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Death of Theaters? Warner Bros To Stream 2021 Lineup On HBO Max (1 Viewer)

Yeah, for those who haven't seen WW84, don't bother. I was pleasantly surprised by the first movie, but not this turd fest. Yeesh, horrible all the way around. 

 
I liked it - but you have to appreciate they are not going for standard comic movie fare.  It’s a better movie than it is a comic book movie.

 
I liked it - but you have to appreciate they are not going for standard comic movie fare.  It’s a better movie than it is a comic book movie.
I have a hard time imagining how the guy portraying the villain was going for anything other than over-the-top comic book villain.

 
I don't get the hate.  Was it as good as the first absolutely not.  But is was no worse than half the other comic book movies :shrug:

 
I don't buy into the notion that we will have a "new normal".  

I cannot wait to go back to movie theaters, concerts, sporting events.  And I believe most people want to get back to normal.  The ones who think all those things are a bad idea moving forward can choose to not go.

 
Finally got max set up. Will watch WW based on the awesome trailer and the presence of Pascal. Expectations low, joint rolled, I expect to be entertained enough for the purchase price of $0. 

 
I don't get the hate.  Was it as good as the first absolutely not.  But is was no worse than half the other comic book movies :shrug:
It was closer to the almost 20 year old Toby Maguire Spider-Man’s. Compared to the original WW and any of the modern Marvel movies, it’s way worse. Not even close. Even the first Captain America was way better. Not saying it was bad but that was the first MCU movie and they got better.

I would put WW84 in the Hulk movies and Suicide Squad bucket. I think I enjoyed Justice League way more and that was meh.

 
I think people would have preferred they use the cookie cutter mold of super hero movies.
Just because you liked it doesn’t mean we all wanted the Avengers. WW was great. WW84 was not nearly as good. Feel free to tell us why it was less formulaic and new than MCU movies or WW. What new ground did it break and do it well?

Actually, if you could just explain how the main villain thought of going to the guy (trying to not spoil) for a non-traditional way to help his business and why, given what that guy knew about the past, would he help the villain, that would be appreciated. The others went to that guy to get the details but he quickly disappeared so viewers didn’t have time to wonder.

 
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Just because you liked it doesn’t mean we all wanted the Avengers. WW was great. WW84 was not nearly as good. Feel free to tell us why it was less formulaic and new than MCU movies or WW. What new ground did it break and do it well?

Actually, if you could just explain how the main villain thought of going to the guy (trying to not spoil) for a non-traditional way to help his business and why, given what that guy knew about the past, would he help the villain, that would be appreciated. The others went to that guy to get the details but he quickly disappeared so viewers didn’t have time to wonder.
The whole movie was about Diana’s character.  The love affair, the resolution to the love affair, the priority she placed on others well being, the inspiration at the end, etc.  Jenkins is shooting for something more than a good guy bad guy movie.  A large chunk of it was closer to a Bond movie.

not avoiding your spoiler free question, just not following it

and not stating that I loved it - I appreciate the effort and how it played out

 
Think I’ve seen one movie in the theater since Covid ended, or whatever/however you want to phrase it. Spider-Man, which was pretty good and I enjoyed. Meant to see top gun but never got there which I regret.

I definitely just wait these mediocre movies out and see them at home now. Saves a little money which isn’t really a big deal but more importantly I don’t have to be around a bunch of obnoxious people which seemingly was getting worse.

I did want to go see avatar but again never got around to it. Just not a priority for us anymore. Maybe when my son is a little older we will go back more? We are taking him to the Mario movie in April, he’s out of his mind excited for that.
 
I'm sure this will be an unpopular opinion, but I'm not sure what AMC is doing is so bad. Concerts, live theaters, airplanes - all do this. Is it that big of a deal? Maybe we want our movie theaters to be more egalitarian? My first reaction is its not a huge deal, but I'm willing to be convinced otherwise.

Also, I love going to the movies. I think the experience is a lot better than watching at home. Its been pretty disappointing to me the last couple of years that there are so few movies actually coming out in theaters.
 
