Did Indy cheat? (1 Viewer)

[geoff8695]

CBS = Lee Harvey Oswald. Except in this case, they were willing/knowing patsies taking the fall for fear of upsetting the most powerful entity in sports, the NFL.SOMEONE GET ME OLVER STONE!!!!

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[PatsWillWin]

CBS = Lee Harvey Oswald. Except in this case, they were willing/knowing patsies taking the fall for fear of upsetting the most powerful entity in sports, the NFL.

SOMEONE GET ME OLVER STONE!!!!

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That is a magic feedback error.

 

[Tau837]

Bob Kraft and a lot of posters in this thread =

 

[PatsWillWin]

Bob Kraft and a lot of posters in this thread =

I don't get why people think that Bob = Jonathan.

 

[IndyHavoc]

Man, my ignore list is just PILING up today!! Woot! Hey, what's the maximum # of users that can be on ignore?? Anyone know?

 

[Bad_Mo]

The NFL issued a statement Monday regarding artificial crowd nose that Jonathan Kraft, son of Patriots owner Bob Kraft, alleges was pumped into the RCA Dome during Sunday's New England-Indianapolis game.

"CBS has informed us that the unusual audio moment heard by fans during the Patriots-Colts telecast was the result of tape feedback in the CBS production truck and was isolated to the CBS broadcast," the statement from league spokesman Greg Aiello reads. Patriots coach Bill Belichick mentioned Monday that the team didn't have communication with Tom Brady during the game, which was a greater concern.

Source: Boston Globe

 

[Family Matters]

I think you might want to change your title, because the Colts weren't "caught" doing anything

Well they were caught with Addai running and catching the ball all over the Pats. What a sweet game by Addai. I wonder if there are still doubters?

 

[Tau837]

Bob Kraft and a lot of posters in this thread =

I don't get why people think that Bob = Jonathan.

My mistake, just saw that someone mentioned Bob earlier in the thread. No problem:Jonathan Kraft and a lot of posters in this thread =

 

[flyingsushi]

The Patriots remind me of this loser I work with. When, or after he gets in some sort of trouble, he likes to tell on others, even if it is not true.

 

[The Great Snook]

Man, my ignore list is just PILING up today!! Woot! Hey, what's the maximum # of users that can be on ignore?? Anyone know?

I'd answer you , but I have you on ignore

 

[sts911911]

I am amused by the fact that those folks who are refusing to at least acknowledge the CHANCE that there is a conspiracy were the ones leading the charge during "Cameragate"... calling for Bill's head before the investigation had even progressed beyond the "accusation stage"Coincidence?

Are you also amused by the fact that those who are claiming the colts cheated are also patriot fans?

 

[PatsWillWin]

I am amused by the fact that those folks who are refusing to at least acknowledge the CHANCE that there is a conspiracy were the ones leading the charge during "Cameragate"... calling for Bill's head before the investigation had even progressed beyond the "accusation stage"Coincidence?

Are you also amused by the fact that those who are claiming the colts cheated are also patriot fans?

This is untrue and deliberately misleading.

 

[switz]

I am amused by the fact that those folks who are refusing to at least acknowledge the CHANCE that there is a conspiracy were the ones leading the charge during "Cameragate"... calling for Bill's head before the investigation had even progressed beyond the "accusation stage"Coincidence?

Actually, the outcry about camera gate wasn't because someone "thought" a Pats employee was taping signals on the Jets sideline. The Pats were caught red handed. That is an entirely different situation.The fact that Pats fans jumped on this before there was any evidence is just another reason why the rest of the NFL and it's fans can't stand the majority of Patriot fans.And the fact you are trying to make these situations appear to be the same, just adds to my personal distaste for Patriot fans.

 

[switz]

I am amused by the fact that those folks who are refusing to at least acknowledge the CHANCE that there is a conspiracy were the ones leading the charge during "Cameragate"... calling for Bill's head before the investigation had even progressed beyond the "accusation stage"Coincidence?

