Demon's Souls (1 Viewer)

[bigmarc27]

Enjoy it. It seems the difficulty ramps up pretty quickly. Went from destroying everything to not being able to complete a level.

I'm kind of having a hard time figuring out where to go -- I did 1-1 and 1-2, then went and killed the spider boss (I think that's 2-1?). After that, I paced around the multi-level jail level forever... seriously, like 2 hours trying to figure out where to go. That's pretty much where I'm at now - can't decide if I want to try the jail level again and see what path I missed, or move on to 2-2.

I also completely do not understand the light/dark level thing... at all. I think I'm missing paths because of it.

 

[TxBuckeye]

I also completely do not understand the light/dark level thing... at all. I think I'm missing paths because of it.

I don't understand it either. But it just bit me in the butt. I went back and tried to complete 4-2 and finally was making great progress. But I revised myself so I could dump the Cling Ring for another, and immediately face a couple of Black Phantom Gold Skeletons. So I made it through the part I have been having trouble with, only to hit a huge roadblock. I just saved it turned it off before facing them. I can't stand the thought of losing my progress. But apparently I died so much on this level that I turned it pure black.

For you, I like to go do 4-1. The Skeletons are tough, but doable. Plus you can get the Crescent Falchion, one of the best early level weapons there is.

 

[bigmarc27]

I also completely do not understand the light/dark level thing... at all. I think I'm missing paths because of it.

I don't understand it either. But it just bit me in the butt. I went back and tried to complete 4-2 and finally was making great progress. But I revised myself so I could dump the Cling Ring for another, and immediately face a couple of Black Phantom Gold Skeletons. So I made it through the part I have been having trouble with, only to hit a huge roadblock. I just saved it turned it off before facing them. I can't stand the thought of losing my progress. But apparently I died so much on this level that I turned it pure black.

For you, I like to go do 4-1. The Skeletons are tough, but doable. Plus you can get the Crescent Falchion, one of the best early level weapons there is.

Well at some point if you want to try co-op (not exactly sure how this works), let me know.

 

[TxBuckeye]

I also completely do not understand the light/dark level thing... at all. I think I'm missing paths because of it.

I don't understand it either. But it just bit me in the butt. I went back and tried to complete 4-2 and finally was making great progress. But I revised myself so I could dump the Cling Ring for another, and immediately face a couple of Black Phantom Gold Skeletons. So I made it through the part I have been having trouble with, only to hit a huge roadblock. I just saved it turned it off before facing them. I can't stand the thought of losing my progress. But apparently I died so much on this level that I turned it pure black.

For you, I like to go do 4-1. The Skeletons are tough, but doable. Plus you can get the Crescent Falchion, one of the best early level weapons there is.

Well at some point if you want to try co-op (not exactly sure how this works), let me know.

Not sure either. Have never played this game co-op. Heck, I've never played it logged in. I don't want to be invaded.

 

[bigmarc27]

The biggest adjustment is no estus flask - I think that's really the one thing making this so much more difficult. 20 estus swigs was plenty to get me from bonfire to bonfire. I've got nowhere near enough healing roots to feel comfortable progressing.

I went into 4-1 and got the sword early on - that's a nice sword. I'm slightly confused on the stats in this game too. I was wielding a ******* sword +2 two-handed and it looked like that should be better. In actual use, the crescent falchion +1 disposes enemies much faster.

 

[TxBuckeye]

The biggest adjustment is no estus flask - I think that's really the one thing making this so much more difficult. 20 estus swigs was plenty to get me from bonfire to bonfire. I've got nowhere near enough healing roots to feel comfortable progressing.

I went into 4-1 and got the sword early on - that's a nice sword. I'm slightly confused on the stats in this game too. I was wielding a ******* sword +2 two-handed and it looked like that should be better. In actual use, the crescent falchion +1 disposes enemies much faster.

You have to add the damage stat and the magic damage stat to get it's true value. I have it up to +5 or +6 now and nothing really comes close due to the 100+ or so extra magic damage it does on top of the regular damage.

Also, if you start 4-2, let Patches push you in the pit, then don't kill him when you get out, he'll become a Nexus merchant and you can buy all the grass you need for healing.

 

[bigmarc27]

The biggest adjustment is no estus flask - I think that's really the one thing making this so much more difficult. 20 estus swigs was plenty to get me from bonfire to bonfire. I've got nowhere near enough healing roots to feel comfortable progressing.

