Why not - who can they draft towards the bottom of the first that can fill an immediate big need for them?There is no way Denver will send a first to SD for their backup RB.That is a complete load of BS. If not then Shanny should be shot.
Denver would give Marshawn Lynch serious consideration if he dropped to 21, so why not Turner? Turner has at least proven himself somewhat at the NFL level, won't have Lynch's learning curve, and would make an immediate impact.Why not - who can they draft towards the bottom of the first that can fill an immediate big need for them?There is no way Denver will send a first to SD for their backup RB.That is a complete load of BS. If not then Shanny should be shot.
have we forgotten that Shanahan has never drafted a RB in the first? This could be the year, but I have my doubts - I think they will be looking at D-line before RB - that's a much more glaring need. Look for a RB in the 2nd or later.Moreto the point, it's not just burning a #1 on a rb, it's giving a tough divisional opponent another #1. You are making your biggest rival stronger. No way does this make sense.Denver would give Marshawn Lynch serious consideration if he dropped to 21, so why not Turner? Turner has at least proven himself somewhat at the NFL level, won't have Lynch's learning curve, and would make an immediate impact.Why not - who can they draft towards the bottom of the first that can fill an immediate big need for them?There is no way Denver will send a first to SD for their backup RB.That is a complete load of BS. If not then Shanny should be shot.
This part I agree with.moleculo said:Moreto the point, it's not just burning a #1 on a rb, it's giving a tough divisional opponent another #1. You are making your biggest rival stronger. No way does this make sense.
I doubt Warren will be cut if he doesn't restructure."(KFFL) Updating a previous report, Lee Rasizer, of the Rocky Mountain News, reports Denver Broncos DL Gerard Warren could refuse to re-structure his contract in the hopes the team will cut him. The free-agent market for defensive tackle is thin this year and Warren might be able to command a new contract with a sizable signing bonus should he be released. Negotiations are expected to continue until free agency begins Friday, March 2."
Courtney Brown cut.BTW...apparently courtney brown's knee is not healing on schedule...suprise suprise.
It's wild how different this group is from as recent as the 2005 season. And Rod may not even play that big a role in 2007 (though I hope that is not the case).QB Jay Cutler
RB Travis Henry
WR Javon Walker
WR Brandon Marshall/Rod Smith
TE Daniel Graham (blocker)
TE Tony Scheffler (pass-catcher)
Well so far so good, Defensive Coordinator fired, veteran DC brought in.....checkSpecial Teams coach replaced...................................checkNeeds in this order: DT, S, OL, WR3, CB2/3, RB depth, PunterWR3...................Stokley.......checkRB depth.............Henry.........checkCB2/3.................Bly.............checkFoster and Bell both traded..........................checkPunter........Sauerbraun offered contractOL depth.....Holland signed......lost one.......still a needDT/DL......................................................still a needS.............................................................still a needBONUS: Getting Bly, Graham and Henry, thought they were after role players and they got solid starters.I think with our 4 picks on the first day, it goes something along the lines of 2 DL's, 1 S, and one Shanahan special.......meaning a reach.Second day picks are limited but will be normal drafting of smaller, quick OL's.Here's my take:First thing they need to do is fire Larry Coyer and Ronnie Bradford, Special Teams Coach. Bring in a highly experienced Defensive coordinator that knows when to blitz. Not decide one year we are going to blitz all year, then next year we won't blitz at all because the previous year we used the blitz too much. Also a special teams coach that is a ST specialist. Too long Shanny has used this position as a feeding ground for future coaches. This year's ST on both sides was probably the worst I've seen in the last 20 years for the Broncos. Field position was brutal. The lone bright spot, Quincy Morgan. They have to bring him back. Especially now with the unfortunate death of Darrent Williams.Needs in this order: DT, S, OL, WR3, CB2/3, RB depth, PunterDefensive Tackle has to be addressed. Stopping the run was brutal in the 2nd half of the year, something that us Denver fans have been very proud of the past few years. They need a huge body to take up space which