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The focus on Trump by the Democrats is that he may have committed treason against the United States. Are you saying that should just be overlooked, ignored?
Ok i said this before. Then focus on beating him with what you got. The Republicans were salivating at the idea of kamala or sanders or warren getting the nod cause they knew the Republicans would wipe the floor with that. The dems knew it too and at the last minute got wise and woke Biden up. It was a smart move. Find someone that can beat him. You guys seriously stink at this
The Republican candidate wisely avoided him. That won’t be the case in 2022, or 2024.
Oh right, it was the gaffe, the confusion in people thinking McAuliffe was the incumbent, and that Younkin successfully distanced himself from Trump.
I guess we will see how the economy is still doing in a couple years, but I really think you are underestimating how much the annoyance with this stuff is bubbling under the surface for people. CRT, CC, wokeness is front and center for a lot of people. Not that it's top of mind for my voting, but it's starting wear on me and I am a social media hermit. All I get it from is podcasts and shows, and in the last year I have unsubscribed to pods I like because it was grating on me - can't imagine being bombarded with it on SM.
I think many (most?) people have had their fill of PC stuff, but I don’t believe it’s a driving issue, except for the extreme right. Covid and the economy (in no particular order) are where it’s at.
I don’t doubt your feelings or that of many people. But as I wrote, it’s not something you can turn off. However voters feel about it, political correctness is not only here to stay but will only increase in coming years.
I think you are trivializing it a tad by referring to it as just PC, and I think it will hurt the dems bigly.
As someone with whom you disagree on many things, I can say I 100% concur with this viewpoint. Every word.
I don't engage in any of it, am generally emotionless (arguably to a fault), and the amount that still gets through to me causes me to close the window with great frequency. Not because I don't want to read it and that's my knee jerk, but more because I laugh at absurdity and I've gotten bored of laughing at that content. PCU is a great movie in small doses, but my immediate thought when considering an encounter with the cause heads every week is hurling myself off a bridge.
Unfortunately for you Biden has performed so poorly I bet there is a good chance he sticks around and if he runs he will win. The Dem candidates are brutal and if Biden’s next three years are anything like this first one Americans won’t hesitate to sign up for 4 more years of Trump over the Biden debacle. Mean tweets are easier to ignore than Biden paying no attention to any issue.
I don't think people care about Jan 6. It was a pretty dead horse they were beating already and it's a polarizing issue. I think people are worried about kitchen table stuff, not endless handwringing about maga goofballs entering a building.
Republicans do fear better. Republicans do gerrymandering better.
We usually disagree on everything in the PSF, but I couldn’t agree with you more on this topic
I think the 'obsession' is that many believe he is the candidate for 2024. I agree with a lot of what you are saying, but I would tweak it in saying that the focus needs to be a strong candidate, and the VP will not get it done. I think they need to keep him in the back of their minds b/c while Biden beat him, I think a lot of that (at least for me) was his handling of covid. I believe if it wasn't for that he would have one easily, and IMO that it was scares the dems b/c it's not like Joe is killing it. Long story short, the more they distance themselves from this administration and just focus on getting a stronger candidate (ie no Joe, Harris, Pete, etc...) . It will be harder to win in 2024, and I know they won't get my help this time.
I totally get that the dems are terrified of Trump. It's discussed every day here. My far left liberal socialist inlaws are also terrified of Trump. But fear isn't a strategy. There can be some value in continuing to discuss his failings because there are a lot of independents out there, but it seems so over the top to me that I feel people are starting to tune out. Especially when their buying power is shrinking at alarming rates, and covid is spreading at an ever faster rate. Some Trump hate is fine, but this obsession starts to look childish
Do you talk to them about it much? What are they afraid of - just that he will be there in 2024 and win, or do they think the country will be fundamentally different if he does? That's the part that I am trying to understand. I really don't like the man, but that is more on a personal/leadership level - it was the covid stuff that got me to vote a different way, unfortunately.
I generally don't. I try very hard to stay away from political discussions with family members. They know I am a republican (although one of the good ones they always tell me) so they know most of what they are for I am in many cases against.
This may be true in terms of the public. But the public didn’t care about the Watergate break in either. It doesn’t matter; we can’t let it go.
Build back better is an existential threat. China and bidens subservient position to them is an existential threat. Killing our ability to be energy self sufficient is an existential threat. Biden being surrounded by assistants who are worse than yes men they are radical leftists, also an existential threat.
I believe every sentence of your first paragraph is not only false but pretty much the opposite of the truth.
Let’s just start with this assertion, which I regard as bizarre nonsense:
No, I don’t think Biden is subservient to them. The guy who wrote that seems obsessed with that idea, he repeats it all the time. I think it’s bunk.
It's harder for Democrats to gerrymander because their voting base tends to be in tight, compact areas. Look at Wisconsin, a state Biden won. They are pretty much forced to pass a 6/2 Republican favored congressional map because the only two sources of Democratic vote are in Milwaukee and Dane County. There's not a whole lot they can do because they may win these areas 4:1 and lose 55/45 out state in those other districts. It might be enough to carry a statewide election, but they are likely to lose most times in any of the districts other than those two.John Maddens Lunchbox said:
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They’re trying to get this done anyhow. It’s not going to happen but they’re going to have a vote anyhow. Stupid stupid stupid. It’s only going to piss progressives off because it will fail, and the rest of the nation will just shake their heads and say “they can’t get anything done.”timschochet said:
