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So my opponent this week had Dan Carpenter - Mia as his kicker, but dropped him for Akers on Sunday Morning. Problem is, he left his kicker position empty. Most of the rest of his roster blew up having Tolbert, Ray Rice and Stafford.

I am losing 150 - 167, he has no players left and I have Moreno and Patriots Def.

Matt Prater is available and plays tonight. My opponent could pick him up and play him. All the other kickers still to play tonight are taken or on Waivers (Carpenter cause he was dropped). Do I pick up Prater so he has no K this week or let it go? We have deep benches and I'd end up dropping Aaron Hernandez TE-NE as my backup TE.

Thoughts...

ETA - I'm the commish in this league.

 
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So he had entered a starting lineup. Last minute he adds a pk and drops a pk giving him only one on his roster. Guy probably just assumed that would become his starter. Sucks no one, commish, pointed out his miscue.

Now you want to further screw him.

You sound like a piece of work. :thumbdown:

Get lost with this junk.

 
So he had entered a starting lineup. Last minute he adds a pk and drops a pk giving him only one on his roster. Guy probably just assumed that would become his starter. Sucks no one, commish, pointed out his miscue.Now you want to further screw him.You sound like a piece of work. :thumbdown: Get lost with this junk.
I don't see how it is the commissioners job to make sure you start your lineup correctly. Typical blame everyone but yourself mentality there.He had all day to pick up Prater after he realized his mistake.I have done the exact same thing before when adding a player late and forgot to resubmit my line up. Guess what? It never happened again.
 
So he had entered a starting lineup. Last minute he adds a pk and drops a pk giving him only one on his roster. Guy probably just assumed that would become his starter. Sucks no one, commish, pointed out his miscue.Now you want to further screw him.You sound like a piece of work. :thumbdown: Get lost with this junk.
He dropped/added at ~8:00 AM EST, 5 hours before gametime.I don't check everyone's roster before gametime to be sure they have started someone in every position, never have. I was at a 9-11 ceremony all morning and didn't get home until after the early games started. If this was a matchup I wasn't in, I wouldn't use my commish powers to place the kicker in his starting roster after the games started, so I don't think I should when I'm playing him either.I haven't done anything yet. :shrug:
 
So he had entered a starting lineup. Last minute he adds a pk and drops a pk giving him only one on his roster. Guy probably just assumed that would become his starter. Sucks no one, commish, pointed out his miscue.Now you want to further screw him.You sound like a piece of work. :thumbdown: Get lost with this junk.
I don't see how it is the commissioners job to make sure you start your lineup correctly. Typical blame everyone but yourself mentality there.He had all day to pick up Prater after he realized his mistake.I have done the exact same thing before when adding a player late and forgot to resubmit my line up. Guess what? It never happened again.
Would it be fair to league to let an owner start no one? Giving one owner a free win.
 
So he had entered a starting lineup. Last minute he adds a pk and drops a pk giving him only one on his roster. Guy probably just assumed that would become his starter. Sucks no one, commish, pointed out his miscue.Now you want to further screw him.You sound like a piece of work. :thumbdown: Get lost with this junk.
I don't see how it is the commissioners job to make sure you start your lineup correctly. Typical blame everyone but yourself mentality there.He had all day to pick up Prater after he realized his mistake.I have done the exact same thing before when adding a player late and forgot to resubmit my line up. Guess what? It never happened again.
Would it be fair to league to let an owner start no one? Giving one owner a free win.
Not if he did it intentionally, that would be considered tanking and they should be kicked out of the league.If someone else in the league told the guy he could pick up a kicker now I wouldn't have a problem with it, but I dont think it is the person he is platings responsibility.
 
Is this a league of friends? If so I would probably go with his intent and give him the points for Akers. If its a more competitive situation then by all means pick up Prater and don't think twice about it.