I went into 4-1 and got the sword early on - that's a nice sword. I'm slightly confused on the stats in this game too. I was wielding a ******* sword +2 two-handed and it looked like that should be better. In actual use, the crescent falchion +1 disposes enemies much faster.

You have to add the damage stat and the magic damage stat to get it's true value. I have it up to +5 or +6 now and nothing really comes close due to the 100+ or so extra magic damage it does on top of the regular damage.Also, if you start 4-2, let Patches push you in the pit, then don't kill him when you get out, he'll become a Nexus merchant and you can buy all the grass you need for healing.

Wait, that same guy from the tomb of giants? He's in this game too?

 

[TxBuckeye]

I think so. I could be wrong though. I'll let the experts chime in later.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I also completely do not understand the light/dark level thing... at all. I think I'm missing paths because of it.

I don't understand it either. But it just bit me in the butt. I went back and tried to complete 4-2 and finally was making great progress. But I revised myself so I could dump the Cling Ring for another, and immediately face a couple of Black Phantom Gold Skeletons. So I made it through the part I have been having trouble with, only to hit a huge roadblock. I just saved it turned it off before facing them. I can't stand the thought of losing my progress. But apparently I died so much on this level that I turned it pure black.

For you, I like to go do 4-1. The Skeletons are tough, but doable. Plus you can get the Crescent Falchion, one of the best early level weapons there is.

If his world tendency is really pure black, he's not going to enjoy the guy waiting for him at the start of 4-1.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

The biggest adjustment is no estus flask - I think that's really the one thing making this so much more difficult. 20 estus swigs was plenty to get me from bonfire to bonfire. I've got nowhere near enough healing roots to feel comfortable progressing.

I went into 4-1 and got the sword early on - that's a nice sword. I'm slightly confused on the stats in this game too. I was wielding a ******* sword +2 two-handed and it looked like that should be better. In actual use, the crescent falchion +1 disposes enemies much faster.

You can only start weapons down the "crescent" line once you've gotten them up to +3 or +5. So Crescent +1 is really more like +4 or +6 (I forget which), and it adds magic damage. Way better than a "regular" +2 sword.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

I also completely do not understand the light/dark level thing... at all. I think I'm missing paths because of it.

I don't understand it either. But it just bit me in the butt. I went back and tried to complete 4-2 and finally was making great progress. But I revised myself so I could dump the Cling Ring for another, and immediately face a couple of Black Phantom Gold Skeletons. So I made it through the part I have been having trouble with, only to hit a huge roadblock. I just saved it turned it off before facing them. I can't stand the thought of losing my progress. But apparently I died so much on this level that I turned it pure black.

For you, I like to go do 4-1. The Skeletons are tough, but doable. Plus you can get the Crescent Falchion, one of the best early level weapons there is.

If his world tendency is really pure black, he's not going to enjoy the guy waiting for him at the start of 4-1.

Ivan likely knows more then me as I stopped playing Demons Souls when DSII came out but....

The whole light vs dark thing is basically...

Kill a lot of bad guys without dieing and the world goes/stays white.

If you die A LOT, the world goes dark/darker.

Killing bosses seems to raise you towards light substantially, but not enough to go from full suckitude to fully bright.

Also - There are pluses and minuses to being light or dark. Some enemy NPCs may only show up if the world is fully in one direction. There are levers/short cuts for those in another direction. Like all the Souls games there are just sooo so many hidden/next to impossible instances to find its really just better to play normal and hit the different storylines/random weird stuff in subsequent playthroughs. In other words, you're in or out. If you're not so in love that you want to find everything, then just muscle through any way you can. If the game appeals to you, its meant to be played through several times anyway and that's part of the experience.

 

[bigmarc27]

Started farming some grass since I was low then went through 4-1.

The adjudicator was a goofy-### boss. He only hit me once but I ran around for 5 minutes trying to figure out what to do. I kept running behind and hitting to no avail but I knew some of my shots landed because the sound effect changed. Eventually saw the wound in the front and it was easy from there. I kept reverting back to dark souls running up the stairs thinking I could plunge attack to no avail.

I walked into 4-2, watched the cut scene and noped out of there. I'll head back there soon, but that was a little more than I was ready to tackle tonight.