I'm sure this will be an unpopular opinion, but I'm not sure what AMC is doing is so bad. Concerts, live theaters, airplanes - all do this. Is it that big of a deal? Maybe we want our movie theaters to be more egalitarian? My first reaction is its not a huge deal, but I'm willing to be convinced otherwise.
I can see your point if... IF... they somehow manage to do this right - meaning they reduce the price of the less desirable seats. I'm doubtful they will though. I bet they increase the price of the good seats.

It's like the Postal Service to me - their solution to bleeding customers seems to always be to raise prices.
 
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I'm sure this will be an unpopular opinion, but I'm not sure what AMC is doing is so bad. Concerts, live theaters, airplanes - all do this. Is it that big of a deal? Maybe we want our movie theaters to be more egalitarian? My first reaction is its not a huge deal, but I'm willing to be convinced otherwise.

Also, I love going to the movies. I think the experience is a lot better than watching at home. Its been pretty disappointing to me the last couple of years that there are so few movies actually coming out in theaters.
If I want to see something at the theater I'm willing to pay for it. An extra $2 for prime seats isn't going to make a difference.

February 24 I'm going to be at Cocaine Bear no matter what.
 
Movie theatres already have pricing tiers. I can pay anywhere from $10 to $25 based on what I want. Recliners, seats that shake, size of screen, 3D, high-frame rate, different types of sound. Lots of different options now. I assume they will charge more for the middle seats which is fine by me. I always get the aisle seats cause I inevitably have to pee half way through the movie.
 
AMC Theaters doing their part to kill of their business and the moviegoing experience...

Introducing.... Tiered pricing! Pay more based on where you sit!

Plebians on the periphery, patricians in the center of you please.
Good thing AMC sucks already. Haven't been to one in 10 years probably.
Our AMCs are phenomenal. Full recliner, assigned seating , I thought they already did premium seating but I guess not.

Once they switched to assigned seats it was a game changer. Stroll in as the previews are rolling. No need to lineup and get there early for a good seat

That being said. I've probably been to 4 movies the last 6 years lol
 
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I'm sure this will be an unpopular opinion, but I'm not sure what AMC is doing is so bad. Concerts, live theaters, airplanes - all do this. Is it that big of a deal? Maybe we want our movie theaters to be more egalitarian? My first reaction is its not a huge deal, but I'm willing to be convinced otherwise.

Also, I love going to the movies. I think the experience is a lot better than watching at home. Its been pretty disappointing to me the last couple of years that there are so few movies actually coming out in theaters.
If I want to see something at the theater I'm willing to pay for it. An extra $2 for prime seats isn't going to make a difference.
Yeah, I’m guessing the core movie-going audience isn’t very price sensitive and a couple bucks here or there isn’t going to get the masses coming back regularly anyway. I’ve been to one post-Covid movie and it was pretty depressing how few people were there.
 
It's clear they're up against it and are trying to squeak out money any way they can. Went to Avatar with my son (2nd movie since covid I think, both for the kiddos) and there were I think 8 previews before the movie started, and in between each preview there was a regular TV ad for a lawyer, product, etc. Then after all the previews finally wrapped up there was another big "this showing is brought to you by..." ad. All in all it was over 30 minutes after the scheduled start time by the time we got going....for a 3hr and 15 minute movie.

The kids still like going to the movie and doing the popcorn and candy thing etc. I'd be happy to never go again. I guess the bright side to them becoming less popular is when we do get roped into going it is usually pretty empty so not like we're shoulder to shoulder with strangers chomping away and making noise anymore.
 
AMC Theaters doing their part to kill of their business and the moviegoing experience...

Introducing.... Tiered pricing! Pay more based on where you sit!

Plebians on the periphery, patricians in the center of you please.

I can't remember the exact details, but, don't theaters keep only a mere pittance of ticket sales? I was under the assumption that the studio keeps like 90% of the take and the theater owner makes up his end on concession sales. So not sure if this is just AMC's way to tax the audience with money they can keep, or, why not keep prices as low as possible to get as much popcorn sold as they can.
 
The seat price thing seems weird to me. That’s the kind of thing you do when you have excess demand not when you are having trouble putting people in seats. Concerts, sporting events etc can get away with it because they have more people wanting to go then seats to be filled. Movies are the exact opposite. Like someone else said……if they drop the price of the outer seats then it could make some sense, but you know their plan is to raise the price of the middle seats.
 
theaters are going the way of blockbuster and roller rinks. one of those things some people will hold on to, but no one knows why. why anyone would want that experience nowadays is beyond me.
 
