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[pinequick]

Heard this morning on Mike & Mike that Golic was going to undertake the conditioning test that Haynesworth has failed how-ever-many times. Anybody heard if Golic succeeded in passing it?

 

[JoeSteeler]

After taking test, Mike Golic not impressed with Haynesworth

Posted by Michael David Smith on August 2, 2010 4:46 PM ET

I'm not the only one who took the Redskins conditioning test today.

Mike Golic, the 47-year-old former NFL defensive tackle who's now an ESPN commentator, took the test on ESPN's NFL Live. Golic completed the two 300-yard shuttle runs in exactly the allotted time of 70 seconds for the first run and 73 seconds for the second.

ESPN may have given Golic a bit of a break: He actually looked like he took a head start on the first run, and it was inconclusive whether he crossed the finish line in time. But Golic did pass according to the stopwatch being held by his radio co-host Mike Greenberg, and afterward he said he was unimpressed with Albert Haynesworth's inability to pass the same test.

"Albert Haynesworth should have made this test -- he should have made this test," Golic said. "You have to come in and they have to see if you're in shape, and he wasn't able to do it. That's a big problem."

I'm not sure how big a problem it really is for a defensive tackle to be too slow to complete two 300-yard shuttle runs, but when people like Golic (and me) are passing the test that Haynesworth can't, that gives Redskins coach Mike Shanahan ammunition in his public battle with his $100 million defensive tackle.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/...th-haynesworth/

 

[Matt Waldman]

That's the best thing NFL-related I've heard all day.

 

[Stinkin Ref]

saw a thing on Haynesworth on ESPN I think after he signed his contract.......I know we could say this about a ton of players, but it really struck me with him.....think he cares more about spending his money than earning it.....

 

[Warhogs]

Anyone think his knee problem miht be a bigger injury than what they are letting on? It sounded from some reports that he appeared to look like he was in good shape so I am now wondering if he has something more than a minor knee issue?

 

[Matt Waldman]

saw a thing on Haynesworth on ESPN I think after he signed his contract.......I know we could say this about a ton of players, but it really struck me with him.....think he cares more about spending his money than earning it.....

I was re-reading a Sporting News Draft Guide sidebar piece on Haynesworth and his UT teammate John Henderson. Way back then, Haynesworth was seen as ultra-talented but lacking maturity. Some grow up sooner than others...and some wait until its too late.

 

[No Way Jose]

saw a thing on Haynesworth on ESPN I think after he signed his contract.......I know we could say this about a ton of players, but it really struck me with him.....think he cares more about spending his money than earning it.....

I can confirm he has a gigantic speed boat, but is a notoriously terrible tipper.

 

[fatness]

What does Golic weigh now? He's been doing those weight-loss commercials.

 

[Jason Wood]

What does Golic weigh now? He's been doing those weight-loss commercials.

He said he weighs 270 but that he was more fit than he had been in years because of P90X

 

[crush304]

it's just a power struggle between haynesworth and shanahan. haynesworth could pass the test and shanahan could just as easily not make him take it

 

[cobalt_27]

How embarrassing that a 47-year-old former player can pass the test and Haynesworth is so lazy and out of shape that he can't.

Good for Golic for putting an exclamation point on just how big of a clown this guy is.

 

[cobalt_27]

it's just a power struggle between haynesworth and shanahan. haynesworth could pass the test and shanahan could just as easily not make him take it

Not sure if you've heard or not, but Haynesworth has not been able to pass the test thus far. Shanny could let him not take it, but clearly he's not in any position to be on the practice field.

 

[Chewbanks]

Phillip Daniels, known for his physical fitness and workout regimen, has said that you need to specifically train for the conditioning test they're putting Haynesworth through and that most linemen with their regular fitness to get into playing/game shape couldn't pass it. Add to that that Haynesworth's the biggest guy on the field and you start having an understanding about this.