 

[TxBuckeye]

4-2 is all about bows and staying out of range of the bad guys. I bumped off one of the Black Phantom Golden Skeletons last night. Thief Ring and Bow. Fire, let him forget me, walk back, fire again. Took forever and a butt-load of arrows, and I have one more to go. But I'll rinse and repeat, then go restock my arrows before moving on. Have to say the 6k plus in souls when he went down was nice.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

4-1 has a ledge you can hop up with some patience to get the high ground on a semi tough enemy. He rewards you with some item that was pretty good early on, may have been a sword.

Apologies if you're beyond this.

 

[TxBuckeye]

Took out the second Black Phantom, went back and restocked my arrows, all ready to take on the last Phantom. Come back and around the corner, only to run in to a Black Phantom Dual Katana Skeleton. Had time to see him before I was dead in one swipe. So, I don't know what it is, but I just absolutely have no shot at completing 4-2. I had read playing online can reduce world tendency, so I logged on despite a fear of being invaded. But I went on to Tower of Latria. It does appear 4-2 is no longer black, so maybe I will try it again later. But for now, I'm going to see if I can just get through the tower level, which is probably 5-1?

By the way, does Black only apply if you are revived? In other words, did it only go Black because I screwed up and revived myself? Without the damn Black Phantoms, I think I was going to make it through that time.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Started farming some grass since I was low then went through 4-1.

The adjudicator was a goofy-### boss. He only hit me once but I ran around for 5 minutes trying to figure out what to do. I kept running behind and hitting to no avail but I knew some of my shots landed because the sound effect changed. Eventually saw the wound in the front and it was easy from there. I kept reverting back to dark souls running up the stairs thinking I could plunge attack to no avail.

I walked into 4-2, watched the cut scene and noped out of there. I'll head back there soon, but that was a little more than I was ready to tackle tonight.

The beginning of 4-2 is a great farming spot if you have a decent bow.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Took out the second Black Phantom, went back and restocked my arrows, all ready to take on the last Phantom. Come back and around the corner, only to run in to a Black Phantom Dual Katana Skeleton. Had time to see him before I was dead in one swipe. So, I don't know what it is, but I just absolutely have no shot at completing 4-2. I had read playing online can reduce world tendency, so I logged on despite a fear of being invaded. But I went on to Tower of Latria. It does appear 4-2 is no longer black, so maybe I will try it again later. But for now, I'm going to see if I can just get through the tower level, which is probably 5-1?

By the way, does Black only apply if you are revived? In other words, did it only go Black because I screwed up and revived myself? Without the damn Black Phantoms, I think I was going to make it through that time.

The world only turns black if you die while in human form (or if you kill certain NPCs). If you die in soul form, world tendency is unaffected. If you accidentally turned world 4 black, it's probably because you kept reviving as human and kept dying.

Sometimes it is advantageous to have pure black world tendency, so people will deliberately revive and suicide over and over again to darken the world. That's for farming and completionist purposes. The dual katana black phantom skeleton in 4-2 can easily be farmed in NG+ for six figures worth of souls at a time if you have the right loadout. He's also one of only two enemies in the entire game that drop pure bladestone (something like a 1% chance or some other ridiculously low number).

 

[TxBuckeye]

Took out the second Black Phantom, went back and restocked my arrows, all ready to take on the last Phantom. Come back and around the corner, only to run in to a Black Phantom Dual Katana Skeleton. Had time to see him before I was dead in one swipe. So, I don't know what it is, but I just absolutely have no shot at completing 4-2. I had read playing online can reduce world tendency, so I logged on despite a fear of being invaded. But I went on to Tower of Latria. It does appear 4-2 is no longer black, so maybe I will try it again later. But for now, I'm going to see if I can just get through the tower level, which is probably 5-1?

By the way, does Black only apply if you are revived? In other words, did it only go Black because I screwed up and revived myself? Without the damn Black Phantoms, I think I was going to make it through that time.

The world only turns black if you die while in human form (or if you kill certain NPCs). If you die in soul form, world tendency is unaffected. If you accidentally turned world 4 black, it's probably because you kept reviving as human and kept dying.

Sometimes it is advantageous to have pure black world tendency, so people will deliberately revive and suicide over and over again to darken the world. That's for farming and completionist purposes. The dual katana black phantom skeleton in 4-2 can easily be farmed in NG+ for six figures worth of souls at a time if you have the right loadout. He's also one of only two enemies in the entire game that drop pure bladestone (something like a 1% chance or some other ridiculously low number).