Are you also amused by the fact that those who are claiming the colts cheated are also patriot fans?

This is untrue and deliberately misleading.

Which part? I don't see any other NFL team fans in an uproar that the Colts cheated... oh that's right, they didn't. Maybe that's the difference.Trying to tarnish the Colts is not going to remove the tarnish from the Patriots.

 

[phthalatemagic]

I am amused by the fact that those folks who are refusing to at least acknowledge the CHANCE that there is a conspiracy were the ones leading the charge during "Cameragate"... calling for Bill's head before the investigation had even progressed beyond the "accusation stage"Coincidence?

Are you also amused by the fact that those who are claiming the colts cheated are also patriot fans?

This is untrue and deliberately misleading.

Which part? I don't see any other NFL team fans in an uproar that the Colts cheated... oh that's right, they didn't. Maybe that's the difference.Trying to tarnish the Colts is not going to remove the tarnish from the Patriots.

You are only tempting the toxic waste perpetuators

 

[Road Warriors]

I am amused by the fact that those folks who are refusing to at least acknowledge the CHANCE that there is a conspiracy were the ones leading the charge during "Cameragate"... calling for Bill's head before the investigation had even progressed beyond the "accusation stage"Coincidence?

Actually, the outcry about camera gate wasn't because someone "thought" a Pats employee was taping signals on the Jets sideline. The Pats were caught red handed. That is an entirely different situation.The fact that Pats fans jumped on this before there was any evidence is just another reason why the rest of the NFL and it's fans can't stand the majority of Patriot fans.And the fact you are trying to make these situations appear to be the same, just adds to my personal distaste for Patriot fans.

So why spend so much of your time on Patriot topics? You know, a lot of Patriot fans hang out in those threads. Avoid them. Or do you like to stir the pot?

 

[Bill Lust]

I am amused by the fact that those folks who are refusing to at least acknowledge the CHANCE that there is a conspiracy were the ones leading the charge during "Cameragate"... calling for Bill's head before the investigation had even progressed beyond the "accusation stage"Coincidence?

Actually, the outcry about camera gate wasn't because someone "thought" a Pats employee was taping signals on the Jets sideline. The Pats were caught red handed. That is an entirely different situation.The fact that Pats fans jumped on this before there was any evidence is just another reason why the rest of the NFL and it's fans can't stand the majority of Patriot fans.And the fact you are trying to make these situations appear to be the same, just adds to my personal distaste for Patriot fans.

So why spend so much of your time on Patriot topics? You know, a lot of Patriot fans hang out in those threads. Avoid them. Or do you like to stir the pot?

Someone has a bit of a complex.

 

[PatsWillWin]

I am amused by the fact that those folks who are refusing to at least acknowledge the CHANCE that there is a conspiracy were the ones leading the charge during "Cameragate"... calling for Bill's head before the investigation had even progressed beyond the "accusation stage"

Coincidence?

Are you also amused by the fact that those who are claiming the colts cheated are also patriot fans?

This is untrue and deliberately misleading.

Which part? I don't see any other NFL team fans in an uproar that the Colts cheated... oh that's right, they didn't. Maybe that's the difference.Trying to tarnish the Colts is not going to remove the tarnish from the Patriots.

Then you're not reading the thread.Few people in this thread are in an "uproar."

Many, if not most (including the OP) of the people who discussed the possiblity of the Colts cheating in this fashion are not Patriot fans.

You classifying this thread of being entirely Patriot fans in an "uproar" trying to "remove the tarnish" from the Patriots is nothing more than what has become the commonplace anti-Patriot vitriol polluting the Shark Pool with whines about a collective of whiny Patriot fans that does not exist.

News flash: following the same NFL team does not mean you think the same way. I think a large portion of my fellow Patriot fans on this forum are idiots, but I came to that conclusion because each one of them individually earned it, not because of their affiliation with an NFL team. You might stop and for a second consider how ignorant it is to paint with such a broad brush.

