was running for the sidelines.

The argument went from Wilson vs. Charles/Rice/Foster/McCoy, to Wilson vs. Jacobs/Scott.

The haters were told that this was the week - that they cut Scott becuase they trust Wilson and he's the guy. Even before the injury, that wasn't the case. It was a 50/50 split. If he can't demand 70% from Brandon Jacobs, I don't think he can demand 60% from Andre Brown.

He isn't trusted to block, catch the football, or protect the QB. And the one area in which we've been told he's 'elite' - he's done nothing more than FA level talents like Jacobs and Scott.

Umm, false? There were a total of 14 offensive snaps in the game prior to Wilson's injury. He was on the field for 10 of those 14 snaps and saw 6 carries (here's a hint, they were featuring him).

So he saw... 71.42% of the snaps (seems demanding) and on the 14 offensive snaps they played he touched the ball 6 times and was targeted once in the passing game for a total of him being 50% of the offensive focus in the first quarter.

Once again, (shocking) someone spitting out numbers that they are simply making up. Please, if you're not going to actually watch the games or look up stats, stop commenting like you know what you're talking about.

He was on pace for about 24 carries in the game and being that the game remained close until the end probably would have realistically approached those kind of numbers.

Holy sample size, Batman. Jacobs was the 3rd down back, as we were told he wouldn't be. There were two 3rd downs before Wilson's injury.

Haha... I love how when you make up a stat line it's "Not the case, this was a 50/50 split the whole game anyway before the injury!". Then when I prove you to be blatantly pulling stats out of your ###... you go with "Holy sample size, Batman!" and completely ignore the fact that this entire thread has been you and a few others pulling stats from thin air and spitting them out as fact. Do you have a source for the bolded? Or is that just another assumption that you wish was right to prove your point?

I just don't get it... if I and most everyone else in this thread that supports Wilson is able to admit that we have yet to really see much from him because he hasn't had a real chance. Why can't you just admit the opposite? We have yet to see that he isn't elite just as much as we have yet to see that he is... I don't understand why that's such a hard compromise to make? We have no proof of EITHER side of this... all I'm doing at this stage is debunking your bs statistics on why Wilson sucks or why he's not getting playing time because they're simply ridiculous conclusions with no basis.

 

[Concept Coop]

So all the non believers, at least one of whom is literally calling David Wilson believers clinically insane, based on ALL of us playing FANTASY football and comments made on a message board, are you really looking at that game on Sunday where he got injured very early on and saying, "See, I told you so?"

I would think the sane and logical would at least look at that as a wash based on injury and move on to next week. But no, the Wilson owners are insane, right?

This isn't a 6 carry sample size. We're 5 weeks in. He's done nothing. His best run was a 2 yard effort in which he was running for the sidelines.

The argument went from Wilson vs. Charles/Rice/Foster/McCoy, to Wilson vs. Jacobs/Scott.

The haters were told that this was the week - that they cut Scott becuase they trust Wilson and he's the guy. Even before the injury, that wasn't the case. It was a 50/50 split. If he can't demand 70% from Brandon Jacobs, I don't think he can demand 60% from Andre Brown.

He isn't trusted to block, catch the football, or protect the QB. And the one area in which we've been told he's 'elite' - he's done nothing more than FA level talents like Jacobs and Scott.

Umm, false? There were a total of 14 offensive snaps in the game prior to Wilson's injury. He was on the field for 10 of those 14 snaps and saw 6 carries (here's a hint, they were featuring him).

So he saw... 71.42% of the snaps (seems demanding) and on the 14 offensive snaps they played he touched the ball 6 times and was targeted once in the passing game for a total of him being 50% of the offensive focus in the first quarter.

Once again, (shocking) someone spitting out numbers that they are simply making up. Please, if you're not going to actually watch the games or look up stats, stop commenting like you know what you're talking about.

He was on pace for about 24 carries in the game and being that the game remained close until the end probably would have realistically approached those kind of numbers.

Holy sample size, Batman. Jacobs was the 3rd down back, as we were told he wouldn't be. There were two 3rd downs before Wilson's injury.

Haha... I love how when you make up a stat line it's "Not the case, this was a 50/50 split the whole game anyway before the injury!". Then when I prove you to be blatantly pulling stats out of your ###... you go with "Holy sample size, Batman!" and completely ignore the fact that this entire thread has been you and a few others pulling stats from thin air and spitting them out as fact. Do you have a source for the bolded? Or is that just another assumption that you wish was right to prove your point?

I just don't get it... if I and most everyone else in this thread that supports Wilson is able to admit that we have yet to really see much from him because he hasn't had a real chance. Why can't you just admit the opposite? We have yet to see that he isn't elite just as much as we have yet to see that he is... I don't understand why that's such a hard compromise to make? We have no proof of EITHER side of this... all I'm doing at this stage is debunking your bs statistics on why Wilson sucks or why he's not getting playing time because they're simply ridiculous conclusions with no basis.

Anything you can cling to, eh, Khy? I don't have BS stats (like your BS 40 time). I'm sorry I used the term 50/50 when it wasn't 50/50, yet. My point was - we were told that they trusted Wilson and he was going to be the 3rd down back, etc. Jacobs was still very much part of the gameplan, getting snaps early, including 3rd down.

Don't turn this into a battle of technicalities. Wilson hasn't lived up to the hype - which you were a major part of - and you won't so much as say that MAYBE you were wrong about it. It's the o-line, it's the coach, it's me using "50/50", it's the haters saying XYZ, it's Barry Sanders not making 9 yard cuts...it's everything but you being wrong in saying he's elite (today) and would be a top 5 fantasy back. Everything and everyone else but you or your buddy, David Wilson.