will allow Warren, Ekuban, Dumervil to reek some havoc inside. If Courtney Brown is back next year, he should provide a nice depth DE, pass rush specialist like Dumervil. This is where you have to go with the first rounder unless a major player drops to you.Safety is a must to be addressed. Darrent Williams, may he rest in peace, was thrown under the bus for getting burned by Wayne and company. What most people didn't see was that Lynch was supposed to be over the top on a couple of those plays and he was just too slow in getting over. Although he still has big hits, he just can't roam the field like he used too. Add to that Sam Brandon and Nick Ferguson are coming off major knee injuries and can't be counted on for speed. Normally, safety wouldn't be so high, but we are in need of safeties at both FS and SS. OL. Most Broncos fans know it was all downhill after Lepsis went out. His torn ACL was a tear in the line. It was nice to see Pears and Meadows step up, but they were hardly franchise LT's. Unfortunately, with the Lepsis injury we also have seen the last of George Foster, another Shanahan first round reach that became another Shanahan first round bust. I really hope Shanny just sticks to the gameplan now and drafts properly instead of reaching. He's done that to a certain degree in the past 2 years and those have been the best drafts for the Broncos in a long, long time. Lepsis will be back, but the reality is it's time to address is heir apparent. Groom that future LT. But a little more depth would help this position.WR3 as well. Kircus isn't putting fear into anybody. I believe Marshall will be a solid #2 next year. He wasn't consistent but 20 catches for 309 with a 15.5 average is very nice. That average is great for a WR2. Given the opportunity, you will see the consistency with him. I could see him finishing with 55-65 catches for 700-800 yards. His drops weren't glaring and he did sell out for anything thrown his way. I wish I could say Rod Smith for WR3 but traditionally that's a burner role, and Rod can't do that. CB 2/3. I think Foxworth can step up to a starter's role and Paymah looks like he's ready to make the leap as well to #3. It's unfortunate about Darrent, because I really thought as a player he would be coming into his own next year. Still would be nice to address this position with a first day pick.RB depth. I agree with giving Mike Bell the rock. He's shown he can handle a load. Even though he doesn't have a 2nd gear, he could work on his "gamespeed" and being quicker in the offseason. I don't think Shanny will give it to him though. I could see him signing Barlow once he's released in continuing the trend of taking other team's rejects. Also, could see them trying to sign Chris Brown to a 1 year deal. The market will be pretty dry for Brown considering he did nothing this year. Definitely need some depth here. I think Tatum is gone next season for a 2nd day pick.Lastly, get a punter. A real one. Oh my god, Ernster is just brutal. His punts were pretty bad, 3rd worst in the league and considering he was kicking in the thin air, that's brutal. His kickoffs weren't bad, they tailed off towards the end of the season but that's normal.
I was hopeful when he finished the season, but when he went down with that neck injury, I knew it spelled the end for Wilson. I'm going to miss him, and the biggest thing we'll lose is his leadership. I hope he retires, I'd hate to see him in another uniform.####.
So much for fixing the d-line in this draft, as this propels LB way up on the need list.
http://www.denverpost.com/ci_5660275
Al Wilson's Broncos career is over. The Broncos will release the former defensive captain today, according to a source close to the situation.
A news conference is scheduled at 2 p.m. to discuss Wilson's future at the Denver office of Wilson's agent, Peter Schaffer.
There is a strong chance Wilson, 29, may not play in 2007 and that he could decide to end his career.
The five-time Pro Bowl selection suffered a neck injury Dec. 3 against Seattle. He was taken off the field on a stretcher and spent a short time at a local hospital before being released. Wilson then came back to finish the season.
However, on March 23, he failed a physical with the New York Giants, who nixed a proposed trade from Denver. Wilson subsequently saw a specialist in Los Angeles who confirmed the injury.
Wilson was a first-round draft choice out of Tennessee in 1999. He quickly became a fierce vocal leader and a fan favorite. Wilson was voted a starter for the Pro Bowl this past season, but he didn't play because of he had postseason thumb surgery.
