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Dez's Digital Nomad Thread: Colombia (1 Viewer)

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Having dabbled in the pure stuff in Ecuador I will echo the above. Buddy there owned several high end restaurants and lined it up for us. I want to say it was $50-60 / 8ball (3.5G). 

Absolute lightning powder with minimal jitters, hangover, or jacked nose the next morning. Pretty amazing actually. I'm no pro/regular, so I'd just go with pinner lines to start then vial spoon bumps as needed. 
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Same...but when in Colombia 

 
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If your phone supports dual sim I HIGHLY suggest you convert your local sim to an eSim (just call your provider) then buy a local prepaid SIM card while there. Claro appears to be best coverage with 20 days / 4.5GB plan w unlimited social and text for  $5.50USD. Beats crazy intl roaming charges from your US provider. 
 
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I've got a separate phone that I use in Colombia with a Claro SIM.  I'll bring both phones with me and leave my U.S. phone in the apartment.  I can't risk losing it and cell phone robberies are very common there (I have had mine stolen before).

 
Got a forwarded response from my boss today, which was basically a number of questions that the company lawyer wants answered concerning visa requirements, payroll taxes, income taxes, and other work requirements.  They want them answered by an attorney familiar with Colombian immigration law, so I contacted https://www.medellinlawyer.com/ to see if they could help.  Once those questions are answered, they will have more concerning health insurance and workman's comp.

 
@[icon]and @The Z Machinehave you guys looked into income tax implications?  I thought I had researched it pretty thoroughly, but I've been looking some more this weekend and it seems like income you earn may be taxable where you are located when you earn it, rather than where your employer is located, where you are paid, or where you are a resident.

I'm waiting to hear back from the people from my above link, but I'm a bit more unsure now than I have been.

 
Dez89 said:
@[icon]and @The Z Machinehave you guys looked into income tax implications?  I thought I had researched it pretty thoroughly, but I've been looking some more this weekend and it seems like income you earn may be taxable where you are located when you earn it, rather than where your employer is located, where you are paid, or where you are a resident.

I'm waiting to hear back from the people from my above link, but I'm a bit more unsure now than I have been.
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I am not worrying about such things.  With a stay of 2 months, I think I still qualify as a full-time resident of MD and will file as such.

Not sure how long you'll be away, but if less than half a year, I honestly wouldn't sweat it.  Maybe if you have a complicated tax situation that would increase the odds for an audit, only then would I really look deeply into it.  Furthermore, it's up to the individual on how to file properly, not your employer, so they certainly shouldn't be concerned.

 
The Z Machine said:
I am not worrying about such things.  With a stay of 2 months, I think I still qualify as a full-time resident of MD and will file as such.

Not sure how long you'll be away, but if less than half a year, I honestly wouldn't sweat it.  Maybe if you have a complicated tax situation that would increase the odds for an audit, only then would I really look deeply into it.  Furthermore, it's up to the individual on how to file properly, not your employer, so they certainly shouldn't be concerned.
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Well that was my thought as well (less than 183-day stay) but if I intend to keep going back I suppose it's possible that authorities in Colombia may take notice and start to wonder if they're owed anything.

I agree totally that that part is not my employer's concern.  But they are wondering about payroll taxes and that kind of thing.  Guess we'll see what happens.

 
Dez89 said:
@[icon]and @The Z Machinehave you guys looked into income tax implications?  I thought I had researched it pretty thoroughly, but I've been looking some more this weekend and it seems like income you earn may be taxable where you are located when you earn it, rather than where your employer is located, where you are paid, or where you are a resident.

I'm waiting to hear back from the people from my above link, but I'm a bit more unsure now than I have been.
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I was only there 6 weeks so I didn't sweat it. If you're technically working in the USA (us employer - us main office) and on a tourist visa I think you're good. 

 
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I was only there 6 weeks so I didn't sweat it. If you're technically working in the USA (us employer - us main office) and on a tourist visa I think you're good. 
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The thing to concern yourself with is when you are no longer in Colombia on a tourist visa.  Say you apply and enter on some other resident visa.  Then you need to look at both Colombian and USA tax law.  BTW, do you have kids or other obligations in the USA?

 
The Z Machine said:
The thing to concern yourself with is when you are no longer in Colombia on a tourist visa.  Say you apply and enter on some other resident visa.  Then you need to look at both Colombian and USA tax law.  BTW, do you have kids or other obligations in the USA?
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No obligations, just own a home.  When I called the https://www.medellinlawyer.com/ that was the response I got from them regarding the tourist visa, and that had been my understanding as well.  So hopefully their official response matches up.  Guess I'll call them tomorrow and ask what's going on.

 
After two weeks of trying I finally got a lawyer in Colombia to respond to my email with the questions from the company.  He gave me the exact same answers that I had already given them.  So I forwarded that along this morning and we'll see what happens from here.  Hopefully they don't need anything more official, as he said he'd be happy to write a 1-2 page brief on the matter for $300.  I made sure to include that part in my forwarded email.

 
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Ugly stuff going on. 

I wouldn't think that would dissuade you from going though, right? 
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I guess it depends on which way things go.  I keep asking people down there what they think will happen.  I mean if things keep getting worse then it might deter me.  I need to make sure I have no issues with work this first time and civil unrest could lead to internet or power outages, etc.  Maybe?  Usually these things blow over but they had some similar things happen the end of 2019.  Between this and their current Covid spike it's got me thinking.  I've got some time though I think before I get the official go ahead, so maybe everything will resolve by then.

