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DEZ BRYANT - agrees to terms with Cowboys (1 Viewer)
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Tyrion
Footballguy
Nice.
Thanks for the post.
So much for the "Crabtree's agent means holdout" BS.
Knowing my boy Jerry like I do, they probably did a deal that will screw with the other picks right before and after them.
Donsmith753
Footballguy
As a Dez owner this is excellent news before camp.
Cecil Lammey
Footballguy
Numbers are in, according to Schefter:
Dez Bryant's deal with Cowboys is a five-year, $11.8 million deal that includes $8.5 million guaranteed.
http://twitter.com/Adam_Schefter/statuses/19291029648
Dez Bryant's deal with Cowboys is a five-year, $11.8 million deal that includes $8.5 million guaranteed.
http://twitter.com/Adam_Schefter/statuses/19291029648
Cecil Lammey
Footballguy
Andy Herron
Footballguy
I couldn't agree more.
redBourne
Footballguy
I really like the fact that Dez signed before training camp and before anyone else in the 1st. Not sure why, but it sticks out to me as someone that is eager to get to camp and work his ### off. Not as worried about getting ripped off in comparison to other rookie contracts.
Unfortunately, this RARELY matters to rookie wr's. I did some digging for the past few years, and it seems like 50% of the time there is 1 WR that produces some very good numbers for a rookie and a serious starter on your fantasy team. So the chances of choosing the right one are slim. However, If I had to bet, I would say it is Dez's year. He's coming into a prolific passing attack with a good QB and a solid team around him already. His FBG ADP is around the end of the 8th is it not? in the middle of guys like Antonio, Braylon, and Royal. Ha, sign me up.
2001 and 2000 both saw rookie WR's only get about 50 catches.
Unfortunately, this RARELY matters to rookie wr's. I did some digging for the past few years, and it seems like 50% of the time there is 1 WR that produces some very good numbers for a rookie and a serious starter on your fantasy team. So the chances of choosing the right one are slim. However, If I had to bet, I would say it is Dez's year. He's coming into a prolific passing attack with a good QB and a solid team around him already. His FBG ADP is around the end of the 8th is it not? in the middle of guys like Antonio, Braylon, and Royal. Ha, sign me up.
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Rk Player Rec Yds Avg TD 20091 Austin Collie 60 676 11.3 7 2 Percy Harvin 60 790 13.2 620081 Eddie Royal 91 980 10.8 5 3 DeSeanJackson 62 912 14.7 2*Forte was #32007 1 Dwane Bowe 70 995 14.2 5 2 Calvin Johnson 48 756 15.8 4 20062 Marques Colston 70 1,038 14.8 83 Santonio Holmes 49 824 16.8 2 *Reggie was #120051 Mark Clayton 44 471 10.7 2 2 Reggie Brown 43 571 13.3 4 20041 Michael Clayton 80 1,193 14.9 72 Larry Fitz 58 780 13.4 820031 Anquan Boldin 101 1,377 13.6 8 2 Andre Johnson 66 976 14.8 4 20022 Antwaan Randle E 47 489 10.4 2 3 Antonio Bryant 44 733 16.7 6 *Shockey #1Tyrion
Footballguy
Wow. According to these numbers he signed for less money than the the players from last year.
Peria Jerry at No. 24, five-year, $13.25 million deal with $7.55 million guaranteed.
Receiver Percy Harvin went two picks earlier to Minnesota last season. He signed a five-year, $14.25 million deal with $8.4 million guaranteed.
gianmarco
Footballguy
Good move on his part, IMO. If he's the goods, he'll get his payday soon enough.
FUBAR
Footballguy
Interesting that he seems to have gone more for guaranteed money than total. Probably doesn't mean anything, just surprises me.