This is a Shanny power play, plain and simple. It's stupid. Haynesworth is fun and easy to vilify, and he's certainly done his share of things to earn that, but by every account he was training hard and came into camp in good shape. This isn't about that.

 

[pantherclub]

Both Mike and Mike need to be beaten with a tire iron.

 

[cobalt_27]

Phillip Daniels, known for his physical fitness and workout regimen, has said that you need to specifically train for the conditioning test they're putting Haynesworth through and that most linemen with their regular fitness to get into playing/game shape couldn't pass it. Add to that that Haynesworth's the biggest guy on the field and you start having an understanding about this. This is a Shanny power play, plain and simple. It's stupid. Haynesworth is fun and easy to vilify, and he's certainly done his share of things to earn that, but by every account he was training hard and came into camp in good shape. This isn't about that.

Clearly Golic didn't train specifically for this test, given that he was asked just yesterday to do it. If Haynesworth were in good shape, he would have passed the test, plain and simple.

 

[fsufan]

it's just a power struggle between haynesworth and shanahan. haynesworth could pass the test and shanahan could just as easily not make him take it

Not sure if you've heard or not, but Haynesworth has not been able to pass the test thus far. Shanny could let him not take it, but clearly he's not in any position to be on the practice field.

Joe McKnight failed his test to, not sure what that means

 

[No Way Jose]

Phillip Daniels, known for his physical fitness and workout regimen, has said that you need to specifically train for the conditioning test they're putting Haynesworth through and that most linemen with their regular fitness to get into playing/game shape couldn't pass it. Add to that that Haynesworth's the biggest guy on the field and you start having an understanding about this. This is a Shanny power play, plain and simple. It's stupid. Haynesworth is fun and easy to vilify, and he's certainly done his share of things to earn that, but by every account he was training hard and came into camp in good shape. This isn't about that.

Clearly Golic didn't train specifically for this test, given that he was asked just yesterday to do it. If Haynesworth were in good shape, he would have passed the test, plain and simple.

Doesnt sound like Golic passed....anyway, if you actually think Golic is in better shape than Haynesworth, then I'm sorry.

 

[cobalt_27]

it's just a power struggle between haynesworth and shanahan. haynesworth could pass the test and shanahan could just as easily not make him take it

Not sure if you've heard or not, but Haynesworth has not been able to pass the test thus far. Shanny could let him not take it, but clearly he's not in any position to be on the practice field.

Joe McKnight failed his test to, not sure what that means

Way. Out. Of. Shape. That's what that means.

 

[cobalt_27]

Phillip Daniels, known for his physical fitness and workout regimen, has said that you need to specifically train for the conditioning test they're putting Haynesworth through and that most linemen with their regular fitness to get into playing/game shape couldn't pass it. Add to that that Haynesworth's the biggest guy on the field and you start having an understanding about this. This is a Shanny power play, plain and simple. It's stupid. Haynesworth is fun and easy to vilify, and he's certainly done his share of things to earn that, but by every account he was training hard and came into camp in good shape. This isn't about that.

Clearly Golic didn't train specifically for this test, given that he was asked just yesterday to do it. If Haynesworth were in good shape, he would have passed the test, plain and simple.

Doesnt sound like Golic passed....anyway, if you actually think Golic is in better shape than Haynesworth, then I'm sorry.

Even if he didn't, he came sure as hell a lot closer than Fat Albert. Plus, you are aware that Golic is 47 years old and retired from pro sports, right? Haynesworth is being paid $100 million to be committed to keeping his body in top physical condition.

 

[Sopranos25]

Albert signed a huge contract. Like 70 mill. He wont do nothing. He wanted traded why would he?

 

[Chewbanks]

Phillip Daniels, known for his physical fitness and workout regimen, has said that you need to specifically train for the conditioning test they're putting Haynesworth through and that most linemen with their regular fitness to get into playing/game shape couldn't pass it. Add to that that Haynesworth's the biggest guy on the field and you start having an understanding about this. This is a Shanny power play, plain and simple. It's stupid. Haynesworth is fun and easy to vilify, and he's certainly done his share of things to earn that, but by every account he was training hard and came into camp in good shape. This isn't about that.