Yea, not interested in trying to farm at this point. Just want to complete that ####### level. Funny, I'm not at all worried about the level boss. But I can't get to it.

 

[bigmarc27]

I finished up level 2. The dragon boss at the end was pretty cool.

Also got invaded twice - first time I got whipped pretty easily. The second time though, I got him! Dough_boy69 or something like that went home a loser! I do have to give him some credit though - when he invaded I was in the middle of killing some stuff. He waited and let me finish the enemies off then heal before he came in to duel. That was pretty cool.

So far I've done:

1-1

1-2

2-1

2-2

2-3

4-1

I had to have been near the end of 3-1, I just couldn't find the stupid key.

 

[TxBuckeye]

So you already beat the Flamelurker??

 

[bigmarc27]

So you already beat the Flamelurker??

That's the guy that looks like cinder from killer instinct at the end of 2-2? Yeah, got him like 30 mins ago. I just run with that crescent falchion sword and I two-hand it.

Edit: I don't know if I'm over leveled? I just looked and I'm a 45 with about 9.5 hours played. I've found this game to not be quite as difficult as early dark souls. The huge knight at 1-2 took me two tries and the spider took me two tries. Everyone else has been a first attempt.

Honestly the only thing that's killed me more than twice was the knight in the first world who would run at you with the lance. He was a pain.

 

[TxBuckeye]

So you already beat the Flamelurker??

That's the guy that looks like cinder from killer instinct at the end of 2-2? Yeah, got him like 30 mins ago.

I just run with that crescent falchion sword and I two-hand it.

I don't know since I don't know the movie. But it is supposedly one of the toughest bosses out there. I crushed the area, but he crushed me. Got stuck on some bones and it was over in seconds.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

So you already beat the Flamelurker??

That's the guy that looks like cinder from killer instinct at the end of 2-2? Yeah, got him like 30 mins ago.

I just run with that crescent falchion sword and I two-hand it.

I don't know since I don't know the movie. But it is supposedly one of the toughest bosses out there. I crushed the area, but he crushed me. Got stuck on some bones and it was over in seconds.

I will admit that I only beat this guy straight-up once. Every other time I just glitched him. If there was a checkpoint I would have fought fair, but it's a long way from the spawn back to Flamelurker.

 

[TxBuckeye]

I will admit that I only beat this guy straight-up once. Every other time I just glitched him. If there was a checkpoint I would have fought fair, but it's a long way from the spawn back to Flamelurker.

My biggest knock against the game to be honest. I am past the point of caring about the souls. But to have to fight through the whole area again, it just hurts me.

 

[bigmarc27]

So you already beat the Flamelurker??

That's the guy that looks like cinder from killer instinct at the end of 2-2? Yeah, got him like 30 mins ago.

I just run with that crescent falchion sword and I two-hand it.

I don't know since I don't know the movie. But it is supposedly one of the toughest bosses out there. I crushed the area, but he crushed me. Got stuck on some bones and it was over in seconds.

I will admit that I only beat this guy straight-up once. Every other time I just glitched him. If there was a checkpoint I would have fought fair, but it's a long way from the spawn back to Flamelurker.

I mean I used a lot of the full healing grasses - probably 7 or 8 of them. I just would roll under him when he came in to do the hulk smash, try to get two swipes and run away. Maybe I'm a bit over leveled.

 

[bigmarc27]

Like I said, I'd be happy to co-op if we can figure out how. I really don't know how it works though. I need to look at my psn I'd too - still new the ps3 since I just got it earlier this year.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I will admit that I only beat this guy straight-up once. Every other time I just glitched him. If there was a checkpoint I would have fought fair, but it's a long way from the spawn back to Flamelurker.

My biggest knock against the game to be honest. I am past the point of caring about the souls. But to have to fight through the whole area again, it just hurts me.

I love the Souls games, but there's something to be said for easy access to a tough boss and for letting you spar against the guy if you need to. I remember fighting Liquid a bunch of times in MGS4 just to get to where I could handle him comfortably before I tried a super-hard run. The Souls games need to figure out a way to let you do that instead of encouraging people to take shortcuts.

For instance, they did it right with Ornstein and Smough in Dark Souls. You spawn 30 seconds away and can just dash there, so you can really sink your teeth into an awesome boss fight. Other levels suffer badly in comparison.

