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Denard Robinson Stat Correction: How are you handling it? (1 Viewer)

everydayj

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http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25426308/denard-robinson-stat-correction-swings-a-bunch-of-fantasy-semi-final-matchups

The final score for my semi-finals match-up, pending stat corrections, was 157-159. The stat correction came out THIS MORNING and turned it into a tie. I won on the tie-breaker.

Some owners say that they're going to quit the league as the finals match-up had already been locked and set before the stat correction took hold.

Anybody else affected by this? How would you handle this? Would you go with the correction match-up or would you simply rig it back to the match-ups before the correction occurred? I'm on ESPN and it changed it for me.

 
I have checked multiple league I am in (6) I have not seen one stat correction for D. Robinson.

Elias did not make a Denard Change to a stat.

 
Any league worth their salt should have a "scores are official after X date/time/official scoring" clause that should have dealt with this. If not, and if the Robinson scoring adjustment came in AFTER the start of last nights game......I don't see how any league worth their salt would allow the Robinson adjustment to occur.

 
MFL isn't reflecting it, but they also state they have a policy that if it isn't reported by Thursday 10 am ET then results go final. This is with the default checked to update for stat changes. Usually they announce stat changes by Wednesday, and MFL applies it Thursday morning. Why did this take so long to report? I assume it came from fumble yardage lost on a Robinson run. Did last night's messed up scoring on the play before the half lead them to revisit that play? These guys need to get their crap together and score things correctly in a timely manner.

I won a close game in the semis last week facing Robinson. Fortunately I won by just enough that it didn't matter. But it almost did.

 
Any league worth their salt should have a "scores are official after X date/time/official scoring" clause that should have dealt with this. If not, and if the Robinson scoring adjustment came in AFTER the start of last nights game......I don't see how any league worth their salt would allow the Robinson adjustment to occur.
It looks like ESPN and/or CBS did not give leagues the option of ignoring the stat change.

 
MFL isn't reflecting it, but they also state they have a policy that if it isn't reported by Thursday 10 am ET then results go final. This is with the default checked to update for stat changes. Usually they announce stat changes by Wednesday, and MFL applies it Thursday morning. Why did this take so long to report? I assume it came from fumble yardage lost on a Robinson run. Did last night's messed up scoring on the play before the half lead them to revisit that play? These guys need to get their crap together and score things correctly in a timely manner.

I won a close game in the semis last week facing Robinson. Fortunately I won by just enough that it didn't matter. But it almost did.
That's when our games are declared final.After that oh well

 
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I would have had a dilemma if Matt Prater had made that field goal at the end of the game Monday night. I was down 2.5 points in my semi, would have won by .5 if he made the FG, only I was playing the Denard Robinson owner. MFL didn't fix the stat change and my rules clearly state we're subject to MFLs stat change rules, but you know being that I'm commish it probably would have caused bad blood with the guy I would have beaten as you know he probably would request I fix it. Even though I'd be in the right not to.

 
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Did anyone get clarification on the reason this play was scored the way it was? Everything I have read in NFL rules is that they are scoring it incorrect. Am I understanding this correctly?

(Article 4. Loose Ball)
A Loose Ball is a live ball that is not in player possession, i.e., any ball that has been kicked, passed, or fumbled. A Loose Ball is considered to be in possession of the team (offense) whose player kicked, passed, or fumbled it. It is a Loose Ball until a player secures possession or until the ball becomes dead. If it has not yet struck the ground, a Loose Ball is In Flight.

(Article 5. Fumble)
A Fumble is any act, other than passing, handing, or legally kicking the ball, which results in a loss of player possession. The use of the term Fumble always means that the ball was in possession of a player when the act occurred.

(Article 3. Running Play)
A Running Play begins in the following situations:
(F.)If there is a running play followed by a fumble or a backward pass, a new Running Play begins when a player of either team establishes possession of the ball.
A Running Play ends:
(A.)When the ball is declared dead; or
(B.)When a runner loses or relinquishes possession by a Fumble or a backward pass; or
(C.)When a player of either team throws an illegal forward pass beyond the line of scrimmage or when there is not a line of scrimmage.
**Note: The running play includes the loose-ball action before a player gains or regains possession or the ball is declared dead.**
B. A teammate or opponent who recovers shall be credited with fumble yardage for any gain or loss from the point of recovery. For opponets’s recovery yardage, this includes yards gained to advance the ball out of their own end zone. *EXCEPTION*: when a teammate recovers behind the line of scrimmage, positive fumble yardage begins at the line of scrimmage. Yardage gained up to the line of scrimmage is used to reduce the negative fumble yardage of the fumbling player.

When a fumbled ball is touched, legally batted, or kicked by any player (including the player who fumbled), and the spot of this action is behind the spot of the fumble, charge the player who fumbles with yardage lost (in the category initiating the action) to the spot of the first such touch, bat, or kick; the rest of the rest of the yardage is loose-ball yardage. The act of forcing a fumble is not considered a touch. If any opponent eventually gains possession, his fumble yardage shall be credited from the spot at which he gains possession.