 

[Khy]

So all the non believers, at least one of whom is literally calling David Wilson believers clinically insane, based on ALL of us playing FANTASY football and comments made on a message board, are you really looking at that game on Sunday where he got injured very early on and saying, "See, I told you so?"

I would think the sane and logical would at least look at that as a wash based on injury and move on to next week. But no, the Wilson owners are insane, right?

This isn't a 6 carry sample size. We're 5 weeks in. He's done nothing. His best run was a 2 yard effort in which he was running for the sidelines.

The argument went from Wilson vs. Charles/Rice/Foster/McCoy, to Wilson vs. Jacobs/Scott.

The haters were told that this was the week - that they cut Scott becuase they trust Wilson and he's the guy. Even before the injury, that wasn't the case. It was a 50/50 split. If he can't demand 70% from Brandon Jacobs, I don't think he can demand 60% from Andre Brown.

He isn't trusted to block, catch the football, or protect the QB. And the one area in which we've been told he's 'elite' - he's done nothing more than FA level talents like Jacobs and Scott.

Umm, false? There were a total of 14 offensive snaps in the game prior to Wilson's injury. He was on the field for 10 of those 14 snaps and saw 6 carries (here's a hint, they were featuring him).

So he saw... 71.42% of the snaps (seems demanding) and on the 14 offensive snaps they played he touched the ball 6 times and was targeted once in the passing game for a total of him being 50% of the offensive focus in the first quarter.

Once again, (shocking) someone spitting out numbers that they are simply making up. Please, if you're not going to actually watch the games or look up stats, stop commenting like you know what you're talking about.

He was on pace for about 24 carries in the game and being that the game remained close until the end probably would have realistically approached those kind of numbers.

Holy sample size, Batman. Jacobs was the 3rd down back, as we were told he wouldn't be. There were two 3rd downs before Wilson's injury.

Haha... I love how when you make up a stat line it's "Not the case, this was a 50/50 split the whole game anyway before the injury!". Then when I prove you to be blatantly pulling stats out of your ###... you go with "Holy sample size, Batman!" and completely ignore the fact that this entire thread has been you and a few others pulling stats from thin air and spitting them out as fact. Do you have a source for the bolded? Or is that just another assumption that you wish was right to prove your point?

I just don't get it... if I and most everyone else in this thread that supports Wilson is able to admit that we have yet to really see much from him because he hasn't had a real chance. Why can't you just admit the opposite? We have yet to see that he isn't elite just as much as we have yet to see that he is... I don't understand why that's such a hard compromise to make? We have no proof of EITHER side of this... all I'm doing at this stage is debunking your bs statistics on why Wilson sucks or why he's not getting playing time because they're simply ridiculous conclusions with no basis.

Anything you can cling to, eh, Khy? I don't have BS stats (like your BS 40 time). I'm sorry I used the term 50/50 when it wasn't 50/50, yet. My point was - we were told that they trusted Wilson and he was going to be the 3rd down back, etc. Jacobs was still very much part of the gameplan, getting snaps early, including 3rd down.

Don't turn this into a battle of technicalities. Wilson hasn't lived up to the hype - which you were a major part of - and you won't so much as say that MAYBE you were wrong about it. It's the o-line, it's the coach, it's me using "50/50", it's the haters saying XYZ, it's Barry Sanders not making 9 yard cuts...it's everything but you being wrong in saying he's elite (today) and would be a top 5 fantasy back. Everything and everyone else but you or your buddy, David Wilson.

Well no, you do have bs stats. You claimed 50/50 when it was more like 70/30. Which is a rather large difference. And Jacobs had 4 snaps in the first quarter to Wilson's 10. Big difference, Wilson was clearly being featured in the backfield prior to the injury. You can try and discount that but you'd be pretty wrong. Also I believe they split the two 3rd down attempts down the middle.

As for not admitting it? Yes I have... several times. I admitted while I'm not super concerned, I nor anyone at this point knows what Wilson will actually be. You can go all the way back to probably page 60 or so and see me saying just this... it's been readily ignored. People would rather focus on me making comparisons of Wilson to other players and saying "Hahahahaha you tard!" as if I'm somehow saying "Wilson is the next <insert HoF here>" which I've never once said. It has however been put into my mouth a ton in this thread. Since the get go my stance on Wilson has been "I see him as an elite talent. And think he has top 5 upside. But it's wait and see until he actually does that". I may have put more 'fact' behind my opinion on him as a player just from getting heated with the absolutely ridiculous arguments towards why he sucks and will never be good. But in the end, that's been my stance on him... or any player for that matter. Since carry one of this season. I'll never evaluate a player and say "This guy is going to be elite 100% no chance he fails" like you and a bunch of others keep thinking I am saying. I'm of the OPINION that David Wilson is an elite talent and given a better situation he'd be proving that in these past 5 weeks. I'm also of the opinion that you could slot any back that you think is "situation immune" into this Giants backfield and their production would be roughly the same.

You can claim that Barry, Peterson, McCoy, Charles, God would be able to run just fine in this backfield and that Wilson isn't elite because he can't. But lets face it, you have no proof for that at all... and every person on that list has a better offensive line than the Giants by leaps and bounds right now.