 

[TxBuckeye]

For instance, they did it right with Ornstein and Smough in Dark Souls. You spawn 30 seconds away and can just dash there, so you can really sink your teeth into an awesome boss fight. Other levels suffer badly in comparison.

Exactly. They almost force you to watch youtube vids because who can really afford to lose 20 or 30 minutes of play over and over to figure it out on your own?

 

[IvanKaramazov]

For instance, they did it right with Ornstein and Smough in Dark Souls. You spawn 30 seconds away and can just dash there, so you can really sink your teeth into an awesome boss fight. Other levels suffer badly in comparison.

Exactly. They almost force you to watch youtube vids because who can really afford to lose 20 or 30 minutes of play over and over to figure it out on your own?

Yep. There's a fine line here. I want the game to be challenging, but making me trek through the whole level again just to reach the boss is cheap and incentivizes youtubing it. That's something I don't want. The tough-as-nails difficulty is great. Just put a bonfire right before each boss so I can savor what you created instead of getting cheap because I have limited gaming time.

 

[bigmarc27]

At the 1-3 boss. He kicked my ###.

I think I might run around world 3 for a bit before I try him again. It wasn't close.

 

[TxBuckeye]

What level are you bm27? You peaked my interest since you said you may have been overpowered when fighting Flamelurker. It doesn't seem you are all THAT far in to the game. Did you do a lot of farming or anything?

 

[bigmarc27]

What level are you bm27? You peaked my interest since you said you may have been overpowered when fighting Flamelurker. It doesn't seem you are all THAT far in to the game. Did you do a lot of farming or anything?

I'm like a 47, but put nearly all of my points into vitality and endurance. My vitality is like a 31 and end is maybe 24 or so? I've put a few points in strength but nothing else. I did a little bit of farming moreso because I needed grasses, but that pumped up my levels for a bit.

 

[bigmarc27]

The boss on 1-3 (penetrator?) thumped me last night. It's going to be a bit before I try that one again.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

At the 1-3 boss. He kicked my ###.

I think I might run around world 3 for a bit before I try him again. It wasn't close.

I think you can unlock an NPC from a prison in 1-3, and he's really helpful in fighting that boss since he distracts the guy away from you. I don't recall exactly where he is -- I think you have to go backwards slightly from the start of 1-3 and you need a prison key that you get from killing the fat guy near that shortcut gate. You're probably better off looking it up on the wiki than going by my half-assed directions.

 

[TxBuckeye]

What level are you bm27? You peaked my interest since you said you may have been overpowered when fighting Flamelurker. It doesn't seem you are all THAT far in to the game. Did you do a lot of farming or anything?

I'm like a 47, but put nearly all of my points into vitality and endurance. My vitality is like a 31 and end is maybe 24 or so? I've put a few points in strength but nothing else. I did a little bit of farming moreso because I needed grasses, but that pumped up my levels for a bit.

That's about where I am. Bumped my faith to 16 in anticipation of second chance, but everything else in vitality and endurance. My issue is likely that I just suck at the game.

 

[bigmarc27]

At the 1-3 boss. He kicked my ###.

I think I might run around world 3 for a bit before I try him again. It wasn't close.

I think you can unlock an NPC from a prison in 1-3, and he's really helpful in fighting that boss since he distracts the guy away from you. I don't recall exactly where he is -- I think you have to go backwards slightly from the start of 1-3 and you need a prison key that you get from killing the fat guy near that shortcut gate. You're probably better off looking it up on the wiki than going by my half-assed directions.

Unlocked him and went and took down 1-3. After that I decided to do the tower of atria - got lost again and ran around for probably an hour. Finally made it to the boss - that was kind of a joke boss too. I've stopped for now, but will probably do level 3-2 tomorrow.

I feel like the bosses are a bit easier than in Dark Souls - they're kinda cool in that they have weakness and different ways to kill them, but I haven't found them as tough.

 

[TxBuckeye]

I'm in Latria now. Seems like pretty easy going. I am near the big arrow firing machine. Did die once when I fell off an unseen ledge. But it took maybe maybe two minutes to get back to it and pick up my souls. Got the Jailor's Hallway key or whatever. So almost boss time. Just need time to play, which has been pretty rare lately. Have show tickets tonight to see Fluffy, so doubt it gets done today either.

You seem to be tearing through it all pretty quick bm.

