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Deji Karim - 6th Round pick by Jax (1 Viewer)

Moonlight_Graham said:
FavreCo said:
Moonlight_Graham said:
FavreCo said:
I see a possible AFC version of Carolina. 2 RB's sharing carries. Jennings isn't in this guy's league. Wish he would have gone to somewhere like Seattle. As awful as these guys are at passing the ball, maybe they will soon realize it and copy the Panthers 'O'.
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Jennings was considered 1st rd talent by some scouts but fell because of the level of competition he played against. I doubt Karim had that distinction. Why did Karim fall to the 6th Rd?
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Why did JaMarcus Russell get drafted in the 1st round? Because NFL scouts miss as much as Dave Kingman on a fastball down the middle of the plate.
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Big difference. Russell showed he sucked and Jennings shows promise. If Karim doesn't make it on special teams he's probably headed for the practice squad.
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No difference. We are talking BEFORE being drafted. Plenty of experts didn't se the suckage of Russell beforehand.
 
FavreCo said:
Moonlight_Graham said:
FavreCo said:
Moonlight_Graham said:
FavreCo said:
I see a possible AFC version of Carolina. 2 RB's sharing carries. Jennings isn't in this guy's league. Wish he would have gone to somewhere like Seattle. As awful as these guys are at passing the ball, maybe they will soon realize it and copy the Panthers 'O'.
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Jennings was considered 1st rd talent by some scouts but fell because of the level of competition he played against. I doubt Karim had that distinction. Why did Karim fall to the 6th Rd?
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Why did JaMarcus Russell get drafted in the 1st round? Because NFL scouts miss as much as Dave Kingman on a fastball down the middle of the plate.
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Big difference. Russell showed he sucked and Jennings shows promise. If Karim doesn't make it on special teams he's probably headed for the practice squad.
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No difference. We are talking BEFORE being drafted. Plenty of experts didn't se the suckage of Russell beforehand.
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Who cares about BEFORE being drafted. I only care about today.
 
Jennings was considered 1st rd talent by some scouts but fell because of the level of competition he played against. I doubt Karim had that distinction. Why did Karim fall to the 6th Rd?

Why did JaMarcus Russell get drafted in the 1st round? Because NFL scouts miss as much as Dave Kingman on a fastball down the middle of the plate.

Big difference. Russell showed he sucked and Jennings shows promise. If Karim doesn't make it on special teams he's probably headed for the practice squad.

No difference. We are talking BEFORE being drafted. Plenty of experts didn't se the suckage of Russell beforehand.

Who cares about BEFORE being drafted. I only care about today.

Says the guy throwing around shaky '1st round talent' statements supposedly made more than a year ago...

 
identikit said:
Moonlight_Graham said:
identikit said:
Says the guy throwing around shaky '1st round talent' statements supposedly made more than a year ago...
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I never said he was 1st rd talent, some scouts did. I labeled him a 3rd round talent. Others have said 2nd.
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Who cares about BEFORE being drafted. I only care about today. --- Moonlight Graham
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I guess this is where we're both confused about what the other one means. Let me clear it up. Some scouts said he was a 1st rd talent, I said he was a 3rd. He's done well with limited carries so there's no reason for me to believe that he isn't the backup to MDJ. Is that better?
 
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Except for the fact that no actual scout ever said he was a 1st round talent.
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I'm not making that up, I did read it somewhere. It doesn't matter though, because I CAN find where scouts said he was a 2nd or 3rd round talent and I doubt anyone ever said that about Karim. They thought enough of him they didn't invite him to the combine.
 
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I like both Jennings and Karim.

I don't think either of them are worth say Kevin Kolb (what someone said they paid for Jennings earlier in this thread). But they're worth a roster spot for the time being.