Staff Writer Bill Williamson
That's the early rumor but not sure currently. Either way DJ will have better stats next year as he will be in on nickel situations (last year it was Wilson and Gold).Magic Man said:Bump DJ Williams up? Will he be manning the middle now?
Yeah, thats what us homers always say, but I don't think anyone between Jacksonville and us was likely to draft a DE. I think he got spooked by Harrell going a bit earlier than expected to Green Bay.He must have known something or he wouldn't have traded up. I wish we could have gotten up to 10.
I agree, but in the same sense this is a playoff team that isn't going to be made or broke thru this year's draft.I mean everyone regards this class as a down year.If Denver ends the draft with:A) Pass Rusher (done)B) Safety (probably 2nd round)C) WR (this is a deeper position in this draft)D) Offensive line depth.This will be a good (notice I say not great) draft.Denver will obviously have to address the huge hole at LB thru some other off season veteran move because there were 1-2 draftees that could have filled that roll right away.Yeah, thats what us homers always say, but I don't think anyone between Jacksonville and us was likely to draft a DE. I think he got spooked by Harrell going a bit earlier than expected to Green Bay.He must have known something or he wouldn't have traded up. I wish we could have gotten up to 10.
I don't know, I think DJ Williams might fill in well at Wilson's spot.They did pick up Holdman (I think that is who it was). He should be a good 2 down LB.Denver will obviously have to address the huge hole at LB thru some other off season veteran move because there were 1-2 draftees that could have filled that roll right away.
I guess my overall point was this draft was sort of a non-factor outside of who we got outside of Round 1/2.Denver is primed for a good year. --3rd place schedule.--Great off-season pickups after a really bad emotional off-season.--Indy got their title and have been hit by free-agency departures.--SD got absolutely racked by getting their coaching staff raided. --It will all hang on Cutler's performance.I know I am waaaayyyy oversimplifying things, but....I don't know, I think DJ Williams might fill in well at Wilson's spot.They did pick up Holdman (I think that is who it was). He should be a good 2 down LB.Denver will obviously have to address the huge hole at LB thru some other off season veteran move because there were 1-2 draftees that could have filled that roll right away.
I agree with all your points.I have high hopes for Cutler.Adding the pass rusher will make a great difference.I look for Denver to take the division.DenverSDKCOakHope I am not dreaming here.I guess my overall point was this draft was sort of a non-factor outside of who we got outside of Round 1/2.Denver is primed for a good year. --3rd place schedule.--Great off-season pickups after a really bad emotional off-season.--Indy got their title and have been hit by free-agency departures.--SD got absolutely racked by getting their coaching staff raided. --It will all hang on Cutler's performance.I know I am waaaayyyy oversimplifying things, but....I don't know, I think DJ Williams might fill in well at Wilson's spot.They did pick up Holdman (I think that is who it was). He should be a good 2 down LB.Denver will obviously have to address the huge hole at LB thru some other off season veteran move because there were 1-2 draftees that could have filled that roll right away.
I was really envious of the Thomas pick. I really thought the Raiders would get him. Hearing him on Sirius radio a couple weeks ago made me a believer.As a whole, this draft might really improve the hole in your running game defense. Nice work once again by Ratface.Sounds like we're going to be rotating a lot of DL in and out next year. Hopefully Holdman can come in and hold his own. At least we have an experienced guy in Holdman that has proven he can play in the NFL.The first 3 guys we drafted seem to have tremendous upside potential and minimal risk. Thomas could be the best of all as long as he can stay away from the chronic.
UW safety Roderick Rogers, who wasn't drafted this weekend, signed with the Denver Broncos.Rogers said the Broncos will put him at safety, with the possibility later of moving to cornerback.-------Roderick Rogers, was one of the team's co-MVPs on a Wisconsin Badger team that lost just one game. Much of the Badgers success has to do with Rogers' job as the quarterback of the defense. He was a consensus all Big 10 second team. With 4.4 speed and being 6'1, Rogers is versatile enough to play both cornerback and safety. He also has the experience that scouts love, starting the last 25 games of his career.