 

[bigmarc27]

I'm in Latria now. Seems like pretty easy going. I am near the big arrow firing machine. Did die once when I fell off an unseen ledge. But it took maybe maybe two minutes to get back to it and pick up my souls. Got the Jailor's Hallway key or whatever. So almost boss time. Just need time to play, which has been pretty rare lately. Have show tickets tonight to see Fluffy, so doubt it gets done today either.You seem to be tearing through it all pretty quick bm.

Tower of Latria is pretty cool, I just got lost a few times.

Yeah, I've been moving through at a quick pace. My wife is in grad school so when she's studying, I put on the headphones and play. There's basically 90 minutes a day where she's reading or taking tests, so my video game time has gone up a lot.

 

[TxBuckeye]

Hoping to get a shot at the False Idol while the wife is prepping for the show. It is hard for me to play these short stints though. I need to "warm up" with this game to play well. I just don't get there playing 30 minutes at a time.

 

[bigmarc27]

Hoping to get a shot at the False Idol while the wife is prepping for the show. It is hard for me to play these short stints though. I need to "warm up" with this game to play well. I just don't get there playing 30 minutes at a time.

That's the problem with this game... It would be one thing if you could save right outside the boss or half-way through a level. By not allowing that, it forces you to play for an amount of time that actually takes a commitment. That's cool if I'm 19 and in college, but I'm 32 years old. Sometimes I only have 15 minutes to play.

I also hate not having a pause button - I get that it's hardcore or whatever, but if the UPS guy comes to the door let me pause the game.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I feel like the bosses are a bit easier than in Dark Souls - they're kinda cool in that they have weakness and different ways to kill them, but I haven't found them as tough.

Agreed. Most of the bosses in Demon's Souls are pretty easy with just a few exceptions. Dark Souls bosses are quite a bit tougher IMO.

 

[TxBuckeye]

Quick question that likely won't get answered in time but I'll try. Do I have to free Freke before the boss battle? Or can I fight the boss, then warp back to 3-1 and just retrace my steps and free him? I really don't want to backtrack to his cell and lose my way. But if I have too, I have too.

 

[TxBuckeye]

Good session. Took out the False Idol or whatever she's called. Then went back to 4-2 and finally kicked the crap out of that level (I was no longer pure black). Took out the Old Hero. Went back and got Second Chance. Realized I couldn't cast it, so loaded up the miracle that takes you back to the Nexus. Farmed 4-2 quick, would kill the Reaper then Evacuate (that's it) back to the Nexus. Two Intel upgrades was enough if I put on the little Silver Crown thing you got in 4-2. So now I can cast second chance and have a little protection. No idea where I will go next. Maybe back to Stonefang to try Flamelurker again. Or back to the Tower to free Sage Freke.

 

[bigmarc27]

Good session. Took out the False Idol or whatever she's called. Then went back to 4-2 and finally kicked the crap out of that level (I was no longer pure black). Took out the Old Hero. Went back and got Second Chance. Realized I couldn't cast it, so loaded up the miracle that takes you back to the Nexus. Farmed 4-2 quick, would kill the Reaper then Evacuate (that's it) back to the Nexus. Two Intel upgrades was enough if I put on the little Silver Crown thing you got in 4-2. So now I can cast second chance and have a little protection. No idea where I will go next. Maybe back to Stonefang to try Flamelurker again. Or back to the Tower to free Sage Freke.

I played a little bit of 3-2 this morning... Got to the second fog gate at the bottom (you'll know what I mean when you get there), but had to turn the game off. Will try and finish that one up later on. I'm assuming that the 3rd level in every world is just a boss (like in 2)? If so, I gotta believe I can finish up world 3 and world 4 in a few hours.

I could be way off, but this game looks to be much shorter - it took me 35 or so hours to beat dark souls - I'm not at 14 hours in this, but I think I can finish everything except world 5 and 1-4 in a few hours. Maybe/maybe not.

 

[TxBuckeye]

I think I've done everything I did the first time I had the game. I never even saw Flamelurker in my first run-through. So it's all going to be new (and harder) from here on out.

Edit: Went back and freed Freke, so now I was able to get Soul Ray.

 

[bigmarc27]

The boss at the end of 3-2 - Maneater.

####. That. Boss.