 
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JPeso said:
Just spoke with Deji for about an hour on a layover. Really nice guy and knows he won't be given anything in the league. Talked a lot about how he wasn't even given anything it SIU and didn't get his shot until his senior year (240/1694/18 of his career 316/2080/26 came in his senior season). He was fairly surprised his name was called, and thought he'd be fighting for a spot somewhere right now instead of having a team in May. We spoke about Jones-Drew and he conceded what most of us expect - no one is taking the midget off the field. He hopes to make his impact in the return game and be ready if something happens to MJD - he noted that Jennings would likely be the early-down guy, but that he'd like to compete to carve out the third down role.I asked him what he wanted to improve on most this season, and he said not bouncing everything to the outside. From watching what footage I could find on him - that was my major knock, and why I pretty much avoided him in my drafts. The second facet of his game he wants to improve on was pass protection, where he admits his game is lacking. Interestingly enough, Bill Polian was also on our flight. Don't these guys have their own jets?
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This is how he makes money selling dynasties. It's the little things, like stalking rookie 6 rd picks at the airport.
 
Moonlight_Graham said:
FavreCo said:
I see a possible AFC version of Carolina. 2 RB's sharing carries. Jennings isn't in this guy's league. Wish he would have gone to somewhere like Seattle. As awful as these guys are at passing the ball, maybe they will soon realize it and copy the Panthers 'O'.
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Jennings was considered 1st rd talent by some scouts but fell because of the level of competition he played against. I doubt Karim had that distinction. Why did Karim fall to the 6th Rd?
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identikit said:
Jennings was picked in the 7th round (pick 7.41, no less).

I'd say they're in the same neighborhood.
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:confused:
 
Hipple said:
Moonlight_Graham said:
FavreCo said:
I see a possible AFC version of Carolina. 2 RB's sharing carries. Jennings isn't in this guy's league. Wish he would have gone to somewhere like Seattle. As awful as these guys are at passing the ball, maybe they will soon realize it and copy the Panthers 'O'.
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Jennings was considered 1st rd talent by some scouts but fell because of the level of competition he played against. I doubt Karim had that distinction. Why did Karim fall to the 6th Rd?
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identikit said:
Jennings was picked in the 7th round (pick 7.41, no less).

I'd say they're in the same neighborhood.
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Already mentioned the reason he dropped. Look back :banned:
 
identikit said:
I like both Jennings and Karim.I don't think either of them are worth say Kevin Kolb (what someone said they paid for Jennings earlier in this thread). But they're worth a roster spot for the time being.
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:lmao: Both worth rostering for now till it shapes out, not sure why either side would call the other worthless. But trading Kolb for either or both of them is getting fleeced, MJD owner or no MJD owner.
 
Yo, FB Fro; please consider changing this thread title to "Owners Who Want Jennings To Succeed Because They Own Jennings."

:lmao:

 
More from The Q&A: Deji Karim

Posted by jennicarlson on May 1, 2010M at 12:01 am

Sam Bradford wasn’t the only Putnam City North High product to be drafted a week ago.

Deji Karim was selected in the sixth round by the Jacksonville Jaguars. He spent two seasons at Northeastern Oklahoma A&M before transferring to Southern Illinois where he led the Football Championship Subdivision with 1,694 yards rushing last season. Despite that standout senior season, the 5-foot-9, 200-pound running back was bypassed for an invitation to the NFL Combine.

That gave him one shot to impress NFL scouts.

Here’s more from The Q&A with Karim:

JC: You turned scouts’ heads when you went to Northwestern’s pro day. What was that day like for you?

DK: I went down to Florida to train from Jan. 3 through Feb. 27. I didn’t get invited to the combine, so I knew this was the chance that I got to show people what I could do. I didn’t care who was there. I needed to showcase what I could do. While I was training, I was doing stuff down in Florida that my agent wasn’t believing. I had to show him stuff.

JC: Wait. Your agent didn’t believe your times?

DK: He could believe the 40 time, but when he heard that I jumped a 45.5 vertical, he was like, “I don’t believe it.” We had to put it on tape for him. And I did it. I went to Northwestern and did everything. It just all spoke for itself.