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
It all depends on the offensive line. The Cowboys have a pretty solid starting unit but don't have a lot of depth. Last year, Dallas was one of the least injured teams in the NFL. I certainly hope that trend continues into this year but you just never know.Dallas does have a lot of skill on offense, there's no denying it. However, their achilles heal is the lack of depth at the offensive line position and things can go wrong very quickly if a 2 or 3 guys get hurt up front. Even as good as Dallas looks on paper, they're just like any other team. It starts up front with run blocking and pass blocking. If they can run the ball and pass block for Romo, he'll have monster games, there's no question. When I think back to games against Green Bay and Minnesota from last season, the reason they lost those games is because their offensive line was outplayed by the defensive lines/schemes of those defenses. It wasn't because Tony Romo played like crap that day, they couldn't run the ball because there were no holes to run through and once those teams gained a lead, they just pinned their ears back and went after the QB making it extremely difficult to make plays against.MAC_32 said:
FUBAR
Footballguy
assuming he does as well as we think he will, sure. But he'd be doing that if it weren't guaranteed.
Tyrion
Footballguy
That's a really good thing in my opinion. Signing for less total than the pick last year (does that ever happen without involving a QB?) shows me that he at least believes enough in his own ability that he won't have to finish that 5 year deal.
jacobo_moses
Footballguy
I just drafted Dez Bryant as my 3rd WR in a 10 team PPR redraft league. I hope he doesn't fail me. I'm going to use him to cover Brandon Marshalls and Roddy White's bye weeks. Those weeks Dallas plays Jacksonville and the TItans. He should have solid games those weeks I hope.
Multiple Scores
Footballguy
I wouldn't want any rookie covering bye weeks for those proven WRs you have, I would feel better with a Cotchery/Mason type unless the ADPs are way off. Dez would be a guy i'd like as a luxury pick and not a guy I was depending on to cover byes.
Tyrion
Footballguy
By the time those bye weeks get here he will have a good idea on what Dez is bringing to the table and worse case scenario he can pick somebody up off of waivers that can perform as well as the two guys you just mentioned. There are always guys who fall through the cracks at the WR position and in a 10 team only start 2 WR league their should be a few. At least with Dez he has some upside.
Multiple Scores
Footballguy
You are correct. I am only in 1 league at the moment, a 50+ roster dynasty so my head is sort of stuck in that, in a 10 team redraft there are guys you can pickup off the wire, in the league I am in there are around 150 WRs on rosters and usually zero descent WR pickups during the season, I managed to pick up Brandon Gibson on waivers last season and that was by far the best WR pickup all year by any team.
jacobo_moses
Footballguy
But look at what Maclin did against below average defenses as the no 2 in Philly. Don't you think Dez is as talented as Maclin at least? I think Romo is a little better then McNabb at least. So that is how I was looking at it. He has a top 5 qb by week 5 and week 8 he should be the no 2 and against below average defenses put up at least 4 rec 70 yds and maybe a td in one of those weeks. That is all I need from him.
redBourne
Footballguy
Agreed. The sting I get after I draft him will be watching him burning the Eagle safeties.
cobalt_27
Footballguy
Apples and oranges. Dez, by almost all accounts, has a huge ceiling and more raw ability than Maclin. But, he is not in a situation (yet) that is comparable to Maclin, given that he was the #2 or #3 target for McNabb, whereas Dez starts out the year as the #3 or #4. Situation counts for as much, if not more, than ability in the NFL when you're talking about productivity. So, while I am very high on Dez and hope he is able to make an immediate impact (and make Roy a ridiculous #3 option), too much remains to be seen at this point to make any solid predictions.Maclin, on the other hand, already is entrenched as the 2nd wideout.
Kleck
Footballguy
Dez has got a lot of hype to come in and produce fantasy worthy numbers right away, and he'll be most people's choice to lead all rookie WRs in fantasy points. That is an interesting list though, and many who finished #1 were not the WRs people expected that year. I wouldn't let it change my dynasty outlook on Dez if he doesn't finish at the top though. See Chase Stuart's Player Points - Percy Harvin. Good read for those who haven't read it yet.
Faust
MVP
Off to a good start - first on the field and one of the last off the field:
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/38395516/ns/sports/
Dez Bryant 1st player on field for Cowboys camp
By STEPHEN HAWKINS
SAN ANTONIO - Dez Bryant was more than on time for the start of the Dallas Cowboys training camp. The first-round pick was the first player on the field Saturday.
"I'm just ready to play, that's the message," Bryant said. "I'm ready to do whatever they ask me to do. I'm here to work hard, I'm here to give 100 percent, just bring my A-game."
