TE Mason Taylor, NYJ (1 Viewer)

[TampaMike19]

Could be ok with Tyrod but this team is a disaster

 

[Houston turmOiler]

The problem with Tyrod is that he usually only lasts a game or two before he gets injured... then you're right back at square one

 

[LawFitz]

Huh. Fields benched perhaps after another atrocious outing. Are we, especially Fields #1 fan @Hot Sauce Guy still going to stand on the point that Fields is not only not awful for position players, but is somehow good news for Taylor as his QB? Or has time an good sense reached the point that people can admit they were wrong. @barackdhouse what do you think? You ended up getting him in the SP Only FBG Bowl league, so I imagine you've watched closely. Was Fields good for his production?

I've been wrong about many things, so I know there's no shame in apologizing when you are.

Count me with them. I have been a Fieldstan since day 0. I still would like to see him with a decent OC, before I completely give up on him, but yeah, no buenos.

 

[Instinctive]

Huh. Fields benched perhaps after another atrocious outing. Are we, especially Fields #1 fan @Hot Sauce Guy still going to stand on the point that Fields is not only not awful for position players, but is somehow good news for Taylor as his QB? Or has time an good sense reached the point that people can admit they were wrong. @barackdhouse what do you think? You ended up getting him in the SP Only FBG Bowl league, so I imagine you've watched closely. Was Fields good for his production?

I've been wrong about many things, so I know there's no shame in apologizing when you are.

Count me with them. I have been a Fieldstan since day 0. I still would like to see him with a decent OC, before I completely give up on him, but yeah, no buenos.

So the stance is nah, everything this season indicates the exact opposite but I just feel like maybe he could have been good still?

 

[joey]

Huh. Fields benched perhaps after another atrocious outing. Are we, especially Fields #1 fan @Hot Sauce Guy still going to stand on the point that Fields is not only not awful for position players, but is somehow good news for Taylor as his QB? Or has time an good sense reached the point that people can admit they were wrong. @barackdhouse what do you think? You ended up getting him in the SP Only FBG Bowl league, so I imagine you've watched closely. Was Fields good for his production?

I've been wrong about many things, so I know there's no shame in apologizing when you are.

Count me with them. I have been a Fieldstan since day 0. I still would like to see him with a decent OC, before I completely give up on him, but yeah, no buenos.

So the stance is nah, everything this season indicates the exact opposite but I just feel like maybe he could have been good still?

I’m in the “he looks like a good TE and situations change and i roster him in dynasty so I’m not giving up on him after 7 games” camp.

 

[Big Nate]

Huh. Fields benched perhaps after another atrocious outing. Are we, especially Fields #1 fan @Hot Sauce Guy still going to stand on the point that Fields is not only not awful for position players, but is somehow good news for Taylor as his QB? Or has time an good sense reached the point that people can admit they were wrong. @barackdhouse what do you think? You ended up getting him in the SP Only FBG Bowl league, so I imagine you've watched closely. Was Fields good for his production?

I've been wrong about many things, so I know there's no shame in apologizing when you are.

Count me with them. I have been a Fieldstan since day 0. I still would like to see him with a decent OC, before I completely give up on him, but yeah, no buenos.

So the stance is nah, everything this season indicates the exact opposite but I just feel like maybe he could have been good still?

I’m in the “he looks like a good TE and situations change and i roster him in dynasty so I’m not giving up on him after 7 games” camp.

The crazy thing is - everyone wants instant wins and if they don't produce some instantly say "he sucks".

The guy is a rookie who will likely be a very good TE eventually. It might even take more than 1 or 2 years for him to be consistent. He will get better each game and each year he plays. Just need realistic expectations.

 

[barackdhouse]

Huh. Fields benched perhaps after another atrocious outing. Are we, especially Fields #1 fan @Hot Sauce Guy still going to stand on the point that Fields is not only not awful for position players, but is somehow good news for Taylor as his QB? Or has time an good sense reached the point that people can admit they were wrong. @barackdhouse what do you think? You ended up getting him in the SP Only FBG Bowl league, so I imagine you've watched closely. Was Fields good for his production?

I've been wrong about many things, so I know there's no shame in apologizing when you are.

