Dilemma - what would you do? (1 Viewer)

[Lash]

Hypothetical scenario (based upon a real life occurrence) ... one week left in fantasy regular season in a redraft league with no tanking rules since there is no reason to try and get a better draft slot

top five win-loss record make the playoffs and the last spot goes to the highest scoring team of the remaining seven teams...

You, TEAM D, are mathematically eliminated from making the playoffs via W-L record

You have the second highest point total among the remaining seven teams by a wide margin both above you and below (i.e. no one will catch you for second and you can't be the highest)

You play TEAM C, that is above you in points from the current non-playoff W-L teams

TEAM A and TEAM B play each other and are each ONE GAME ahead of TEAM C

recap:

TEAM A ... 7-5 ...1118 points

TEAM B ... 7-5 ... 1109 points

TEAM C ... 6-6 ... 1311 points

TEAM D ... 5-7 ... 1232 points

if you lose to TEAM C on purpose he will go to 7-6 and AUTOMATICALLY be in the playoffs on the points scored tiebreaker vs the LOSER of the TEAM A vs TEAM B game

AND ... you will AUTOMATICALLY be in the playoffs over the loser of the TEAM A vs TEAM B because you will win the points scored wild card spot

if you play to win and beat TEAM C you will have essentially knocked yourself out of the playoffs

To Tank or not to Tank, that is the question ... thought it might be interesting since it is not for a better draft pick

 

[Birdie048]

Field a marginal team to be competitive, but do not go all out.

 

[gianmarco]

I've brought this subject up before. The ultimate goal of the season is to win the championship. You win the championship by making the playoffs. To knock yourself out of the playoffs just to win a weekly game makes 0 sense to me and goes against what the weekly game is even for. As a result of this, it's a no-brainer to completely tank as long as the rules allow it.

 

[Bud]

You do what you need to do to make the playoffs.

 

[ratbast]

Change the rules so this doesn't happen.

 

[duaneok66]

Change the rules so this doesn't happen.

this. although it wouldn't be in time to affect this outcome.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

tanking should never ever be allowed. Thems the breaks.

 

[DoubleG]

Change the rules so this doesn't happen.

Any scoring/playoff system that creates your issue (i.e. it's better to lose to make the playoffs) is fundamentally flawed. That said, I agree with everyone else that has posted "whatever is needed to make the playoffs". Anyone that whines about you doing so should have scored more points during the regular season. The "no tanking" rule is to make sure one team doesn't "let" another team win - you would be tanking to make sure you do.

 

[renesauz]

Since this is a hypothetical, and the situation has not (apparently) occured just yet: bring it up to your league.

NOBODY should be in a position where tanking gets them in and winning doesn't.

 

[Loan Sharks]

Change the rules so this doesn't happen.

Any scoring/playoff system that creates your issue (i.e. it's better to lose to make the playoffs) is fundamentally flawed.

This is correct, the answer to your dilemma is to disband your rubbish league and join one that is run properly. That way you won't have to ask people on a message board what the right thing to do is since you have problems knowing what is good sportsmanship.

 

[dutch]

Change the rules so this doesn't happen.

Any scoring/playoff system that creates your issue (i.e. it's better to lose to make the playoffs) is fundamentally flawed.

This is correct, the answer to your dilemma is to disband your rubbish league and join one that is run properly. That way you won't have to ask people on a message board what the right thing to do is since you have problems knowing what is good sportsmanship.

Good sportsmanship entails putting your best foot forward in an attempt to win as much as possible and if the ultimate goal is to win the Championship then all regular season games are mere battles in the war. Do what you need to do to give your team the best opportunity win the championship, period.

 

[by_the_sea_wannabe]

Change the rules so this doesn't happen.

Any scoring/playoff system that creates your issue (i.e. it's better to lose to make the playoffs) is fundamentally flawed.

This is correct, the answer to your dilemma is to disband your rubbish league and join one that is run properly. That way you won't have to ask people on a message board what the right thing to do is since you have problems knowing what is good sportsmanship.

