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Deangelo Williams potential destinations (1 Viewer)

eakfootball said:
Miami and Tampa seem like the two most logical places. The Packers and Patriots would make great fits, i just dont think either team will go after him. Redskins need a RB, but i dont see Shanny going with a high priced back. I Saints could be a good fit, but will they spend that money on Williams with what they are paying Bush? Seems the Saints just need a big back to compliment Bush. My sleeper team is the Steelers. They love to run, they only have Mendenhall, and he is a pretty one dimensional back.
I forgot about the Colts, i would say these are the top 5 teams to get Williams:ColtsDolphinsBucsRedskinsSteelers
Blount has looked pretty good for the bucs so im not sure that they will pay him. My sleeper team is the Giants, Jacobs dosnt have too much left, so a bradshaw, williams RBBC would be pretty good.
Blount has looked pretty good, but it looked like the Bucs coaching staff didnt trust him very much. Even if Blount is the real deal, he isnt an every down back and the Bucs will look to add another RB this offseason. Plus, Bradshaw and Jacobs are much better than Blount and Caddy, so i would think the Bucs have a much bigger need at RB.Williams would make a perfect fit in Tampa, even if they plan on keeping Blount in the RB rotation.
 
eakfootball said:
Miami and Tampa seem like the two most logical places. The Packers and Patriots would make great fits, i just dont think either team will go after him. Redskins need a RB, but i dont see Shanny going with a high priced back. I Saints could be a good fit, but will they spend that money on Williams with what they are paying Bush? Seems the Saints just need a big back to compliment Bush. My sleeper team is the Steelers. They love to run, they only have Mendenhall, and he is a pretty one dimensional back.
I forgot about the Colts, i would say these are the top 5 teams to get Williams:ColtsDolphinsBucsRedskinsSteelers
Blount has looked pretty good for the bucs so im not sure that they will pay him. My sleeper team is the Giants, Jacobs dosnt have too much left, so a bradshaw, williams RBBC would be pretty good.
Blount has looked pretty good, but it looked like the Bucs coaching staff didnt trust him very much. Even if Blount is the real deal, he isnt an every down back and the Bucs will look to add another RB this offseason. Plus, Bradshaw and Jacobs are much better than Blount and Caddy, so i would think the Bucs have a much bigger need at RB.Williams would make a perfect fit in Tampa, even if they plan on keeping Blount in the RB rotation.
:lmao: Blount is not as good as people think, Williams in TB would be a perfect fit. I can see the Buc's throwing some big $$$$$$ at Williams.
 
I think if the Lions really wanted to swing for the fences, they'd make a serious push for this guy.

Despite Jahvid's toes, I really don't feel he's a 15-20 carry back in this league. You give him 8-10 carries and use him in a Reggie Bush type of role coupled with DeWil, whooooooaaaaa baby.

Stafford

DeAngelo

Jahvid

Calvin

Burleson

WR slot guy picked in the 2011 draft

Pettigrew/Scheffler

Seriously looks unstoppable. :shock:

 
I think if the Lions really wanted to swing for the fences, they'd make a serious push for this guy.Despite Jahvid's toes, I really don't feel he's a 15-20 carry back in this league. You give him 8-10 carries and use him in a Reggie Bush type of role coupled with DeWil, whooooooaaaaa baby.StaffordDeAngeloJahvidCalvinBurlesonWR slot guy picked in the 2011 draftPettigrew/SchefflerSeriously looks unstoppable. ;)
Even if Best isnt an every down RB, i dont think the Lions spend the money on Williams The Lions problem isnt skill positions, its the Oline, and everything else other than their Dline. Assuming KSmith can stay healthy, they should be OK with Best and Smith. Even if Smith isnt a factor, all the Lions would need at RB is a bigger guy to do some of the dirty work. Either way, i think it is way too early to say Best cant handle more than 8-10 carries, look at what happened to Mcfadden this season after suffering turf toe his rookie year.
 
for ppl suggesting tampa --- what is their history of spending $$, 'cuz I don't think it's very good off the top of my head.
Any owner would be willing to dish out some money if they think it will help their team win a championship. I cant see even the cheapest guys not spend money on a guy like Williams if they think he is the missing piece, which i think Williams could be for that Tampa offense.
 
for ppl suggesting tampa --- what is their history of spending $$, 'cuz I don't think it's very good off the top of my head.
Any owner would be willing to dish out some money if they think it will help their team win a championship. I cant see even the cheapest guys not spend money on a guy like Williams if they think he is the missing piece, which i think Williams could be for that Tampa offense.
this is based on what?While several teams figure to start the ’08 season well under the $116.2 million cap, the available room will decrease significantly. From year to year, teams are required to spend a designated percentage amount of the cap. Last year, the salary floor was $81.75 million with the cap being $109 million. This year, the floor percentage has increased to 86.4, forcing teams to spend at least $100 million.

