Define the Deep South... (1 Viewer)

[cstu]

South of Oklahoma, Arkansas, Tennesse, and North Carolina.

ETA: Excluding the coasts and big cities.

 

[Tennessee_ATO]

My

Mississippi/Alabama is the dirty south, which I believe is the core of the deep south.

Extending outward, the deep south includes sections of Louisiana along the MS border, as well as an enlarged southeastern Tennessee quadrant (to include Nashville and Knoxville).

East Tennessee and Alabama/Mississippi have exactly nothing in common except being SEC country. East Tennessee was never cotton country, was not a big slavery area by the mid-19th century, and has always been rugged Appalachian country -- completely culturally different than AL, MS, etc. West TN is Deep South -- flat cotton country where slavery was deeply embedded in the culture. Even now West TN and East TN are remarkably different geographically, culturally, politically, and demographically.

Memphis is considered the largest city in 3 states: TN by geography and MS and AR by culture and proximity.

 

[GoFishTN]

My

Mississippi/Alabama is the dirty south, which I believe is the core of the deep south.

Extending outward, the deep south includes sections of Louisiana along the MS border, as well as an enlarged southeastern Tennessee quadrant (to include Nashville and Knoxville).

East Tennessee and Alabama/Mississippi have exactly nothing in common except being SEC country. East Tennessee was never cotton country, was not a big slavery area by the mid-19th century, and has always been rugged Appalachian country -- completely culturally different than AL, MS, etc. West TN is Deep South -- flat cotton country where slavery was deeply embedded in the culture. Even now West TN and East TN are remarkably different geographically, culturally, politically, and demographically.

Memphis is considered the largest city in 3 states: TN by geography and MS and AR by culture and proximity.

 

[GoFishTN]

To me one of the main characteristics of a Deep South state would be a large African American population. So Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi, Louisiana, and South Carolina.

 

[Mister CIA]

My

Mississippi/Alabama is the dirty south, which I believe is the core of the deep south.

Extending outward, the deep south includes sections of Louisiana along the MS border, as well as an enlarged southeastern Tennessee quadrant (to include Nashville and Knoxville).

East Tennessee and Alabama/Mississippi have exactly nothing in common except being SEC country. East Tennessee was never cotton country, was not a big slavery area by the mid-19th century, and has always been rugged Appalachian country -- completely culturally different than AL, MS, etc. West TN is Deep South -- flat cotton country where slavery was deeply embedded in the culture. Even now West TN and East TN are remarkably different geographically, culturally, politically, and demographically.

Memphis is considered the largest city in 3 states: TN by geography and MS and AR by culture and proximity.

Okie doke, if you say so: West Tennessee is Deep South (and not deep Midwest) and East Tennessee is not. I'm not going to debate indignant hillbilly.

 

[Tennessee_ATO]

My

Mississippi/Alabama is the dirty south, which I believe is the core of the deep south.

Extending outward, the deep south includes sections of Louisiana along the MS border, as well as an enlarged southeastern Tennessee quadrant (to include Nashville and Knoxville).

East Tennessee and Alabama/Mississippi have exactly nothing in common except being SEC country. East Tennessee was never cotton country, was not a big slavery area by the mid-19th century, and has always been rugged Appalachian country -- completely culturally different than AL, MS, etc. West TN is Deep South -- flat cotton country where slavery was deeply embedded in the culture. Even now West TN and East TN are remarkably different geographically, culturally, politically, and demographically.Memphis is considered the largest city in 3 states: TN by geography and MS and AR by culture and proximity.

Okie doke, if you say so: West Tennessee is Deep South (and not deep Midwest) and East Tennessee is not. I'm not going to debate indignant hillbilly.

Wow. That escalated quickly. Most people who have never been to TN don't understand its makeup. When Bud decided to bolt Houston early because the locals had turned their back on the lame duck franchise, he thought a 2-year stay in memphis before the stadium in Nashville was finished was the thing to do. Everyone in Middle TN knew that was a mistake. Memphis hates Nashville. 28,000 folks in a 62,000 seat stadium ain't pretty. So he quickly moved to Vandy -- a 40,000 seat stadium that was so bad he needed special permission from the NFL and NFLPA to play there.