And the fact that we're even discussing this week as a thing that existed is beyond me. The kid got hurt in the first quarter, up till that point he had 6 carries on 14 total offensive snaps and he played on 10 of those 14. Things weren't trending for Jacobs to be a large part of the gameplan. They were trending for Wilson to be THE gameplan. To ignore that is like ignoring that 1+1 = 2.

 

[TheLurkerBelow]

I think it's fair to say that neither Wilson or T Rich have lived up to their expectations, either on the NFL field or in fantasy football despite being given increasing opportunities. I also think it's fair to say that it's way too early to call either of them busts. One of these days I'm going to post Lurker's Maxims of Fantasy Football. A key maxim is "Be patient with running backs." There are so many examples of runners coming into their own after starting poorly for a couple years. I can think of CJ Spiller and even Bilail Powell as very recent examples. (Note that I realize Powell isn't an exceptional talent, but it took him a few years to live up to what he can be, which is a solid performer).

 

[Coeur de Lion]

How is Richardson a valid comparison here? He's had 20 games of being fully featured and has looked like utter trash. He's a known quantity at this point. Wilson's next 20 touch game will be his first I believe.

 

[ShaHBucks]

I did notice something amazing about David Wilson this week. He is definitly elite and among the best RBs in the league... at doing backflips. Barry Sanders just handed the ball back to the ref like a church boy for crying out loud. What are you 12? I dated a former gymnast once. I got off on stretching her limbs to the limit when we were intimate. Just for fun I would ask her to do backflips wherever we were: hotel lobby, airport, cookouts ect.. She never did one ####### flip in public. She never did "anything" in public now that I think about it. I'm jumping on this wagon for the backflips, and definitely the double backflips to make up for last weeks TD that was called by because a stupid O-Lineman that should have been cut on the spot had a penlty. How dare he cost David Wilson a TD. CHOOO-CHOOO

 

[Concept Coop]

How is Richardson a valid comparison here? He's had 20 games of being fully featured and has looked like utter trash. He's a known quantity at this point. Wilson's next 20 touch game will be his first I believe.

Richardson does many things better than Wilson - most importantly, block, catch, and grind out tough yards. I think that's why Trent is getting 20 touch games and Wilson isn't.

 

[TheLurkerBelow]

How is Richardson a valid comparison here? He's had 20 games of being fully featured and has looked like utter trash. He's a known quantity at this point. Wilson's next 20 touch game will be his first I believe.

Richardson is a comparison as a very hyped RB who a lot of people believed in who hasn't nearly lived up to his billing but it's still early in his career. The frustration from owners of both is very similar.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

How is Richardson a valid comparison here? He's had 20 games of being fully featured and has looked like utter trash. He's a known quantity at this point. Wilson's next 20 touch game will be his first I believe.

Richardson does many things better than Wilson - most importantly, block, catch, and grind out tough yards. I think that's why Trent is getting 20 touch games and Wilson isn't.

Richardson has one catch in three games since joining the Colts, and "dammit Donald" Brown is playing ahead of him in passing situations currently. The morons who traded the farm for him in Cleveland used him like crazy last year. Since then, two unbiased coaching staffs have given passing down work to other guys. And not Darren Sproles types either -- we're talking Chris Ogbannaya and Donald Brown here. Something doesn't add up...

 

[Khy]

How is Richardson a valid comparison here? He's had 20 games of being fully featured and has looked like utter trash. He's a known quantity at this point. Wilson's next 20 touch game will be his first I believe.

Richardson does many things better than Wilson - most importantly, block, catch, and grind out tough yards. I think that's why Trent is getting 20 touch games and Wilson isn't.

Richardson has one catch in three games since joining the Colts, and "dammit Donald" Brown is playing ahead of him in passing situations currently. The morons who traded the farm for him in Cleveland used him like crazy last year. Since then, two unbiased coaching staffs have given passing down work to other guys. And not Darren Sproles types either -- we're talking Chris Ogbannaya and Donald Brown here. Something doesn't add up...

Well yeah, the difference between Wilson and Richardson is we now have 350 carries for Richardson of him posting a 3.49ypc career average and seeing more than 15 touches in 17 of his 20 games. Wilson on the other hand has 115 career carries and a career average of 4.4ypc. Wilson has eclipsed 15 touches in 2 of his 20 NFL games. So Richardson has been given every chance to succeed as the 'elite RB' we thought he was going to be and has failed and almost every step of the way. So far this season he's yet to even post a single game at 4ypc. Wilson on the other hand hasn't been given any real chance to succeed. If it's not safe to say that Richardson is a bust then it's far from okay to say Wilson is a bust.

 

[Concept Coop]

Richardson has one catch in three games since joining the Colts, and "dammit Donald" Brown is playing ahead of him in passing situations currently. The morons who traded the farm for him in Cleveland used him like crazy last year. Since then, two unbiased coaching staffs have given passing down work to other guys. And not Darren Sproles types either -- we're talking Chris Ogbannaya and Donald Brown here. Something doesn't add up...

He doesn't know the playbook, audibles, etc, yet. There is a reason Brown is getting the more exotic plays and Trent is getting the standard dive plays, IMO.

I'm not arguing that Trent is a good NFL RB, right now. But I do think he's a very good blocker, receiver, and short yardage back.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

How is Richardson a valid comparison here? He's had 20 games of being fully featured and has looked like utter trash. He's a known quantity at this point. Wilson's next 20 touch game will be his first I believe.

Richardson does many things better than Wilson - most importantly, block, catch, and grind out tough yards. I think that's why Trent is getting 20 touch games and Wilson isn't.