 
Is this a league of friends? If so I would probably go with his intent and give him the points for Akers. If its a more competitive situation then by all means pick up Prater and don't think twice about it.
It's family/friends. I don't think I should just give him the points. It sets a bad precedence. I'll probably just leave Prater out there. He still has a chance to pick him up and play him, if he doesn't he has no one to blame but himself.
 
Leave Prater out there and post a message telling him about the empty kicker spot. It's the right thing to do.

You could still end up winning, and it avoids a possible controversy. Plus, you end up looking like a legit commish instead of an ####.

 
I'd put Akers in for him.

He has no other kicker and he picked the guy up that morning - he obviously picked him up to start him. The "precedent" to treat each other fairly isn't a bad one to set.

 
If he only has 1 kicker on his roster ... commish should add him to the lineup

If he has more than 1 kicker ... Commish adds the lowest scoring kicker to the lineup

 
I'd put Akers in for him.He has no other kicker and he picked the guy up that morning - he obviously picked him up to start him. The "precedent" to treat each other fairly isn't a bad one to set.
I'd go with this. The guy's intent was pretty clear. He picked up Akers to play him. The "precedent" is not as damning as you make it out to be.
 
In Herm Edwards voice...."You play to win the game"
:goodposting: The enemy deserves no mercy! I check, adjust my lineup at least 5 to 10 times on sunday alone. The commish is not suppose to hold the hands of owners who dont pay attention. If its within the rules I would pick up the kicker and then tell him tough, you should pay more attention to your team like I do. :boxing:
 
Obviously, I wouldn't try to block him from picking up Prater (unless it's a huge money league).

The only real question is whether or not you should give him the Aker points.

It kind of stinks for you, but you probably just ought to do it. Get yourself some good fantasy karma and hope Moreno goes off.

Bonus: If you do lose, which you very well could, at least it won't be to a team that didn't have a kicker.

 
I can't believe that some of you would put points on the board off the bench. I would not play in that league again.

I forgot to remove Foster in a league and meant to start Tolbert. Maybe I should complain to the commish and tell him that my intent was to start Tolbert I just forgot to start him. I bet that would go over like a wet fart.

 
I can't believe that some of you would put points on the board off the bench. I would not play in that league again.I forgot to remove Foster in a league and meant to start Tolbert. Maybe I should complain to the commish and tell him that my intent was to start Tolbert I just forgot to start him. I bet that would go over like a wet fart.
I'm talking about if it's my opponent, especially if I'm the commish, and it's a kicker that they picked that morning with the clear intent to start.I'm sure you see the distinction between this and your Tolbert example.In these situations, it should be up to the opponent of the guy who screwed up. Personally, I don't want to win because a guy forgot to hit a button and his intent was crystal clear.The only thing that wouldn't be fair to is the rest of the people in the league I just got a cheap win in.
 
Literly same thing is happening in my league right now except I am not involved. The guy is down 20 with Moreno I think and has no kicker...It is a kid yearly I have problems with to check his lineup (it is with friends and we kick people out yearly and he is not the worst offender but has his weeks) but I do not feel as the commish it is my job to put a kicker in for him, but I feel it is my job after the game if he did not put a kicker in to scold him. The kid he is playing asked me if I should tell him to pick up a kicker or if he should pick up Prater and I told him it is up to him if he wants to tell him but that I did not feel that it is his requirement to do so, and I told him as far as picking up Prater goes it is his call some people will frown upon him while others will give him credit for a nice move.

 
Leave Prater out there and post a message telling him about the empty kicker spot. It's the right thing to do.

You could still end up winning, and it avoids a possible controversy. Plus, you end up looking like a legit commish instead of an ####.
This is correct but don't be surprised when somebody doesn't do it for you.
 