Clearly Golic didn't train specifically for this test, given that he was asked just yesterday to do it. If Haynesworth were in good shape, he would have passed the test, plain and simple.

Um, no. Golic also doesn't weigh over 300 lbs and carry the extra playing weight. You're familiar with the game of football, right?

 

[fatness]

Mike Shanahan

The joint has became a concern, and Shanahan said that even if Haynesworth had passed the test a week ago, the knee problem would have prevented him from practicing the past few days.

"It's like somebody spraining an ankle," Shanahan said. "You sprain an ankle and you can't run, you can't run and you can't practice. Just like if you're knee's bothering you and you can't go out there and run, you can't practice."

 

[No Way Jose]

Phillip Daniels, known for his physical fitness and workout regimen, has said that you need to specifically train for the conditioning test they're putting Haynesworth through and that most linemen with their regular fitness to get into playing/game shape couldn't pass it. Add to that that Haynesworth's the biggest guy on the field and you start having an understanding about this. This is a Shanny power play, plain and simple. It's stupid. Haynesworth is fun and easy to vilify, and he's certainly done his share of things to earn that, but by every account he was training hard and came into camp in good shape. This isn't about that.

Clearly Golic didn't train specifically for this test, given that he was asked just yesterday to do it. If Haynesworth were in good shape, he would have passed the test, plain and simple.

Doesnt sound like Golic passed....anyway, if you actually think Golic is in better shape than Haynesworth, then I'm sorry.

Even if he didn't, he came sure as hell a lot closer than Fat Albert. Plus, you are aware that Golic is 47 years old and retired from pro sports, right? Haynesworth is being paid $100 million to be committed to keeping his body in top physical condition.

you are proving my point....the test doesnt mean anything. I could pass the test, but I couldnt play DT. Its a stupid test for a DT anyway. I hope Shanny is happy now that Albert has bum knee. Plus I wouldnt be surprised if he didnt want to pass the test, and get the heck out of there.

 

[Chewbanks]

Albert signed a huge contract. Like 70 mill. He wont do nothing. He wanted traded why would he?

Again in English.

 

[Chewbanks]

Phillip Daniels, known for his physical fitness and workout regimen, has said that you need to specifically train for the conditioning test they're putting Haynesworth through and that most linemen with their regular fitness to get into playing/game shape couldn't pass it. Add to that that Haynesworth's the biggest guy on the field and you start having an understanding about this.

This is a Shanny power play, plain and simple. It's stupid. Haynesworth is fun and easy to vilify, and he's certainly done his share of things to earn that, but by every account he was training hard and came into camp in good shape. This isn't about that.

Clearly Golic didn't train specifically for this test, given that he was asked just yesterday to do it. If Haynesworth were in good shape, he would have passed the test, plain and simple.

Doesnt sound like Golic passed....anyway, if you actually think Golic is in better shape than Haynesworth, then I'm sorry.

Even if he didn't, he came sure as hell a lot closer than Fat Albert. Plus, you are aware that Golic is 47 years old and retired from pro sports, right? Haynesworth is being paid $100 million to be committed to keeping his body in top physical condition.

Yes, like running those all-important 300-yard sprints to simulate when you have to catch a cab outside the other end of the stadium.

 

[WVU Alum]

It's a friggin shuttle run people. He is either way out of shape or he is milking it.

 

[bigums]

Yes, like running those all-important 300-yard sprints to simulate when you have to catch a cab outside the other end of the stadium.

It's a 300 shuttle, which is much more like what they face on the field than a sprint. It's 12 trips of 25 yards. It's akin to playing 12 or so plays in a 2 minute drill with no sub. Golic looked okay from a conditioning standpoint, but it was clear that his legs were not there. He's also 47 and out of football for 15+ years.And realistically, this should be no problem for Al if he's in shape. High school and college kids all over the country do these every year as conditioning drills. Most of them are nowhere near his talent or athletic ability.