Richardson has one catch in three games since joining the Colts, and "dammit Donald" Brown is playing ahead of him in passing situations currently. The morons who traded the farm for him in Cleveland used him like crazy last year. Since then, two unbiased coaching staffs have given passing down work to other guys. And not Darren Sproles types either -- we're talking Chris Ogbannaya and Donald Brown here. Something doesn't add up...

Well yeah, the difference between Wilson and Richardson is we now have 350 carries for Richardson of him posting a 3.49ypc career average and seeing more than 15 touches in 17 of his 20 games. Wilson on the other hand has 115 career carries and a career average of 4.4ypc. Wilson has eclipsed 15 touches in 2 of his 20 NFL games. So Richardson has been given every chance to succeed as the 'elite RB' we thought he was going to be and has failed and almost every step of the way. So far this season he's yet to even post a single game at 4ypc. Wilson on the other hand hasn't been given any real chance to succeed. If it's not safe to say that Richardson is a bust then it's far from okay to say Wilson is a bust.

I think it's pretty reasonable to call them both fantasy busts for 2013, personally, considering the level of investment vs the production.

 

[Concept Coop]

If it's not safe to say that Richardson is a bust then it's far from okay to say Wilson is a bust.

I don't think anyone is calling Wilson a bust. I am certainly not, and am trying to add him to my dynasty rosters where I can. If Trent's price keeps dropping, I'll be scooping him up too.

 

[JuniorNB]

Wilson is overrated based on what people think he'll do when given an opportunity. The verdict is still out on that at this time. Still hasn't gotten it. Richardson is overrated based on the fact that he has been given ample opportunities and he is what a he is...a very average 3.6 ypc back. Yet some people still consider him to be a great or good back. I think he's a huge bust.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

Richardson has one catch in three games since joining the Colts, and "dammit Donald" Brown is playing ahead of him in passing situations currently. The morons who traded the farm for him in Cleveland used him like crazy last year. Since then, two unbiased coaching staffs have given passing down work to other guys. And not Darren Sproles types either -- we're talking Chris Ogbannaya and Donald Brown here. Something doesn't add up...

He doesn't know the playbook, audibles, etc, yet. There is a reason Brown is getting the more exotic plays and Trent is getting the standard dive plays, IMO.

I'm not arguing that Trent is a good NFL RB, right now. But I do think he's a very good blocker, receiver, and short yardage back.

Yeah, guess we'll see. IMO he was used in all those ways by the prior regime in Cleveland who went all in on him, and since then not so much with two seperate teams. He's not a good space player at all, and he only gets 1.6 yards after contact / carry -- which flat out sucks.

 

[Concept Coop]

Yeah, guess we'll see. IMO he was used in all those ways by the prior regime in Cleveland who went all in on him, and since then not so much with two seperate teams. He's not a good space player at all, and he only gets 1.6 yards after contact / carry -- which flat out sucks.

Yeah, we will see, and I think it will be interesting. With both players, actually.

 

[Khy]

If it's not safe to say that Richardson is a bust then it's far from okay to say Wilson is a bust.

I don't think anyone is calling Wilson a bust. I am certainly not, and am trying to add him to my dynasty rosters where I can. If Trent's price keeps dropping, I'll be scooping him up too.

Okay, that's fair. Honestly, it becomes hard to see through the lens as to what the 'anti-Wilson' crowd actually thinks of him. And I'm guilty of this as well from the other side of the argument. But we seem to get so heated that we all start spouting off ridiculous nonsense from time to time. From the past several pages of this thread I was convinced that you felt like Wilson was a talentless bust who would likely never amount to anything more than a journeyman backup in his career. Much in the way of what say, Emience has said continually.

 

[Eminence]

How is Richardson a valid comparison here? He's had 20 games of being fully featured and has looked like utter trash. He's a known quantity at this point. Wilson's next 20 touch game will be his first I believe.

Richardson does many things better than Wilson - most importantly, block, catch, and grind out tough yards. I think that's why Trent is getting 20 touch games and Wilson isn't.

Richardson has one catch in three games since joining the Colts, and "dammit Donald" Brown is playing ahead of him in passing situations currently. The morons who traded the farm for him in Cleveland used him like crazy last year. Since then, two unbiased coaching staffs have given passing down work to other guys. And not Darren Sproles types either -- we're talking Chris Ogbannaya and Donald Brown here. Something doesn't add up...

Well yeah, the difference between Wilson and Richardson is we now have 350 carries for Richardson of him posting a 3.49ypc career average and seeing more than 15 touches in 17 of his 20 games. Wilson on the other hand has 115 career carries and a career average of 4.4ypc. Wilson has eclipsed 15 touches in 2 of his 20 NFL games. So Richardson has been given every chance to succeed as the 'elite RB' we thought he was going to be and has failed and almost every step of the way. So far this season he's yet to even post a single game at 4ypc. Wilson on the other hand hasn't been given any real chance to succeed. If it's not safe to say that Richardson is a bust then it's far from okay to say Wilson is a bust.

Guys, at this point just realize Khy is a Wilson owner desperately holding onto what he thought was a lock for production. You're not going to convince this guy anything other than the players on his team are legit.

This is like arguing with Jesse Jackson on issues of equality. There's always going to be some if, and, but. Excuse. The week David Wilson does have a decent game (statistically, he's bound to). You're going to see Khy pumping his chest about how "gnarly" David Wilson was.

A moderator made this thread and has not posted since. He's the guy who should be receiving the bulk of the grief.