 

[sho nuff]

time to put an * next to indy's achievements. :whoosh:

Why? Because CBS screwed up and has admitted it?

Or because NFL and CBS have a lucrative partnership and CBS wouldn't want to say (or not say) anything against the NFL's wishes??Good for Indy that this is getting swept under the rug before it can evolve into _____gate.

Good thing for Indy they did nothing wrong and did not get caught cheating like the Patriots did.Did the NFL also obtain all official copies of every radio feed and re-record them without that sound?Did they convince everyone in attendence that nothing happened?Take off the tinfoil hat.

bonds hasn't been caught either and he gets an *

By a fan...not by baseball.HTHAnd Bonds has admitted to taking certain substances...hth

 

[((Morpheus))]

I thought the Pats fans who were jumping on this topic were being facetious. I didn't realize some people were being serious

 

[PatsWillWin]

I thought the Pats fans who were jumping on this topic were being facetious. I didn't realize some people were being serious

What about the non-Pats fans who were "jumping on" this topic?

 

[Tenderknee]

There was a sign in the Colt endzone in the 4th quarter that read,

StADIUM..$675 MIL

QUARTERBACK...$9.9 MIL

PLAYIN' w/ INTEGRITY...

PRICELESS

That truth may come back to bite you.

Don't act so high and mighty when you are nothing but human.

We all make mistakes for the sake of greed.

Sometimes when you are at the top, there isn't anything you wouldn't do to stay there.

They made a mistake, and maybe your team too.

Of course I do understand poking an opponent in the eye just to get them ruffled at a game.

It's called "gamesmanship"....unfortunately it doesn't work too good against the Patriots.

That's called "fuel for the fire", and that just makes them mad.

Btw, I don't like the Patriots or Colts....I like the Chargers.

Don't accuse me of being a homer.

I just think you Colts and Pats fans are being silly about nothing.

 

[-Crippler-]

The Colts didn't cheat?

WOW! ...Imagine that

Some of you need to slip on a pair of sandals over your socks and walk outside...you have way too much time on your hands.

 

[enfuego]

The Colts didn't cheat? WOW! ...Imagine thatSome of you need to slip on a pair of sandals over your socks and walk outside...you have way too much time on your hands.

What? Someone cheated with with sandals on over their socks? I'm confused...

 

[PMENFAN]

Just goes to show that there is no cheating in the NFL. Every team does whatever it can to gain an advantage. All fair in Love, War and the NFL.

there was also apoint in the telecast where Brady was running to the sideline to get plays, because the headsets were "malrunctioning".

 

[mad sweeney]

Just goes to show that there is no cheating in the NFL. Every team does whatever it can to gain an advantage. All fair in Love, War and the NFL.

there was also apoint in the telecast where Brady was running to the sideline to get plays, because the headsets were "malrunctioning".

The headsets were NEVER malfunctioning. Brady couldn't hear over the noise.

 

[Tau837]

Just goes to show that there is no cheating in the NFL. Every team does whatever it can to gain an advantage. All fair in Love, War and the NFL.

there was also apoint in the telecast where Brady was running to the sideline to get plays, because the headsets were "malrunctioning".

The headsets were NEVER malfunctioning. Brady couldn't hear over the noise.

The Colts did not pipe in noise, nor did they interfere with the Pats' communications. What's next on the Pats fans' list of things the Colts did to cheat? :X

 

[PMENFAN]

Just goes to show that there is no cheating in the NFL. Every team does whatever it can to gain an advantage. All fair in Love, War and the NFL.

there was also apoint in the telecast where Brady was running to the sideline to get plays, because the headsets were "malrunctioning".

The headsets were NEVER malfunctioning. Brady couldn't hear over the noise.

Right, with the helmet on and the earpiece over his hear, the outside noise was too much? Gee, I always thought the playcalling effected the tackles from hearing line calls / audibles, etc. Never, have I heard pf it interfering w/ the QB hearing, until now. The 9'ers were known for this as well. Oh dang, our headsets don't work, so you can't use yours. Perfectopp for indy to employ the tactic. I'm not saying it's cheating. I'm saying it happens a lot in the league. People just like to make it an issue when the Patriots do such things though, because it's the Pats.