JC: It doesn’t sound like you were nervous at all heading into that day.

DK: I was ready. I wasn’t nervous at all. I was ready to get the show on.

JC: The talk out there now is that the Jaguars could use you as a third-down back and a kickoff returner. What are you hearing?

DK: They’re looking for me to be that guy that comes in and is a change-of-pace kind of back. Help up with the running game. Do the kickoff return. I think I can do those things at this level, but I’ve got to keep working hard.
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http://blog.newsok.com/jennicarlson/2010/0...-qa-deji-karim/
 
loose circuits said:
More from The Q&A: Deji Karim

Posted by jennicarlson on May 1, 2010M at 12:01 am

Sam Bradford wasn’t the only Putnam City North High product to be drafted a week ago.

Deji Karim was selected in the sixth round by the Jacksonville Jaguars. He spent two seasons at Northeastern Oklahoma A&M before transferring to Southern Illinois where he led the Football Championship Subdivision with 1,694 yards rushing last season. Despite that standout senior season, the 5-foot-9, 200-pound running back was bypassed for an invitation to the NFL Combine.

That gave him one shot to impress NFL scouts.

Here’s more from The Q&A with Karim:

JC: You turned scouts’ heads when you went to Northwestern’s pro day. What was that day like for you?

DK: I went down to Florida to train from Jan. 3 through Feb. 27. I didn’t get invited to the combine, so I knew this was the chance that I got to show people what I could do. I didn’t care who was there. I needed to showcase what I could do. While I was training, I was doing stuff down in Florida that my agent wasn’t believing. I had to show him stuff.

JC: Wait. Your agent didn’t believe your times?

DK: He could believe the 40 time, but when he heard that I jumped a 45.5 vertical, he was like, “I don’t believe it.” We had to put it on tape for him. And I did it. I went to Northwestern and did everything. It just all spoke for itself.

JC: It doesn’t sound like you were nervous at all heading into that day.

DK: I was ready. I wasn’t nervous at all. I was ready to get the show on.

JC: The talk out there now is that the Jaguars could use you as a third-down back and a kickoff returner. What are you hearing?

DK: They’re looking for me to be that guy that comes in and is a change-of-pace kind of back. Help up with the running game. Do the kickoff return. I think I can do those things at this level, but I’ve got to keep working hard.
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http://blog.newsok.com/jennicarlson/2010/0...-qa-deji-karim/
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for those that care, NEO has put out several elite college players, and some pros. Jereme Shockey is one I remember. Most go there (like other Junior colleges) because of academics more than talent. I do not know about Karim's reasons for going the JC route. I like him and think he is underrated.
 
Jeff Tefertiller said:
loose circuits said:
More from The Q&A: Deji Karim

Posted by jennicarlson on May 1, 2010M at 12:01 am

Sam Bradford wasn’t the only Putnam City North High product to be drafted a week ago.

Deji Karim was selected in the sixth round by the Jacksonville Jaguars. He spent two seasons at Northeastern Oklahoma A&M before transferring to Southern Illinois where he led the Football Championship Subdivision with 1,694 yards rushing last season. Despite that standout senior season, the 5-foot-9, 200-pound running back was bypassed for an invitation to the NFL Combine.

That gave him one shot to impress NFL scouts.

Here’s more from The Q&A with Karim:

JC: You turned scouts’ heads when you went to Northwestern’s pro day. What was that day like for you?

DK: I went down to Florida to train from Jan. 3 through Feb. 27. I didn’t get invited to the combine, so I knew this was the chance that I got to show people what I could do. I didn’t care who was there. I needed to showcase what I could do. While I was training, I was doing stuff down in Florida that my agent wasn’t believing. I had to show him stuff.

JC: Wait. Your agent didn’t believe your times?

DK: He could believe the 40 time, but when he heard that I jumped a 45.5 vertical, he was like, “I don’t believe it.” We had to put it on tape for him. And I did it. I went to Northwestern and did everything. It just all spoke for itself.

