barackdhouse
Footballguy
I'm highly invested in him so wheels up rooting for him with you.
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barackdhouse
Footballguy
the only positive I can come up with is that supposedly OL prefer to run block and supposedly it is 'easier' than pass blocking and I use that word extremely loose because obv it isn't easy... but losing a stud OL is perhaps a bigger ding to the passing game than to the running game. and if their success is predicated on establishing the run, then maybe just maybe the passing game doesn't need to take as big of a hit. wishful thinking I know but yeah there is pretty much no way it makes their offense better. everything is still going to hinge on Fields finding his mojo.
Terpman22
Footballguy
Be honest, how many CIA shows have you been watching lately using this term haha
barackdhouse
Footballguy
umm 0?
I watched Lansky a couple days ago, he was like THE mobster of the 20th century and brokered the deal between the NY/NJ mob and the Office of Naval Intelligence that became OSS that became the CIA. The deal was to protect our harbors in that area from Nazis and well... nobody was better positioned to help than the mob.
The CIA in the 50s was Nixon's pet project as VP and it all intersected with the mob in Havana (which was all brokered by Lansky) and I can go on and on but no haven't watched any specifically CIA shows lately. And don't remember the last time I heard 'wheels up'. Maybe in Apollo 13 when Ken Mattingly is like nah that wasn't good enough let's run the sim again and Jim Lovell is like ok but we're wheels up at 6am.
You asked you shall receive. And if you wanna play the Kevin Bacon game I've already won.
Terpman22
Footballguy
This Mason Taylor I can't help but derail itumm 0?
I watched Lansky a couple days ago, he was like THE mobster of the 20th century and brokered the deal between the NY/NJ mob and the Office of Naval Intelligence that became OSS that became the CIA. The deal was to protect our harbors in that area from Nazis and well... nobody was better positioned to help than the mob.
The CIA in the 50s was Nixon's pet project as VP and it all intersected with the mob in Havana (which was all brokered by Lansky) and I can go on and on but no haven't watched any specifically CIA shows lately. And don't remember the last time I heard 'wheels up'. Maybe in Apollo 13 when Ken Mattingly is like nah that wasn't good enough let's run the sim again and Jim Lovell is like ok but we're wheels up at 6am.
You asked you shall receive. And if you wanna play the Kevin Bacon game I've already won.
LOL
The term "Wheels Up" never really heard until I watched
Lioness, The Agency, now...The Recruit...all CIA and for the most part they are the only ones that use it
Little bit of Reacher too
But back to Mason Taylor - I agree with anyone that says he is gonna be the #2 option in this
B/c Justin Fields just makes TE's better!!
Criminal Minds was FBI BAU division if you somehow missed that show. Was pretty solid entertainment and had heavy usage of wheels up.This Mason Taylor I can't help but derail itumm 0?
I watched Lansky a couple days ago, he was like THE mobster of the 20th century and brokered the deal between the NY/NJ mob and the Office of Naval Intelligence that became OSS that became the CIA. The deal was to protect our harbors in that area from Nazis and well... nobody was better positioned to help than the mob.
The CIA in the 50s was Nixon's pet project as VP and it all intersected with the mob in Havana (which was all brokered by Lansky) and I can go on and on but no haven't watched any specifically CIA shows lately. And don't remember the last time I heard 'wheels up'. Maybe in Apollo 13 when Ken Mattingly is like nah that wasn't good enough let's run the sim again and Jim Lovell is like ok but we're wheels up at 6am.
You asked you shall receive. And if you wanna play the Kevin Bacon game I've already won.
LOL
The term "Wheels Up" never really heard until I watched
Lioness, The Agency, now...The Recruit...all CIA and for the most part they are the only ones that use it
Little bit of Reacher too
But back to Mason Taylor - I agree with anyone that says he is gonna be the #2 option in this
B/c Justin Fields just makes TE's better!!
barackdhouse
Footballguy
no never watched it.Criminal Minds was FBI BAU division if you somehow missed that show. Was pretty solid entertainment and had heavy usage of wheels up.This Mason Taylor I can't help but derail itumm 0?