Culturally West TN is where the rednecks are. East TN is where the hillbillies are.

Edit: Stupid phone.

 

[GoFishTN]

My

Mississippi/Alabama is the dirty south, which I believe is the core of the deep south.

Extending outward, the deep south includes sections of Louisiana along the MS border, as well as an enlarged southeastern Tennessee quadrant (to include Nashville and Knoxville).

East Tennessee and Alabama/Mississippi have exactly nothing in common except being SEC country. East Tennessee was never cotton country, was not a big slavery area by the mid-19th century, and has always been rugged Appalachian country -- completely culturally different than AL, MS, etc. West TN is Deep South -- flat cotton country where slavery was deeply embedded in the culture. Even now West TN and East TN are remarkably different geographically, culturally, politically, and demographically.

Memphis is considered the largest city in 3 states: TN by geography and MS and AR by culture and proximity.

Okie doke, if you say so: West Tennessee is Deep South (and not deep Midwest) and East Tennessee is not. I'm not going to debate indignant hillbilly.

Why are yankees so rude?

 

[Binky The Doormat]

Snuffy Smith is your neighbor

Very good friend of mine. No ####.

 

[Mister CIA]

My

Mississippi/Alabama is the dirty south, which I believe is the core of the deep south.

Extending outward, the deep south includes sections of Louisiana along the MS border, as well as an enlarged southeastern Tennessee quadrant (to include Nashville and Knoxville).

East Tennessee and Alabama/Mississippi have exactly nothing in common except being SEC country. East Tennessee was never cotton country, was not a big slavery area by the mid-19th century, and has always been rugged Appalachian country -- completely culturally different than AL, MS, etc. West TN is Deep South -- flat cotton country where slavery was deeply embedded in the culture. Even now West TN and East TN are remarkably different geographically, culturally, politically, and demographically.

Memphis is considered the largest city in 3 states: TN by geography and MS and AR by culture and proximity.

Okie doke, if you say so: West Tennessee is Deep South (and not deep Midwest) and East Tennessee is not. I'm not going to debate indignant hillbilly.

Why are yankees so rude?

YOU LIE !!

 

[Binky The Doormat]

any state where the average number of teeth per mouth is roughly equal to the number of children per household.

yeah well SE Ohio and WVA may very well lead that pack.

 

[RnR]

FWIW, he's right on the East Tennessee/West Tennessee distinction. We could add a Middle Tennessee demographic into things as well, but that's probably too complex for this discussion.

 

[Mister CIA]

My

Mississippi/Alabama is the dirty south, which I believe is the core of the deep south.

Extending outward, the deep south includes sections of Louisiana along the MS border, as well as an enlarged southeastern Tennessee quadrant (to include Nashville and Knoxville).

East Tennessee and Alabama/Mississippi have exactly nothing in common except being SEC country. East Tennessee was never cotton country, was not a big slavery area by the mid-19th century, and has always been rugged Appalachian country -- completely culturally different than AL, MS, etc. West TN is Deep South -- flat cotton country where slavery was deeply embedded in the culture. Even now West TN and East TN are remarkably different geographically, culturally, politically, and demographically.Memphis is considered the largest city in 3 states: TN by geography and MS and AR by culture and proximity.

Okie doke, if you say so: West Tennessee is Deep South (and not deep Midwest) and East Tennessee is not. I'm not going to debate indignant hillbilly.

Wow. That escalated quickly.Most people who have never been to TN don't understand its makeup. When Bud decided to bolt Houston early because the locals had turned their back on the lame duck franchise, he thought a 2-year stay in memphis before the stadium in Nashville was finished was the thing to do. Everyone in Middle TN knew that was a mistake. Memphis hates Nashville. 28,000 folks in a 62,000 seat stadium ain't pretty. So he quickly moved to Vandy -- a 40,000 seat stadium that was so bad he needed special permission from the NFL and NFLPA to play there.

