Denver at Indianapolis (1 Viewer)

[Popinski]

Could have been a great ending if Hillman didn't fumble at the end and the Broncos scored a TD. Luck would have been in position for the game winning drive, or Peyton if there was still time left after that...

 

[Courtjester]

Good job Colts.

But very costly victory for them with all the injuries.

Just don't know what Denver is going to do about the RB situation and the fumbles.

Denver comes back strong against Wash and then the bye and then the big 3 games....

 

[BoltBacker]

Yeah, it was a good game. These "home coming" games seem to always be crazy. You never know who's going to get them.

Looked to me like Manning thought of it as a playoff game for sure.

 

[GoodLloydHaveMercy]

Vontae Davis just said the colts prepared for Tom Brady hahaha

 

[Arschloch]

Nice call, Bob Costas -- making fun of Vontae Davis.

 

[ffldrew]

In the end it's tough to ask even Peyton Manning to overcome 2 crucial fumbles and a number of 15 yard unsportsmanlike penalties

 

[HellToupee]

Vontae Davis just said the colts prepared for Tom Brady hahaha

I had to rewind to make sure I heard what I thought heard

 

[Fantasy Benchwarmer]

Hopefully Denver gets one of their OT's back. Changed the whole game not having a starting OT. I think most people don't realize Denver lost both during this season. Denver can't block right now. Denver hung in their with their backup OT's. Hope they meet in the playoffs. Can't wait for the KC game.

 

[The Man Who Met Andy Griffith]

Yeah, it was a good game. These "home coming" games seem to always be crazy. You never know who's going to get them.

Looked to me like Manning thought of it as a playoff game for sure.

lol

 

[GoodLloydHaveMercy]

Good job Colts.

But very costly victory for them with all the injuries.

Just don't know what Denver is going to do about the RB situation and the fumbles.

Denver comes back strong against Wash and then the bye and then the big 3 games....

Why not get CJ Anderson ready for after the bye in 3 weeks?? Can't he do what montee ball and hillman do?? I'd like to see him have a chance to fumble at the 3 yd line

 

[Mile High]

Just don't understand Hillman getting the ball inside the 2.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Vontae Davis just said the colts prepared for Tom Brady hahaha

I had to rewind to make sure I heard what I thought heard

Dumb as a box of rocks, main reason Miami traded him.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Just don't understand Hillman getting the ball inside the 2.

Neither did Tony Dungy after the game. Said it was the wrong call.

 

[j3r3m3y]

Manning's arm looks dead... I wonder if thats why he's been game managing and handing off all night?

It's been like that for awhile, he makes up for it with his incredible football IQ, preparation, touch passes and adjustments.

No he got drilled in the neck on that sack...

Does his neck have a huge effect on his arm strength though? It could hurt his ability see the entire field if it stiffens up and force him to throw the ball quicker than he wants to if he's afraid of getting hit up high again, but I'm not sure how much of an effect it has on his zip on the ball. I could be way off though.

As i understand it, it definitely sapped his arm strength in his last year in Indy. The first six games of this year he seemed to have his old zip. I believe if there is any degree of spinal compression, you'll get an accompanying degree of limited feel/strength. It may be effectively a "stinger" and he'll be fine after some treatment, but I doubt it for the rest of this game. Going forward, who knows, but it just shows he's always, as much as any top tier guy, one hit away.

Might be time to sell high on all the Denver guys apart from Demariyus who's not exactly high right now.

Selling Denver players now, I laugh.

Better to get out one game early rather than one game too late..

380 yards and 3 TD's, holy #### Sell! Sell! Sell!

 

[Hoss Style]

Hopefully Denver gets one of their OT's back. Changed the whole game not having a starting OT. I think most people don't realize Denver lost both during this season. Denver can't block right now. Denver hung in their with their backup OT's. Hope they meet in the playoffs. Can't wait for the KC game.

Yeah, half our OLine is gone, but every team has injuries. We know about these because we are homers. I'm sure the other fans out there can cite crucial injuries for their team too.

It does hurt us big time, but it's fun to imagine if they weren't hurt too.

 

[Arschloch]

Vontae Davis just said the colts prepared for Tom Brady hahaha

I had to rewind to make sure I heard what I thought heard

Dumb as a box of rocks, main reason Miami traded him.

Maybe he was using it to insult Manning... i.e., pretending like Manning isn't good enough for the Colts D to know who he is.