Were AMC seats already reserved seating? If not, I kind of get it but if they were it's just a ******** price hike. Which I don't really care about because I think I've been to the theatre 2 times in 5 years.
 
Avatar 2 was worth going to the movies for. Anything else? Meh

I just wait a few months to see the MCU movies on Disney+ now
 
Think I’ve seen one movie in the theater since Covid ended, or whatever/however you want to phrase it. Spider-Man, which was pretty good and I enjoyed. Meant to see top gun but never got there which I regret.

I definitely just wait these mediocre movies out and see them at home now. Saves a little money which isn’t really a big deal but more importantly I don’t have to be around a bunch of obnoxious people which seemingly was getting worse.

I did want to go see avatar but again never got around to it. Just not a priority for us anymore. Maybe when my son is a little older we will go back more? We are taking him to the Mario movie in April, he’s out of his mind excited for that.
Before kids, my wife and I would see all kinds of movies because let’s be honest, we had a lot of time for everything. After kids, I’d take the boys to almost every Star Wars/Marvel/similar movie. Since COVID and with all the streaming options we’ve seen a handful of the big movies. Since movies come out on the streaming services I wouldn’t bother seeing anything that’s not a marquee/great reviewed movie. My sons have gone to a few without me but I waited for Black Widow and Shang Chi. I went to Black Panther 2 with the boys.

The movies are expensive now so I’m not going unless it’s reviewed well and better on a huge screen and unfortunately there’s not a lot of that outside the tent pole movies.
 
I'm sure this will be an unpopular opinion, but I'm not sure what AMC is doing is so bad. Concerts, live theaters, airplanes - all do this. Is it that big of a deal? Maybe we want our movie theaters to be more egalitarian? My first reaction is its not a huge deal, but I'm willing to be convinced otherwise.
I can see your point if... IF... they somehow manage to do this right - meaning they reduce the price of the less desirable seats. I'm doubtful they will though. I bet they increase the price of the good seats.

It's like the Postal Service to me - their solution to bleeding customers seems to always be to raise prices.
You know the outside seats will not go down. That’s the way it’s marketed but it’ll just be more premiums.
 
AMC can do their pricing however they want. My home has better seating than any of their theaters, and I'm happy to wait for stuff to show up on streaming services. It's not like there's a shortage of media to consume these days.
There is so much content now that it’s easy to just wait for streaming. I like the movie experience for blockbusters but nothing else. Not going to movies pays for my streaming.
 
What happens first... AMC makes like Netfilx and quickly reverses course or makes like Blockbuster and rides off into bankruptcy?
 
I will say after I upgraded everything in my basement big screen/7.2 sound that really lowered my desire to go to a theater

This. Built a 7.1 home theater in a dedicated room in the basement and love it. However I will never be able to beat screen size of a theater so on occasion I'll still go. However, I went to watch Maverick on IMAX because people said it was great in that format. It was certainly a great move, and looked good on the IMAX, but when I got to watch it again in my home theater I found that was a better experience. The audio was better and the extra screen size, even IMAX size, didn't make a significant difference. So now I'm not sure what's gonna draw me to a theater in the future.
 
theaters are going the way of blockbuster and roller rinks. one of those things some people will hold on to, but no one knows why. why anyone would want that experience nowadays is beyond me.
Maybe but movie ticket sales have been doing very well recently. Avatar 2 just became the 4th highest grossing movie of all time, A Man Called Otto and Megan were kind of surprise hits. Puss in Boots at $370 million. I think the current projection for 2023 is 8-9 Billion. Obviously with COVID, theaters took a huge hit. Before that, there wasn't any real indication of slowing down. Looking at bigger trends, it seems like theater sales will drop off from 2019 levels but it's not the apocalypse like the last couple years looked. The streaming world is in every bit as much chaos right now. The story of 2022 was streaming companies are mostly losing their *** and investors have gotten impatient leading to changes in leadership, philosophies and many many jobs cut. At this point I think every streamer is just trying to hold on long enough to be able to buy out/merge with other streamers so they can survive longterm.
 

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