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Denver trading up to draft Vince Young! (1 Viewer)

I know Shanahan was joking, but as a VY fan, I would love for him to go to Denver. Shanahan would take Vince if things fall right, I have no doubts about that.

There is also a connection there with Texas' OC Greg Davis going to Denver several times to learn from their coaches in the off-season, and with Shanahan's son having played WR at Texas including at least one year when Vince was there (maybe more, I can't remember).

 
I know Shanahan was joking, but as a VY fan, I would love for him to go to Denver. Shanahan would take Vince if things fall right, I have no doubts about that.

There is also a connection there with Texas' OC Greg Davis going to Denver several times to learn from their coaches in the off-season, and with Shanahan's son having played WR at Texas including at least one year when Vince was there (maybe more, I can't remember).
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure if he falls to #15, Shanny would have to.I'm thinking Peterson would find a way to trade up with Philly if Baltimore passes on him.

In other news, the devil bought iceskates

 
I know Shanahan was joking, but as a VY fan, I would love for him to go to Denver.  Shanahan would take Vince if things fall right, I have no doubts about that.

There is also a connection there with Texas' OC Greg Davis going to Denver several times to learn from their coaches in the off-season, and with Shanahan's son having played WR at Texas including at least one year when Vince was there (maybe more, I can't remember).
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure if he falls to #15, Shanny would have to.I'm thinking Peterson would find a way to trade up with Philly if Baltimore passes on him.

In other news, the devil bought iceskates
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Remember that at this point last year, nobody was sure whether Aaron Rodgers would be the #1 overall pick. Weird stuff happens.
 
Best line I've heard on VY was from Brian Billick.

With Young, you knew we were going to beat him up (in evaluations). He was just too good to be true. The problem that I see personally is I don't know who you compare him to. I think that makes people uncomfortable. Leinart looks like a lot of good pocket quarterbacks. … Young is a different breed. He really doesn't fit into that (Michael) Vick category. He has the size, the accuracy and the throwing action. He's a spectacular talent but he doesn't look like anybody. So that tends to make us all nervous.
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Best line I've heard on VY was from Brian Billick.

With Young, you knew we were going to beat him up (in evaluations). He was just too good to be true. The problem that I see personally is I don't know who you compare him to. I think that makes people uncomfortable. Leinart looks like a lot of good pocket quarterbacks. … Young is a different breed. He really doesn't fit into that (Michael) Vick category. He has the size, the accuracy and the throwing action. He's a spectacular talent but he doesn't look like anybody. So that tends to make us all nervous.
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From what I've read, Billick really likes what Young brings to the table. It seems what he's saying there was kind of an indictment of the process and player evaluators, himself included, and their inability to deal with someone who doesn't fit the classic "mold" of what they've always seen or expect at a particular position.

He's also said this...

"What he was able to do last year by way of substantially upgrading his quarterbacking skills, just the numbers, not only the improvement he's made, it shows the upside that's there. That upside is what you want."
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and this...
"What Leinart and Young have experienced (in college) is totally different than Cutler. That's why I would be concerned with Cutler. He's a good, young man who is intelligent, but he's not really been under the spotlight on a consistent basis. He might not know how this all works."
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He also said this in an excerpt from a Dallas Morning News/Rick Gosselin article:
"I have a sense that what this league does to a guy who plays that brilliantly is beat up on him pretty good," said Baltimore Ravens coach Brian Billick during a break at the NFL spring meetings. "A guy who's going to go as high [in the draft] as Vince Young will be critiqued and over-critiqued."

Why? Because the NFL doesn't quite know what to make of Young.

"Unique is a word you don't want to throw out there too often," Billick said. "But this guy is truly unique – and that uniqueness is what has most people apprehensive.

"We all want to make comparisons to give ourselves a comfort zone, like the Jake Plummer-Joe Montana analogy. A Matt Leinart is very direct. We've seen him before in this league. He translates very easily, so you have a much stronger conviction about how he'll do.

"But there's trepidation with a guy as unique as Young. It's a little frightening."

Billick is an expert on quarterbacks and what it takes to play the position in the NFL. He called the plays as the offensive coordinator at Minnesota in 1998 when the Vikings set an NFL scoring record and quarterback Randall Cunningham went to the Pro Bowl.

Billick was the head coach of the Ravens in 2000 when Trent Dilfer won a Super Bowl as a caretaker quarterback. Billick also has coached Brad Johnson, Elvis Grbac and Kyle Boller. He's coached mobile quarterbacks and pocket passers, big arms and the average arms.

In short, Billick has coached all types of quarterbacks – but he's never seen one quite like Young.

"If you try to pigeon hole him as a Randall Cunningham or a Michael Vick – I don't know if you're going to be able to connect the dots in a way you'd like," Billick said. "As Vick has done, Young could create his own category because of the size, the speed and the athleticism."
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Also in that article, Dennis Green adds...
Dennis Green was the head coach of that Minnesota team that (with Randall Cunningham at QB) set the NFL scoring record. He also coached Daunte Culpepper at Minnesota, and now coaches Kurt Warner at Arizona.

So Green also knows a little something about quarterbacks – and he knows there's more to the position than just taking the center snaps.

"The game is about a guy's talent and intangibles," Green said. "I'd say Vince Young probably has the most intangibles we've seen in a long, long time. You're talking about a guy who's changed the game. He played against USC and made them look like they had average athletes on the field. It's because he was such a superior athlete.

"We try to make this game more complicated than it is. Does he throw completions? Can he lead his team? Does he have the instincts for the position? I think he'll be a hell of a pro."

Young passed for 267 yards and rushed for 200 yards and three touchdowns in a 41-38 victory over Southern Cal in the national title game. For the season, Young completed 65.2 percent of his passes for 3,036 yards and 26 touchdowns and rushed for 1,050 yards and 12 more scores, finishing as the Heisman Trophy runner-up.
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And wrapping up the article...
Jacksonville Jaguars general manager James Harris says forget questions about Young's intelligence, delivery and ability to function in a conventional offense.

"The only question you have to ask is do you want to play against him?" Harris said.
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Nice quotes, Hairy. This is the best one though:

"The only question you have to ask is do you want to play against him?" Harris said.

 
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