JC: It doesn’t sound like you were nervous at all heading into that day.

DK: I was ready. I wasn’t nervous at all. I was ready to get the show on.

JC: The talk out there now is that the Jaguars could use you as a third-down back and a kickoff returner. What are you hearing?

DK: They’re looking for me to be that guy that comes in and is a change-of-pace kind of back. Help up with the running game. Do the kickoff return. I think I can do those things at this level, but I’ve got to keep working hard.
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http://blog.newsok.com/jennicarlson/2010/0...-qa-deji-karim/
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for those that care, NEO has put out several elite college players, and some pros. Jereme Shockey is one I remember. Most go there (like other Junior colleges) because of academics more than talent. I do not know about Karim's reasons for going the JC route. I like him and think he is underrated.
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bad grades. He then fixed that issue and even finished his coursework prior to this last season so he could focus on football
 
JohnnyU said:
Toads said:
Yo, FB Fro; please consider changing this thread title to "Owners Who Want Jennings To Succeed Because They Own Jennings."

:lmao:
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the same could be said for Karim.
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Except, it's a Karim thread.Don't tell me: you are a Karim owner?

 
Posted just for JohnnyU/Moonight Graham...

Getting to know Deji Karim:

Rookie running back Deji Karim has made some players, coaches and a few media members speechless with some of his moves in the club’s OTAs. Karim sat down with jaguars.com this week and allowed a peek inside what he does away from the field.

What’s on your TV now?

Right now it’s the NBA playoffs. That’s pretty much the only thing I can watch once practice is done. Regularly it’s probably SportsCenter.

Favorite NBA team

I’m from Oklahoma City and we just got a NBA team, so I’m a Thunder fan.

Favorite movie

It would probably be The Hangover. It’s a funny movie, and I like comedies. I also like Taken.

Favorite meal

I just like to eat. My parents are from Africa so I like to eat Nigerian food, but down here we don’t have that. I eat pretty much anything.

Dream date

My girlfriend is my dream date.

What are your pet peeves?

I hate when I’m walking out in the hallway and the shoes are squeaking against the floor.

What would you sing if you went on American Idol?

If I went on American Idol they’d be having a horrible show. I like a lot of songs. It would have to be one of Genuine’s songs. Any of them would work.

Any extreme sport you would like to do?

No I’ve seen too much bad stuff happen.

Who is the most influential person in your life?

My mother. She has sickle cell. She might get sick, but she’s always managed to put food on the table and raise three good boys and one daughter. We are all turning into great people. She’s the reason I am who I am today.

Post football plans

I pretty much want to be able to relax wherever I am and work with kids. I graduated in December in recreation. I worked with a lot of kids during internships. Hopefully that will be something I can do in my post football career.

http://www.jaguars.com/news/article.aspx?id=8981

:kicksrock:

 
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Jaguars.com suggests that rookie Deji Karim could be used to "keep (Maurice) Jones-Drew fresh" in a role off the bench.

Karim "could turn out to be one of the sleepers of this year's draft," writes Vic Ketchman. The Jaguars' website is obviously going to talk up its own players, but Jacksonville lacked an explosive, playmaking complement for Jones-Drew last year with Rashad Jennings in the backup role. Karim is talented enough to push Jennings down the depth chart in training camp.

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpag...NFL&id=5853

 
identikit said:
Jaguars.com suggests that rookie Deji Karim could be used to "keep (Maurice) Jones-Drew fresh" in a role off the bench.

Karim "could turn out to be one of the sleepers of this year's draft," writes Vic Ketchman. The Jaguars' website is obviously going to talk up its own players, but Jacksonville lacked an explosive, playmaking complement for Jones-Drew last year with Rashad Jennings in the backup role. Karim is talented enough to push Jennings down the depth chart in training camp.

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpag...NFL&id=5853
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That's UNPOSSIBLE!