Wearing the No. 88 jersey assigned to him right after being drafted, Bryant emerged from the Alamodome tunnel about 45 minutes before the Cowboys' first workout. The receiver from Oklahoma State then caught passes from an undrafted rookie quarterback.
Bryant had alleviated any concern about him missing any workouts when he agreed to terms of a five-year contract even before getting to San Antonio. He signed it after he arrived for the NFL's longest full-squad camp this year.
"I'm going to use the phrase, not on time, before time," Cowboys owner Jerry Jones said Friday while commending Bryant and his agent, Eugene Parker, for getting the deal done. "They both knew that this thing was important to set a tone, set an impression. ... Boy, that's a good sign."
Another impressive cue came Saturday.
Bryant arrived at the Alamodome more than two hours before practice. Once on the field, he acknowledged the growing crowd with a wave and then ran a variety of routes long before Tony Romo and the rest of the team even came out of the locker room.
"I did do it on purpose, to show the fans I'm ready to play," Bryant said.
He was also one of the last players to leave after the two-hour practice. He talked to several waves of reporters and signed autographs, even obliging one man's request to sign the back of an outfit being worn by a 9-month-old boy before posing for a picture holding the baby.
Dallas is the first team to have its full squad on the field, and no other teams are scheduled to have that until Wednesday. The Cowboys play their preseason opener in two weeks as part of the Pro Football Hall of Fame weekend that will include NFL career rushing leader and three-time Super Bowl champion Emmitt Smith's induction.
Once the opening workout without pads started, Bryant made several acrobatic and one-handed catches in drills without defenders. On one sideline route, he reached back with his left hand to make the grab, then managed to stay inbounds.
"Dez is a good football player and I think he's showing people that," Romo said.
The Cowboys traded up three spots in April to get Bryant 24th overall after the talented receiver slipped in the draft amid questions about his character. But Dallas did its homework after he was limited to only three games last season because of his NCAA suspension for lying to investigators about a meeting with former Cowboys star Deion Sanders.
"We felt very comfortable with Dez as a person, we obviously loved him as a player," offensive coordinator Jason Garrett said. "He's a good young man, he goes about it the right way. Watch him practice. He's 100 mph every minute of every day. He's learning, he's trying to understand what we're asking him to do and he gets better and better."
There were some concerns when Bryant picked the same agent as his buddy and fellow receiver Michael Crabtree, a first-rounder whose holdout last season lasted into late October. The signing of draft picks was also complicated by NFL labor uncertainty.
But Bryant agreed Thursday to the deal that guarantees him at least $8.3 million. His base salary this season is $320,000, but he got a $1.95 million signing bonus and gets another $570,000 roster bonus during camp.
"Me and my agent and Mr. Jones just wanted to get that contract out of the way so I can get on the field," Bryant said. "Now all I have to do is get ready for the season."
All six of the Cowboys draft picks were signed before camp. The only one not practicing is safety Akwasi Owusu-Ansah, the fourth-round pick still recovering from left shoulder surgery in March.
Owusu-Ansah and Stephen Hodge, a 2009 draft pick recovering from microfracture surgery, are both on the physically unable to perform list.
Third-year tight end Martellus Bennett missed the opening workout because of a non-football ankle injury. Coach Wade Phillips expects him to be out only a couple of days.
Bryant, with that cherished No. 88 jersey previously worn by Hall of Fame receiver Michael Irvin and Drew Pearson, ran plays primarily with the second-team offense Saturday. The Cowboys also plan for him to return kicks.
There are some who even think that by the end of training camp Bryant could be pushing underachieving Roy Williams for the starting job opposite Pro Bowl receiver Miles Austin.
"That bridge was crossed when we drafted Dez, and will be crossed as this season unfolds," said Jones, who believes there will be a role and plenty of balls for all of the receivers.
"Controversy is what everybody loves, try to pin him against me, me against him, and it's not going to work," said Williams, who compared to the situation to the 2011 truck he just bought and the 2004 he also still has. "Everybody loves a new car. ... That 2004 still runs good."