I don't care for your strawman ********. Don't ever tag me again.

 

[barackdhouse]

I benched Fields for Flacco *******

 

[Instinctive]

Huh. Fields benched perhaps after another atrocious outing. Are we, especially Fields #1 fan @Hot Sauce Guy still going to stand on the point that Fields is not only not awful for position players, but is somehow good news for Taylor as his QB? Or has time an good sense reached the point that people can admit they were wrong. @barackdhouse what do you think? You ended up getting him in the SP Only FBG Bowl league, so I imagine you've watched closely. Was Fields good for his production?

I've been wrong about many things, so I know there's no shame in apologizing when you are.

Count me with them. I have been a Fieldstan since day 0. I still would like to see him with a decent OC, before I completely give up on him, but yeah, no buenos.

So the stance is nah, everything this season indicates the exact opposite but I just feel like maybe he could have been good still?

I’m in the “he looks like a good TE and situations change and i roster him in dynasty so I’m not giving up on him after 7 games” camp.

The crazy thing is - everyone wants instant wins and if they don't produce some instantly say "he sucks".

The guy is a rookie who will likely be a very good TE eventually. It might even take more than 1 or 2 years for him to be consistent. He will get better each game and each year he plays. Just need realistic expectations.

I am and always have been in total agreement with this.

Just wanted to see if anyone has reevaluated the statement that Fields was good for him.

If anything, the below would indicate no desire whatsoever to reexamine that prior lol.

 

[Insein]

I paid a premium for Taylor in redraft. This week I'm seeing if I can drop him for Gadsden (who I had on my bench until 2 weeks ago).

 

[Big Nate]

I paid a premium for Taylor in redraft. This week I'm seeing if I can drop him for Gadsden (who I had on my bench until 2 weeks ago).

And then Gadsden will bust for the next few weeks. It is how it goes with TE. Kittle came back and got a zero. I'm not saying don't get the hot hand in Gadsden but that is how it goes sometimes with fantasy.

 

[Insein]

I paid a premium for Taylor in redraft. This week I'm seeing if I can drop him for Gadsden (who I had on my bench until 2 weeks ago).

And then Gadsden will bust for the next few weeks. It is how it goes with TE. Kittle came back and got a zero. I'm not saying don't get the hot hand in Gadsden but that is how it goes sometimes with fantasy.

Yep. How the year has gone.

 

[Instinctive]

I paid a premium for Taylor in redraft. This week I'm seeing if I can drop him for Gadsden (who I had on my bench until 2 weeks ago).

And then Gadsden will bust for the next few weeks. It is how it goes with TE. Kittle came back and got a zero. I'm not saying don't get the hot hand in Gadsden but that is how it goes sometimes with fantasy.

Yep. How the year has gone.

I think it's more likely Taylor's talent comes through in the long term, but his QB situation is a total disaster. That was fairly easy to see coming into the year (see pages of discussion lol)

Gadsden is a tougher case. Because there are WRs there...but if he's Herbert's favorite target, he could really stick. Idk what to do with him because my brain still says "but McConkey!" and yet...either way Gadsden looks like he could be the #2 or even #1 target there for a while to come.

Dynasty-wise...would you mov Gadsden over Taylor at this point?

 

[Insein]

Mason Taylor did not practice Thursday due to a quad injury.

https://x.com/MikeGarafolo/status/1981452736542408769?t=ZYAFZsh4da0KC1h-zGjZZQ&s=19

 

[Insein]

This really sucks because matchup wise, this is the best team for a TE to go against. He will not have a better matchup all year.

 

[BladeRunner]

This really sucks because matchup wise, this is the best team for a TE to go against. He will not have a better matchup all year.

Cool. Now I can start Brock Bowers.

Oh, wait...

 

[menobrown]

Sounds like he's going to play, just got to hope it does not limit his performance or snaps, and that Tyrod is the starter.

 

[JohnnyU]

I’m not sure Wilson being out is good for Taylor.

He got plenty of targets the previous 2 weeks. Sure yesterday was awful but if that’s the baseline not much of a pie to pick up from -10 net passing yards.


I think I’d prefer he was the #2 with the opposing D focused on Wilson but guess that’s not relevant to reality of the situation until probably week 10.