Culturally West TN is where the rednecks are. East TN is where the hillbillies are.

Edit: Stupid phone.

I could have sworn I distinguished between western and eastern Tennessee in my original post.

To add:

Eastern Tennessee - Better natural scenery

Western Tennessee - Better music

 

[Tennessee_ATO]

any state where the average number of teeth per mouth is roughly equal to the number of children per household.

yeah well SE Ohio and WVA may very well lead that pack.

Add Western PA to that list too. West Opennsyltucky, baby. Not Deep South, but it's something that's for damn sure.

 

[dickey moe]

New Orleans is 2 feet below sea level that's pretty deep.

That's low.

 

[RedmondLonghorn]

Houston isn't in the Deep South. Arguable whether it is even really in "the South" at all. But if you cross the Houston Ship Channel and head East on I-10, you are in the South very quickly.

 

[Tennessee_ATO]

My

Mississippi/Alabama is the dirty south, which I believe is the core of the deep south.

Extending outward, the deep south includes sections of Louisiana along the MS border, as well as an enlarged southeastern Tennessee quadrant (to include Nashville and Knoxville).

East Tennessee and Alabama/Mississippi have exactly nothing in common except being SEC country. East Tennessee was never cotton country, was not a big slavery area by the mid-19th century, and has always been rugged Appalachian country -- completely culturally different than AL, MS, etc. West TN is Deep South -- flat cotton country where slavery was deeply embedded in the culture. Even now West TN and East TN are remarkably different geographically, culturally, politically, and demographically.Memphis is considered the largest city in 3 states: TN by geography and MS and AR by culture and proximity.

Okie doke, if you say so: West Tennessee is Deep South (and not deep Midwest) and East Tennessee is not. I'm not going to debate indignant hillbilly.

Wow. That escalated quickly.Most people who have never been to TN don't understand its makeup. When Bud decided to bolt Houston early because the locals had turned their back on the lame duck franchise, he thought a 2-year stay in memphis before the stadium in Nashville was finished was the thing to do. Everyone in Middle TN knew that was a mistake. Memphis hates Nashville. 28,000 folks in a 62,000 seat stadium ain't pretty. So he quickly moved to Vandy -- a 40,000 seat stadium that was so bad he needed special permission from the NFL and NFLPA to play there.

Culturally West TN is where the rednecks are. East TN is where the hillbillies are.

Edit: Stupid phone.

I could have sworn I distinguished between western and eastern Tennessee in my original post.To add:

Eastern Tennessee - Better natural scenery

Western Tennessee - Better music

You did, but you lumped the mountainous area with the scenery in with the flat cotton country of AL and MS. East TN is way more like Western VA and Western NC. I'm not saying it's some bastion of enlightenment and sophistication, it's just nothing like the Deep South.

Interestingly (to me anyway) is the fact that Fulmer always got bashed for not being able to recruit Memphis, which was "right there in state". Never mind that 7 of the 11 other SEC schools (then, now it's 9 of 13) are closer to Memphis than UT, and 6 (excluding Vandy) are culturally much more similar to Memphis than UT.

 

[Mister CIA]

My

Mississippi/Alabama is the dirty south, which I believe is the core of the deep south.

Extending outward, the deep south includes sections of Louisiana along the MS border, as well as an enlarged southeastern Tennessee quadrant (to include Nashville and Knoxville).

East Tennessee and Alabama/Mississippi have exactly nothing in common except being SEC country. East Tennessee was never cotton country, was not a big slavery area by the mid-19th century, and has always been rugged Appalachian country -- completely culturally different than AL, MS, etc. West TN is Deep South -- flat cotton country where slavery was deeply embedded in the culture. Even now West TN and East TN are remarkably different geographically, culturally, politically, and demographically.Memphis is considered the largest city in 3 states: TN by geography and MS and AR by culture and proximity.

Okie doke, if you say so: West Tennessee is Deep South (and not deep Midwest) and East Tennessee is not. I'm not going to debate indignant hillbilly.

