The General
Footballguy
Can the Kamala is a cog in the conservative apparatus please meet with the Kamala is an antifa squad member leftist and form a consensus? TIA
Whatever sticks...Can the Kamala is a cog in the conservative apparatus please meet with the Kamala is an antifa squad member leftist and form a consensus? TIA
Yup. Even tying the ol’ “Many people are saying she wasn’t even born here” shtick.Whatever sticks...
You know, there are fine people on both sides of that argument. Many fine people.Yup. Even tying the ol’ “Many people are saying she wasn’t even born here” shtick.
I heard Kamala isn't white AND a woman!!The General said:Yup. Even tying the ol’ “Many people are saying she wasn’t even born here” shtick.
Yo, work a little harder on your reading comprehension skills. The “4-5%” bit that you quoted, attributed to me, and then attacked wasn’t written by me.Oh, Really?
https://www.bls.gov/charts/employment-situation/civilian-unemployment-rate.htm
Let take a look at a few things, shall we?
First, note the last 20 years - Unemployment has been at 4% or less in 29 of those 240 months.
The average monthly Unemployment Rate is a little over 6%
Second, let look a little more closely at the trends. Take a look at how unemployment was trending into Obama's presidency? Did that trend change during Obama's administration?
Now, lets look at the trend leading into Trump's presidency. Excluding the covid months, for the sake of this argument, did the trend change during Trump's administration?
I'll try this one more time.Honest question, what's so exciting now about Kamala Harris? She didn't get any delegates in 2020 DNC presidential race.
On the contrary - I think she is the spark the Dems were looking for in this race. Its Biden who is a bit bland, while Harris is more of a firecracker.So, not very exciting...which Pence wasn't either.
Harris 'electrifies' West Indian voters — and gives Biden a new edge in FloridaOn the contrary - I think she is the spark the Dems were looking for in this race. Its Biden who is a bit bland, while Harris is more of a firecracker.
Anecdotally, I'd say Dem enthusiasm is definitely up a notch or two since the announcement.
I tend to agree with your point but I think she was a bad campaigner as well. I remember a town hall I watched somewhere along the way and she seemed to be trying to appeal to all people rather than taking a principled position. It made her come across hollow. Maybe that was the front-runner status but I think that's a bit why she gets the bland tag.I'll try this one more time.
Harris, the candidate, is pretty strong. She is very well spoken, and carries herself well in public.
Harris, the campaign manager, is pretty weak.
Kamala Harris is not a moderate politician — far from it. She supports radical policies such as “Medicare-for-all,” a $15 per hour federal minimum wage, special taxes on financial institutions, open borders, gun control, and much more.
Pence was not exciting but he served a purpose: he soothed the concerns of social conservatives who may have been uncomfortable voting for a deplorable secularist.So, not very exciting...which Pence wasn't either.
She went on to say that people have differences and disagreements but that doesn’t override the commonality that they have on any number of other issues. The most important beating Trump.Fan or not this is pretty weak from her and she is simply going to have to do better of explaining things going forward. What does it matter if "it was a debate"? she sounds dumb
https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1294460476865171456
Come on man, she insinuated (strongly) that he was a racist and laughs it off to being a "debate". Man thats not cool. You know she is going to get hammered over that going forward and she needs to tighten that up a bit.She went on to say that people have differences and disagreements but that doesn’t override the commonality that they have on any number of other issues. The most important beating Trump.
She specifically said I’m not saying you are a racist but as a young black person here’s how I viewed your stances.Come on man, she insinuated (strongly) that he was a racist and laughs it off to being a "debate". Man thats not cool. You know she is going to get hammered over that going forward and she needs to tighten that up a bit.
I thought it was a quite a bit of a cheap shot IIRC. She was trying to get a knock out shot on Biden.Someone should go back to the thread from that first debate to see how we all perceived Harris’s attack at the time. I feel like there’s some revisionist history going on here.
Come on dude, lets not do this, she knew exactly what she was doing and how to phrase it. go back and watch, go back and read immediately after the debate, she had this teed up from the jump. This wasnt a spur of the moment comment. And like I said she is going to have to answer this over and over and she is going to have to do a better job then saying "it was a debate" while laughing. You can admit its not a good look. You can do itShe specifically said I’m not saying you are a racist but as a young black person here’s how I viewed your stances.
Biden was a middle aged white dude having to make political compromises and shape law it was forty years ago.
How in the world would they view this exactly the same?
This is the first reason I've seen that would justify Harris as a candidate.Harris 'electrifies' West Indian voters — and gives Biden a new edge in Florida
If Harris truly energizes the Haitian community, in addition to the clear jolt to the native English-speaking Black West Indian diaspora community, it could be a big deal in Florida, where Trump won by just over 1% in 2016. Many in the Haitian community disliked the Clintons who they believe sliphoned off money after the earthquake.
She was trying to win.Come on dude, lets not do this, she knew exactly what she was doing and how to phrase it. go back and watch, go back and read immediately after the debate, she had this teed up from the jump. This wasnt a spur of the moment comment. And like I said she is going to have to answer this over and over and she is going to have to do a better job then saying "it was a debate" while laughing. You can admit its not a good look. You can do it
She also has the law and order background to soothe concerns moderate voters might have in regards to law and order, policing, etc.Pence was not exciting but he served a purpose: he soothed the concerns of social conservatives who may have been uncomfortable voting for a deplorable secularist.
Harris serves a similar purpose: she soothes the concerns of two Democratic voter blocs (women and African-Americans).
Is she a perfect match to their desires? No, not by a longshot. But there was no "perfect option" available, IMO. Picking someone based on whether they're "exciting" is a dangerous proposition (see: Sarah Palin).