The following is a list of the maximum amount of money each of the NFL teams has remaining to spend under the salary cap. Figures are as of last Thursday.

1. Tampa Bay $42.8 million

2. New Orleans $31.1 million

3. Kansas City $30.0 million

4. Tennessee $27.2 million

5. Buffalo $26.6 million

6. Jacksonville $26.2 million

7. Green Bay $24.4 million

8. Chicago $22.5 million

9. Miami $21.0 million

10. San Diego $18.7 million

11. Minnesota $18.6 million

12. Houston $15.6 million

13. Denver $15.2 million

14. San Francisco $15.0 million

15. St. Louis $14.6 million

16. Philadelphia $13.9 million

17. Cincinnati $13.3 million

18. Atlanta $12.5 million

19. Cleveland $12.0 million

20. New York Giants $11.1 million

21. New England $10.8 million

22. Seattle $9.1 million

23. Carolina $8.3 million

24. Washington $7.7 million

25. Indianapolis $7.6 million

26. Oakland $6.4 million

27. Baltimore $4.7 million

28. New York Jets $4.5 million

29. Detroit $4.4 million

30. Dallas $3.9 million

31. Pittsburgh $1.3 million

32. Arizona $310,078

Projected 2009 NFL Salary Cap Space for Each Team

Rank Team $ Under the Cap

1

Tampa Bay Buccaneers

$22300000

2

Cleveland Browns

$17840000

3

Green Bay Packers

$16080000

4

Jacksonville Jaguars

$14990000

5

Kansas City Chiefs

$10910000

6

Tennessee Titans

$10490000

7

Denver Broncos

$9980000

8

San Francisco 49ers

$9370000

9

Cincinnati Bengals

$9320000

10

Buffalo Bills

$7830000

11

Minnesota Vikings

$6730000

12

Atlanta Falcons

$6650000

13

Miami Dolphins

$6430000

14

Philadelphia Eagles

$5830000

15

St. Louis Rams

$5710000

16

San Diego Chargers

$5160000

17

New Orleans Saints

$5100000

18

Chicago Bears

$4940000

19

Houston Texans

$4690000

20

New England Patriots

$4410000

21

Washington Redskins

$4380000

22

Pittsburgh Steelers

$4020000

23

Arizona Cardinals

$3630000

24

Baltimore Ravens

$3190000

25

Dallas Cowboys

$2810000

26

Indianapolis Colts

$2770000

27

NY Giants

$2690000

28

Seattle Seahawks

$2250000

29

Oakland Raiders

$2150000

30

Detroit Lions

$1840000

31

Carolina Panthers

$1070000

32

NY Jets

$960000

Team-by-team salary cap numbers, if there were a salary cap

Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on September 19, 2010, 10:43 AM EST

On Saturday, we mentioned that three teams have committed less than $90 million to player compensation in the uncapped year. Two teams have blown the curve.

Many of you have asked for more information about the expenditures of your favorite teams.

So we’ve got the full list.

And though we don’t want to pick on the Chargers any more than we already have, they’re in the bottom 25 percent in spending — even though they’ve chosen not to spend on left tackle Marcus McNeill and receiver Vincent Jackson.

Redskins: $178.2 million.

Cowboys: $166.5 million.

Saints: $145.0 million.

Vikings: $143.4 million.

Seahawks: $138.8 million.

Jets: $135.7 million.

Packers: $135.3 million.

Raiders: $135.2 million.

Colts: $133.1 million.

Bears: $131.9 million.

Eagles: $131.0 million.

Patriots: $128.8 million.

Giants: $128.6 million.

49ers: $125.9 million.

Dolphins: $123.8 million.

Texans: $123.1 million.

Lions: $122.9 million.

Steelers: $122.9 million.

Browns: $122.8 million.

Ravens: $122.3 million.

Falcons: $118.5 million.

Titans: $118.0 million.

Panthers: $110.9 million.

Rams: $109.1 million.

Chargers: $108.0 million.

Bills: $105.3 million.

Broncos: $102.9 million.

Bengals: $100.8 million.

Cardinals: $97.8 million.

Jaguars: $89.5 million.

Chiefs: $84.5 million.

Buccaneers: $80.8 million.

 
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for ppl suggesting tampa --- what is their history of spending $$, 'cuz I don't think it's very good off the top of my head.
Any owner would be willing to dish out some money if they think it will help their team win a championship. I cant see even the cheapest guys not spend money on a guy like Williams if they think he is the missing piece, which i think Williams could be for that Tampa offense.
this is based on what?