 

[Finless]

Just goes to show that there is no cheating in the NFL. Every team does whatever it can to gain an advantage. All fair in Love, War and the NFL.

there was also apoint in the telecast where Brady was running to the sideline to get plays, because the headsets were "malrunctioning".

The headsets were NEVER malfunctioning. Brady couldn't hear over the noise.

The Colts did not pipe in noise, nor did they interfere with the Pats' communications. What's next on the Pats fans' list of things the Colts did to cheat?

Excuse aren't needed when you win the game :X Anyhow, it's an interesting story if nothing else.

 

[Tau837]

Just goes to show that there is no cheating in the NFL. Every team does whatever it can to gain an advantage. All fair in Love, War and the NFL.

there was also apoint in the telecast where Brady was running to the sideline to get plays, because the headsets were "malrunctioning".

The headsets were NEVER malfunctioning. Brady couldn't hear over the noise.

Right, with the helmet on and the earpiece over his hear, the outside noise was too much? Gee, I always thought the playcalling effected the tackles from hearing line calls / audibles, etc. Never, have I heard pf it interfering w/ the QB hearing, until now.

The 9'ers were known for this as well. Oh dang, our headsets don't work, so you can't use yours. Perfectopp for indy to employ the tactic.

I'm not saying it's cheating. I'm saying it happens a lot in the league. People just like to make it an issue when the Patriots do such things though, because it's the Pats.

I believe Belichick said exactly this in his press conference. It was quoted in one of the threads today.

 

[Tau837]

Just goes to show that there is no cheating in the NFL. Every team does whatever it can to gain an advantage. All fair in Love, War and the NFL.

there was also apoint in the telecast where Brady was running to the sideline to get plays, because the headsets were "malrunctioning".

The headsets were NEVER malfunctioning. Brady couldn't hear over the noise.

The Colts did not pipe in noise, nor did they interfere with the Pats' communications. What's next on the Pats fans' list of things the Colts did to cheat?

Excuse aren't needed when you win the game :X Anyhow, it's an interesting story if nothing else.

Exactly why it is curious that so many Pats fans seem hell bent to find a source of Colts cheating yesterday when there is none to be found.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Just goes to show that there is no cheating in the NFL. Every team does whatever it can to gain an advantage. All fair in Love, War and the NFL.

there was also apoint in the telecast where Brady was running to the sideline to get plays, because the headsets were "malrunctioning".

The headsets were NEVER malfunctioning. Brady couldn't hear over the noise.

Right, with the helmet on and the earpiece over his hear, the outside noise was too much?

Exactly.

 

[encaitar]

Just goes to show that there is no cheating in the NFL. Every team does whatever it can to gain an advantage. All fair in Love, War and the NFL.

there was also apoint in the telecast where Brady was running to the sideline to get plays, because the headsets were "malrunctioning".

The headsets were NEVER malfunctioning. Brady couldn't hear over the noise.

Right, with the helmet on and the earpiece over his hear, the outside noise was too much? Gee, I always thought the playcalling effected the tackles from hearing line calls / audibles, etc. Never, have I heard pf it interfering w/ the QB hearing, until now.

The 9'ers were known for this as well. Oh dang, our headsets don't work, so you can't use yours. Perfectopp for indy to employ the tactic.

I'm not saying it's cheating. I'm saying it happens a lot in the league. People just like to make it an issue when the Patriots do such things though, because it's the Pats.

I believe Belichick said exactly this in his press conference. It was quoted in one of the threads today.

Belichick did say exactly this in his press conference. Plus, it's not like it's a sign of the Colts cheating if a system within a PATRIOT'S helmet is malfunctioning. This is nothing like not being able to call down plays from the booth, completely different especially considering the equipment for this is provided by the Patriots.