I don't know, I understand what the league is trying to do here. Certainly wouldn't call it rubbish.

 

[Lash]

Change the rules so this doesn't happen.

Any scoring/playoff system that creates your issue (i.e. it's better to lose to make the playoffs) is fundamentally flawed.

This is correct, the answer to your dilemma is to disband your rubbish league and join one that is run properly. That way you won't have to ask people on a message board what the right thing to do is since you have problems knowing what is good sportsmanship.

actually alot of very-well-respected leagues (HA, MOX, etc) utilize a "wildcard" of a top score making the final spotand your either self-righteous or trollish view (hard to tell) is being outvoted 43-1 as it stands nowI am none of the 4 teams above, but you go ahead and reach around and pat yourself on your own back for putting me in my place

 

[Insein]

To quote Han Solo: "Keep your distance, but don't look like you're keeping your distance."

In other words, don't say anything. Field a team of your best QB but mostly backups otherwise and let it play out. Hopefully no one notices.

Personally, I'd field all my backups and tell them to suck it. They should have different rules. Besides what specific wording does the "no tanking rule" imply? I'm sure there's a way around it.

 

[32 Counter Pass]

You do what you need to do to make the playoffs.

 

[Loan Sharks]

Change the rules so this doesn't happen.

Any scoring/playoff system that creates your issue (i.e. it's better to lose to make the playoffs) is fundamentally flawed.

This is correct, the answer to your dilemma is to disband your rubbish league and join one that is run properly. That way you won't have to ask people on a message board what the right thing to do is since you have problems knowing what is good sportsmanship.

actually alot of very-well-respected leagues (HA, MOX, etc) utilize a "wildcard" of a top score making the final spotand your either self-righteous or trollish view (hard to tell) is being outvoted 43-1 as it stands nowI am none of the 4 teams above, but you go ahead and reach around and pat yourself on your own back for putting me in my place

Really? I don't see the option to fix your broken league rules. Why does your league have match ups if they are meaningless? If you want to play in a total points league then do so. And as far as me being righteous about whatever decision you make, what are you talking about? You throw the game moron, its not like you are going to ruin the legitimacy of a league that doesn't let the teams with the best records into the playoffs.

 

[Loan Sharks]

Change the rules so this doesn't happen.

Any scoring/playoff system that creates your issue (i.e. it's better to lose to make the playoffs) is fundamentally flawed.

This is correct, the answer to your dilemma is to disband your rubbish league and join one that is run properly. That way you won't have to ask people on a message board what the right thing to do is since you have problems knowing what is good sportsmanship.

I don't know, I understand what the league is trying to do here. Certainly wouldn't call it rubbish.

Oh I understand these leagues exist and why they do. It's the crybaby rule. There is always the guy who has a "great" team who was unlucky and thinks he should be in the playoffs despite not having the playoff worthy record, this is a rule to soothe whiners and malcontents. No you say? Then why are there no total points leagues that kick out one high scoring team for the one non playoff team with the best record? Because it is not perceived as bad luck to not score points, but it is perceived as bad luck to score a lot of points inconsistently in spurts resulting in a poor record. In essence this league format penalizes consistent teams and creates situations in which taking a dive is a good thing to do. Which is rubbish.Oh and BTSW

 

[BespokeJort]

You don't tank to get a better draft pick. You don't tank to mess with seeding/get a preferable matchup. But you definitely don't knock yourself out of the playoffs.

If you want to keep head to head but reward scoring/remove some of the luck element I would highly encourage you to look at "victory points" scoring that mfl and possibly some other hosts have. 2 points for a win, 1 for a tie, 0 for a loss, in addition to 2 points for top 4 in scoring (12 team league), 1 for middle 4, 0 for bottom 4

 

[StrikeS2k]

You may be tanking a game but you're not tanking the year. In pro sports teams do this all the time, whether it be resting players at the end of the season or whatever.