Wow. That escalated quickly.Most people who have never been to TN don't understand its makeup. When Bud decided to bolt Houston early because the locals had turned their back on the lame duck franchise, he thought a 2-year stay in memphis before the stadium in Nashville was finished was the thing to do. Everyone in Middle TN knew that was a mistake. Memphis hates Nashville. 28,000 folks in a 62,000 seat stadium ain't pretty. So he quickly moved to Vandy -- a 40,000 seat stadium that was so bad he needed special permission from the NFL and NFLPA to play there.

Culturally West TN is where the rednecks are. East TN is where the hillbillies are.

Edit: Stupid phone.

I could have sworn I distinguished between western and eastern Tennessee in my original post.To add:

Eastern Tennessee - Better natural scenery

Western Tennessee - Better music

You did, but you lumped the mountainous area with the scenery in with the flat cotton country of AL and MS. East TN is way more like Western VA and Western NC. I'm not saying it's some bastion of enlightenment and sophistication, it's just nothing like the Deep South.

Interestingly (to me anyway) is the fact that Fulmer always got bashed for not being able to recruit Memphis, which was "right there in state". Never mind that 7 of the 11 other SEC schools (then, now it's 9 of 13) are closer to Memphis than UT, and 6 (excluding Vandy) are culturally much more similar to Memphis than U

I'm so glad we could work together and pinpoint the center of the universe.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

If you have kudzu in your backyard, you might live in the Deep South.

If you hear cicadas in August and think of school starting, you might live in the Deep South.

If you've eaten gator, crawfish or nutria, you might live in the Deep South.

 

[flapgreen]

How about any state where at least 30% of the people claim that flying the "Confederate" flag (in any form) is about "heritage".

Those states don't exist anymore.

 

[SacramentoBob]

Does the deep south penetrate Texas?

Texas is opposed to same state penetration.

You are a resident of the deepest deep South. Please educate us.

Terrible food except for the BBQ. Moved back to the north last summer though. I won't miss it a bit.

 

[RedmondLonghorn]

Does the deep south penetrate Texas?

Texas is opposed to same state penetration.

You are a resident of the deepest deep South. Please educate us.

Terrible food except for the BBQ. Moved back to the north last summer though. I won't miss it a bit.

Where are you now GB?

 

[Jack White]

I recently came back from a trip to the "Deep" South.

Quite frankly, I find these people anything but deep.

I was in West Virgina. This is the kind of place where people read the Sunday comics with a yellow highlighter, in case they stumble upon a particularly meaningful passage in Beetle Bailey.

I went to my first square dance in West Virginia. Here's an activity I don't get nearly enough of, huh? I go out to dance, I go to express myself. These people are into being ordered around the floor by some neo-fascist Sam Drucker, some bizarre BF Skinner hoedown.

 

[BobbyLayne]

If your state seceded BEFORE Sumter, you might be living in the Deep South. FL gets an exemption, the other six are no doubt about it states.

 

[RedmondLonghorn]

I recently came back from a trip to the "Deep" South.

Quite frankly, I find these people anything but deep.

I was in West Virgina. This is the kind of place where people read the Sunday comics with a yellow highlighter, in case they stumble upon a particularly meaningful passage in Beetle Bailey.

I went to my first square dance in West Virginia. Here's an activity I don't get nearly enough of, huh? I go out to dance, I go to express myself. These people are into being ordered around the floor by some neo-fascist Sam Drucker, some bizarre BF Skinner hoedown.

West Virginia ain't the Deep South. Not by anybody's definition.

 

[BobbyLayne]

I recently came back from a trip to the "Deep" South.

Quite frankly, I find these people anything but deep.

I was in West Virgina. This is the kind of place where people read the Sunday comics with a yellow highlighter, in case they stumble upon a particularly meaningful passage in Beetle Bailey.

I went to my first square dance in West Virginia. Here's an activity I don't get nearly enough of, huh? I go out to dance, I go to express myself. These people are into being ordered around the floor by some neo-fascist Sam Drucker, some bizarre BF Skinner hoedown.