 

[mad sweeney]

Just goes to show that there is no cheating in the NFL. Every team does whatever it can to gain an advantage. All fair in Love, War and the NFL.

there was also apoint in the telecast where Brady was running to the sideline to get plays, because the headsets were "malrunctioning".

The headsets were NEVER malfunctioning. Brady couldn't hear over the noise.

Right, with the helmet on and the earpiece over his hear, the outside noise was too much? Gee, I always thought the playcalling effected the tackles from hearing line calls / audibles, etc. Never, have I heard pf it interfering w/ the QB hearing, until now. The 9'ers were known for this as well. Oh dang, our headsets don't work, so you can't use yours. Perfectopp for indy to employ the tactic. I'm not saying it's cheating. I'm saying it happens a lot in the league. People just like to make it an issue when the Patriots do such things though, because it's the Pats.

Uh, yeah. That's right. That's what BB said happened for one. For another, the Colts don't provide the Pats with their coach to QB system. So even IF there was a malfunction (which there wasn't) it would be a Pat's technical problem and have nothing whatsoever to do with the Colts. Just the noise drowned out BB's voice in that little tiny speaker in Brady's helmet. If you listened to or actually read any accounts of the problem it's very clear that BB and Brady just couldn't communicate over the headset because of the noise, but based on your semi-literate response, maybe it wasn't so clear after all. And as far as I know, the only team in the league with an actual reputation for headset malfunction is the Pats. And that's from the box to the field, which is the responsibility of the home team. Visiting teams bring their own coach to QB equipment.You should read the thread from the beginning, especially the parts about people talking out of their butts when they don't even know what happened. There was absolutely nothing that the Colts did that "happens a lot in the league", unless you think that the Colts were able to hack into the Pats system and block the transmission of Pat's equipment.

 

[encaitar]

There was absolutely nothing that the Colts did that "happens a lot in the league", unless you think that the Colts were able to hack into the Pats system and block the transmission of Pat's equipment.

Don't give them any fuel for their fire. It's already out of control.

 

[fatness]

Loud and Cleared: N.F.L. Says Colts Didn’t Pump in Noise

The National Football League cleared the Colts on Monday of complaints made by the Patriots — and first reported by Yahoo Sports — that the Colts had pumped artificial crowd noise into the RCA Dome during Sunday’s game.

An odd reverberating sound pattern could be heard on the CBS broadcast, but not inside the stadium. A statement released by the N.F.L. said CBS had explained the “unusual audio moment” as being the result of tape feedback.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Just goes to show that there is no cheating in the NFL. Every team does whatever it can to gain an advantage. All fair in Love, War and the NFL.

there was also apoint in the telecast where Brady was running to the sideline to get plays, because the headsets were "malrunctioning".

The headsets were NEVER malfunctioning. Brady couldn't hear over the noise.

Right, with the helmet on and the earpiece over his hear, the outside noise was too much? Gee, I always thought the playcalling effected the tackles from hearing line calls / audibles, etc. Never, have I heard pf it interfering w/ the QB hearing, until now. The 9'ers were known for this as well. Oh dang, our headsets don't work, so you can't use yours. Perfectopp for indy to employ the tactic. I'm not saying it's cheating. I'm saying it happens a lot in the league. People just like to make it an issue when the Patriots do such things though, because it's the Pats.

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Just stopping in to say I've officially put everyone who's still posting in this thread on my ignore list. "

That is all

 

[Marek]

I heard it and figured it was some accented crowd noise CBS adds to the broadcast - much like the bird sounds they add in at Augusta and other golf tourneys. I would bet that's what happened.

WINNER

 

[Marek]

Cheaters

Just goes to show that there is no cheating in the NFL. Every team does whatever it can to gain an advantage.

They've been doing this for 6 years :( It's good to have some hard evidence.

I heard this during the broadcast too... classless on Indy's part.

I remember this happening.I also remember Phil Simms saying "Brady has been forced to go the sideline to get the signal all game since this crowd has been so loud."Well, now we know.

Quite the stellar analysis there, gentlemen.