I watched Lansky a couple days ago, he was like THE mobster of the 20th century and brokered the deal between the NY/NJ mob and the Office of Naval Intelligence that became OSS that became the CIA. The deal was to protect our harbors in that area from Nazis and well... nobody was better positioned to help than the mob.
The CIA in the 50s was Nixon's pet project as VP and it all intersected with the mob in Havana (which was all brokered by Lansky) and I can go on and on but no haven't watched any specifically CIA shows lately. And don't remember the last time I heard 'wheels up'. Maybe in Apollo 13 when Ken Mattingly is like nah that wasn't good enough let's run the sim again and Jim Lovell is like ok but we're wheels up at 6am.
You asked you shall receive. And if you wanna play the Kevin Bacon game I've already won.
LOL
The term "Wheels Up" never really heard until I watched
Lioness, The Agency, now...The Recruit...all CIA and for the most part they are the only ones that use it
Little bit of Reacher too
But back to Mason Taylor - I agree with anyone that says he is gonna be the #2 option in this
B/c Justin Fields just makes TE's better!!
I hope you're right. He's my TE2 in my 12 team 2 TE league.
sushinsky4tsar
Footballguy
Leaned hard into zero TE and he currently sits all alone in my starting TE slot. My theory is that I'll be in the best position to act on the week 1 waiver free agent that nobody is willing to buy into after one week.
Is Mason a fair enough desperation play to get some targets in week 1? Schultz, Okonkwo, Geskicki, Theo Johnson, Juwan Johnson, Higbee, and Sanders are all projected for more points. I think I might like a few of those guys to slightly outproduce Taylor if I'm looking for disappointing TE production. Taylor offer enough out-of-the-gates ceiling to see what happens in week 1, or do I need to pivot?
Instinctive
Footballguy
I have him at a 19% target share. That's second on the team. 87 targets for 57/610/3. That would be TE24 for my model.
Terpman22
Footballguy
Would be a nice rookie season!
Instinctive
Footballguy
And nearly useless in fantasy
Terpman22
Footballguy
Like 99% of the rookie tight ends before him but…he has a chance for some upside considering the set up
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Any updated thoughts on this guy? Early I know, but has the feeling of a typical rookie TE year.
Kiddnets
Footballguy
so far nothing jumps out but keep in mind he had a bad ankle sprain in early August he still may be having issues with along with rookie TE syndrome - he does have a path as there are literally no other serious options for receptions than GW and Breece so if you could be patient he has upside.
Yes.
Negative update first. He will likely miss practice today for the same ankle that he miraculously recovered from so quickly in training camp. Not ideal but Glenn said they were managing it, did not get a sense he'd be missing this week but hate to see him dealing with anyhing.
Past that. BUY, BUY, BUY!!!!!
Forget the stat line of his first game.
We are seeing a ton of TE's, even kings like Bowers, getting pulled off the field for a large chunks of snaps in favor of better blocking Tight ends. In Taylor's first game he was as close to an everydown player at TE as exists in the league. In fact at halftime of their last game Taylor and McBride were the only two TE's in the league who had played every snap.
His route participation was 84%, one of the highest in the league for TE's as well as actual playing time which was 87.5%.
Again, a low stat line when the Jets offense only ran 25 pass routes but it will come, sooner then later, provided his ankle is fine.
To me he's like an opposite or reverse Dalton Kincaid who is a sub 50% snap guy, in the 60% route range but had a good game. I trust Taylor more for ROS then I do Kincaid. He's out there every snap and not as a blocker, the ball will eventually come his way. Just hope the ankle does not derail him.
sushinsky4tsar
Footballguy
He was dumped after week 1 in my non-TEP dynasty. T Ferguson was already available. I'm stacked deep with good (not great) options. I really don't want to roster 5 TEs unless there's real potential to ball out in year one.
