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'Bracie Smathers said:
Secondly, he has to get a shot at the goal line. Dallas had the ball inside the four yard line and Garrett called pass plays. Will Garrett get the message that Murray set the all-time Oklahoma scoring record so he can punch it in at the goal line?
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There's a significant problem here: Dallas's OL is absolute trash, even more-so inside the 10. They can't run the ball when they have to, and they damn sure can't run it in a compressed section of the field. Phil Costa is getting blown up repeatedly. You can feed (insert Dallas RB here) all you want at the GL, but until they find a way to run block effectively (or scheme it), it doesn't matter who gets the rock.
 
'DeaLerZ said:
'nysportsfan said:
'Illegal Pants Downfield said:
This might sound weird, and I will admit that I've really only seen Murray run in some highlights/recaps.But there's something that looks awkward about his feet when he runs. Like a 13-year old kid whose feet have grown faster than his body or something...Also, I wish I had him on my team.
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I think, as someone pointed out above, that he doesn't really pump his knees like a traditional running back. Doesn't matter though, kid is getting it done.
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Honestly, i think this helps him on runs because it probably makes the defenders underestimate his speed at times
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There might be something to this- maybe i'm crazy too but I always thought Gale Sayers had a weird lope (even before he got hurt), it always seemed like he was moving way faster than my eyes were telling me (in video mind you, im not that old). Of course i'm not comparing Murray to Sayers, but I do think a guys stride can confuse the defenders instincts and cause bad angles.
 
Felix Jones has some of the worst vision I have seen from a RB. Can't count the number of times I watch him run right into people downfield.

 
From rotoworld:

Cowboys coach Jason Garrett said Monday that he's "hopeful" Felix Jones (ankle) will be able to play in Week 10."There’s going to be a role for Felix Jones coming back," insisted Garrett. "We like to get him the football as well." DeMarco Murray has 466 yards on 55 carries (8.47 YPC) in the last three games, so he has earned Dallas' lead back job. Jones may return as only a change-of-pace and third-down back.
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Interesting that Garrett says there is "going to be a role for Felix Jones." Doesn't sound like a ringing endorsement to take back the starting job.
 
'kutta said:
From rotoworld:

Cowboys coach Jason Garrett said Monday that he's "hopeful" Felix Jones (ankle) will be able to play in Week 10."There’s going to be a role for Felix Jones coming back," insisted Garrett. "We like to get him the football as well." DeMarco Murray has 466 yards on 55 carries (8.47 YPC) in the last three games, so he has earned Dallas' lead back job. Jones may return as only a change-of-pace and third-down back.
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Interesting that Garrett says there is "going to be a role for Felix Jones." Doesn't sound like a ringing endorsement to take back the starting job.
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Agree. Lets pretend for a second that Arian Foster was their starting RB who got hurt and Murray took over. I am pretty sure Garrett would be saying something different than "There's going to be a role for Foster coming back"
 
What are other Murray owwners getting offered for him?

I own in him 1 dynasty league & was offered Chris Johnson & Garcon for S. Holmes & Murray. I turned it down.

 
In redraft sell high. He'll be in a Rbbc in a couple weeks. Don't give him away but if you can get a Dwayne Bowe from someone that needs a Rb,

I would take it in a redraft.

 
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'Magic_Man said:
What are other Murray owwners getting offered for him?I own in him 1 dynasty league & was offered Chris Johnson & Garcon for S. Holmes & Murray. I turned it down.
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I don't even think I'm gonna shop him. You probably won't get what he's worth (LOL FELIX JONES COMING BACK). I have Felix as well though
 
just got an offer from a bowe owner. We play in a keeper league where you can keep for two additional years. I lost austin this week and I am def contemplating the trade. BC my other RBs are foster, mccoy and beanie. Wrs are Calvin, austin, breaston and decker

 
What are the dynasty folks thinking about Murray at this point? Just got a offer in my contract league that would give me Murray (signed thru 2012) and Ingram (signed thru 2014) for J. Charles (signed thru 2013). I don't wanna give up too much for a flash in the pan

 
'PR Sparty said:
What are the dynasty folks thinking about Murray at this point? Just got a offer in my contract league that would give me Murray (signed thru 2012) and Ingram (signed thru 2014) for J. Charles (signed thru 2013). I don't wanna give up too much for a flash in the pan
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Wow!I guess your roster and whether you are a contender, mediocre, or re-building team has to factor into the decision. However, depending upon the size of the Charles' contract in comparison to the other two, and what it would take to re-sign Murray after 2012, I'ld be sorely tempted to take that offer...Charles may not come back full speed right away next season, so there's significant risk with all three of these RBs. Still if you like Ingram's upside, and if you agree that Murray is the real deal and in a pretty good offensive situation, then I'ld probably make this trade if the contract situations are favorable and Murray can be re-signed after next season.
 