He should've said, "Yeah, well, we were prepared for Blaine Gabbert..."

 

[The Man Who Met Andy Griffith]

Fox is so dumb. Goes for 2 and doesn't get it; now down by 9 instead of 8. Hillman in at the goaline, fumbles. Then, wastes 50 seconds and clock is down to 0.12 before kicking the field goal. = Loss.

He's really not a good coach but as the season progresses more folks will see this. How do you not win the Super Bowl with Peyton back there? 2 in a row if he misses this year again.

I don't know, what explained the 13 of Peyton's previous 14 seasons where he didn't win a superbowl? One-dimensional offensive juggernauts almost never win the SB. The 2007 Pats were a lot better than these Broncos and they didn't win.

BTW, it's not like Fox is widely perceived as a great coach.

 

[T with T]

Just don't understand Hillman getting the ball inside the 2.

ya a fumble prone bum or Knowshon... Comeon that lost them the game.. Give the damn ball to Knowshon!!!!

 

[pizzatyme]

Very proud oft home team here. I hope Reggie Wayne is okay.

Sorry to see you go, Peyton.

Luck was terrific! The future looks bright.

 

[Bad_Mo]

Fox is so dumb. Goes for 2 and doesn't get it; now down by 9 instead of 8. Hillman in at the goaline, fumbles. Then, wastes 50 seconds and clock is down to 0.12 before kicking the field goal. = Loss.

Yeah but the staff really likes Hillman and Ball...no need to have Moreno in there at that spot.

Fox deserves the loss for his stupid decisions with his RBs.

 

[Bad_Mo]

Just don't understand Hillman getting the ball inside the 2.

Fox being a genius in-game tactician

 

[Hoss Style]

Just don't understand Hillman getting the ball inside the 2.

ya a fumble prone bum or Knowshon... Comeon that lost them the game.. Give the damn ball to Knowshon!!!!

This really does bug me on so many levels - you take out Moreno who has been playing great this season; you put in Hillman who is crappy and fumbles the ball; you put in a smaller RB for a goal line run that usually calls for the bigger, stronger player; you take the ball out of Peyton's hands who just went down the entire length of the field in an instant; the Colts secondary was in disarray the entire drive; Welker was catching everything thrown his way and the D was ripe for a short crossing or out route at that point.

I hate to bash calls because honestly coaches know more about their team and the game than any of the people that "think" they know, but this was really a weird call. I'd like to hear Gase's (Denver's O-coordinator) reasoning for this.

 

[Ghost Rider]

I hate to pick on a coach who is 19-4 since the start of last season, but Fox seem to go all stupid with some decisions like he did in the loss to the Ravens last January. Plus, all of those undisciplined penalties...those are squarely on coaching.

 

[purestrength]

Just left the stadium and haven't kept up with this board or TV coverage.

Have mixed feelings about the result. Just wondering why Hillman got the goal-line carry instead of Moreno.

Also hope Reggie Wayne is OK.

 

[BoltBacker]

Fox is so dumb. Goes for 2 and doesn't get it; now down by 9 instead of 8. Hillman in at the goaline, fumbles. Then, wastes 50 seconds and clock is down to 0.12 before kicking the field goal. = Loss.

He's really not a good coach but as the season progresses more folks will see this. How do you not win the Super Bowl with Peyton back there? 2 in a row if he misses this year again.

I don't know, what explained the 13 of Peyton's previous 14 seasons where he didn't win a superbowl? One-dimensional offensive juggernauts almost never win the SB.

I didn't really understand that comment either. The one year where he didn't disappoint in the playoffs was the year he out-dueled REX GROSSMAN in the superbowl. That was back in his prime. I don't think he's close to his prime and I don't see anyone from the NFC making it to the superbowl with a Grossman-esque starting QB.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Just left the stadium and haven't kept up with this board or TV coverage.

Have mixed feelings about the result. Just wondering why Hillman got the goal-line carry instead of Moreno.

Also hope Reggie Wayne is OK.

Us as well but he had tears in his eyes after meeting the medics on the sideline, limped into the locker room, doesn't look good.

 

[wormburner]

Nice call, Bob Costas -- making fun of Vontae Davis.

Another Costas thread this week?

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

Manning didn't think the Mathis hit affected him. Said he throws a lot of wobbly passes.