 
Watched Karim up close at the Texas vs The Nation Game in El Paso earlier this year. MJD-light IMHO. low center of gravity, quick initial burst, good footwork, vision to see the cutback lane. I love him in a dynasty league.

Jennings was not that impressive when I saw him at the Senior Bowl practices two years ago, but he impressed me on the few carries he received last year.

IF MJD were to go down it would be a RBBC with Karim as the MJD replacement and Jennings as the short yardage and goalline guy (so Karim doesn't get beat up)

:wub:

 
acme said:
Cecil Lammey said:
Texas Day 2 practice report (misspelled his name :ph34r: )

http://draftguys.com/index.php/articles/1/...report_-_texas/

Texas Day 1 practice reports

http://draftguys.com/index.php/articles/1/...report_-_texas/

got my hands on some game film of Karim (through friends in the scouting community) - kid is the real deal.
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any chance of you being able to post it? there seems to be very little film (even u-tube) stuff on him.
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Because it's coaches film I wouldn't want it to end up on Youtube. Guy I got it from has hooked me up before with small school guys. I remember watching 4 games (coach's tape) of Danny Woodhead with no sound. Hoping to get some Pat Devlin (Delaware QB) game film from him soon! :boxing:
 
Steed said:
Do your friends in the scouting community have the same opinion of Deji as you?
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Yes, people were excited about him at Tx v Nation, and MJD comparisons (MJD lite) were tossed around. I like his upside greater than Jennings, but I was impressed with how Jennings looked much more quick and decisive during the regular season (at the Senior Bowl he looked :unsure: - compared to what I expected)
 
Del Rio declares Jennings Jaguars' No. 2 back

Coach Jack Del Rio has named Rashad Jennings the Jaguars' No. 2 back.

He beat out rookie Deji Karim, whose impressive OTA work apparently didn't translate to contact practices. "He can do all the things we want a running back to do," said Del Rio of Jennings, "from running the ball, blitz protection, catching the ball, knowing the entire offense inside and out." Jennings can be targeted as a late-round handcuff by Maurice Jones-Drew fantasy owners. Aug. 18 - 7:00 pm et

Source: Tania Ganguli on Twitter

I also think Karim has real talent. Nice luxuary to have if you're Jax.

 
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JohnnyU said:
Del Rio declares Jennings Jaguars' No. 2 back Coach Jack Del Rio has named Rashad Jennings the Jaguars' No. 2 back.He beat out rookie Deji Karim, whose impressive OTA work apparently didn't translate to contact practices. "He can do all the things we want a running back to do," said Del Rio of Jennings, "from running the ball, blitz protection, catching the ball, knowing the entire offense inside and out." Jennings can be targeted as a late-round handcuff by Maurice Jones-Drew fantasy owners. Aug. 18 - 7:00 pm etSource: Tania Ganguli on Twitter I also think Karim has real talent. Nice luxuary to have if you're Jax.
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sounds like Deji has some learning to do
 
loose circuits said:
JohnnyU said:
Del Rio declares Jennings Jaguars' No. 2 back Coach Jack Del Rio has named Rashad Jennings the Jaguars' No. 2 back.He beat out rookie Deji Karim, whose impressive OTA work apparently didn't translate to contact practices. "He can do all the things we want a running back to do," said Del Rio of Jennings, "from running the ball, blitz protection, catching the ball, knowing the entire offense inside and out." Jennings can be targeted as a late-round handcuff by Maurice Jones-Drew fantasy owners. Aug. 18 - 7:00 pm etSource: Tania Ganguli on Twitter I also think Karim has real talent. Nice luxuary to have if you're Jax.
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sounds like Deji has some learning to do
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Maybe, but he does have plenty of talent. I think a lot of people underestimated Jennings' talent, but that's another story. I'm sure both would step in and do a great job should MJD go down (God forbid that doesn't happen).
 