'PR Sparty said:
What are the dynasty folks thinking about Murray at this point? Just got a offer in my contract league that would give me Murray (signed thru 2012) and Ingram (signed thru 2014) for J. Charles (signed thru 2013). I don't wanna give up too much for a flash in the pan
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I'd take that offer immediately. I think Murray is going to be huge.
 
would you trade Murray straight-up for Andre Johnson? Keep in mind AJ is not for sure returning this week + he has a BYE next week.

 
'Urinal Mint said:
'Bracie Smathers said:
Secondly, he has to get a shot at the goal line. Dallas had the ball inside the four yard line and Garrett called pass plays. Will Garrett get the message that Murray set the all-time Oklahoma scoring record so he can punch it in at the goal line?
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There's a significant problem here: Dallas's OL is absolute trash, even more-so inside the 10. They can't run the ball when they have to, and they damn sure can't run it in a compressed section of the field. Phil Costa is getting blown up repeatedly. You can feed (insert Dallas RB here) all you want at the GL, but until they find a way to run block effectively (or scheme it), it doesn't matter who gets the rock.
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And this is some hard truth for owners of Cowboys' RBs. You could put ADP behind that line and he would struggle to get goal line TDs.
 
if you have both Murray and Felix, is it even worth trading Felix? Because I honestly can't take him taking up a roster spot with our 5 man benches. I'm thinking of just dropping him...

 
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'CA_7 said:
Jerry Jones: Cowboys' DeMarco Murray reminds me of Eric Dickerson
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http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/dallas-cowboys/headlines/20111108-jerry-jones-cowboys-rb-demarco-murray-reminds-me-of-eric-dickerson.ece
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Did you catch the last few lines of the article?
Although Murray has been impressive with his increased workload, neither Jerry Jones or head coach Jason Garrett have committed to keeping him as the starter when Felix Jones returns from a high ankle sprain.And Jerry Jones said Tuesday that he doesn't believe it matters to Murray or Felix Jones either way."Both of them split reps when they were in college," the owner said. "That’s not an issue at all."
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:unsure:
 
I don't know why everyone is assuming that even if they do go RBBC, it's a 50/50 split. They had no running game with a healthy Felix. Murray has the look of an all pro running behind a shaky line. He's put up ludicrous numbers. He's given the offense the extra dimension it needed to open up their passing offense a bit.

The NFC East is wide open. Jerry Jones just compared Murray to one of the greatest RBs to ever lace up cleats. The Cowboys have a shot to win this division, and Garrett's job might depend on it.

It would be "Haley-esque" to return to Felix as even a 50/50 ball carrier. It just makes absolutely no sense. He is quoted as saying "There’s going to be a role for Felix Jones coming back," insisted Garrett. "We like to get him the football as well." Clearly Felix is being relegated to the low end of a 30/70 time share. He's almost an afterthought in the offense. "A role." Maybe some passing down work, and change of pace. Until he gets injured again. The only people who really think that DeMarco will lose the lions share of touches in this backfield are disgruntled Felix owners who missed the waiver priority on Murray. No one in their right mind could logically think otherwise.

 
'CompetitiveEdgeFootball said:
I don't know why everyone is assuming that even if they do go RBBC, it's a 50/50 split. They had no running game with a healthy Felix. Murray has the look of an all pro running behind a shaky line. He's put up ludicrous numbers. He's given the offense the extra dimension it needed to open up their passing offense a bit.The NFC East is wide open. Jerry Jones just compared Murray to one of the greatest RBs to ever lace up cleats. The Cowboys have a shot to win this division, and Garrett's job might depend on it. It would be "Haley-esque" to return to Felix as even a 50/50 ball carrier. It just makes absolutely no sense. He is quoted as saying "There’s going to be a role for Felix Jones coming back," insisted Garrett. "We like to get him the football as well." Clearly Felix is being relegated to the low end of a 30/70 time share. He's almost an afterthought in the offense. "A role." Maybe some passing down work, and change of pace. Until he gets injured again. The only people who really think that DeMarco will lose the lions share of touches in this backfield are disgruntled Felix owners who missed the waiver priority on Murray. No one in their right mind could logically think otherwise.
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I own both, and hope you are right. I just don't think Jones goes from starter to irrelevant, even with Murray running as well as he does. Do I agree with Felix seeing more than 30%? No, but I think that he will see closer to 45%-50%, unfortunately.
 