2-1-JAC 29 (9:41) (Shotgun) 16-D.Robinson up the middle to JAC 28 for -1 yards (95-J.Babineaux). FUMBLES (95-J.Babineaux), touched at JAC 30, recovered by JAC-88-A.Hurns at JAC 16. 88-A.Hurns to JAC 16 for no gain (20-P.Adams).
If a player (Denard Robinson) fumbles the ball behind the line of scrimmage(28 yard line) and the ball is touched/batted in front of the spot of the fumble(30 yard line) and the ball is than recovered 13 yards behind the line of scrimmage (16 yard line) by a teammate (Allen Hurns), the recovering player (Allen Hurns) can gain the yardage back for the fumbling player (Denard Robinson) up to the line of scrimmage, which than any yards gained beyond the line of scrimmage would be credited to the recovering player (Allen Hurns). Which should result in -13 yards for the fumbling player (Denard Robinson), on this play once the fumble was recovered it was not advanced from the point of the loss by the recovering player(Allen Hurns).

 
  • We are aware the NFL is crediting Denard Robinson with a total of 41 rushing yards for his Week 15 matchup. Since the first game of Week 16 has begun, all matchups are considered final, and no further changes or stat corrections will be applied.
 
I was in the semi-finals last week, lost 138 to 139.

I set my roster yesterday morning for what I thought was the consolation game only to find out it was the championship matchup.

ESPN changed D. Robinson's points by +1.30.

I won 140 to 139.

JACKPOT.

 
This is going on in my league and I'm not happy. If the stat correction is applied I go from winning 1st to 3rd. That's BS. It's up for a league vote and I've won the league the last three years so I'm thinking people are going to say apply the correction.

Personally I think it's crap. Games already started. I'd vote that way if I didn't have any dog in the fight. It's dumb we don't have a rule,about this already

 
This is going on in my league and I'm not happy. If the stat correction is applied I go from winning 1st to 3rd. That's BS. It's up for a league vote and I've won the league the last three years so I'm thinking people are going to say apply the correction.

Personally I think it's crap. Games already started. I'd vote that way if I didn't have any dog in the fight. It's dumb we don't have a rule,about this already
Most sites have rules regarding when results become "final." Many leagues put this explicitly in their rules to avoid situations like this.

While it would be small consolation should you win on the field and lose by league vote, I think it should allow you to push for such a rule to be codified going forward. And you can still count it a win in your own mind and recordkeeping.

 
I had Robinson playing, correction took place in game. Wouldn't have mattered enough in our game anyway.

Get it written into your bylaws... exactly when games become final. FWIW - our scores are final roughly the same time the NFL scores are final (hour after final gun, give or take).

 
This is going on in my league and I'm not happy. If the stat correction is applied I go from winning 1st to 3rd. That's BS. It's up for a league vote and I've won the league the last three years so I'm thinking people are going to say apply the correction.

Personally I think it's crap. Games already started. I'd vote that way if I didn't have any dog in the fight. It's dumb we don't have a rule,about this already
Most sites have rules regarding when results become "final." Many leagues put this explicitly in their rules to avoid situations like this.While it would be small consolation should you win on the field and lose by league vote, I think it should allow you to push for such a rule to be codified going forward. And you can still count it a win in your own mind and recordkeeping.
Ive already talked to the commish about a rule. Frustrating, but to be honest I'm getting burned out from fantasy this season. Thinking next year might be my last. Just hard to walk away from a winning team

 
I had Robinson playing, correction took place in game. Wouldn't have mattered enough in our game anyway.

Get it written into your bylaws... exactly when games become final. FWIW - our scores are final roughly the same time the NFL scores are final (hour after final gun, give or take).
Curious what site you use for the league that allows you the option of NOT accepting stat corrections in the day or so following the game.

 
I had Robinson playing, correction took place in game. Wouldn't have mattered enough in our game anyway.

Get it written into your bylaws... exactly when games become final. FWIW - our scores are final roughly the same time the NFL scores are final (hour after final gun, give or take).
Curious what site you use for the league that allows you the option of NOT accepting stat corrections in the day or so following the game.
If this occurs, Commish can manually correct the score.

EDIT: My bad, I just went and checked our bylaws... NFL game scores are final/official approximately 1 hour after the final gun... our fantasy scores are final/official approximately 1 hour after the final game of the week (MNF typically). In a nutshell, once the website goes through it's weekly update (~hour following MNF) our scores are final. No retroactive adjustments are allowed following that point.

 
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MFL isn't reflecting it, but they also state they have a policy that if it isn't reported by Thursday 10 am ET then results go final. This is with the default checked to update for stat changes. Usually they announce stat changes by Wednesday, and MFL applies it Thursday morning. Why did this take so long to report? I assume it came from fumble yardage lost on a Robinson run. Did last night's messed up scoring on the play before the half lead them to revisit that play? These guys need to get their crap together and score things correctly in a timely manner.

I won a close game in the semis last week facing Robinson. Fortunately I won by just enough that it didn't matter. But it almost did.
Yes I lost my matchup by 1 and should have won by 1 but we have MFL and all games are final on Thursday morning. Did ESPN recognize this before fantasy match ups went final? If so I may be changing sites

 
I had Robinson playing, correction took place in game. Wouldn't have mattered enough in our game anyway.

Get it written into your bylaws... exactly when games become final. FWIW - our scores are final roughly the same time the NFL scores are final (hour after final gun, give or take).
Curious what site you use for the league that allows you the option of NOT accepting stat corrections in the day or so following the game.
MFL you can turn off stat updates.

 
I had Robinson playing, correction took place in game. Wouldn't have mattered enough in our game anyway.

Get it written into your bylaws... exactly when games become final. FWIW - our scores are final roughly the same time the NFL scores are final (hour after final gun, give or take).
Curious what site you use for the league that allows you the option of NOT accepting stat corrections in the day or so following the game.
MFL you can turn off stat updates.
Where? I couldn't find it
 

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