I can't believe that some of you would put points on the board off the bench. I would not play in that league again.I forgot to remove Foster in a league and meant to start Tolbert. Maybe I should complain to the commish and tell him that my intent was to start Tolbert I just forgot to start him. I bet that would go over like a wet fart.
Comparing those two is idiotic. Dude picked up a replacement kicker that morning that auto went to his bench with no starter in place and no other kicker on his roster. His intent is obvious there. If you had dropped Foster for another RB who you forgot to start and had no other RB on your roster, then that absurd scenario would be comparable. Yes, if this was a serious, big money league, I'd take the stance that rules are rules and do whatever I could to ensure victory. In a friends/family league, I give the guy Akers' points and send a reminder out to the league that when they pick up a player they will never be automatically placed in their starting lineup.
 
Another wrinkle in this is that we have a weekly payout for highest score of the week. If I "Give" him the points for Akers, he passes the current point leader and has the most total points for the week. The other guy is finished, so doing this will cause the current leader to lose most points for the week. It also could impact total points for the year which is a large portion of the prize pool.

This just doesn't impact my game.

 
Another wrinkle in this is that we have a weekly payout for highest score of the week. If I "Give" him the points for Akers, he passes the current point leader and has the most total points for the week. The other guy is finished, so doing this will cause the current leader to lose most points for the week. It also could impact total points for the year which is a large portion of the prize pool.This just doesn't impact my game.
I don't see how that changes anything. Everything depends on how serious this league is IMO.
 
I can't believe that some of you would put points on the board off the bench. I would not play in that league again.I forgot to remove Foster in a league and meant to start Tolbert. Maybe I should complain to the commish and tell him that my intent was to start Tolbert I just forgot to start him. I bet that would go over like a wet fart.
This is different - what you are talking about is not paying attention. What this guy did is not know how the website handles free agent pickups. If he's used to Sportsline, then he would have expected the change to happen automatically. He also may have seen it in his lineup, and not realized he needed to push more buttons.My first year on MFL, I didn't "submit" a Week 2 lineup because it was the exact same as Week 1, and I didn't realize that's the website functions (or at least, how it did back then - not sure any more). My zero for the week also didn't go very well.
 
Don't put Akers into the lineup. He has already played.

You should draw attention to the fact that he has an empty spot in his lineup, and leave it at that. Let him pick up Prater if he wants (don't block him).

 
I can't believe that some of you would put points on the board off the bench. I would not play in that league again.I forgot to remove Foster in a league and meant to start Tolbert. Maybe I should complain to the commish and tell him that my intent was to start Tolbert I just forgot to start him. I bet that would go over like a wet fart.
This is different - what you are talking about is not paying attention. What this guy did is not know how the website handles free agent pickups. If he's used to Sportsline, then he would have expected the change to happen automatically. He also may have seen it in his lineup, and not realized he needed to push more buttons.My first year on MFL, I didn't "submit" a Week 2 lineup because it was the exact same as Week 1, and I didn't realize that's the website functions (or at least, how it did back then - not sure any more). My zero for the week also didn't go very well.
Understood.This is a Yahoo league. He's been in this league for 6 years using yahoo all along. This is not something new, but it definitely was a mistake on his part. I've had a team in the past forget to set his lineup and had a TE on a bye with a backup available and I've never substituted a player after the fact. This league gives negative points for a Kicker if they miss FG's or XP's. If Akers had been negative, should I have substituted him after the games reducing his score? This is why it is the owners responsibility to check his lineup so we don't run into these situations.
 
I can't believe that some of you would put points on the board off the bench. I would not play in that league again.I forgot to remove Foster in a league and meant to start Tolbert. Maybe I should complain to the commish and tell him that my intent was to start Tolbert I just forgot to start him. I bet that would go over like a wet fart.
This is different - what you are talking about is not paying attention. What this guy did is not know how the website handles free agent pickups. If he's used to Sportsline, then he would have expected the change to happen automatically. He also may have seen it in his lineup, and not realized he needed to push more buttons.My first year on MFL, I didn't "submit" a Week 2 lineup because it was the exact same as Week 1, and I didn't realize that's the website functions (or at least, how it did back then - not sure any more). My zero for the week also didn't go very well.
I have never played on a website that you didnt have to submit your entire line up. And not starting your kicker is not paying attention as you mentioned before. If I did that, there is no way I would ask the commish to give me his points.
 
