I could see back-end top 10. It doesn’t take a whole lot for a guy to be a top 8-10 TE any given season. 650 yards and 6-7 tds?
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TE Mason Taylor, NYJ (1 Viewer)
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I think he’s easily going to be the #2 option.Add that he is lower on the pecking order (not primary read / not second/ not likely 3rd ) ...I’d start with bad offense and bad QB.
top 5 isn't typically an insane number by any means... but rookie TEs don't typically sniff it regardless.
but hey, there's always a chancewhy can't it be him?
And I do think he can finish top 5 overall. Would not predict it but very possible. I do predict he’ll be top 10.
If anyone had said these things about Laporta it would have sounded nutty. But I think they have a similar play style and are connected by branches of the same coaching tree. Some things different of course but that’s a good start on a team with horrendous passing game options after Garrett and a QB who has shown high efficiency throwing to TE’s in his past.
I like him. And after really digging into him the past few weeks, I think I like him a lot.I think he’s easily going to be the #2 option.Add that he is lower on the pecking order (not primary read / not second/ not likely 3rd ) ...I’d start with bad offense and bad QB.
top 5 isn't typically an insane number by any means... but rookie TEs don't typically sniff it regardless.
but hey, there's always a chance
And I do think he can finish top 5 overall. Would not predict it but very possible. I do predict he’ll be top 10.
If anyone had said these things about Laporta it would have sounded nutty. But I think they have a similar play style and are connected by branches of the same coaching tree. Some things different of course but that’s a good start on a team with horrendous passing game options after Garrett and a QB who has shown high efficiency throwing to TE’s in his past.
I have 3.01 in a 1.5 TE Premium and I’m hoping he’ll make it to me there.
Good luck, it happened in some leagues I was not in but in my 7 TEP leagues the farthest he made it was 2.11 and I think he’s gained a little more hype since.I like him. And after really digging into him the past few weeks, I think I like him a lot.I think he’s easily going to be the #2 option.Add that he is lower on the pecking order (not primary read / not second/ not likely 3rd ) ...I’d start with bad offense and bad QB.
top 5 isn't typically an insane number by any means... but rookie TEs don't typically sniff it regardless.
but hey, there's always a chance
And I do think he can finish top 5 overall. Would not predict it but very possible. I do predict he’ll be top 10.
If anyone had said these things about Laporta it would have sounded nutty. But I think they have a similar play style and are connected by branches of the same coaching tree. Some things different of course but that’s a good start on a team with horrendous passing game options after Garrett and a QB who has shown high efficiency throwing to TE’s in his past.
I have 3.01 in a 1.5 TE Premium and I’m hoping he’ll make it to me there.
These are NOT SF leagues so maybe that will help.
I like Arroyo and Ferguson a lot as well but raw and/or opportunity keep me from viewing them as viable starting lineups options next year in a way I do Taylor. Long term not really any difference, just like Taylor so much because I expect immediate use and also possible massive rise in his trade value. Which I know is rare to be thinking of a rookie TE in those terms but if he does what I think he will do as young 21 year old in TEP his value will spike…..and it might be wise to cash in.
Birdie048
Footballguy
I like Mason ... I was strongly considering him at 2.09 but he went 2.04 to my surprise. I was so disappointed...
I just don't see the NYJ offense not involving the RB's in receiving schemes lowering Mason Taylor's target slice of the pie.
Of course GW should be fed often, but Justin Fields will be a different QB pattern.
Hard to predict his target share.
RB's Breece Hall & Braelon Allen had > 100 targets (17%)
Garrett get another 160 targets this year (26%)
Whoever wins WR2 (my $ is Josh Reynolds over Allen Lazard) will see about 80 targets (13%).
Now, Tyler Conklin did get >70 targets but only 4 games with more than 6 targets in 17 games is not Top 5 worthy.
Can we estimate 50 targets for the Rookie TE from LSU?
Good article from PFF
They estimate 15% Target share ...
I just don't see the NYJ offense not involving the RB's in receiving schemes lowering Mason Taylor's target slice of the pie.
Of course GW should be fed often, but Justin Fields will be a different QB pattern.
Hard to predict his target share.
RB's Breece Hall & Braelon Allen had > 100 targets (17%)
Garrett get another 160 targets this year (26%)
Whoever wins WR2 (my $ is Josh Reynolds over Allen Lazard) will see about 80 targets (13%).
Now, Tyler Conklin did get >70 targets but only 4 games with more than 6 targets in 17 games is not Top 5 worthy.
Can we estimate 50 targets for the Rookie TE from LSU?
Good article from PFF
They estimate 15% Target share ...
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Guessing his target share will be directly related to how well he's doing
I put it more in the 80-100 target range in a 17 game season, but more bullish on the higher number with the lower number more of what I consider the floor and I expect the efficiency to be really good.
If you take Fields last two seasons and prorate them out in games played with Kmet and Friermuth they would have both landed at 82 targets. This prorates 4.82 per game, TE17 on average. This is what I consider his floor zone.
If you look at Lions TE usage however under Ben Johnson, which I think it's ok to assume his protege will try and do similar things, that usage increased. In 19 games as passing game coordinator or OC Hockenson was at 6.63 targets a game. Rookie year Laporta was at 7.1, that dipped down to 5.1 last year but he had some health issues but that still puts him at 6.1 targets per game over duration of being in this system.
Now they won't pass as much as the Lions did but Taylor won't be dealing with that same kind of comp for targets either nor is the Breece and company rushing group nearly on par with Gibbs/Monty.
If you took every NFL teams #1 WR out I would strongly suggest the Jets trot out by far the worst receiving group in the NFL. Reynolds and Lazard would be battling to be most teams #4 or #5 WR, but I don't even think they make most rosters. In other words as bad as the #2 WR options were for Fields in Chicago and Pittsburgh, it's worse now.
Stat nugget for you: Per TruMedia, Fields ranks fifth among qualifying quarterbacks in percentage of targets to tight ends (24.7 percent) since 2021
Again I think he's the #2 option in the passing attack, a thought that's been echoed by some Jets beat writers. If I had to give one number for expected targets I'd double the 50 you provided, but again think low 80's is the floor.
steelcityman
Footballguy
He went 3.03 in my 1.5 TEP league, but that was a couple weeks ago, so IDK if his value/hype/ranking has gone up since then, maybe back end of RD2???I like him. And after really digging into him the past few weeks, I think I like him a lot.I think he’s easily going to be the #2 option.Add that he is lower on the pecking order (not primary read / not second/ not likely 3rd ) ...I’d start with bad offense and bad QB.
top 5 isn't typically an insane number by any means... but rookie TEs don't typically sniff it regardless.
but hey, there's always a chance
And I do think he can finish top 5 overall. Would not predict it but very possible. I do predict he’ll be top 10.
If anyone had said these things about Laporta it would have sounded nutty. But I think they have a similar play style and are connected by branches of the same coaching tree. Some things different of course but that’s a good start on a team with horrendous passing game options after Garrett and a QB who has shown high efficiency throwing to TE’s in his past.
I have 3.01 in a 1.5 TE Premium and I’m hoping he’ll make it to me there.
Wigglytuff's Gruff
Footballguy
He could be a top 5-10 tight end next season.
He could also be a 5-10 catches in total tight end next season.
That is the way of the rookie tight end.
He could also be a 5-10 catches in total tight end next season.
That is the way of the rookie tight end.
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