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David Wilson was drafted with the 32nd Overall Pick. A pick which see it's fair share of busts. They get the tag of a "first rounder" while probably being closer in talent to the 2nd Round Players took than anyone in Picks 1 - 16. David Wilson is not in Trent Richardson's league. I don't know why Khy keeps comparing Wilson to players who actually have shown SOMETHING in this league.

David Wilson - 32nd Overall

AJ Jenkins - 32nd Overall

Beanie Wells - 31st Overall

Those are comparisons that need to be made to David Wilson. Not Jamaal Charles and certainly not Trent Richardson.

 

[Eminence]

If it's not safe to say that Richardson is a bust then it's far from okay to say Wilson is a bust.

I don't think anyone is calling Wilson a bust. I am certainly not, and am trying to add him to my dynasty rosters where I can. If Trent's price keeps dropping, I'll be scooping him up too.

Okay, that's fair. Honestly, it becomes hard to see through the lens as to what the 'anti-Wilson' crowd actually thinks of him. And I'm guilty of this as well from the other side of the argument. But we seem to get so heated that we all start spouting off ridiculous nonsense from time to time. From the past several pages of this thread I was convinced that you felt like Wilson was a talentless bust who would likely never amount to anything more than a journeyman backup in his career. Much in the way of what say, Emience has said continually.

I've never said anything like that and would love to see a single quote from me that suggests this. Again, use this as evidence that Khy is a blinded Wilson mark.

EDIT: Why in the world did you even bring me up?

 

[Khy]

How is Richardson a valid comparison here? He's had 20 games of being fully featured and has looked like utter trash. He's a known quantity at this point. Wilson's next 20 touch game will be his first I believe.

Richardson does many things better than Wilson - most importantly, block, catch, and grind out tough yards. I think that's why Trent is getting 20 touch games and Wilson isn't.

Richardson has one catch in three games since joining the Colts, and "dammit Donald" Brown is playing ahead of him in passing situations currently. The morons who traded the farm for him in Cleveland used him like crazy last year. Since then, two unbiased coaching staffs have given passing down work to other guys. And not Darren Sproles types either -- we're talking Chris Ogbannaya and Donald Brown here. Something doesn't add up...

Well yeah, the difference between Wilson and Richardson is we now have 350 carries for Richardson of him posting a 3.49ypc career average and seeing more than 15 touches in 17 of his 20 games. Wilson on the other hand has 115 career carries and a career average of 4.4ypc. Wilson has eclipsed 15 touches in 2 of his 20 NFL games. So Richardson has been given every chance to succeed as the 'elite RB' we thought he was going to be and has failed and almost every step of the way. So far this season he's yet to even post a single game at 4ypc. Wilson on the other hand hasn't been given any real chance to succeed. If it's not safe to say that Richardson is a bust then it's far from okay to say Wilson is a bust.

Guys, at this point just realize Khy is a Wilson owner desperately holding onto what he thought was a lock for production. You're not going to convince this guy anything other than the players on his team are legit.

This is like arguing with Jesse Jackson on issues of equality. There's always going to be some if, and, but. Excuse. The week David Wilson does have a decent game (statistically, he's bound to). You're going to see Khy pumping his chest about how "gnarly" David Wilson was.

A moderator made this thread and has not posted since. He's the guy who should be receiving the bulk of the grief.

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David Wilson was drafted with the 32nd Overall Pick. A pick which see it's fair share of busts. They get the tag of a "first rounder" while probably being closer in talent to the 2nd Round Players took than anyone in Picks 1 - 16. David Wilson is not in Trent Richardson's league. I don't know why Khy keeps comparing Wilson to players who actually have shown SOMETHING in this league.

David Wilson - 32nd Overall

AJ Jenkins - 32nd Overall

Beanie Wells - 31st Overall

Those are comparisons that need to be made to David Wilson. Not Jamaal Charles and certainly not Trent Richardson.

I've actually been on the Wilson bandwagon prior to owning him in any fantasy leagues. I've since made several deals to buy low on him in dynasty and drafted him in a couple of redrafts in the 4th round (prior to Brown going down). Whether I was an owner of him or not I'd still be sitting here making the same exact points as I am right now. My ownership of him is irrelevant to my analysis of him as a football player.

As for comparing Wilson to Beanie instead of Trent... I feel like you're telling me I should be comparing him to a better player. As Beanie was never really a bad RB, he could never stay healthy and that was his downfall. Otherwise, he maintains a 4.0ypc career average, about 0.51 YPC more than Richardson's current career total. He also maintains a 10.5 YPR total compared to Richardson's 7.2 YPR total. Trent Richardson has not been a good running back since coming into the league... he's been a mediocre if not underwhelming talent who really hasn't shown more than a few flashes on more than enough chances to really break out. He's now failed to break 4.0ypc on average across 2 different teams and 3 different regimes.

 

[Concept Coop]

If it's not safe to say that Richardson is a bust then it's far from okay to say Wilson is a bust.

I don't think anyone is calling Wilson a bust. I am certainly not, and am trying to add him to my dynasty rosters where I can. If Trent's price keeps dropping, I'll be scooping him up too.

Okay, that's fair. Honestly, it becomes hard to see through the lens as to what the 'anti-Wilson' crowd actually thinks of him. And I'm guilty of this as well from the other side of the argument. But we seem to get so heated that we all start spouting off ridiculous nonsense from time to time. From the past several pages of this thread I was convinced that you felt like Wilson was a talentless bust who would likely never amount to anything more than a journeyman backup in his career. Much in the way of what say, Emience has said continually.