 

[Sopranos25]

I dont see whats hard to figure. An over paid gut that skipped OTS's now he has to do a test. He wanted traded. He makes 70mill pus. they are going to run the guy to death. he deserves it. I dont feel sorry for him. Give me a mill and i will run and i mean run, im 40 but i ran a 100 yard dash in 9.5 when i was 22 and i can do it now if i was paid. Dont know about you but i bust my ### everyday to make it

 

[No Way Jose]

Albert gets paid to dominate on the field not run wind sprints, and thats what he will do. Either with the redskins or someone else. Its not his fault that the Skins gave him a rediculous amount of money to play in a scheme that he has never played in and was told he never would.

 

[Sopranos25]

Albert gets paid to dominate on the field not run wind sprints, and thats what he will do. Either with the redskins or someone else. Its not his fault that the Skins gave him a rediculous amount of money to play in a scheme that he has never played in and was told he never would.

Just because they changed defenses does not give him the right to demand anything

 

[Sopranos25]

Albert gets paid to dominate on the field not run wind sprints, and thats what he will do. Either with the redskins or someone else. Its not his fault that the Skins gave him a rediculous amount of money to play in a scheme that he has never played in and was told he never would.

He may not see the field

 

[No Way Jose]

Albert gets paid to dominate on the field not run wind sprints, and thats what he will do. Either with the redskins or someone else. Its not his fault that the Skins gave him a rediculous amount of money to play in a scheme that he has never played in and was told he never would.

Just because they changed defenses does not give him the right to demand anything

I think everyone has the right to demand anything you want...doesnt mean you are gone get it, its a free world.

 

[Sopranos25]

Albert gets paid to dominate on the field not run wind sprints, and thats what he will do. Either with the redskins or someone else. Its not his fault that the Skins gave him a rediculous amount of money to play in a scheme that he has never played in and was told he never would.

Just because they changed defenses does not give him the right to demand anything

I think everyone has the right to demand anything you want...doesnt mean you are gone get it, its a free world.

True and thats why he is paying. They will make him suffer. To be honest i dont think the rat cares if he is part of the team or not.

 

[VaTerp]

I dont see whats hard to figure. An over paid gut that skipped OTS's now he has to do a test. He wanted traded. He makes 70mill pus. they are going to run the guy to death. he deserves it. I dont feel sorry for him. Give me a mill and i will run and i mean run, im 40 but i ran a 100 yard dash in 9.5 when i was 22 and i can do it now if i was paid. Dont know about you but i bust my ### everyday to make it

Complete and utter BS!!!!!! So you have world class speed and could run a 9.5 100 right now? That's probably the most ridiculous thing I have read on the internet in months. And that's saying something. What Olympics did you compete in? What NCAA track and field championships were you involved with?

I love how every Tom, ****, and Harry is talking about how easy this test is, how their 11 year old daughters can do this, and how they are friggin world class sprinters at 40.

Fact of the matter is that Haynesworth is in better shape than he was last year having lost 35 lbs. Fact is that multiple current and former NFL players say that this is a hard test to pass, especially if you havent trained specifically for it. Fact of the matter is that Haynesworth still weighs 330 or so pounds and is 6'6 making it a lil more difficult to reach down and touch the line, especially when the test is done in 25 yard increments instead of 50. Fact of the matter is that he has a knee issue that various reports say is a legitimate factor here.

I don't feel sorry for the man. But I'm not going to persecute him either. Shanahan is doing what he feels is best for the team and I am going to trust his judgment right now. I think more than anything he is testing Haynesworth will and seeing how committed he is and if he is willing to deal with adversity.