JohnnyU said:
loose circuits said:
JohnnyU said:
Del Rio declares Jennings Jaguars' No. 2 back Coach Jack Del Rio has named Rashad Jennings the Jaguars' No. 2 back.He beat out rookie Deji Karim, whose impressive OTA work apparently didn't translate to contact practices. "He can do all the things we want a running back to do," said Del Rio of Jennings, "from running the ball, blitz protection, catching the ball, knowing the entire offense inside and out." Jennings can be targeted as a late-round handcuff by Maurice Jones-Drew fantasy owners. Aug. 18 - 7:00 pm etSource: Tania Ganguli on Twitter I also think Karim has real talent. Nice luxuary to have if you're Jax.
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sounds like Deji has some learning to do
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Maybe, but he does have plenty of talent. I think a lot of people underestimated Jennings' talent, but that's another story. I'm sure both would step in and do a great job should MJD go down (God forbid that doesn't happen).
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Jennings reminds me of a Jason Snelling type player. A guy that does everything well, but will never take over a game. Type of guy you want as a back-up. Karim is supposed to have game breaking type stuff, we'll see. If he doesn't get on the field, we won't be able to see it
 
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from deep sleeper rbs

Deji Karim - JAX 1 voteJeff Haseley - Don't be surprised if Karim outplays Rashad Jennings for the backup role behind Maurice Jones-Drew. He has a running style similar to Jones-Drew, in that his 5-foot-9, 210 pound frame allows him to run with a low center of gravity that makes him difficult to tackle. Like MJD, he is a tough competitor who fights for extra yardage. He also has good pass-catching skills that will allow the offense to utilize him, just like Jones-Drew. Being healthy is never a guarantee, which means it's good to have a backup who can keep the offense afloat. If given the opportunity, Karim could be a big surprise in place of Jones-Drew.
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Hipple said:
from deep sleeper rbs

Deji Karim - JAX 1 voteJeff Haseley - Don't be surprised if Karim outplays Rashad Jennings for the backup role behind Maurice Jones-Drew. He has a running style similar to Jones-Drew, in that his 5-foot-9, 210 pound frame allows him to run with a low center of gravity that makes him difficult to tackle. Like MJD, he is a tough competitor who fights for extra yardage. He also has good pass-catching skills that will allow the offense to utilize him, just like Jones-Drew. Being healthy is never a guarantee, which means it's good to have a backup who can keep the offense afloat. If given the opportunity, Karim could be a big surprise in place of Jones-Drew.
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Since Jennings is the RB to have now, it's very hard carrying two backup rbs in most dynasty leagues, but may be worth it down the line. Then again, maybe that's foolish. I don't know.
 
I took this guy at the end of a couple startup dynasty's I did last month. If you have the roster space or a taxi squad you'd be silly to not roster this guy. His pro day numbers alone are eye popping. And he is supposedly impressing at camp, it will likely take some sort of MJD injury to get a shot but if he does all bets are off

 


Deji Karim out the rest of Pre-Season

According to Tania Ganguli, running back Deji Karim will miss the final two games of the pre-season and possibly the opener against the Denver Broncos. He had surgery yesterday on his thumb that he injured last week and now has a cast on his hand.

The Jaguars also signed runningback Kolby Smith and waived linebacker Kris Griffin.

http://www.bigcatcountry.com/2010/8/25/165...the-rest-of-pre

 
identikit said:


Deji Karim out the rest of Pre-Season

According to Tania Ganguli, running back Deji Karim will miss the final two games of the pre-season and possibly the opener against the Denver Broncos. He had surgery yesterday on his thumb that he injured last week and now has a cast on his hand.

The Jaguars also signed runningback Kolby Smith and waived linebacker Kris Griffin.

http://www.bigcatcountry.com/2010/8/25/165...the-rest-of-pre
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tough break for the kid, but not the end of the world

 
Deji dressing for practice though did not participate. Might begin practicing and can perhaps serve as kick returner.

 
I have him stashed away in a few leagues, He looks really good today. He's got MJD in front of him but there's no doubt he's talented, he could work his way into a RBBC

 
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