Thanks for posting this. I'm glad to see the Broncos addressed most of what the consensus would agree were their needs: DL, OT, and S (although many would argue they needed some LB depth and/or another RB).They got depth and possible starters along the defensive line to improve their pass rush and hopefully strengthen their run defense. If Warren can increase his productivity with either of the other DTs (McKinley, Gordon, Burton, and now Thomas), DJ Williams should be able to fly all over the field making tackles. I really think we need more from Ian Gold this season, as we'll need more production from the Will to overcome any growing pains Williams' might have in the middle.Denver also picked up some depth/project at saftey/corner.
UW safety Roderick Rogers, who wasn't drafted this weekend, signed with the Denver Broncos.
Rogers said the Broncos will put him at safety, with the possibility later of moving to cornerback.
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Roderick Rogers, was one of the team's co-MVPs on a Wisconsin Badger team that lost just one game. Much of the Badgers success has to do with Rogers' job as the quarterback of the defense. He was a consensus all Big 10 second team. With 4.4 speed and being 6'1, Rogers is versatile enough to play both cornerback and safety. He also has the experience that scouts love, starting the last 25 games of his career.
IMO Holdman should fill in nicely at SLB, and he is only needed for non-nickel situations. Denver was disappointed with Wilson and Gold this past year, and the only reason why Wilson was released instead of Gold is because of his injury. They didn't feel they could withstand the hit financially to release both of them. If Gold does not play up to his contract expect him to get released next year.I expect Bates to fix the mistake that Coyer had and put Lynch back at SS and have him play in the box. With Bly and Champ forming the best CB duo in the league, they can afford to have Lynch play in the box. Look for Ferguson to battle Hazm (can't remember how to spell his name) and Cox for a starting position at FS this year.Thanks for posting this. I'm glad to see the Broncos addressed most of what the consensus would agree were their needs: DL, OT, and S (although many would argue they needed some LB depth and/or another RB).They got depth and possible starters along the defensive line to improve their pass rush and hopefully strengthen their run defense. If Warren can increase his productivity with either of the other DTs (McKinley, Gordon, Burton, and now Thomas), DJ Williams should be able to fly all over the field making tackles. I really think we need more from Ian Gold this season, as we'll need more production from the Will to overcome any growing pains Williams' might have in the middle.Denver also picked up some depth/project at saftey/corner.
UW safety Roderick Rogers, who wasn't drafted this weekend, signed with the Denver Broncos.
Rogers said the Broncos will put him at safety, with the possibility later of moving to cornerback.
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Roderick Rogers, was one of the team's co-MVPs on a Wisconsin Badger team that lost just one game. Much of the Badgers success has to do with Rogers' job as the quarterback of the defense. He was a consensus all Big 10 second team. With 4.4 speed and being 6'1, Rogers is versatile enough to play both cornerback and safety. He also has the experience that scouts love, starting the last 25 games of his career.
The real trick now is to figure out who will be playing SAM: I personally think it'll be a competition between Nate Webster (who filled in well when Wilson was out last year) and the recently signed Holdman. They'll be key, especially in pass coverage depending on whether our safetys heal up such that we can run the big nickel. If both Ferguson and Brandon come back 100%, we'll be good against the strong TEs in the AFC west. If not, we might be counting on unproven SAMs to do the job, or we might even see a little bit of Champ Bailey on Gates and/or Gonzalez (its happened in the past).
As for Harris, I look for him to follow in the long lines of Denver's developmental offensive lineman. Give him a year or two to learn the scheme and he'll be ready to go, either at the tackle or the guard (theres been some mention of possibly moving him inside). This fits what Denver did with other "projects" such as Hamilton, Carlisle, and are currently doing with Eslinger (Nalen's heir-apparent) and Kuper.