The last few pages I have given up on having an actual conversation and was more or less being an #######, fueling the fire.

But early in the thread I suggested Wilson was a buy low, a talented player, etc. I was actually hoping he'd be an off-season target of mine, but after seeing his price, I went after cheaper options (Lacy, Gio, mostly). It was only after the off-season hype that I jumped off the bandwagon. I just couldn't see paying so much for a guy that still had a lot to prove, when there were other options in simiar situations who were going ROUNDS later (again, Gio, Lacy).

 

[Khy]

If it's not safe to say that Richardson is a bust then it's far from okay to say Wilson is a bust.

I don't think anyone is calling Wilson a bust. I am certainly not, and am trying to add him to my dynasty rosters where I can. If Trent's price keeps dropping, I'll be scooping him up too.

Okay, that's fair. Honestly, it becomes hard to see through the lens as to what the 'anti-Wilson' crowd actually thinks of him. And I'm guilty of this as well from the other side of the argument. But we seem to get so heated that we all start spouting off ridiculous nonsense from time to time. From the past several pages of this thread I was convinced that you felt like Wilson was a talentless bust who would likely never amount to anything more than a journeyman backup in his career. Much in the way of what say, Emience has said continually.

The last few pages I have given up on having an actual conversation and was more or less being an #######, fueling the fire.But early in the thread I suggested Wilson was a buy low, a talented player, etc. I was actually hoping he'd be an off-season target of mine, but after seeing his price, I went after cheaper options (Lacy, Gio, mostly). It was only after the off-season hype that I jumped off the bandwagon. I just couldn't see paying so much for a guy that still had a lot to prove, when there were other options in simiar situations who were going ROUNDS later (again, Gio, Lacy).

That's fair. Again, I got him at his 4th round price. I'd have never paid his 1st/2nd turn price he became after the Brown injury. As while I felt he had massive upside this season, I wasn't blind to the downside. I still think at some point this season he becomes a mid-RB2 week-to-week starter with RB1 upside every week. His situation is awful though. Granted, I think if he doesn't get injured this week he probably comes in around 100 and a TD. If you watched the game he did actually look decent out there and the blocking was awful but he was still making moves and pushing piles for 4 and 5 yards. Later in the game the line started to make some holes but at that point Jacobs was in the game and couldn't make anything of them.

Again, in redraft, I'm still not dropping him. I may even be starting him this week. As my other real option over him is Ridley in that league. We'll see if any more news comes out about his neck but from what I'm reading the coaches told him they were pulling him as a precaution. Which makes sense. The seasons basically lost, no sense in sending him out there without 100% confirmation he's okay and risk him seeing a career ending type of injury.

 

[TheFanatic]

If it's not safe to say that Richardson is a bust then it's far from okay to say Wilson is a bust.

I don't think anyone is calling Wilson a bust. I am certainly not, and am trying to add him to my dynasty rosters where I can. If Trent's price keeps dropping, I'll be scooping him up too.

Okay, that's fair. Honestly, it becomes hard to see through the lens as to what the 'anti-Wilson' crowd actually thinks of him. And I'm guilty of this as well from the other side of the argument. But we seem to get so heated that we all start spouting off ridiculous nonsense from time to time. From the past several pages of this thread I was convinced that you felt like Wilson was a talentless bust who would likely never amount to anything more than a journeyman backup in his career. Much in the way of what say, Emience has said continually.

The last few pages I have given up on having an actual conversation and was more or less being an #######, fueling the fire.

You forgot, making up stats, using terrible logic, and talking out of your ###. But yeah, we get it...

 

[Khy]

If it's not safe to say that Richardson is a bust then it's far from okay to say Wilson is a bust.

I don't think anyone is calling Wilson a bust. I am certainly not, and am trying to add him to my dynasty rosters where I can. If Trent's price keeps dropping, I'll be scooping him up too.

Okay, that's fair. Honestly, it becomes hard to see through the lens as to what the 'anti-Wilson' crowd actually thinks of him. And I'm guilty of this as well from the other side of the argument. But we seem to get so heated that we all start spouting off ridiculous nonsense from time to time. From the past several pages of this thread I was convinced that you felt like Wilson was a talentless bust who would likely never amount to anything more than a journeyman backup in his career. Much in the way of what say, Emience has said continually.

The last few pages I have given up on having an actual conversation and was more or less being an #######, fueling the fire.

You forgot, making up stats, using terrible logic, and talking out of your ###. But yeah, we get it...

I let it go man... Coop is basically admitting that he's doing all of that stuff just to fuel the fire. It's like when your girlfriends pissed at you already and just to be a #### you start doing stuff you know will get her even more pissed off. He's pretty much admitting to doing the same thing, just trying to rouse everyone up more than they already are.

 

[TheFanatic]

If it's not safe to say that Richardson is a bust then it's far from okay to say Wilson is a bust.

I don't think anyone is calling Wilson a bust. I am certainly not, and am trying to add him to my dynasty rosters where I can. If Trent's price keeps dropping, I'll be scooping him up too.

Okay, that's fair. Honestly, it becomes hard to see through the lens as to what the 'anti-Wilson' crowd actually thinks of him. And I'm guilty of this as well from the other side of the argument. But we seem to get so heated that we all start spouting off ridiculous nonsense from time to time. From the past several pages of this thread I was convinced that you felt like Wilson was a talentless bust who would likely never amount to anything more than a journeyman backup in his career. Much in the way of what say, Emience has said continually.

