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DeadSpin Recap of the Worst Day in Officiating (1 Viewer)
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Joe Summer
Footballguy
I can't believe there were still some losers at ESPN (Colin Cowherd for example) defending the replacement refs yesterday.
Soulfly3
Footballguy
Defending guys who stepped in so we can be watching ANY football, whatsoever?
doowain
Footballguy
You know, I was wondering that same thing. If we are only magnifying the mistakes because they ARE replacement officials. I'm sure we are, but they certainly haven't helped themselves.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Deadspin is to football what the Enquirer is to news. Sure, they may break a sleazy story here or there, but most of their stuff is total garbage without any actual thought or insight.
BroadwayG
Footballguy
This has happened every week since they've had officiating "experts" on call.
Cato
Footballguy
From wikipedia: "Goldfish have a memory-span of at least three months and can distinguish between different shapes, colors and sounds." Sounds about right...
doowain
Footballguy
With the frequency it happened this past weekend? I don't think so.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Please don't ever ever refer to Florio as an expert ever again. He has no clue what he's talking about. He ripped the refs in one game on his site and was completely wrong. The comments are filled with dozens of people pointing out that he was flat out wrong.
BroadwayG
Footballguy
Not willing to cut them a tiny bit of slack for not having reffed a real NFL game before? The fact that they are comparable to the normal guys is amazing. I hope the NFL tells the officiating union to shove it.
doowain
Footballguy
Absolutely I am. But to say that they wasn't any/much difference from the normal officials just isn't true.
BroadwayG
Footballguy
Sure it is.
thatguythere
Footballguy
I do too. These replacements aren't that much worse than the regulars so why pay the regulars more? I think the replacement refs are making the market for negotiations. Every game that goes by the real guys are worth less and less.The Lions have been getting screwed by the refs for years....what's so great about the "real" refs?
Khy
Footballguy
I don't know... calling a block in the back on a kicking team is about as ridiculous it can get for me. The personal foul on Aldon Smith for Rodgers kicking his helmet off was pretty good too. It's not so much that you couldn't look at past seasons with the real refs and find just as many mistakes. However those mistakes wouldn't be nearly as glaring and ridiculous. The Nate Washington catch was CLEARLY a incomplete pass, even at full speed watching the game you could see that. His feet don't even hit the ground before the ball is falling from his hands. Some of them is Deadspin nit picking, like Jared Allen's offsides... in real time it looks really close. Or some of the missed or "incorrect" pass interference calls, all of these things could happen with normal refs. Normal refs wouldn't let the clock run while reviewing a challenge or call a stoppage for a 2 minute warning well before it should have been. Normal refs wouldn't allow the same offensive lineman to wrap a defensive end by the neck for like 7 plays in a row.
Pipes
Footballguy
What about the extra timeout to the Seahawks? Or the block in the back on Cobb's punt return that was actually called then picked up when there was an obvious block in the back?In most games the officiating was fine but the GB/SF was absolutely brutal...maybe just a bad crew?
BroadwayG
Footballguy
Remember when Hoculi called that backward pass incomplete and blew the play dead so the Chargers would lose? That was awesome. I can't wait for more of that with the old refs.
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johnadams
Footballguy
Got anything from this decade?
I thought the refs were fine. Biggest changes I see - almost no defensive holding calls - everything is now pass interference; a bit inconsistent in the aforementioned pass interference calls - I suspect that will get better with experience; a little more holding on the offensive line - not sure the NFL is going to lose much sleep over the QBs getting more time to throw the ball.
I think it was the sunday night game, but I heard the announcers questioning a call, but then seeing the instant replay were forced to acknowledge that the play had technically been a penalty, though it was a touch foul. Tough to complain when you are griping about officials making calls on penalties that the former refs might have let slide.
I think it was the sunday night game, but I heard the announcers questioning a call, but then seeing the instant replay were forced to acknowledge that the play had technically been a penalty, though it was a touch foul. Tough to complain when you are griping about officials making calls on penalties that the former refs might have let slide.
doowain
Footballguy
Also...where were the offensive holding calls? Is that what led to the most 40 point performances in Week 1 history? When you have 10 seconds to throw, it's pretty easy to find an open WR.
BroadwayG
Footballguy
Can you give me the number of holding calls this week compared to last years averages?
johnadams
Footballguy
Keep 'em coming. At some point, we might approach the total number of missed calls in the first quarter of the niners-packers game.
BroadwayG
Footballguy
Can you list those missed calls from the 1st quarter?
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
The missed call on the Cobb td return helped me win my game. 
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BroadwayG
Footballguy
Here's an easier one for you. How many missed holding calls are pointed out in the deadspin link?