NFL Oakland Raiders Team Salaries $ 152,389,371NFL Dallas Cowboys Team Salaries $ 146,401,600

NFL Minnesota Vikings Team Salaries $ 133,354,045

NFL Cleveland Browns Team Salaries $ 131,916,300

NFL New Orleans Saints Team Salaries $ 131,531,820

NFL Pittsburgh Steelers Team Salaries $ 128,815,061

NFL Tennessee Titans Team Salaries $ 126,017,443

NFL Arizona Cardinals Team Salaries $ 122,110,110

NFL Jacksonville Jaguars Team Salaries $ 122,109,207

NFL Chicago Bears Team Salaries $ 120,065,819

NFL San Francisco 49ers Team Salaries $ 118,766,239

NFL New York Jets Team Salaries $ 116,910,097

NFL St. Louis Rams Team Salaries $ 116,677,660

NFL New York Giants Team Salaries $ 115,816,180

NFL Miami Dolphins Team Salaries $ 114,649,660

NFL Buffalo Bills Team Salaries $ 113,364,927

NFL Carolina Panthers Team Salaries $ 112,114,711

NFL Washington Redskins Team Salaries $ 111,963,684

NFL San Diego Chargers Team Salaries $ 111,813,340

NFL Cincinnati Bengals Team Salaries $ 109,727,880

NFL Philadelphia Eagles Team Salaries $ 109,557,398

NFL Houston Texans Team Salaries $ 108,445,418

NFL Tampa Bay Buccaneers Team Salaries $ 104,329,311

NFL Seattle Seahawks Team Salaries $ 102,985,710

NFL Atlanta Falcons Team Salaries $ 96,391,525

NFL Detroit Lions Team Salaries $ 95,827,117

NFL Denver Broncos Team Salaries $ 95,599,778

NFL Green Bay Packers Team Salaries $ 94,018,300

NFL Indianapolis Colts Team Salaries $ 93,373,915

NFL New England Patriots Team Salaries $ 92,734,120

NFL Baltimore Ravens Team Salaries $ 90,713,965

NFL Kansas City Chiefs Team Salaries $ 83,623,776
Common sense
 
usually people like to dress their imagination up as 'common sense' when they've got nothing to support it with.

looking at those lists 'common sense' indicates just the opposite of what you're posting.

 
usually people like to dress their imagination up as 'common sense' when they've got nothing to support it with.looking at those lists 'common sense' indicates just the opposite of what you're posting.
I have to assume that if an owner thought he is a good RB away from a deep playoff run, he would consider signing that RB. It might even help make that owner some money. Seems like common sense to me. Posts all the lists you want, it doesnt prove anything.
 
usually people like to dress their imagination up as 'common sense' when they've got nothing to support it with.

looking at those lists 'common sense' indicates just the opposite of what you're posting.
I have to assume that if an owner thought he is a good RB away from a deep playoff run, he would consider signing that RB. It might even help make that owner some money. Seems like common sense to me. Posts all the lists you want, it doesnt prove anything.
now we've gotten to the bottom of this.edit: btw, you don't ever have to make assumptions.

 
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what about seattle? marshawn lynch has been awful. they could cut him, and then sign williams.
Lynch has been bad, and so has the offensive line and the rest of the offense. They have much bigger needs, and i cant see them going after a RB that will only give them a couple more years. I also dont see Willimas playing for a non-contender either.
Lynch is exactly why I dont see the Packers going after Williams. Many fans wanted Lynch because he would save the running game. The real issue is that 3 of the lineman are not real good at run blocking and there are no holes. Williams would have the same problem next year as a Packer unless the replace some starting linemen.Indy doesnt seem like the spot Peyton loves Addai for what he does in blitz pick up and the short passing game.Washington might be interesting with the money they throw around. Cardinals might get interested if the decide that Wells is a lost cause. Tampa Bay seems to love Blount, so I dont see them going all out to get him.
I disagree. If someone with the talent of Grant can put up 1200 yards seasons at 4 yards a clip I'd love to see what someone with Williams' talent can do. Yeah GB run block isn't great but it's not terrible either.
Williams get slightly better the amount of yards that Grant does for two reasons.1. Running game is the third option in the Packer game plans. First and second options are passing.2. The line as it stands now is very average at run blocling. Clifton is having his best year at run blocking according to people in the NFL. College and Wells are up and down game to game.Factor in that Ted doenst spend a lot of money on free agents it is very unlikely that Williams comes to Green Bay. Grant might not be back because of his contract next year also. IF the line produces holes both Jackson and Starks have been able to keep the defense honest. This is the reason the Packers didnt over pay for Lynch.Williams is very talented and would be better served to a team that wants the ball at least 50% or more during a game.
 
usually people like to dress their imagination up as 'common sense' when they've got nothing to support it with.

looking at those lists 'common sense' indicates just the opposite of what you're posting.
I have to assume that if an owner thought he is a good RB away from a deep playoff run, he would consider signing that RB. It might even help make that owner some money. Seems like common sense to me. Posts all the lists you want, it doesnt prove anything.
now we've gotten to the bottom of this.edit: btw, you don't ever have to make assumptions.
The guy is just stating his opinion. Why take so much exception?Any cap numbers are fluid with player movement, no?