The last few pages I have given up on having an actual conversation and was more or less being an #######, fueling the fire.

You forgot, making up stats, using terrible logic, and talking out of your ###. But yeah, we get it...

I let it go man... Coop is basically admitting that he's doing all of that stuff just to fuel the fire. It's like when your girlfriends pissed at you already and just to be a #### you start doing stuff you know will get her even more pissed off. He's pretty much admitting to doing the same thing, just trying to rouse everyone up more than they already are.

And? I'm fueling the fire from the other side!

 

[Khy]

If it's not safe to say that Richardson is a bust then it's far from okay to say Wilson is a bust.

I don't think anyone is calling Wilson a bust. I am certainly not, and am trying to add him to my dynasty rosters where I can. If Trent's price keeps dropping, I'll be scooping him up too.

Okay, that's fair. Honestly, it becomes hard to see through the lens as to what the 'anti-Wilson' crowd actually thinks of him. And I'm guilty of this as well from the other side of the argument. But we seem to get so heated that we all start spouting off ridiculous nonsense from time to time. From the past several pages of this thread I was convinced that you felt like Wilson was a talentless bust who would likely never amount to anything more than a journeyman backup in his career. Much in the way of what say, Emience has said continually.

The last few pages I have given up on having an actual conversation and was more or less being an #######, fueling the fire.

You forgot, making up stats, using terrible logic, and talking out of your ###. But yeah, we get it...

I let it go man... Coop is basically admitting that he's doing all of that stuff just to fuel the fire. It's like when your girlfriends pissed at you already and just to be a #### you start doing stuff you know will get her even more pissed off. He's pretty much admitting to doing the same thing, just trying to rouse everyone up more than they already are.

And? I'm fueling the fire from the other side!

 

[monk]

If it's not safe to say that Richardson is a bust then it's far from okay to say Wilson is a bust.

I don't think anyone is calling Wilson a bust. I am certainly not, and am trying to add him to my dynasty rosters where I can. If Trent's price keeps dropping, I'll be scooping him up too.

Okay, that's fair. Honestly, it becomes hard to see through the lens as to what the 'anti-Wilson' crowd actually thinks of him. And I'm guilty of this as well from the other side of the argument. But we seem to get so heated that we all start spouting off ridiculous nonsense from time to time. From the past several pages of this thread I was convinced that you felt like Wilson was a talentless bust who would likely never amount to anything more than a journeyman backup in his career. Much in the way of what say, Emience has said continually.

The last few pages I have given up on having an actual conversation and was more or less being an #######, fueling the fire.

You forgot, making up stats, using terrible logic, and talking out of your ###. But yeah, we get it...

I let it go man... Coop is basically admitting that he's doing all of that stuff just to fuel the fire. It's like when your girlfriends pissed at you already and just to be a #### you start doing stuff you know will get her even more pissed off. He's pretty much admitting to doing the same thing, just trying to rouse everyone up more than they already are.

And? I'm fueling the fire from the other side!

David Wilson (neck) is dealing with "some kind of a tingling," and is uncertain for Thursday's game against the Bears.
Source: Ralph Vacchiano on Twitter
@ Chicago (27th vs RBs) + Tingling = "Not starting him with or without confidence"

 

[Koya]

If it's not safe to say that Richardson is a bust then it's far from okay to say Wilson is a bust.

I don't think anyone is calling Wilson a bust. I am certainly not, and am trying to add him to my dynasty rosters where I can. If Trent's price keeps dropping, I'll be scooping him up too.

Okay, that's fair. Honestly, it becomes hard to see through the lens as to what the 'anti-Wilson' crowd actually thinks of him. And I'm guilty of this as well from the other side of the argument. But we seem to get so heated that we all start spouting off ridiculous nonsense from time to time. From the past several pages of this thread I was convinced that you felt like Wilson was a talentless bust who would likely never amount to anything more than a journeyman backup in his career. Much in the way of what say, Emience has said continually.

The last few pages I have given up on having an actual conversation and was more or less being an #######, fueling the fire.

You forgot, making up stats, using terrible logic, and talking out of your ###. But yeah, we get it...

I let it go man... Coop is basically admitting that he's doing all of that stuff just to fuel the fire. It's like when your girlfriends pissed at you already and just to be a #### you start doing stuff you know will get her even more pissed off. He's pretty much admitting to doing the same thing, just trying to rouse everyone up more than they already are.

And? I'm fueling the fire from the other side!

David Wilson (neck) is dealing with "some kind of a tingling," and is uncertain for Thursday's game against the Bears.



Source: Ralph Vacchiano on Twitter

Tingling + neck is never a good thing for RBs (See Bradford).

Scary to say, but my goodness.. bump Jacobs?

 

[TheFanatic]

David Wilson (neck) is dealing with "some kind of a tingling," and is uncertain for Thursday's game against the Bears.



Source: Ralph Vacchiano on Twitter

####!

I know it sounds nuts, but I sorta need to start that dude this week. And before you mock me for having to start Wilson, I started the guy weeks 1, 2, and yesterday. I'm 5-0.

 

[monk]

David Wilson (neck) is dealing with "some kind of a tingling," and is uncertain for Thursday's game against the Bears.



Source: Ralph Vacchiano on Twitter

####!

I know it sounds nuts, but I sorta need to start that dude this week. And before you mock me for having to start Wilson, I started the guy weeks 1, 2, and yesterday. I'm 5-0.