BroadwayG
Footballguy
doowain
Footballguy
Click on the link and check for yourself.
BroadwayG
Footballguy
The answer is zero. No holding calls deemed worse than calling offsides on the wrong player.
Manster
Footballguy
I'm getting kinda tired of hearing about how bad the refs are. In the few games I watched, I did not feel as though the refs were horrible. In fact, as some others have said, I didnt even really notice much of a difference. There were some bumps, sure, but overall, woopity doo. Again, I didnt watch all the games. The NFL is HARD to referee. You have to babysit QBs, theres seemingly a hold every play, and if someone makes a good hit now its a penalty.
I think people want these guys to be bad so they have something to talk about. I'm sure deadspin was going to do this article no matter how the refs did. Lame.
I think people want these guys to be bad so they have something to talk about. I'm sure deadspin was going to do this article no matter how the refs did. Lame.
comfortably numb
Footballguy
If I had not known about the lock out, I honestly would not have known the difference.
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massraider
Footballguy
Deadspin? I'll pass.
the only reason people are talking about it is the press won't shut up about it.
strong
Footballguy
blowing the whistle too early in a split section reaction is MUCH different than huddling together for several minutes and coming to the wrong conclusion. hocculi made a split section reaction, but his ruling after mistakenly calling the play dead was correct. not that i'm gung-ho about ripping these refs a new one, but it goes without saying: these refs are inexperienced and are making way more errors in interpreting the rule book and seeing the field than the regular refs. that's not much of an insult: as a former little league umpire, reffing a game with slow kids is hard enough. i can't imagine how long it would take to get used to the speed of the NFL.'BroadwayG said:
GregR
Footballguy
Speaking of horrible officiating by the replacement refs, did anyone see that incomplete pass ruled as a fumble, and the ensuing mess of bad decision making related to it?
QB was throwing a pass. A defender hit his arm. The ball flies 10-15 yards upfield.
One side judge runs on the field waving his arms for incomplete pass, and all the players stop playing. But the ref doesn't blow the whistle. Finally a defender picks up the ball and runs it about 80 yards for a touchdown. He had to dodge through about 10 members of his own coaching staff who had stepped onto the field to yell advice to their defense. Because everyone in the stadium but the refs knew it was an incomplete pass.
So the refs rule it a touchdown, but call a penalty on the defense for the people coming on the field. Even though one ref clearly had called it incomplete and signaled in such a way that the players would have stopped playing.
Then the replacement refs had a chance to get the call right when it was challenged. I mean obvious call right, defender's hand is swinging upfield. QB is trying to throw it downfield. Ball flies out 15 yards downfield, simple physics tells us the QB's hand was going that way, even if you didn't look at the numerous replays that showed this was the case. Pereira is on the broadcast and points out his hand is going forward.
But nope, the ref comes back and says the ruling on the field stands. And then the refs get back together and then throw a flag on the offense for having also come on the field during the play. So now it's offsetting penalties.
Man, talk about a fiasco. Wait, sorry, did I say replacement refs? I meant regular refs. This was Bill Levy and a regular NFL crew in the Falcons at Texans game last season.
QB was throwing a pass. A defender hit his arm. The ball flies 10-15 yards upfield.
One side judge runs on the field waving his arms for incomplete pass, and all the players stop playing. But the ref doesn't blow the whistle. Finally a defender picks up the ball and runs it about 80 yards for a touchdown. He had to dodge through about 10 members of his own coaching staff who had stepped onto the field to yell advice to their defense. Because everyone in the stadium but the refs knew it was an incomplete pass.
So the refs rule it a touchdown, but call a penalty on the defense for the people coming on the field. Even though one ref clearly had called it incomplete and signaled in such a way that the players would have stopped playing.
Then the replacement refs had a chance to get the call right when it was challenged. I mean obvious call right, defender's hand is swinging upfield. QB is trying to throw it downfield. Ball flies out 15 yards downfield, simple physics tells us the QB's hand was going that way, even if you didn't look at the numerous replays that showed this was the case. Pereira is on the broadcast and points out his hand is going forward.
But nope, the ref comes back and says the ruling on the field stands. And then the refs get back together and then throw a flag on the offense for having also come on the field during the play. So now it's offsetting penalties.
Man, talk about a fiasco. Wait, sorry, did I say replacement refs? I meant regular refs. This was Bill Levy and a regular NFL crew in the Falcons at Texans game last season.
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Buffaloes
Footballguy
last year's missed fumbles in both the Denver/Pitt game and the Detroit/New Orleans Wild Card games come to mind. Pretty huge missed calls there.