I think Whitmer brings too much COVID baggage with her. She is mostly popular in Michigan but the people that dislike her absolutely hate her. Plus, she is open to attacks if COVID and the economy in Michigan go south over the next few months.This is the first reason I've seen that would justify Harris as a candidate.
Personally, I would have gone with the Michigan Governor, but we'll see how this plays out.
I think I'd still taker her over Kamala...Kamala is not likable and so far as I can tell isn't helping Biden with any important demographic. The Florida angle is interesting, and I presumed there was something like that to justify what seems to be a questionable pick from a strategic perspective. "Congrats Joe, you just locked up the black/female/California vote!"I think Whitmer brings too much COVID baggage with her. She is mostly popular in Michigan but the people that dislike her absolutely hate her. Plus, she is open to attacks if COVID and the economy in Michigan go south over the next few months.
Biden has a pretty big lead. Kamala was the most known, outside of Warren, of the group of names out there. Safest pick.I think I'd still taker her over Kamala...Kamala is not likable and so far as I can tell isn't helping Biden with any important demographic. The Florida angle is interesting, and I presumed there was something like that to justify what seems to be a questionable pick from a strategic perspective. "Congrats Joe, you just locked up the black/female/California vote!"
Agreed, VPs are usually safe choices meant to do no harm.Biden has a pretty big lead. Kamala was the most known, outside of Warren, of the group of names out there. Safest pick.
Yeah. They're wrong. Kamala is an extremely authoritarian, pro-war, establishment politician.The General said:Can the Kamala is a cog in the conservative apparatus please meet with the Kamala is an antifa squad member leftist and form a consensus? TIA
These are the same people that called Obama a socialist.Yeah. They're wrong. Kamala is an extremely authoritarian, pro-war, establishment politician.
The only thing I can think of is that Trump wants to attack her from the right, because he already knows she's going to get destroyed from the left.
My youngest daughter, who's uber liberal and just moved to LA in the middle of a pandemic, largely to be closer to more vegans and my liberals, is voting for the Biden ticket. She has more issues with Biden, but it's much better than the alternative. We'll see how much enthusiasm there is in 3 months.
It's all about turnout. If African American and female voters turn out anywhere near 2008/2012 levels, Biden wins easily. If they turn out at 2016 levels it will be a lot closer.I think I'd still taker her over Kamala...Kamala is not likable and so far as I can tell isn't helping Biden with any important demographic. The Florida angle is interesting, and I presumed there was something like that to justify what seems to be a questionable pick from a strategic perspective. "Congrats Joe, you just locked up the black/female/California vote!"
Her campaign people had T--shirts commemorating the moment out for sale that night of the debate as I recall.Come on dude, lets not do this, she knew exactly what she was doing and how to phrase it. go back and watch, go back and read immediately after the debate, she had this teed up from the jump. This wasnt a spur of the moment comment. And like I said she is going to have to answer this over and over and she is going to have to do a better job then saying "it was a debate" while laughing. You can admit its not a good look. You can do it
Yeah- they were wrong then too. Fortunately for Obama he had credibility from a civil rights/civil libertarian perspective as a constitutional scholar with a pretty clean track record. He was also a smooth politician and once-in-a-lifetime orator.These are the same people that called Obama a socialist.
Of course you would - you are voting for a ticket that includes Trump and Pence. Whitmer would be a huge upgrade.I think I'd still taker her over Kamala...Kamala is not likable and so far as I can tell isn't helping Biden with any important demographic. The Florida angle is interesting, and I presumed there was something like that to justify what seems to be a questionable pick from a strategic perspective. "Congrats Joe, you just locked up the black/female/California vote!"
It would seem that blacks don't need motivation with the current landscape, but if they are worried about black turnout then the Kamala selection makes more sense...I just didn't think that was in question.It's all about turnout. If African American and female voters turn out anywhere near 2008/2012 levels, Biden wins easily. If they turn out at 2016 levels it will be a lot closer.
I'm a firm believer that the difference in the 2016 election was low voter turnout among Black voters in Detroit, Philadelphia and Milwaukee.
I'll try this one more time.
Harris, the candidate, is pretty strong. She is very well spoken, and carries herself well in public.
Gawd bless the 2 party system!!!My youngest daughter, who's uber liberal and just moved to LA in the middle of a pandemic, largely to be closer to more vegans and my liberals, is voting for the Biden ticket. She has more issues with Biden, but it's much better than the alternative. We'll see how much enthusiasm there is in 3 months.
There are other candidates.Gawd bless the 2 party system!!!
It seems more like you really just don’t like her.I don't know if you all remember how forced Kamala's 'that little girl was me' bit was, but the way she interjected herself into the debate as 'the only black person on stage' made it seem like the whole thing was scripted all along.
It's not too late to buy the 'that little girl was me' t-shirt. I actually think this would be great shtick for Trump supporters.
There are other candidates.Gawd bless the 2 party system!!!
Consider the alternative - lets say its a 3 or 4 party system - where the winning candidate gets 35% of the vote.Gawd bless the 2 party system!!!
She is well spoken when she has a prepared statement or talking points, but from what I have seen, she often resembles a deer in the headlights when getting any kind of pushback on anything she says or when asked about something for which she wasn't prepared. Vice President nominees rarely make a big difference in deciding a presidential election, and I don't think Harris' past flaws will hurt Biden at all, but calling her well spoken does seem a bit generous.
As soon as these great mythical 3rd party candidates actually had to govern people would shred them.
Well, you're not wrong about that.It seems like you don’t like her.
Because the main two are doing such a bang up job.As soon as these great mythical 3rd party candidates actually had to govern people would shred them.
What issues aren’t starkly enough drawn between the two choices we have that a 3rd party would address?Because the main two are doing such a bang up job.
But, hey keep rooting for "your" side. It's the American way.