Is this the guy's girst year in the league or using this stat service? Maybe he really didn't/doesn't know he is not getting points for Akers. Not everyone perches on their laptop checking the scores every few seconds. If he is that type of owner that just sets it and forgets it - give him a head sup that he doesn't have a kicker...one time. If this happens to him again then it is just negligence. First one, I'd give at leats a heads up under the assumption he may be unfamiliar with the way adds/drops work.

 
maybe send him an email:

hey mitch- how are YOU doing? i almost FORGOT i had the privilege TO PLAY you this week. i spilled A beer on my crotch today. heres the KICKER, i just shaved my "area" and it felt great.

 
no way Id put Akers into his lineup. What if Akers put up a 0? Would you put him into his lineup then? Then hed complain and say he still had time to pick up Prater

 
I wonder how many people saying he should "do the right thing" and tell the guy to start a kicker, or even worse give him Akers' points were also against "table talk" in that other thread because it's really the same thing. Telling him to pick up and start a kicker or giving him Akers' points could screw someone else out of high points for the week or ultimately high points for the season. It'd be the wrong move.

 
Of course you pick up Prater. Just don't be a total DB and pick him up just to drop him 30 seconds later. At least keep him until the end of the game. :D

 
'Daywalker said:
So he had entered a starting lineup. Last minute he adds a pk and drops a pk giving him only one on his roster. Guy probably just assumed that would become his starter. Sucks no one, commish, pointed out his miscue.Now you want to further screw him.You sound like a piece of work. :thumbdown: Get lost with this junk.
I guess we know who forgot to add a kicker to his lineup
 
'shadyridr said:
no way Id put Akers into his lineup. What if Akers put up a 0? Would you put him into his lineup then? Then hed complain and say he still had time to pick up Prater
Yes. His obvious intention was to start Akers. The amount of points does not matter. Again, I only say this because it was framed in a previous post as a family/friend league.
 
'Oh Yes! said:
maybe send him an email:

hey mitch- how are YOU doing? i almost FORGOT i had the privilege TO PLAY you this week. i spilled A beer on my crotch today. heres the KICKER, i just shaved my "area" and it felt great.
:lmao:
 
'Dr. Octopus said:
'kardplayer said:
I'd put Akers in for him.He has no other kicker and he picked the guy up that morning - he obviously picked him up to start him. The "precedent" to treat each other fairly isn't a bad one to set.
I'd go with this. The guy's intent was pretty clear. He picked up Akers to play him. The "precedent" is not as damning as you make it out to be.
I'd submit that allowing the commish to take control of other teams any time he thinks he knows another owners intent is a far, far worse precendent to set.
 
Pick up Prater. It will teach him to pay attention.

Or, if you're a progressive, give Aker enough points so that you and he tie. Everybody wins!

 
'rick6668 said:
So my opponent this week had Dan Carpenter - Mia as his kicker, but dropped him for Akers on Sunday Morning. Problem is, he left his kicker position empty. Most of the rest of his roster blew up having Tolbert, Ray Rice and Stafford.I am losing 150 - 167, he has no players left and I have Moreno and Patriots Def.Matt Prater is available and plays tonight. My opponent could pick him up and play him. All the other kickers still to play tonight are taken or on Waivers (Carpenter cause he was dropped). Do I pick up Prater so he has no K this week or let it go? We have deep benches and I'd end up dropping Aaron Hernandez TE-NE as my backup TE.Thoughts...ETA - I'm the commish in this league.
There's nothing wrong with taking the kicker in that situation. It's really about whether or not you want to drop Hernandez. I probably wouldnt want to drop him, but who knows what your rosters are like. Either way you should play to win. There are only about 13 games in the fantasy season; every one is a big deal.
 

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