 
Dez89 said:
I guess it depends on which way things go.  I keep asking people down there what they think will happen.  I mean if things keep getting worse then it might deter me.  I need to make sure I have no issues with work this first time and civil unrest could lead to internet or power outages, etc.  Maybe?  Usually these things blow over but they had some similar things happen the end of 2019.  Between this and their current Covid spike it's got me thinking.  I've got some time though I think before I get the official go ahead, so maybe everything will resolve by then.
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Dooooo eeeeeet

 
The CEO's decision will be interesting.

Can't imagine a company sending any employee into the mess that Colombia is right now.

 
identikit said:
The CEO's decision will be interesting.

Can't imagine a company sending any employee into the mess that Colombia is right now.
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They are well aware that I've been going there for years.  I'd be surprised if many people know what's happening there at the moment, my guess is they'd be more concerned with Covid.

And I'm looking more for the approval than the timing.  As long as they give me the ok then I'll work out the timing myself.

The recent Covid wave seems to have peaked, and people there are telling me that the restrictions are getting better.

 
@Dez89Any reason why you would specifically ask for permission for Colombia and not just to work remotely, sometimes internationally, but with the understanding that you would be available as needed, complete work as required, and have all the infrastructure needed to perform your job? Sometimes the more specific things are the more attention they draw and the harder it is to get to a "yes".

 
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@Dez89Any reason why you would specifically ask for permission for Colombia and not just to work remotely, sometimes internationally, but with the understanding that you would be available as needed, complete work as required, and have all the infrastructure needed to perform your job? Sometimes the more specific things are the more attention they draw and the harder it is to get to a "yes".
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You know, that's a good question.  My original proposal to my boss (2 and a half years ago) was that I wanted to work remotely 2-3 months at a time with the idea that I would be abroad during that time (likely in Latin America).  But I guess he knew that meant Colombia, and I knew that meant Colombia, and without realizing it, it somehow just morphed into that being the proposal.  It didn't even occur to me until you said that.

 
Boss talked to the CEO yesterday.  Boss said CEO had some concerns but "not negative ones."  His first thoughts were understandably about the company, liability, etc. and didn't immediately say no.  Something came up about the worst case scenario (such as I get arrested for espionage), that there can't be any idea that the company asked me to go there and it was all of my volition, etc.  So then he said he to let him think about it.

 
Dez89 said:
Boss talked to the CEO yesterday.  Boss said CEO had some concerns but "not negative ones."  His first thoughts were understandably about the company, liability, etc. and didn't immediately say no.  Something came up about the worst case scenario (such as I get arrested for espionage), that there can't be any idea that the company asked me to go there and it was all of my volition, etc.  So then he said he to let him think about it.
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Will you quit if they don't let you do this?

 
The Z Machine said:
Will you quit if they don't let you do this?
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A few weeks ago I was actually asking myself if I should quit on the spot.  Then I thought maybe I should just go south and not tell them and keep getting paid until they find out and fire me.  Then the conservative engineer took control back and said I should start looking for something else and quit when I find it.  At the very least I might ask my boss who he wants me to start training.

My company is very niche and we are always teetering on the edge, so there's not much security.  I like my job but the main two reasons I'm still there are 1. my boss and 2. the belief that they give me the best shot to actually do this (work from outside of the country).  If the second one goes away then I guess why wouldn't I leave?

 
Dez89 said:
It's been a week and no word.  Talked to my boss today and he said he hasn't heard anything.  But he's been swamped with a customer issue since last week and hasn't really talked to the CEO.  I'm guessing I should hear something this week though?
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It's like, don't they know how much this means to you???

 
Ok, to lighten the mood a bit.  I was in Colombia during Easter week and had a good time.  Hung out a few days with a cute little 20-year old and ended up hooking up one night with an 18-year old with an amazing 5'9" modelesque body.  When I got back I decided to stick to local on my Tinder for a while.  Don't ask me why, but I do that now and again (hope springs eternal I guess).  In a month's time I'd matched with just one girl worth talking to, and that didn't go far.  So I switched my Tinder back to Barranquilla and I #### you not in 30 minutes I was chatting with 8 new chicas.  My experiences here and there are not only worlds apart, they are more like galaxies apart.  A few days ago I matched with a live one... 27, widow, slim, attractive, just looking for a salida de una noche.  Been talking to her since then and she's awaiting my next visit.  Like I say to myself at least once a week: I'VE GOT TO GET DOWN THERE!!!!!!!

 
Dez89 said:
Ok, to lighten the mood a bit.  I was in Colombia during Easter week and had a good time.  Hung out a few days with a cute little 20-year old and ended up hooking up one night with an 18-year old with an amazing 5'9" modelesque body.  When I got back I decided to stick to local on my Tinder for a while.  Don't ask me why, but I do that now and again (hope springs eternal I guess).  In a month's time I'd matched with just one girl worth talking to, and that didn't go far.  So I switched my Tinder back to Barranquilla and I #### you not in 30 minutes I was chatting with 8 new chicas.  My experiences here and there are not only worlds apart, they are more like galaxies apart.  A few days ago I matched with a live one... 27, widow, slim, attractive, just looking for a salida de una noche.  Been talking to her since then and she's awaiting my next visit.  Like I say to myself at least once a week: I'VE GOT TO GET DOWN THERE!!!!!!!
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Exit for the night? Salad with nachos?

My Spanish sucks.

 
eoMMan said:
Exit for the night? Salad with nachos?

My Spanish sucks.
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Basically a one-nighter.  It's probably better to say encuentro de una noche but the other way is the way she said it to me (I'm assuming she was trying to be a little more indirect).

 
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Omg, started talking to a couple of 18-year olds and a 19-year old over the weekend who are all recently single and only interested in someone to "hang out" with.  I HAVE TO GET DOWN THERE!!!

 
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