Unfortunately this week may not be an option.

I started him week 1 & 5 and won both weeks. I'm 4-1 overall, I suspect because Wilson makes everyone around him better. That's the one intangible that Wilson brings to the table that we have yet to discuss.

 

[Pigskin Fanatic]

can't find any updates on his injury. He said after the game his hands were completely numb after the injury, "no feelings" were the words he used I believe. Having a short week doesn't help either. More on this as news breaks.

 

[Bobbyn2022]

I'm glad Inhabe Wilson but only because Inhave Brown as well. If I didnt have brown Inwould be tripping balls. Brown comes back week 10 vs Oakland. Till then ill ride the waiver hot guy and Wilson if he has a good matchup. Not bad for a 3rd round RB glad I didn't take him in the second like some people.

 

[Khy]

I'm glad Inhabe Wilson but only because Inhave Brown as well. If I didnt have brown Inwould be tripping balls. Brown comes back week 10 vs Oakland. Till then ill ride the waiver hot guy and Wilson if he has a good matchup. Not bad for a 3rd round RB glad I didn't take him in the second like some people.

I inhave no idea what you just said...

 

[tunamelt warrior]

How is Richardson a valid comparison here? He's had 20 games of being fully featured and has looked like utter trash. He's a known quantity at this point. Wilson's next 20 touch game will be his first I believe.

Richardson is a comparison as a very hyped RB who a lot of people believed in who hasn't nearly lived up to his billing but it's still early in his career. The frustration from owners of both is very similar.

How about owners that have Richardson, Wilson, AND CJ Spiller? Thought I killed my draft getting these guys, now I just want this fantasy season to disappear! lol

 

[snitwitch]

How is Richardson a valid comparison here? He's had 20 games of being fully featured and has looked like utter trash. He's a known quantity at this point. Wilson's next 20 touch game will be his first I believe.

Richardson is a comparison as a very hyped RB who a lot of people believed in who hasn't nearly lived up to his billing but it's still early in his career. The frustration from owners of both is very similar.

How about owners that have Richardson, Wilson, AND CJ Spiller? Thought I killed my draft getting these guys, now I just want this fantasy season to disappear! lol

I have this unholy trinity, along with AJ Green. I'm 2-3 though, hoping at least one of these guys turns it around...

 

[Khy]

How is Richardson a valid comparison here? He's had 20 games of being fully featured and has looked like utter trash. He's a known quantity at this point. Wilson's next 20 touch game will be his first I believe.

Richardson is a comparison as a very hyped RB who a lot of people believed in who hasn't nearly lived up to his billing but it's still early in his career. The frustration from owners of both is very similar.

How about owners that have Richardson, Wilson, AND CJ Spiller? Thought I killed my draft getting these guys, now I just want this fantasy season to disappear! lol

I have this unholy trinity, along with AJ Green. I'm 2-3 though, hoping at least one of these guys turns it around...

Feeling your pain guys. Stevan Ridley, Wilson and RG3 here. Graham and Charles have been the only reason my big money league team is even remotely a float.

 

[Sweetness_34]

If it's not safe to say that Richardson is a bust then it's far from okay to say Wilson is a bust.

I don't think anyone is calling Wilson a bust. I am certainly not, and am trying to add him to my dynasty rosters where I can. If Trent's price keeps dropping, I'll be scooping him up too.

Okay, that's fair. Honestly, it becomes hard to see through the lens as to what the 'anti-Wilson' crowd actually thinks of him. And I'm guilty of this as well from the other side of the argument. But we seem to get so heated that we all start spouting off ridiculous nonsense from time to time. From the past several pages of this thread I was convinced that you felt like Wilson was a talentless bust who would likely never amount to anything more than a journeyman backup in his career. Much in the way of what say, Emience has said continually.

The last few pages I have given up on having an actual conversation and was more or less being an #######, fueling the fire.

You forgot, making up stats, using terrible logic, and talking out of your ###. But yeah, we get it...

I let it go man... Coop is basically admitting that he's doing all of that stuff just to fuel the fire. It's like when your girlfriends pissed at you already and just to be a #### you start doing stuff you know will get her even more pissed off. He's pretty much admitting to doing the same thing, just trying to rouse everyone up more than they already are.

And? I'm fueling the fire from the other side!

David Wilson (neck) is dealing with "some kind of a tingling," and is uncertain for Thursday's game against the Bears.





Source: Ralph Vacchiano on Twitter

Tingling + neck is never a good thing for RBs (See Bradford).Scary to say, but my goodness.. bump Jacobs?

Against the Bears D at home in a game the Giants will be behind by at least 2 TDs in the 2nd half?

 

[netnalp]

Garafolo: Giants Will Re-Sign Da'Rel Scott

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Might mean they are concerned about Wilson's injury or the experiment with Jacobs is at an end.

 

[tdhartis]

I know no one cares about my individual team, but I just jumped on board this partially derailed train in one league by trading Heath Miller to the Wilson (& Owen Daniels) owner. Might be helpful for those interested in Wilson's current value.

CHHOO CHhoooo..?

 

[rocketsauce]

So are we finally done with David Wilson? Or does the injury just give everyone the latest excuse to keep grasping for something here.

 

[Eviloutsider]

So are we finally done with David Wilson? Or does the injury just give everyone the latest excuse to keep grasping for something here.

It depends on the league. I am in a deep league, with large starting rosters where people like Bolden start. No, I am not done with Wilson as he could still be serviceable. Heck, he was serviceable last week with his TD.