'nysportsfan said:
'CompetitiveEdgeFootball said:
I don't know why everyone is assuming that even if they do go RBBC, it's a 50/50 split. They had no running game with a healthy Felix. Murray has the look of an all pro running behind a shaky line. He's put up ludicrous numbers. He's given the offense the extra dimension it needed to open up their passing offense a bit.The NFC East is wide open. Jerry Jones just compared Murray to one of the greatest RBs to ever lace up cleats. The Cowboys have a shot to win this division, and Garrett's job might depend on it. It would be "Haley-esque" to return to Felix as even a 50/50 ball carrier. It just makes absolutely no sense. He is quoted as saying "There’s going to be a role for Felix Jones coming back," insisted Garrett. "We like to get him the football as well." Clearly Felix is being relegated to the low end of a 30/70 time share. He's almost an afterthought in the offense. "A role." Maybe some passing down work, and change of pace. Until he gets injured again. The only people who really think that DeMarco will lose the lions share of touches in this backfield are disgruntled Felix owners who missed the waiver priority on Murray. No one in their right mind could logically think otherwise.
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I own both, and hope you are right. I just don't think Jones goes from starter to irrelevant, even with Murray running as well as he does. Do I agree with Felix seeing more than 30%? No, but I think that he will see closer to 45%-50%, unfortunately.
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Its possible but it doesn't make any logical sense, and all signs point otherwise. Not that logic dictates all the decisions made in the NFL, thats for sure. In any case, even with 65% of the touches, Murray can put up high end RB2/low end RB1 numbers. I'm not worried too much about him going forward.
 
'Urinal Mint said:
'Bracie Smathers said:
Secondly, he has to get a shot at the goal line. Dallas had the ball inside the four yard line and Garrett called pass plays. Will Garrett get the message that Murray set the all-time Oklahoma scoring record so he can punch it in at the goal line?
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There's a significant problem here: Dallas's OL is absolute trash, even more-so inside the 10. They can't run the ball when they have to, and they damn sure can't run it in a compressed section of the field. Phil Costa is getting blown up repeatedly. You can feed (insert Dallas RB here) all you want at the GL, but until they find a way to run block effectively (or scheme it), it doesn't matter who gets the rock.
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A local Dallas sports program went over the issues at the goal line. They break it down to having undersized O-Linemen and not having a go-to player down in near the goal line.

Oh and to address other posts wondering about a RBBC, both writers and the host agree that Murray is thee primary back even when Felix gets back.

Link to Sports Day On Air from 11-7 Demarco Murray an every down back

 
'geoff8695 said:
'CA_7 said:
Jerry Jones: Cowboys' DeMarco Murray reminds me of Eric Dickerson
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http://www.dallasnew...c-dickerson.ece
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Did you catch the last few lines of the article?
Although Murray has been impressive with his increased workload, neither Jerry Jones or head coach Jason Garrett have committed to keeping him as the starter when Felix Jones returns from a high ankle sprain.

And Jerry Jones said Tuesday that he doesn't believe it matters to Murray or Felix Jones either way.

"Both of them split reps when they were in college," the owner said. "That's not an issue at all."
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What that means is "Felix played second fiddle at Arkansas, so he'll be able to handle it here too."Seriously though, all he was saying is that he doesn't anticipate any ego problems from either guy over their roles. He didn't actually say anything about their plans when Felix returns.

But even if he did, it isn't written in stone. Murray has looked good. Felix has not. Assuming that what Jerry says in that quote is going to trump what the staff sees with their eyes over the next few weeks is folly. Results are the sorts of thing that change a coach's mind about who should be getting the carries. Jones is vulnerable and Murray appears to be capitalizing on that.

 
'nysportsfan said:
'Illegal Pants Downfield said:
This might sound weird, and I will admit that I've really only seen Murray run in some highlights/recaps.But there's something that looks awkward about his feet when he runs. Like a 13-year old kid whose feet have grown faster than his body or something...Also, I wish I had him on my team.
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I think, as someone pointed out above, that he doesn't really pump his knees like a traditional running back. Doesn't matter though, kid is getting it done.
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I think McCoy is somewhat similar. They kinda have that "scoot" stride. It's more of a swing the leg forward from the hips rather than draw the leg up with the knee and then extend. It would be interesting to see it lab tested. It could translate as getting wheel to road quicker than a stride that spends time raising the foot higher than it needs to be. The downside would be that it leaves the legs more vulnerable to being wrapped up...which would be trouble for a tall RB who runs upright. It was reassuring to see Waldman talk positive about Murray's pad level. I start to get a bit nervous about RB's who come it at 6'0" or more and have trouble with their pad level.
 
'Aaron Rudnicki said:
he's ridiculous.but looks like he might have injured his shoulder at the end of the first half.
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Yep and yep.He went in a play early, but looked like he wasn't in too much pain. We will see shortly if he comes out right away in the second half. Could've been a monster day again but depending on the score, we might see Tanner more.
 
Looks like a large dose of Tanner in 2nd half here. Thanks for another nice week DeMarco. It was nice knowing you while you were fantasy relevant :-)

 
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