The Colts might make the best landing spot from a fantasy perspective. Polian doesn't miss many but seems to have overrated Donald Brown. I'll throw out the Patriots as another possibility. Seems to be their MO - signing a veteran RB. (Dillon, Taylor)

 
I'll throw out the Patriots as another possibility. Seems to be their MO - signing a veteran RB. (Dillon, Taylor)
Not really - they got those guys for cheap. That is NE's MO - get guys at great value, and don't overspend at any position (except QB). That is why they let so many players go. I don't see Williams going anywhere cheap.
 
As vanilla as BJGE has been for NE, his numbers have been solid. 309 career carries, 1317 rushing yards, 17 TD with a 4.3 ypc. Adding in his his modest receiving totals and he's had 325 touches without a fumble. He cost only $477K this year and the Pats retain his rights for next year.

Woodhead has over 900 yards from scrimmage and scored 6 TD this season. He only cost $573K this year and is signed for 2 more seasons. Between these two, NE has seen almost 2000 yards of production and 18 TD this year for a total of about $1 million. They should have both these guys back without shelling out much more than they did this year.

So I don't see NE making a splash in free agency for a RB (although they will probably draft someone they think fits their system but probably not early in the draft).

 
Deangelo Williams will most likely leave carolina after this year. Even with out him they will still have the best running game in the NFL. Stewart will be a star, and Goodson is a top 25 back in the NFL, and Tyrell Sutton has great potential, look at this highlight clip

Oh, that's how you evaluate the running game. I always used rushing stats. I feel DW has peaked and is on his way down. Buyer beware!
 
The Colts might make the best landing spot from a fantasy perspective. Polian doesn't miss many but seems to have overrated Donald Brown. I'll throw out the Patriots as another possibility. Seems to be their MO - signing a veteran RB. (Dillon, Taylor)
like that guy above said, the pats aren't going to spend this kind of money on a rb.they don't value the position, in terms of dollars, and they've already got bjge ---- they simply can't really afford him because other positions eat the money.and I'd probably throw the colts in with the pats --- I doubt it.I'd just make the easy guesses that they keep him, or he goes to the usual suspects --- he's not even ufa right now, is he?maybe cincy if they let benson go, miami, or washington, if they cut portis.
 
Lots of speculation, my views on the big ones mentioned:

-Green Bay - Thompson doesn't spend much on FA's. They didn't make any moves when Grant went down and he's back next year. The offense runs thru Rodgers and the running game questions seem more like blocking issues. So I think this is an unlikely destination.

-New Orleans - what are they going to do with Reggie? They refused to re-sign Pierre (gave him a low tender) or renegotiate Bush's contract this past offseason. I think they let Pierre walk and use Ivory & Bush (for his last season) in tandem. Can't see them spending $$ on a FA when they won't spend $$ on their current guys.

-Tampa - The Glazers are cheapskates as well as losing money hand over fist with Manchester U. Blount has emerged and despite his shortcomings, he makes obtaining a fulltime back less of an issue. Can't see this one either.

-Indy - hard to say how they feel about their RB's. Everyone outside the organization is down on Brown, but he's barely played while injured and who knows how they feel about him? Addai could be cheap to resign. They've spent 2 first rounders in the recent years on RB's and both have been disappointments, so then again maybe they would want a FA instead? I could see them signing someone other than Addai to go with Brown, but this is a team that runs thru Peyton and the passing game. Their short yardage dink & dunk offense IS their running game. Actual rushing the ball is an after-thought. If that's the case, why spend huge $$ amts on a RB? Especially when they have big issues on defense.

- New England - always the true wild card. They may see this as a chance at Corey Dillon 2.0. Or they may feel they are perfectly fine running the hodgepodge of backs they have been doing the last few years. Who knows?

 
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The Colts might make the best landing spot from a fantasy perspective. Polian doesn't miss many but seems to have overrated Donald Brown. I'll throw out the Patriots as another possibility. Seems to be their MO - signing a veteran RB. (Dillon, Taylor)
like that guy above said, the pats aren't going to spend this kind of money on a rb.they don't value the position, in terms of dollars, and they've already got bjge ---- they simply can't really afford him because other positions eat the money.and I'd probably throw the colts in with the pats --- I doubt it.I'd just make the easy guesses that they keep him, or he goes to the usual suspects --- he's not even ufa right now, is he?maybe cincy if they let benson go, miami, or washington, if they cut portis.
I dont think cincy will pay him since they are a far way from contending. They need to focus on other positions, and maybe take a daniel thomas in the 4th round to go with Bernard Scott.
 

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