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/38395516/ns/sports/
Dez Bryant 1st player on field for Cowboys camp
By STEPHEN HAWKINS
SAN ANTONIO - Dez Bryant was more than on time for the start of the Dallas Cowboys training camp. The first-round pick was the first player on the field Saturday.
"I'm just ready to play, that's the message," Bryant said. "I'm ready to do whatever they ask me to do. I'm here to work hard, I'm here to give 100 percent, just bring my A-game."
Wearing the No. 88 jersey assigned to him right after being drafted, Bryant emerged from the Alamodome tunnel about 45 minutes before the Cowboys' first workout. The receiver from Oklahoma State then caught passes from an undrafted rookie quarterback.
Bryant had alleviated any concern about him missing any workouts when he agreed to terms of a five-year contract even before getting to San Antonio. He signed it after he arrived for the NFL's longest full-squad camp this year.
"I'm going to use the phrase, not on time, before time," Cowboys owner Jerry Jones said Friday while commending Bryant and his agent, Eugene Parker, for getting the deal done. "They both knew that this thing was important to set a tone, set an impression. ... Boy, that's a good sign."
Another impressive cue came Saturday.
Bryant arrived at the Alamodome more than two hours before practice. Once on the field, he acknowledged the growing crowd with a wave and then ran a variety of routes long before Tony Romo and the rest of the team even came out of the locker room.
"I did do it on purpose, to show the fans I'm ready to play," Bryant said.
He was also one of the last players to leave after the two-hour practice. He talked to several waves of reporters and signed autographs, even obliging one man's request to sign the back of an outfit being worn by a 9-month-old boy before posing for a picture holding the baby.
Dallas is the first team to have its full squad on the field, and no other teams are scheduled to have that until Wednesday. The Cowboys play their preseason opener in two weeks as part of the Pro Football Hall of Fame weekend that will include NFL career rushing leader and three-time Super Bowl champion Emmitt Smith's induction.
Once the opening workout without pads started, Bryant made several acrobatic and one-handed catches in drills without defenders. On one sideline route, he reached back with his left hand to make the grab, then managed to stay inbounds.
"Dez is a good football player and I think he's showing people that," Romo said.
The Cowboys traded up three spots in April to get Bryant 24th overall after the talented receiver slipped in the draft amid questions about his character. But Dallas did its homework after he was limited to only three games last season because of his NCAA suspension for lying to investigators about a meeting with former Cowboys star Deion Sanders.
"We felt very comfortable with Dez as a person, we obviously loved him as a player," offensive coordinator Jason Garrett said. "He's a good young man, he goes about it the right way. Watch him practice. He's 100 mph every minute of every day. He's learning, he's trying to understand what we're asking him to do and he gets better and better."
There were some concerns when Bryant picked the same agent as his buddy and fellow receiver Michael Crabtree, a first-rounder whose holdout last season lasted into late October. The signing of draft picks was also complicated by NFL labor uncertainty.
But Bryant agreed Thursday to the deal that guarantees him at least $8.3 million. His base salary this season is $320,000, but he got a $1.95 million signing bonus and gets another $570,000 roster bonus during camp.
"Me and my agent and Mr. Jones just wanted to get that contract out of the way so I can get on the field," Bryant said. "Now all I have to do is get ready for the season."
All six of the Cowboys draft picks were signed before camp. The only one not practicing is safety Akwasi Owusu-Ansah, the fourth-round pick still recovering from left shoulder surgery in March.
Owusu-Ansah and Stephen Hodge, a 2009 draft pick recovering from microfracture surgery, are both on the physically unable to perform list.
Third-year tight end Martellus Bennett missed the opening workout because of a non-football ankle injury. Coach Wade Phillips expects him to be out only a couple of days.
Bryant, with that cherished No. 88 jersey previously worn by Hall of Fame receiver Michael Irvin and Drew Pearson, ran plays primarily with the second-team offense Saturday. The Cowboys also plan for him to return kicks.
There are some who even think that by the end of training camp Bryant could be pushing underachieving Roy Williams for the starting job opposite Pro Bowl receiver Miles Austin.
"That bridge was crossed when we drafted Dez, and will be crossed as this season unfolds," said Jones, who believes there will be a role and plenty of balls for all of the receivers.