At first blush I was a bit peeved by Shanahan making costly moves up to get his guy. The more I think abou t it though, I'm glad that my team has the guts to pull the trigger for what they want, rather than sitting back and possibly (although admittedly not-likely) missing out on their targets. The Broncos are an aggressive team (note the FA acquisitions, trades, and draft movement), and I think thats the right approach to take. That being said, we're still not with the Colts and Patriots in the AFC, and we'll need all of our 2006 and 2007 picks to pan out to get up there.
Its gonna be a fun ride.
Check out Mile High Report for some good write-ups on the new members of the Broncos as well as the draft overall.
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SCOUTING REPORTThe good: Duckworth is a strong lineman with the size to hold his ground against big defensive tackles as a pass protector and get consistent movement as a drive blocker. He has a good work ethic and has been called an overachiever, yet he has definite skill set that the guard spot demands. He is a tough, aggressive player that is better as a run blocker than as a pass protector. He can trap and seal block very well. At the Senior Bowl, he showed the physical skills to handle power players and the quickness to match up within a short area.The bad: He struggles at times with speed rushers and would need to improve his quickness and footwork to handle the quick, smaller NFL defensive tackles. His ability to get out to the second level is only marginal with little speed and ability to adjust in space. He tends to leave his feet too much in the running game and gets overextended. He has limited range to be effective on the on the perimeter and needs to improve his footwork to get to most out of his athletic ability.Outlook: He is a raw technician with limited experience at the position and faces a tough learning curve but shows the intangibles to make that happen. Could fall late into the second day, but he would be a fine value at that point.
D-line close to getting big boost from Adams
One-year offer for huge tackle
By Bill Williamson
Denver Post Staff Writer
Article Last Updated: 06/04/2007 12:03:57 AM MDT
The busy franchise is on the verge of acquiring a player who would fill one of the few holes left unfilled during this kinetic offseason.
According to an NFL source close to the situation, the Broncos are expected to sign veteran defensive tackle Sam Adams to a one-year contract. The deal, barring an unexpected breakdown, could be announced as soon as today.
Adams is the biggest name remaining in a slim free-agent market.
The 6-foot-4, 340-pound Adams, who turns 34 on June 13, would give Denver a massive player in the middle of its defensive front. Adams would fit perfectly into Jim Bates' system. Bates, the Broncos' new assistant head coach in charge of defense, loves big defensive tackles. Denver tried to fill the need when trading for Miami's Dan Wilkinson (6-4, 353) on March 3. But the trade was voided March 31 because Wilkinson never reported to the Broncos.
Denver selected Florida defensive tackle Marcus Thomas in the fourth round of the April draft. Thomas (6-3, 296) is expected to get a chance to earn plenty of playing time as a rookie. The Broncos also have signed Alvin McKinley (6-3, 294) of Cleveland. Adams likely would play in a rotation and could start alongside veteran Gerard Warren (6-4, 325).
The Broncos would be Adams' sixth NFL team. Adams began his career with Seattle, which selected the Texas A&M product eighth overall in the 1994 draft. Adams has made three Pro Bowl teams, the last in 2004 while with Buffalo.
The Broncos began looking into signing Adams the day after he was cut by Cincinnati last month. Broncos defensive line coach Bill Johnson coached Adams at Texas A&M.
Adams, who has 44 sacks in 13 seasons, would be the 13th veteran the Broncos have added this offseason. During the recent draft, coach Mike Shanahan said he thought the Broncos were done adding veteran players. But he added that if a quality veteran were to hit the open market and he fit the Broncos' needs, they would consider signing him.