That said, he should clearly be rostered in 24x12. Cleaning up after my leaguemate's messes really gets old sometimes.
That said, he should clearly be rostered in 24x12. Cleaning up after my leaguemate's messes really gets old sometimes.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
was dropped in several leagues
Was hoping to see more but just one out of 8 redraft leagues I don't have him was he cut.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
was dropped in just 2/9 of my FFPC teams I guess I must have been thinking of a couple non-TEP leagues.
warpig33
Footballguy
So according to this, he's getting plenty of snaps...Fields just isn't throwing it to him. Guess we all saw this coming.
Yep and this is why I am holding on despite almost no production. I don't know if he's not getting open but I can't quit a TE getting this many pass catching routes in TEP but this is the emptiest calorie route running I think I've ever seen.
Tyrod threw him a pass. Just one. But hoping he'll look for him more this next week or two and Fields will learn something.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Huh. I know he’s battled an ankle injury since training camp, but using route % with Fields is interesting framing. I’m curious, of Fields 3 completions for 27 yards last week, what sort of FF bonanza were you expecting?
FWIW, I still like Taylor for dynasty. I dropped him in redraft last week.
warpig33
Footballguy
This is what we feared before the season started. Fields not throwing to the TE. Not saying it's Mason's fault. Taylor owners need to hope Fields changes mentality, or they get a different QB. Will be interesting to see what Tyrod brings.Huh. I know he’s battled an ankle injury since training camp, but using route % with Fields is interesting framing. I’m curious, of Fields 3 completions for 27 yards last week, what sort of FF bonanza were you expecting?
FWIW, I still like Taylor for dynasty. I dropped him in redraft last week.
Instinctive
Footballguy
Fields doesn't love targeting the TE really. Maybe Taylor will (Tyrod I mean)
Instinctive
Footballguy
Guess we all saw it coming???? Let's give credit where due lolThis is what we feared before the season started. Fields not throwing to the TE. Not saying it's Mason's fault. Taylor owners need to hope Fields changes mentality, or they get a different QB. Will be interesting to see what Tyrod brings.Huh. I know he’s battled an ankle injury since training camp, but using route % with Fields is interesting framing. I’m curious, of Fields 3 completions for 27 yards last week, what sort of FF bonanza were you expecting?
FWIW, I still like Taylor for dynasty. I dropped him in redraft last week.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Again, he completed 3 passes in the last game. That’s not what people feared in the off-season. lol cmonThis is what we feared before the season started. Fields not throwing to the TE. Not saying it's Mason's fault. Taylor owners need to hope Fields changes mentality, or they get a different QB. Will be interesting to see what Tyrod brings.Huh. I know he’s battled an ankle injury since training camp, but using route % with Fields is interesting framing. I’m curious, of Fields 3 completions for 27 yards last week, what sort of FF bonanza were you expecting?
FWIW, I still like Taylor for dynasty. I dropped him in redraft last week.
Instinctive
Footballguy
I mean, it kind of is. Some peoples stance was definitely that Fields is terrible and there would be some absolutely brutal passing statlines because the offense wouldn't have many opportunities and because he takes off a lot.Again, he completed 3 passes in the last game. That’s not what people feared in the off-season. lol cmonThis is what we feared before the season started. Fields not throwing to the TE. Not saying it's Mason's fault. Taylor owners need to hope Fields changes mentality, or they get a different QB. Will be interesting to see what Tyrod brings.Huh. I know he’s battled an ankle injury since training camp, but using route % with Fields is interesting framing. I’m curious, of Fields 3 completions for 27 yards last week, what sort of FF bonanza were you expecting?
FWIW, I still like Taylor for dynasty. I dropped him in redraft last week.
It's been two weeks and he's hurt. Early for anyone to claim victory on anything.