"Controversy is what everybody loves, try to pin him against me, me against him, and it's not going to work," said Williams, who compared to the situation to the 2011 truck he just bought and the 2004 he also still has. "Everybody loves a new car. ... That 2004 still runs good."
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Faust
MVP
http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/...igned?eref=sihp
Truth & Rumors > NFL
Will Cowboys cut Williams now that Bryant's signed?
09:15 AM ET 07.24 | If the Cowboys were considering cutting Roy Williams, it would come after rookie first-rounder Dez Bryant agreed to terms. Cutting Williams before signing Bryant would have given Bryant more leverage. So with the Cowboys now intent on getting receiver Miles Austin paid, the time could be coming to move on from Williams.
The hype for Bryant will be through the roof if Williams is released....good luck getting him for reasonable value!
Truth & Rumors > NFL
Will Cowboys cut Williams now that Bryant's signed?
09:15 AM ET 07.24 | If the Cowboys were considering cutting Roy Williams, it would come after rookie first-rounder Dez Bryant agreed to terms. Cutting Williams before signing Bryant would have given Bryant more leverage. So with the Cowboys now intent on getting receiver Miles Austin paid, the time could be coming to move on from Williams.
The hype for Bryant will be through the roof if Williams is released....good luck getting him for reasonable value!
VaTerp
Footballguy
Yeah, if the opportunity presents itself I would love to have Bryant on at least 1 of my teams this year. I can only imagine what he will do the Redskins secondary as they will bite on any double move.It pains me to say this b/c I hate few things in life more than the Dallas Cowboys and Duke Basketball but I LOVE the Cowgirls from a FF perspective this year. I have Romo in the top tier of elite QBs and would not be surprised if he finishes #1. I like Austin as much as any WR not named Andre Johnson. And I like both Felix and MBIII, especially where the latter is being drafted right now.Hell, I even think I may use the Cowboys in Madden this year if my guy I usually play against continues to use the Vikings. It will feel dirty but winning will more than make up for it.
FUBAR
Footballguy
Maclin didn't even play week 1; had the 7th most receptions on his team in week 2, 3rd most week 3 because Westbrook was out, busted out in week 5 (bye week 4), 5th in week 6. From week 7 on he was a key part of the offense. Don't forget he had DJax who is at least on par with Austin, Celek who is a target, but also Westbrook. He did not begin the season as the #2 or #3 but he earned it. As will Dez.
FUBAR
Footballguy
Fair enough, it just always surprises me when the guaranteed portion is that much of the total. I think I'd take less guaranteed money and more total if I believed in myself. I'm probably just looking for a reason (grasping at straws) to be concerned though.
massraider
Footballguy
I wonder if it didn't have something to do with the uncertain CBA deal. I also wonder if it was a trade-off the two sides made. I don't know enough about the contract stuff to reasonably speculate.
Faust
MVP
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/th...training-camp/1
Rookie WR Dez Bryant draws rave reviews as Dallas Cowboys open training camp
SAN ANTONIO -- Dallas Cowboys rookie wide receiver Dez Bryant was anxious to prove his worth one day after signing a five-year, $11.8-million deal as the 24th overall pick of the April draft.
So pumped, in fact, was Bryant that he hit the Alamodome Field before any of his new teammates. Once he did, the talented receiver left quite the impression with his hard-charging route-running and sticky hands.
Through the two-hour session was in helmets and shorts minus pads, Bryant flashed the "Wow'' factor that convinced the Cowboys to select the Oklahoma State product despite character questions. Bryant, who had 87 catches for 1,480 yards and 19 touchdowns in 2008, played just three games last season before he was suspended for lying to NCAA investigators about the purpose of a meeting with former NFL standout Deion Sanders. Bryant was considered by many analysts as the best receiver in the college game before the suspension and he admitted at the NFL scouting combine that he got nervous when called on the carpet by the NCAA.
Mid-way through the Cowboys' opening training-camp practice, Bryant showed a glimpse of what might be in store this season with his smooth, effortless speed on a deep, 25-yard out route. Quarterback Tony Romo saw Bryant gain easy separation against over-matched cornerback Jamar Wall and gunned a perfect strike down the right sideline for the 6-2, 217 rookie.