Isn’t Taylor questionable? I wonder if he sits too.

 

[menobrown]

I’m not sure Wilson being out is good for Taylor.

He got plenty of targets the previous 2 weeks. Sure yesterday was awful but if that’s the baseline not much of a pie to pick up from -10 net passing yards.


I think I’d prefer he was the #2 with the opposing D focused on Wilson but guess that’s not relevant to reality of the situation until probably week 10.

Isn’t Taylor questionable? I wonder if he sits too.

Glenn said he was optimistic he'd play.

ETA-did you mean Tyrod? I think he's starting but is officially questionable as well.

 

[JohnnyU]

I’m not sure Wilson being out is good for Taylor.

He got plenty of targets the previous 2 weeks. Sure yesterday was awful but if that’s the baseline not much of a pie to pick up from -10 net passing yards.


I think I’d prefer he was the #2 with the opposing D focused on Wilson but guess that’s not relevant to reality of the situation until probably week 10.

Isn’t Taylor questionable? I wonder if he sits too.

Glenn said he was optimistic he'd play.

ETA-did you mean Tyrod? I think he's starting but is officially questionable as well.

I was talking about Mason Taylor

 

[rockaction]

Lordy Lordy Lordy. Our big guy can block. Man, bet on genetics, huh?

Matt Waldman
@MattWaldman 9h

Mason Taylor is a complete TE. Watch this push off the right side that opens a big gain for Breece “I’ll come back and kill you (if you trade me)” HallTaylor combo block into second level, dropping the LB

https://x.com/MattWaldman/status/1982648643187507551

 

[Instinctive]

Lordy Lordy Lordy. Our big guy can block. Man, bet on genetics, huh?

Matt Waldman
@MattWaldman 9h

Mason Taylor is a complete TE. Watch this push off the right side that opens a big gain for Breece “I’ll come back and kill you (if you trade me)” HallTaylor combo block into second level, dropping the LB

https://x.com/MattWaldman/status/1982648643187507551

Plus a TD!

 

[Insein]

Lordy Lordy Lordy. Our big guy can block. Man, bet on genetics, huh?

Matt Waldman
@MattWaldman 9h

Mason Taylor is a complete TE. Watch this push off the right side that opens a big gain for Breece “I’ll come back and kill you (if you trade me)” HallTaylor combo block into second level, dropping the LB

https://x.com/MattWaldman/status/1982648643187507551

Man in my pancake premium league, Taylor is a huge asset.

 

[Instinctive]

Lordy Lordy Lordy. Our big guy can block. Man, bet on genetics, huh?

Matt Waldman
@MattWaldman 9h

Mason Taylor is a complete TE. Watch this push off the right side that opens a big gain for Breece “I’ll come back and kill you (if you trade me)” HallTaylor combo block into second level, dropping the LB

https://x.com/MattWaldman/status/1982648643187507551

Plus a TD!

Maybe Breece Hall should be the QB?

 

[rockaction]

Lordy Lordy Lordy. Our big guy can block. Man, bet on genetics, huh?

Matt Waldman
@MattWaldman 9h

Mason Taylor is a complete TE. Watch this push off the right side that opens a big gain for Breece “I’ll come back and kill you (if you trade me)” HallTaylor combo block into second level, dropping the LB

https://x.com/MattWaldman/status/1982648643187507551

Man in my pancake premium league, Taylor is a huge asset.

Uh, son. No block, no rock.

 

[Kiddnets]

Kid looks legit - Jets havent had a solid TE for decades. Looking fwd to watching him improve.

 

[sheerterror]

Lordy Lordy Lordy. Our big guy can block. Man, bet on genetics, huh?

Matt Waldman
@MattWaldman 9h

Mason Taylor is a complete TE. Watch this push off the right side that opens a big gain for Breece “I’ll come back and kill you (if you trade me)” HallTaylor combo block into second level, dropping the LB

https://x.com/MattWaldman/status/1982648643187507551

Man in my pancake premium league, Taylor is a huge asset.

Sell high

 

[sushinsky4tsar]

Anyone else remember when the 2025 fantasy scouting report on rookie TEs was Warren or Loveland, don't even bother with the rest?