Everybody is making a big deal out of it and the media is feeding the frenzy. Come September, if and when Haynesworth is making plays, this will be a non issue and people will be spewing BS about some other garbage/

 

[Sopranos25]

I dont see whats hard to figure. An over paid gut that skipped OTS's now he has to do a test. He wanted traded. He makes 70mill pus. they are going to run the guy to death. he deserves it. I dont feel sorry for him. Give me a mill and i will run and i mean run, im 40 but i ran a 100 yard dash in 9.5 when i was 22 and i can do it now if i was paid. Dont know about you but i bust my ### everyday to make it

Complete and utter BS!!!!!! So you have world class speed and could run a 9.5 100 right now? That's probably the most ridiculous thing I have read on the internet in months. And that's saying something. What Olympics did you compete in? What NCAA track and field championships were you involved with?

I love how every Tom, ****, and Harry is talking about how easy this test is, how their 11 year old daughters can do this, and how they are friggin world class sprinters at 40.

Fact of the matter is that Haynesworth is in better shape than he was last year having lost 35 lbs. Fact is that multiple current and former NFL players say that this is a hard test to pass, especially if you havent trained specifically for it. Fact of the matter is that Haynesworth still weighs 330 or so pounds and is 6'6 making it a lil more difficult to reach down and touch the line, especially when the test is done in 25 yard increments instead of 50. Fact of the matter is that he has a knee issue that various reports say is a legitimate factor here.

I don't feel sorry for the man. But I'm not going to persecute him either. Shanahan is doing what he feels is best for the team and I am going to trust his judgment right now. I think more than anything he is testing Haynesworth will and seeing how committed he is and if he is willing to deal with adversity.

Everybody is making a big deal out of it and the media is feeding the frenzy. Come September, if and when Haynesworth is making plays, this will be a non issue and people will be spewing BS about some other garbage/

When did i say i had world class speed?

 

[VaTerp]

im 40 but i ran a 100 yard dash in 9.5 when i was 22 and i can do it now if i was paid. Dont know about you but i bust my ### everyday to make it

When did i say i had world class speed?

 

[Sopranos25]

im 40 but i ran a 100 yard dash in 9.5 when i was 22 and i can do it now if i was paid. Dont know about you but i bust my ### everyday to make it

When did i say i had world class speed?

Yea i was fast i knew that. no big deal. Thats not a record here. i was 2nd at center grove in 1987..... i ran it in 1997 at a track met in Indy,

 

[fatkid]

Golic didn't get all the way to the line most of the time, had a jump on the second and got a couple of favorable end timings in order to finish. That being said, If Haynesworth had run his exactly like Golic had, the Redskins would have passed him.

 

[socrates]

saw a thing on Haynesworth on ESPN I think after he signed his contract.......I know we could say this about a ton of players, but it really struck me with him.....think he cares more about spending his money than earning it.....

Haynesworth IS a ton of player. I get that it is a shuttle run, but if he cannot pass this, he is not in the type of condition he is being handsomely compensated to be in. Conditioning IS important.

 

[VaTerp]

im 40 but i ran a 100 yard dash in 9.5 when i was 22 and i can do it now if i was paid. Dont know about you but i bust my ### everyday to make it

When did i say i had world class speed?

Yea i was fast i knew that. no big deal. Thats not a record here. i was 2nd at center grove in 1987..... i ran it in 1997 at a track met in Indy,

Sure you did. So let me get this straight. You claim to have run a 9.5 100 at age 22 in 1997? And 13 years later in 2010 you are now 40 not 35 right? OK.

You ask when you said you had world class speed? You do realize that a 9.5 in the 100 would be world class speed seeing as how it would be the FASTEST time ever recorded by a human. But you know your fast.... "no big deal" right?

I mean I'm sure people lie on the internet all the time but this has to be one of the most astonishing lies of all time. Just say you've had a few drinks too many on a Monday night and give it a rest.

ETA- Just realized I was confusing meters with yards. My mistake. But I still don't believe you.

 

[Novice2]

They broke the 100 million dollar man.