Zack Rosenblatt
@ZackBlatt
Aaron Glenn the Jets have to do what they can to get Mason Taylor more involved. "He's a guy we all recognize needs to get the ball."
sushinsky4tsar
Footballguy
5-65 yds, 7 targets (1 for Ruckert - 23 yds)
13 targets in the last two. He was dropped early in 12x24 non-TEP dynasty. Even though I'm sure some of this is playing from behind, probably my last chance to hop aboard given the draft capital, bloodlines, and camp buzz. Is anybody out on him as a potential dynasty top-5?
If he's JAG, low TE1 upside, I wouldn't bother. But I think he probably needs to be rostered if he isn't already. Probably needs another prove-it week for most re-draft leagues.
https://youtu.be/pFiC6V9ohZ4?feature=shared
13 targets in the last two. He was dropped early in 12x24 non-TEP dynasty. Even though I'm sure some of this is playing from behind, probably my last chance to hop aboard given the draft capital, bloodlines, and camp buzz. Is anybody out on him as a potential dynasty top-5?
If he's JAG, low TE1 upside, I wouldn't bother. But I think he probably needs to be rostered if he isn't already. Probably needs another prove-it week for most re-draft leagues.
https://youtu.be/pFiC6V9ohZ4?feature=shared
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King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Not sure he has elite tight end upside as he looks fairly pedestrian to my untrained eyes, but he should see a good amount of targets.
Ridgeback
Footballguy
Both sure wouldn't be bad. Hopefully more like Ertz.
sushinsky4tsar
Footballguy
Stashing TEs can be a tough business, so I try to avoid the potential for clogging up a roster spot for years if there's not a special talent behind it. Three-star recruit out of H.S., so maybe that along with the family name supports it. However, there might still be an opportunity to profit here. Pretty uninspiring receiving options after Wilson. If 6.5 targets per game is closer to a trend than a mirage, the 2nd round capital on a 21-year old that's playable in his rookie year will be enough to send his stock soaring. If he cracks top-10 in the dynasty rankings (not that far away in KTC), he has potential to be that golden throw-in to a trade that gets a very favorable trade accepted.
No he's not
The Kerminator
Footballguy
Go on . . .
greenmountaingoat
Footballguy
Brock broke all the rules man. I think it’s a tough comparison. Warren could make a little noise but the odds are still pretty stacked.
He could easily be useful in 12 team leagues but isn’t likely to be a difference maker. If he gets on a TD streak though it could happen. Not likely but feasible IMO
He could easily be useful in 12 team leagues but isn’t likely to be a difference maker. If he gets on a TD streak though it could happen. Not likely but feasible IMO
sushinsky4tsar
Footballguy
To be fair, he is a pass catching first TE. Which is great for fantasy if that role is fully embraced and appreciated by the team.
Also to be fair, he statistically has been Brock Bowers weeks 2 through 4 of 2025. Just saying
Also to be fair, he statistically has been Brock Bowers weeks 2 through 4 of 2025. Just saying
rockaction
Footballguy
Nine targets and six catches for forty-five.
That's a bunch of 'em.
That's a bunch of 'em.
sushinsky4tsar
Footballguy
Two short receptions on the opening drive. Started racking them up in garbage time, including a nice grab on the 2-pt conversion.
Good news is that Fields moves the ball in garbage time and was looking for him. The script should be repeatable.
Good news is that Fields moves the ball in garbage time and was looking for him. The script should be repeatable.
The Kerminator
Footballguy
Nice. But I don't think is sustainable. The Jets aren't going to be behind big and forced to throw every game
rockaction
Footballguy
Dude, i read so many takes that eventually my eyes glaze over. I missed this the first time. Awesome.
The Frankman
Footballguy
Pietaster2
Footballguy
Picked this guy up as a fill-in for a Kraft bye and now I don’t want to drop him! When a WW pickup hits like this one, I suppose it’s a good problem to have.
But here’s the question: is Mason Taylor’s usage really creeping up to fantasy starter levels, or was this an example of how giving the Cowboys defense is to TEs?
But here’s the question: is Mason Taylor’s usage really creeping up to fantasy starter levels, or was this an example of how giving the Cowboys defense is to TEs?
Dez
Footballguy
When are the Jets winning though ?