 

[menobrown]

Anyone else remember when the 2025 fantasy scouting report on rookie TEs was Warren or Loveland, don't even bother with the rest?

Actually no. Not to argue for the sake of it, just having a discussion, but I thought this was properly billed as a big 2 in a deep and loaded TE class.

One of the big 2 of course has kinda sucked, but based on NFL draft capital the initial consensus seemed right.

I know I started drafting in TEP BB leagues in January and I left my first draft with Taylor and Arroyo. Which I think was rookie TE’s 4 and 5 of that draft.

 

[rockaction]

Anyone else remember when the 2025 fantasy scouting report on rookie TEs was Warren or Loveland, don't even bother with the rest?

Are you talking a specific analyst or consensus? I took Oronde II at 6.12 in my rookie draft. It was one of two picks I had. I'm not trying to be a jerk, either, and I think they were maybe a little too optimistic, but this was an excellent RB class and very good TE class as I understood it for quite some time.

I thought you meant a specific guy and I was going to LOL with you, but now I'm not sure.

 

[menobrown]

One other note on Taylor. Unless the Jets are playing funny business with their injury reporting this guy is an amazing fast healer and/or tough.

Only missed a few days of training camp for what was reported as a high ankle sprain. Then misses the day of practice this week with a quad and Rap reports it’s not severe and he may even play this week, which indicates to me it was an issue for it to “maybe” keep him out.

I think he ended up playing his normal snaps, which is most downs.

Love to see it.

 

[sushinsky4tsar]

Anyone else remember when the 2025 fantasy scouting report on rookie TEs was Warren or Loveland, don't even bother with the rest?

Are you talking a specific analyst or consensus? I took Oronde II at 6.12 in my rookie draft. It was one of two picks I had. I'm not trying to be a jerk, either, and I think they were maybe a little too optimistic, but this was an excellent RB class and very good TE class as I understood it for quite some time.

I thought you meant a specific guy and I was going to LOL with you, but now I'm not sure.

To be fair, I probably injected a lot of my own team context that already had depth in a non-TEP league, 5 round rookie/free agent draft. The take I was getting very early in the process was the two bigs, and a bunch of guys to keep an eye out for, but not necessarily must-draft talent. I'm probably harkening back to a time when Luke Lachey was one of those guys. It definitely evolved to a point where I was definitely interested in Arroyo, Taylor, Fannin in our August draft, but didn't really have picks in that territory to get them.

Regardless, the takeaway relevant to my league worked out. I was able to pluck Fannin off the undrafted waiver wire in August and Taylor after he was dropped a couple weeks in. I wish I had added Gadsden to the mix as well. I had to make a decision on him vs Strange vs Taylor early in the year and went Taylor. Didn't really want to add a 4th TE, but now I wish I went for 5.

 

[rockaction]

Anyone else remember when the 2025 fantasy scouting report on rookie TEs was Warren or Loveland, don't even bother with the rest?

Are you talking a specific analyst or consensus? I took Oronde II at 6.12 in my rookie draft. It was one of two picks I had. I'm not trying to be a jerk, either, and I think they were maybe a little too optimistic, but this was an excellent RB class and very good TE class as I understood it for quite some time.

I thought you meant a specific guy and I was going to LOL with you, but now I'm not sure.

To be fair, I probably injected a lot of my own team context that already had depth in a non-TEP league, 5 round rookie/free agent draft. The take I was getting very early in the process was the two bigs, and a bunch of guys to keep an eye out for, but not necessarily must-draft talent. I'm probably harkening back to a time when Luke Lachey was one of those guys. It definitely evolved to a point where I was definitely interested in Arroyo, Taylor, Fannin in our August draft, but didn't really have picks in that territory to get them.

Regardless, the takeaway relevant to my league worked out. I was able to pluck Fannin off the undrafted waiver wire in August and Taylor after he was dropped a couple weeks in. I wish I had added Gadsden to the mix as well. I had to make a decision on him vs Strange vs Taylor early in the year and went Taylor. Didn't really want to add a 4th TE, but now I wish went for 5.

We're TE Premium and sort of new with it but the past three years or so it's been a different and very attentive evaluation of the TEs because our league has been a long-time 1RB 1TE 1RB/TE Flex position. So you can imagine.