Bryant left his feet and laid out for the pass, securing the ball and tapping both feet in bounds for an eye-popping play that was the easy highlight of the first day.
"He's been making plays like that during minicamp and quarterback school,'' Cowboys executive vice president Stephen Jones said. "It doesn't come as a surprise. I give him and his agent a lot of credit for signing early.
"It was important for him to get out here early and we're already seeing how well it's paid off. Obviously, he's here making some statements early.
"It's very important for him to get his timing down with Tony and get his confidence early.''
Bryant could be the playmaker primed to give Romo the deepest stable of playmakers he's had since supplanting Drew Bledsoe as starter mid-way through the 2006 season.
-- Jim Corbett
Rookie WR Dez Bryant draws rave reviews as Dallas Cowboys open training camp
SAN ANTONIO -- Dallas Cowboys rookie wide receiver Dez Bryant was anxious to prove his worth one day after signing a five-year, $11.8-million deal as the 24th overall pick of the April draft.
So pumped, in fact, was Bryant that he hit the Alamodome Field before any of his new teammates. Once he did, the talented receiver left quite the impression with his hard-charging route-running and sticky hands.
Through the two-hour session was in helmets and shorts minus pads, Bryant flashed the "Wow'' factor that convinced the Cowboys to select the Oklahoma State product despite character questions. Bryant, who had 87 catches for 1,480 yards and 19 touchdowns in 2008, played just three games last season before he was suspended for lying to NCAA investigators about the purpose of a meeting with former NFL standout Deion Sanders. Bryant was considered by many analysts as the best receiver in the college game before the suspension and he admitted at the NFL scouting combine that he got nervous when called on the carpet by the NCAA.
Mid-way through the Cowboys' opening training-camp practice, Bryant showed a glimpse of what might be in store this season with his smooth, effortless speed on a deep, 25-yard out route. Quarterback Tony Romo saw Bryant gain easy separation against over-matched cornerback Jamar Wall and gunned a perfect strike down the right sideline for the 6-2, 217 rookie.
Bryant left his feet and laid out for the pass, securing the ball and tapping both feet in bounds for an eye-popping play that was the easy highlight of the first day.
"He's been making plays like that during minicamp and quarterback school,'' Cowboys executive vice president Stephen Jones said. "It doesn't come as a surprise. I give him and his agent a lot of credit for signing early.
"It was important for him to get out here early and we're already seeing how well it's paid off. Obviously, he's here making some statements early.
"It's very important for him to get his timing down with Tony and get his confidence early.''
Bryant could be the playmaker primed to give Romo the deepest stable of playmakers he's had since supplanting Drew Bledsoe as starter mid-way through the 2006 season.
-- Jim Corbett
VaTerp
Footballguy
Bryant and Cowboys already on the verge of imploding. Never should have drafted this guy.
http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/news/...tion?id=5409306
http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/news/...tion?id=5409306
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
That's awesome, I wouldn't carry Williams' pads either.
FUBAR
Footballguy
Play nice Roy, or you might just two-step your way out of town.
n20
Footballguy
Funny, because Williams couldn't carry Bryant's jock.
VaTerp
Footballguy
It would be HILARIOUS if Roy pulled something as "step two" then got the axe. Too funny
Invictus~Bronte
Footballguy
I like Dez more every day
Jeremy
Footballguy
While we may all love it (does anyone like Roy Williams?), I'm sure the vets in that lockerroom are not amused. Not a great way to get off on the right foot with your new teammates.
Manster
Footballguy
I am GIDDY about Romo to Bryant fo sho. BUT, the bolded above is a good statement to remember. ONE significant injury on the O-line and this season could be a tough one.
SO, i for one Cowboys fan, am remaining pretty reserved in my expectations for this year.
nice reality post.
mehif the veterans on the team need to set Dez straight they will. not saying it will be Roy.............
VaTerp
Footballguy
My comments were tongue in cheek. I never have been one to buy into the whole team "implosion" thing anyway. I think that's largely a media creation and much more a result of team's losing than a cause of it.See my previous comments in this thread on how I feel about the Cowboys this season. And those are not easy things for me to say.
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