Hill country ain't the Deep South. KY-TN-WV got plenty of hillbillies but that's not the same thing.

 

[TheIronSheik]

I recently came back from a trip to the "Deep" South.

Quite frankly, I find these people anything but deep.

I was in West Virgina. This is the kind of place where people read the Sunday comics with a yellow highlighter, in case they stumble upon a particularly meaningful passage in Beetle Bailey.

I went to my first square dance in West Virginia. Here's an activity I don't get nearly enough of, huh? I go out to dance, I go to express myself. These people are into being ordered around the floor by some neo-fascist Sam Drucker, some bizarre BF Skinner hoedown.

West Virginia ain't the Deep South. Not by anybody's definition.

Well. By mine it is. It is both west and south of Philly.

 

[Joe Summer]

The Deep South is a state of mind.

 

[GoFishTN]

I recently came back from a trip to the "Deep" South.

Quite frankly, I find these people anything but deep.

I was in West Virgina. This is the kind of place where people read the Sunday comics with a yellow highlighter, in case they stumble upon a particularly meaningful passage in Beetle Bailey.

I went to my first square dance in West Virginia. Here's an activity I don't get nearly enough of, huh? I go out to dance, I go to express myself. These people are into being ordered around the floor by some neo-fascist Sam Drucker, some bizarre BF Skinner hoedown.

West Virginia was a Union state. All yours GB.

 

[Joe Summer]

I recently came back from a trip to the "Deep" South.

Quite frankly, I find these people anything but deep.

I was in West Virgina. This is the kind of place where people read the Sunday comics with a yellow highlighter, in case they stumble upon a particularly meaningful passage in Beetle Bailey.

I went to my first square dance in West Virginia. Here's an activity I don't get nearly enough of, huh? I go out to dance, I go to express myself. These people are into being ordered around the floor by some neo-fascist Sam Drucker, some bizarre BF Skinner hoedown.

West Virginia was a Union state. All yours GB.

"detailed studies have concluded that there were nearly equal numbers of Union and Confederate soldiers."

 

[fantasycurse42]

The Deep South is a state of mind.

I agree with this, hence:

I'm not looking for a Wiki answer here, more so what comes to mind when you think of the deep south, and which states would you associate with this?

 

[Clifford]

I'm not looking for a Wiki answer here, more so what comes to mind when you think of the deep south, and which states would you associate with this?

From Alabama so I think I have some expertise here.

Characteristics:

Deep-rooted allegiance to Confederacy, poverty, religion essentially runs government at state level, openly racist (except politicians and hipsters), family and ancestry still runs deep and really matters, little hope for improvement or progress

States:

Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Tennessee, South Carolina, Louisiana

On the edge:

North Carolina (leaning too successful and hopeful)

South but not Deep South:

Virginia, Kentucky (Virginia too rich, political; Kentucky doesn't have Confederacy bona fides)

Kinda South:

Arkansas (hill people)

Something else entirely:

Florida (WTF)

 

[Clifford]

Does the deep south penetrate Texas?

No, Texas has nothing to do with the South

 

[Tennessee_ATO]

I recently came back from a trip to the "Deep" South.

Quite frankly, I find these people anything but deep.

I was in West Virgina. This is the kind of place where people read the Sunday comics with a yellow highlighter, in case they stumble upon a particularly meaningful passage in Beetle Bailey.

I went to my first square dance in West Virginia. Here's an activity I don't get nearly enough of, huh? I go out to dance, I go to express myself. These people are into being ordered around the floor by some neo-fascist Sam Drucker, some bizarre BF Skinner hoedown.

West Virginia was a Union state. All yours GB.

"detailed studies have concluded that there were nearly equal numbers of Union and Confederate soldiers."

West Virginia soldiery numbers in the Civil War have never been reliable. If I remember my Civil War history right, I think both the Confederacy and the Union drafted soldiers out of West Virginia. Either way, there's no dispute that West Virginia seceded from Virginia because Virginia seceded from the Union and because Richmond and the agricultural low country didn't really give much of a rat's ### about the mountain country.