it may be Eddie Moore filling in at SAM:linkIMO Holdman should fill in nicely at SLB, and he is only needed for non-nickel situations. Denver was disappointed with Wilson and Gold this past year, and the only reason why Wilson was released instead of Gold is because of his injury. They didn't feel they could withstand the hit financially to release both of them. If Gold does not play up to his contract expect him to get released next year.I expect Bates to fix the mistake that Coyer had and put Lynch back at SS and have him play in the box. With Bly and Champ forming the best CB duo in the league, they can afford to have Lynch play in the box. Look for Ferguson to battle Hazm (can't remember how to spell his name) and Cox for a starting position at FS this year.Thanks for posting this. I'm glad to see the Broncos addressed most of what the consensus would agree were their needs: DL, OT, and S (although many would argue they needed some LB depth and/or another RB).They got depth and possible starters along the defensive line to improve their pass rush and hopefully strengthen their run defense. If Warren can increase his productivity with either of the other DTs (McKinley, Gordon, Burton, and now Thomas), DJ Williams should be able to fly all over the field making tackles. I really think we need more from Ian Gold this season, as we'll need more production from the Will to overcome any growing pains Williams' might have in the middle.Denver also picked up some depth/project at saftey/corner.
UW safety Roderick Rogers, who wasn't drafted this weekend, signed with the Denver Broncos.
Rogers said the Broncos will put him at safety, with the possibility later of moving to cornerback.
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Roderick Rogers, was one of the team's co-MVPs on a Wisconsin Badger team that lost just one game. Much of the Badgers success has to do with Rogers' job as the quarterback of the defense. He was a consensus all Big 10 second team. With 4.4 speed and being 6'1, Rogers is versatile enough to play both cornerback and safety. He also has the experience that scouts love, starting the last 25 games of his career.
The real trick now is to figure out who will be playing SAM: I personally think it'll be a competition between Nate Webster (who filled in well when Wilson was out last year) and the recently signed Holdman. They'll be key, especially in pass coverage depending on whether our safetys heal up such that we can run the big nickel. If both Ferguson and Brandon come back 100%, we'll be good against the strong TEs in the AFC west. If not, we might be counting on unproven SAMs to do the job, or we might even see a little bit of Champ Bailey on Gates and/or Gonzalez (its happened in the past).
As for Harris, I look for him to follow in the long lines of Denver's developmental offensive lineman. Give him a year or two to learn the scheme and he'll be ready to go, either at the tackle or the guard (theres been some mention of possibly moving him inside). This fits what Denver did with other "projects" such as Hamilton, Carlisle, and are currently doing with Eslinger (Nalen's heir-apparent) and Kuper.
At first blush I was a bit peeved by Shanahan making costly moves up to get his guy. The more I think abou t it though, I'm glad that my team has the guts to pull the trigger for what they want, rather than sitting back and possibly (although admittedly not-likely) missing out on their targets. The Broncos are an aggressive team (note the FA acquisitions, trades, and draft movement), and I think thats the right approach to take. That being said, we're still not with the Colts and Patriots in the AFC, and we'll need all of our 2006 and 2007 picks to pan out to get up there.
Its gonna be a fun ride.
Check out Mile High Report for some good write-ups on the new members of the Broncos as well as the draft overall.
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Denver still has a couple of question marks, but they should compete this year with a better offense and better defensive coaching. The season will ride on the success of Cutler, and while I expect him to improve I think he will still struggle at times. I think at least one of the rookie D-lineman will start (probably Thomas) and possibly two (Crowder or Moss if he bulks up in time). Next year they will probably lose Ekuban to FA, so look for Crowder to be his replacement. Gold will probably also be gone and they will have to find a replacement for Lynch. So expect them to focus on LB and S next offseason.
I completely missed this signing.The new Al Wilson at middle linebacker is D.J. Williams. The new D.J. Williams at outside linebacker may be Eddie Moore.
A second-round draft pick of the Miami Dolphins in 2003, where Jim Bates was defensive coordinator at the time, Moore has been plagued by injuries ever since. Moore didn't play a down last season as he struggled to overcome a defect in his right knee, but he played with the Broncos' first-team defense at minicamp Tuesday.
"He's worked through those injuries and he's had a good off- season program and he's been very impressive in this camp," Shanahan said.