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Which is why she needs to choose her words more carefully and account for the fact that there are a lot of dimwitted people more interested in getting hung up on semantics than addressing the cruelty being visited on these innocent children by our government. The majority of those people are unreachably awful, but I have to assume there are at least a few who draw the line at childr...ah #### it, who am I kidding.
There's a good parallel here -- I think so anyway -- between this issue and the abortion thread. When a pro-life person drops into an abortion argument and starts talking about murdering babies, all that accomplishes is derailing the conversation into a semantic argument about what the tern "murder" means and what a "baby" is, without actually addressing any of the underlying substantive issues. If you just want to blow off some steam and fling some rhetoric around the internet, that's fine I suppose. But if you actually want to have an adult conversation, it's important to choose your words accordingly.
She really hasn’t regarding the prison camps. Where kids are being sexually assaulted and abused. It’s a rightwing talking point. It’s just an excuse to look the other way.
No I reject this.
I agree but I really wish Omar would tone down her rhetoric as I am very concerned it will cost us votes in the long run.
She's my rep and she's saying pretty much everything I would want to say in her position. I think she represents me and my like minded friends in her district quite well. But, we're a very liberal sort.
It wasn't. At all.
It's not to say that if you were troubled by one thing, you automatically believe in the other. It's to say that the badfaith crocodile tears over "antisemitic tropes," which Democratic elites used to single Omar out in an extremely disingenuous way, absolutely teed her up for this trash.
First, I agree with your overall take that just because the crowd at Trump’s rally chanted “Send her back!” about Ilhan Omar doesn’t mean it was wrong to be critical of Omar’s statements regarding Jewish-Americans.
That’s certainly true, but then it’s fair to question which label Omar is putting on which entity.
Yeah, I’ve listened to it a number of times. I don’t get it, honestly. I have no idea what she was trying to say there. I suspect that she was laughing at her professor for some physical thing and you’d have to see it, but I don’t know.
Obviously he and the others can't, although they are always the first to demand a link for anything you post.
There’s definitely truth to this. We not only see the divide between between the Democratic Party’s position on Israel and some Squad member’s position on that State, but we’re also seeing a growing divide between the Democratic Party and their more Progressive base with regard to Israel.
As a registered Democrat in the great state of KY, that would appear to be the case.
Again I ask, why would someone that loves Al Qaeda vote YES for funding on the 9/11 First Responders bill. So she "supported" the murders of thousands of people on that day but now wants to the best for the people that tried to save them. Come on
It is also okay to be critical of Israel, their policies, and our relationship with Israel and not be anti Semitic.
By the way, I never had a problem with you posting tweets on here. I think Twitter's a useful platform for information. It's kind of weak to post about Maddow's ratings, or whatever clapback one of your slay kweens did, but I never had a problem with it.
What is a slay kween?
This seems to be a superfluous sentence. I wouldn’t expect somebody who calls his website “electronicintifada” to be focused on China vs Taiwan.
I agree 100%. It is also okay for people to be critical of AOC and Omar and not be racist or misogynist. I think that is where most in this forum lose their way and have a difficult time discerning. My dad always taught me to be an "aware" liberal. Don`t just drink Kool-Aid because someone tells you to, and think for yourself.
True. But to most people in America when a white person tells a person of color to "go back to were you came from" that's being racist.
Heaven forbid you make an offhanded comment about the DSM when he's already brought it into the conversation. He might jump down your throat and ask you about gays and mental illness for the week.
Sure, when the comment is made based solely on ethnicity or the color of someone's skin. When it is made due to perceived anti-American comments, it isn't racist. Maybe racially insensitive but not racist.
I honestly believe that there is a bit of racism and paternalism at play when we expect gratitude from those who come here, especially because it always seems to be centered at minorities.rockaction said:
We should also make sure not to confuse disingenuous smears of her positions and beliefs, with genuine disagreement on her actual policies and views.
No, I wasn't. I found it amusing and somewhat ironic that after the constant criticism I received for supposedly posting random tweets (none of which were actually chosen randomly as they all related to the subject matter that was under discussion) if the same thing is done by someone on the right the response is always :crickets: (as it has been here).IvanKaramazov said:
Yeah, that's a good point. I'm not really commenting on the "send her back" chants, which are typically odious. I'm more talking about a deeper, more personally-held reaction. I think that personally, I'm very grateful for my late ancestors' immigration to the New World. One often hopes the same of other recipients of such open arms. Alas, it is indeed sometimes that people see outside of provincialism and become fierce critics. Omar's response to our response to radical Islamism may be her Solzhenistyn moment at Harvard in its presience if lack of gratitude.
It’s been explained to you many times that when someone does it once in a blue moonit’s not a big deal
But I find this question annoying. Why would you ask it? Are you hoping for some kind of gotcha? There isn’t one.
Well , that’s nice and all, but I didn’t ask you
I didn’t find this annoying