 

[Clifford]

I recently came back from a trip to the "Deep" South.

Quite frankly, I find these people anything but deep.

I was in West Virgina. This is the kind of place where people read the Sunday comics with a yellow highlighter, in case they stumble upon a particularly meaningful passage in Beetle Bailey.

I went to my first square dance in West Virginia. Here's an activity I don't get nearly enough of, huh? I go out to dance, I go to express myself. These people are into being ordered around the floor by some neo-fascist Sam Drucker, some bizarre BF Skinner hoedown.

How did you ever come away with the impression that West Virginia was part of the south?

 

[Fennis]

theme song of the thread

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

I recently came back from a trip to the "Deep" South.

Quite frankly, I find these people anything but deep.

I was in West Virgina. This is the kind of place where people read the Sunday comics with a yellow highlighter, in case they stumble upon a particularly meaningful passage in Beetle Bailey.

I went to my first square dance in West Virginia. Here's an activity I don't get nearly enough of, huh? I go out to dance, I go to express myself. These people are into being ordered around the floor by some neo-fascist Sam Drucker, some bizarre BF Skinner hoedown.

West Virginia was a Union state. All yours GB.

"detailed studies have concluded that there were nearly equal numbers of Union and Confederate soldiers."

West Virginia soldiery numbers in the Civil War have never been reliable. If I remember my Civil War history right, I think both the Confederacy and the Union drafted soldiers out of West Virginia. Either way, there's no dispute that West Virginia seceded from Virginia because Virginia seceded from the Union and because Richmond and the agricultural low country didn't really give much of a rat's ### about the mountain country.

This seems about right to me. The southeaster counties were more loyal to Virginia/the Confederacy.

 

[RedmondLonghorn]

I recently came back from a trip to the "Deep" South.

Quite frankly, I find these people anything but deep.

I was in West Virgina. This is the kind of place where people read the Sunday comics with a yellow highlighter, in case they stumble upon a particularly meaningful passage in Beetle Bailey.

I went to my first square dance in West Virginia. Here's an activity I don't get nearly enough of, huh? I go out to dance, I go to express myself. These people are into being ordered around the floor by some neo-fascist Sam Drucker, some bizarre BF Skinner hoedown.

West Virginia was a Union state. All yours GB.

"detailed studies have concluded that there were nearly equal numbers of Union and Confederate soldiers."

West Virginia soldiery numbers in the Civil War have never been reliable. If I remember my Civil War history right, I think both the Confederacy and the Union drafted soldiers out of West Virginia. Either way, there's no dispute that West Virginia seceded from Virginia because Virginia seceded from the Union and because Richmond and the agricultural low country didn't really give much of a rat's ### about the mountain country.

This seems about right to me. The southeaster counties were more loyal to Virginia/the Confederacy.

Establishing that a portion of West Virginia was/is part of the South.

Still not part of the Deep South.

 

[Fennis]

http://wn.com/bugs_bunny_in_Dixie

 

[Thunderlips]

https://fellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/boss_hogg_pigging_out.jpg

 

[17seconds]

Has to be humid and full of swamps. If it looks like you are in Deliverance, you're there.

 

[mrip541]

Everything south of Virginia is the same to me.

 

[Tennessee_ATO]

I recently came back from a trip to the "Deep" South.

Quite frankly, I find these people anything but deep.

I was in West Virgina. This is the kind of place where people read the Sunday comics with a yellow highlighter, in case they stumble upon a particularly meaningful passage in Beetle Bailey.

I went to my first square dance in West Virginia. Here's an activity I don't get nearly enough of, huh? I go out to dance, I go to express myself. These people are into being ordered around the floor by some neo-fascist Sam Drucker, some bizarre BF Skinner hoedown.

West Virginia was a Union state. All yours GB.

"detailed studies have concluded that there were nearly equal numbers of Union and Confederate soldiers."