 

[Sopranos25]

PT is i wasnt the fastest guy around. I got Beat. Lloyd Slinkark beat me a few times. In high school we both ran a 10.2 in the 100 meter but he won by a foot or so.. i was faster from the start he was a better runner. I never got a 40 time because there wasnt one thrn but that was my thing

 

[Sopranos25]

Well look it up.9.5 isnt a record in my state. Indiana. If you want to run bring it on im 41 but if i streach i can run

 

[VaTerp]

PT is i wasnt the fastest guy around. I got Beat. Lloyd Slinkark beat me a few times. In high school we both ran a 10.2 in the 100 meter but he won by a foot or so.. i was faster from the start he was a better runner. I never got a 40 time because there wasnt one thrn but that was my thing

Ok so I was mistakenly thinking meters instead of yards. But that still doesnt explain the age discrepancy and considering that a 9.5 would be in the top 70 for 100 yard dashes ever recorded, I think that would qualify as world class speed, no?

 

[Sopranos25]

PT is i wasnt the fastest guy around. I got Beat. Lloyd Slinkark beat me a few times. In high school we both ran a 10.2 in the 100 meter but he won by a foot or so.. i was faster from the start he was a better runner. I never got a 40 time because there wasnt one thrn but that was my thing

Ok so I was mistakenly thinking meters instead of yards. But that still doesnt explain the age discrepancy and considering that a 9.5 would be in the top 70 for 100 yard dashes ever recorded, I think that would qualify as world class speed, no?

I agree. I thought i set a record in 1989 and they said no. I sprinted a few more meets and i was done. the point WAS if i got a HUGE paycheck i can run....

 

[VaTerp]

Well look it up.9.5 isnt a record in my state. Indiana. If you want to run bring it on im 41 but if i streach i can run

Tried to look it up and only found Indiana records for meters not yards. Care to provide a link to the Indiana 100 YARD record book?

 

[Sopranos25]

PT is i wasnt the fastest guy around. I got Beat. Lloyd Slinkark beat me a few times. In high school we both ran a 10.2 in the 100 meter but he won by a foot or so.. i was faster from the start he was a better runner. I never got a 40 time because there wasnt one thrn but that was my thing

Ok so I was mistakenly thinking meters instead of yards. But that still doesnt explain the age discrepancy and considering that a 9.5 would be in the top 70 for 100 yard dashes ever recorded, I think that would qualify as world class speed, no?

 

[Sopranos25]

PT is i wasnt the fastest guy around. I got Beat. Lloyd Slinkark beat me a few times. In high school we both ran a 10.2 in the 100 meter but he won by a foot or so.. i was faster from the start he was a better runner. I never got a 40 time because there wasnt one thrn but that was my thing

Ok so I was mistakenly thinking meters instead of yards. But that still doesnt explain the age discrepancy and considering that a 9.5 would be in the top 70 for 100 yard dashes ever recorded, I think that would qualify as world class speed, no?

 

[VaTerp]

PT is i wasnt the fastest guy around. I got Beat. Lloyd Slinkark beat me a few times. In high school we both ran a 10.2 in the 100 meter but he won by a foot or so.. i was faster from the start he was a better runner. I never got a 40 time because there wasnt one thrn but that was my thing

Ok so I was mistakenly thinking meters instead of yards. But that still doesnt explain the age discrepancy and considering that a 9.5 would be in the top 70 for 100 yard dashes ever recorded, I think that would qualify as world class speed, no?

I agree. I thought i set a record in 1989 and they said no. I sprinted a few more meets and i was done. the point WAS if i got a HUGE paycheck i can run....

Still too many holes in your story but I'm done with it.Haynesworth is paid to collapse pockets, penetrate backfields, pressure QBs, occupy offensive lineman, and make tackles. Not run shuttle runs of distances that he will rarely have to do in games.And I'm not so much defending him as I am calling out the BS that I see flying everywhere.

 

[bro1ncos]

Here is a female news reporter that tried taking the test. (She is about a 6) She did it with no training, while she failed the test she didn't miss by much. An NFL lineman that should be working out fairly consistently prior to camp should be able to complete this test.

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