I've died more on this boss than all the others combined... probably double the deaths of all the others combined. Being a 100% me lee character isn't helping either, but he's giving me a headache.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Good session. Took out the False Idol or whatever she's called. Then went back to 4-2 and finally kicked the crap out of that level (I was no longer pure black). Took out the Old Hero. Went back and got Second Chance. Realized I couldn't cast it, so loaded up the miracle that takes you back to the Nexus. Farmed 4-2 quick, would kill the Reaper then Evacuate (that's it) back to the Nexus. Two Intel upgrades was enough if I put on the little Silver Crown thing you got in 4-2. So now I can cast second chance and have a little protection. No idea where I will go next. Maybe back to Stonefang to try Flamelurker again. Or back to the Tower to free Sage Freke.

Protip: You can kill the guy at the start of 4-1, and then just jump off the cliff in the back of that cave, respawning at the start. Snipe the guy again, touch your bloodstain, and rinse and repeat until you feel like returning to the nexus. No need to Evacuate every time. That speeds up the farming process quite a bit. If you want, you can add the dual-katana skeleton in room off one of the staircases to your farming run, although that adds some more risk. Only downside is screwing up and losing the souls you farmed, which you can just re-farm.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

The boss at the end of 3-2 - Maneater.

####. That. Boss.

I've died more on this boss than all the others combined... probably double the deaths of all the others combined. Being a 100% me lee character isn't helping either, but he's giving me a headache.

This one is glitch-able, at least to some degree. Do you have an upgraded bow? If so, you can get the fog gate and get your face right up in it without triggering it. You'll be able to see Maneater. Now snipe him through the fog gate. Try the left-most "corner" of the fog door. You'll use a ton of arrows but you'll take him out eventually. (This won't work with a fire bow, because it will bounce him back out of your range). Now you can enter the fog gate and just fight the on guy instead of two.

For melee combat, I use the brazier in the middle. Try to keep it between you and Maneater. Properly positioned, I think it blocks his AOE attack and gives you an opportunity to eat grass. In the meantime, poke him with a spear until he dies.

Edit: Firestorm messes these guys up pretty badly. If you're a mage, you can beat this boss straight-up without too much trouble just by firestorming the first guy quickly before his buddy shows up. Actually, Firestorm makes a joke of quite a few bosses, especially 5-1, 5-2, and 1-1 on NG+.

 

[bigmarc27]

Good session. Took out the False Idol or whatever she's called. Then went back to 4-2 and finally kicked the crap out of that level (I was no longer pure black). Took out the Old Hero. Went back and got Second Chance. Realized I couldn't cast it, so loaded up the miracle that takes you back to the Nexus. Farmed 4-2 quick, would kill the Reaper then Evacuate (that's it) back to the Nexus. Two Intel upgrades was enough if I put on the little Silver Crown thing you got in 4-2. So now I can cast second chance and have a little protection. No idea where I will go next. Maybe back to Stonefang to try Flamelurker again. Or back to the Tower to free Sage Freke.

I played a little bit of 3-2 this morning... Got to the second fog gate at the bottom (you'll know what I mean when you get there), but had to turn the game off. Will try and finish that one up later on. I'm assuming that the 3rd level in every world is just a boss (like in 2)? If so, I gotta believe I can finish up world 3 and world 4 in a few hours.

I could be way off, but this game looks to be much shorter - it took me 35 or so hours to beat dark souls - I'm not at 14 hours in this, but I think I can finish everything except world 5 and 1-4 in a few hours. Maybe/maybe not.

I was maybe a wee bit over zealous here. I'm farming souls in 4-2 right now because I can't beat Maneater. I just can't get him, so trying to farm souls and the dark moonstone.

I'd also like to add the 2nd chance spell or whatever, but I'm sure I'd have to put a lot of points somewhere that I haven't touched yet.

 

[TxBuckeye]

I'd also like to add the 2nd chance spell or whatever, but I'm sure I'd have to put a lot of points somewhere that I haven't touched yet.

You need to have your Faith at 16, and 100 MP to cast it. That's really all. And of course the proper Demon Soul to acquire it. I only had to do two Faith upgrades and two Intel upgrades to be able to cast (with the Silver Coronet on).

How many strength upgrades before Attack Power starts going up? Thought about trying that route out some. But don't want to find it would take me three or four level ups to start seeing any benefit.

Edit: Disregard. Looks like the Magic stat is what raises the Crescent Falchion attack power, not strength or Dex. Good thing I didn't waste any upgrades.