West Virginia soldiery numbers in the Civil War have never been reliable. If I remember my Civil War history right, I think both the Confederacy and the Union drafted soldiers out of West Virginia. Either way, there's no dispute that West Virginia seceded from Virginia because Virginia seceded from the Union and because Richmond and the agricultural low country didn't really give much of a rat's ### about the mountain country.

This seems about right to me. The southeaster counties were more loyal to Virginia/the Confederacy.

Interesting quick read. Pretty telling numbers from the Wheeling Convention link: 37,451 Virginians voted against secession (against 132,201 for). Of those 37,451 votes, an estimated 34,677 came from counties that would comprise West Virginia, which means 2774 people in modern Virginia voted against secession (against 113,080 for).

Could we fashion any referendum that would get a 97.6% yes vote today?

 

[Koya]

South of the Carolinas including panhandle and northern FLA excluding ATL. Louisiana is sorta it's own thang, too

 

[Idiot Boxer]

any state where the average number of teeth per mouth is roughly equal to the number of children per household.

yeah well SE Ohio and WVA may very well lead that pack.

Add Western PA to that list too. West Opennsyltucky, baby. Not Deep South, but it's something that's for damn sure.

Please.

 

[TheIronSheik]

any state where the average number of teeth per mouth is roughly equal to the number of children per household.

yeah well SE Ohio and WVA may very well lead that pack.

Add Western PA to that list too. West Opennsyltucky, baby. Not Deep South, but it's something that's for damn sure.

I think you're thinking of central PA. East and West PA are pretty good. It's the center of the state that has banjos playing on loop.

 

[Tennessee_ATO]

any state where the average number of teeth per mouth is roughly equal to the number of children per household.

yeah well SE Ohio and WVA may very well lead that pack.

Add Western PA to that list too. West Opennsyltucky, baby. Not Deep South, but it's something that's for damn sure.

Please.

I hail from western PA. My mom's family hails primarily from eastern OH, right on the river. My maternal grandfather's family comes from West Virginia coal country. Lots of Welsh background on my mom's side (both of her parents' families) -- a wee people who were very useful in the coal mines of the region way back when.

I know of which I speak.

 

[Tennessee_ATO]

any state where the average number of teeth per mouth is roughly equal to the number of children per household.

yeah well SE Ohio and WVA may very well lead that pack.

Add Western PA to that list too. West Opennsyltucky, baby. Not Deep South, but it's something that's for damn sure.

I think you're thinking of central PA. East and West PA are pretty good. It's the center of the state that has banjos playing on loop.

Drive 15 minutes outside of Pittsburgh in any direction and let me know what you find. I'm going with mountains, multi-generational poverty, and a history rooted in the Appalachian culture everywhere. I'll give you the field.

 

[The Commish]

Georgia

Alabama

South Carolina

Tennessee

North Carolina

Mississippi

Southern Kentucky

Northern Florida

Louisiana

Then what is the "south east"??

 

[TheIronSheik]

Georgia

Alabama

South Carolina

Tennessee

North Carolina

Mississippi

Southern Kentucky

Northern Florida

Louisiana

Then what is the "south east"??

The Deep South. HTH

 

[Idiot Boxer]

any state where the average number of teeth per mouth is roughly equal to the number of children per household.

yeah well SE Ohio and WVA may very well lead that pack.

Add Western PA to that list too. West Opennsyltucky, baby. Not Deep South, but it's something that's for damn sure.

Please.

I hail from western PA. My mom's family hails primarily from eastern OH, right on the river. My maternal grandfather's family comes from West Virginia coal country. Lots of Welsh background on my mom's side (both of her parents' families) -- a wee people who were very useful in the coal mines of the region way back when.

I know of which I speak.

I grew up there too. The North Hills and South Hills areas - more than 15 minutes outside of Pittsburgh - are very affluent. As is most of all of northern Washington County. There are pockets of poverty, but you've got to be in your 50s and 60s to even vaguely remember a predominance of active coal mining activity.

You knew of which you spoke.