 

[Jewell]

Vontae Davis just said the colts prepared for Tom Brady hahaha

I had to rewind to make sure I heard what I thought heard

Dumb as a box of rocks, main reason Miami traded him.

Vontae does sound dumb. Maybe he has brain trauma from his brother hitting him in the head with a hammer.http://deadspin.com/5909260/vernon-and-vontae-daviss-younger-brother-charged-with-murdering-a-man-with-a-claw-hammer

 

[Mile High]

Manning didn't think the Mathis hit affected him. Said he throws a lot of wobbly passes.

Probably nothing to it, but it's being brought up here on the after game radio shows.

 

[Sarnoff]

Amazing that Collinsworth and Michaels still don't understand how challenges work.

-QG

Exactly.

Few things are more annoying than announcers repeatedly harping on a single issue that they completely don't understand.

 

[MoveToSkypager]

I am really impressed with the Colts team. Andrew Luck certainly enjoys challenges.

 

[Ignoramus]

Just don't understand Hillman getting the ball inside the 2.

Neither did Tony Dungy after the game. Said it was the wrong call.

Yet if he had scored instead of fumbled it would have been a great call.

 

[VA703]

peyton sucks

 

[JMon348]

Sorry if this was discussed before.

Peyton Manning was not deducted points for the fumble/safety earlier in the game(at least on Yahoo). Should he lose points for a lost fumble? Or does the fact that it went out of bounds mean that its not a lost fumble?

 

[Jewell]

Sorry if this was discussed before.

Peyton Manning was not deducted points for the fumble/safety earlier in the game(at least on Yahoo). Should he lose points for a lost fumble? Or does the fact that it went out of bounds mean that its not a lost fumble?

The latter.

 

[JMon348]

Sorry if this was discussed before.

Peyton Manning was not deducted points for the fumble/safety earlier in the game(at least on Yahoo). Should he lose points for a lost fumble? Or does the fact that it went out of bounds mean that its not a lost fumble?

The latter.

Damn, that's a weird rule. Those negative 2 points would have helped.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Indy would have had to recover it for it to be a lost fumble/turnover. Since it went out of bounds before Indy could recover it (or the Indy player was partially out of bounds when he did recover it), it was only a safety.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

I'm sure most have already seen (and/or it's already been posted on previous page), but what a class act. Nice of Indy to recognize a great player and person.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/watch-peyton-manning-standing-ovation-return-indianapolis-video-020716968--nfl.html

 

[Sarnoff]

Sorry if this was discussed before.

Peyton Manning was not deducted points for the fumble/safety earlier in the game(at least on Yahoo). Should he lose points for a lost fumble? Or does the fact that it went out of bounds mean that its not a lost fumble?

It's kind of similar, in thinking, to a QB or kicker who strategically runs out the back of the end zone for a safety. A safety can also be accomplished by that player tossing the ball out of bounds on a "fumble". Sometimes safeties can be intentional (although, obviously, this one was not), so, unless Indy recovered there's no reason to deduct points for a play that, run similarly but under different game circumstances, may have been on purpose.

If, next week, in another game, a play comes up where it would benefit the offense to intentionally give up a safety, and the QB decides to do that by turning around and throwing the ball underhand out the back of the end zone like a "fumble", then, for fantasy purposes, both those plays have to be scored the same.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Just don't understand Hillman getting the ball inside the 2.

Fox being a genius in-game tactician

you guys know that peyton probably audibled into that play right?

 

[pizzatyme]

I'm sure most have already seen (and/or it's already been posted on previous page), but what a class act. Nice of Indy to recognize a great player and person.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/watch-peyton-manning-standing-ovation-return-indianapolis-video-020716968--nfl.html

As a giant Colts fan, that was tough to watch. So many great memories shared over the years. We were fortunate to have him as our QB. Thanks again #18!

 

[Sarnoff]

Just don't understand Hillman getting the ball inside the 2.

Fox being a genius in-game tactician

you guys know that peyton probably audibled into that play right?

How did Peyton audible Hillman onto the field instead of Moreno?

 

[need2know]

Its crazy to think that den still had a chance to win this game. They did very little for long stretches than just flipped the switch. Den def doesn't seem to make many big plays anymore. ..

 

[purestrength]

I realize nobody else cares, but Moreno not getting the late TD when Hillman fumbled cost me a FFPC Main Event victory. Considering it also may have cost the Broncos a victory in a huge game, I'm still trying to figure out how that happened.