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Dion Lewis (2 Viewers)

Thoughts on the NE running game this week vs. the 'Skins? 'Skins have been gashed on the ground for 587 yards in the last three games. Nice match-up on paper for Blount but Dion's receiving out of the backfield terrifies me, as a 'Skins fan. I guess Dion is an every week starter but this seems like a Blount type of game.

 
I dont think there will be a Blount type game in first halfs of any games this year. Lewis will get the majority of the snaps until the game is out of hand in most games this year. THats the way the team moves the ball is there short passing game.

 
I think the "Blount" type of game thing has been dispelled for the most part by this point.

Blount got a disproportionate amount of carries in the Indy game when Lewis was hurt. I think they will continue to use both to the best of their abilities. Lewis for the first 3/4ths of a game while splashing Blount in on occasion.

Lewis adds too much to the offense, but he isn't a hammer and some times thats exactly what they need. Think the Pats are gonna try and shut down the Skins run game and make Cousins beat them. I think that will lead to some extra possessions for the Pats which might accelerate the pace change towards Blount.

 
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I am very fortunate to have a nice stable of RBs. So for me, it comes down to D Lewis vs a WR for my flex position every week

How do you guys compare a RB (that catches passes) to a WR in ppr.

Is Lewis more of an auto start at RB or is he a sure thing at flex also.

 
I am very fortunate to have a nice stable of RBs. So for me, it comes down to D Lewis vs a WR for my flex position every week

How do you guys compare a RB (that catches passes) to a WR in ppr.

Is Lewis more of an auto start at RB or is he a sure thing at flex also.
Unless you've got enough top-18 WRs that you can fill your starting WR positions and still have one left over for your flex, Lewis is every bit as much of an auto-start at flex as he is at RB.

 
I am very fortunate to have a nice stable of RBs. So for me, it comes down to D Lewis vs a WR for my flex position every week

How do you guys compare a RB (that catches passes) to a WR in ppr.

Is Lewis more of an auto start at RB or is he a sure thing at flex also.
Unless you've got enough top-18 WRs that you can fill your starting WR positions and still have one left over for your flex, Lewis is every bit as much of an auto-start at flex as he is at RB.
I have WR 2, 13, 15 and 23 in my league

Lewis is RB 10 in my league

If Im reading you right, Lewis should be on the bench in favor of WR 2, 13 and 15

 
I dont think there will be a Blount type game in first halfs of any games this year. Lewis will get the majority of the snaps until the game is out of hand in most games this year. THats the way the team moves the ball is there short passing game.
Agree with this - seems like Lewis will have a chance to produce even when it's a "Blount game", he'll just need to be efficient as he may only get 10-12 touches. It's not totally either/or the way it was at times in the past.

 
I dont think there will be a Blount type game in first halfs of any games this year. Lewis will get the majority of the snaps until the game is out of hand in most games this year. THats the way the team moves the ball is there short passing game.
Agree with this - seems like Lewis will have a chance to produce even when it's a "Blount game", he'll just need to be efficient as he may only get 10-12 touches. It's not totally either/or the way it was at times in the past.
I have Lewis in one league and Blount in another - I'm basically starting Lewis every week he is healthy and Blount during "Blount games", so it looks like I'm starting them both this week.

 
Lewis finally getting the respect he deserves:

This is an updated ROS Flex position at FantasyPros (consensus expert opinion):

http://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/rankings/ros-ppr-flex.php

Now the past weeks I have been monitoring and until last Thursday's game he has been slowly creeping up, but nowhere near the top 10, now he's #2 only behind Freeman at flex position rest of season in PPR.

What surprised me was his top 10 position at non PPR. Thursday's nationally televised game really impressed the "experts".

http://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/rankings/ros-flex.php

Top2 ROS in PPR and Top8 in Standard leagues at flex, so this takes into account Gronk and all the WRs. The buying opp is over. This guy went from Mr. Irrelevant to elite in 8 short weeks, only 6 games played. Nice value for all who paid attention. even if you are one of the few that still don't believe you can trade him away for great value as of week 8. :thumbup:

ETA: P.S. RB5 for standard and RB2 rank for PPR so yea you can start him at flex LOL.

 
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Lewis finally getting the respect he deserves:

This is an updated ROS Flex position at FantasyPros (consensus expert opinion):

http://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/rankings/ros-ppr-flex.php

Now the past weeks I have been monitoring and until last Thursday's game he has been slowly creeping up, but nowhere near the top 10, now he's #2 only behind Freeman at flex position rest of season in PPR.

What surprised me was his top 10 position at non PPR. Thursday's nationally televised game really impressed the "experts".

http://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/rankings/ros-flex.php

Top2 ROS in PPR and Top8 in Standard leagues at flex, so this takes into account Gronk and all the WRs. The buying opp is over. This guy went from Mr. Irrelevant to elite in 8 short weeks, only 6 games played. Nice value for all who paid attention. even if you are one of the few that still don't believe you can trade him away for great value as of week 8. :thumbup:

ETA: P.S. RB5 for standard and RB2 rank for PPR so yea you can start him at flex LOL.
And Im thinking of trading him. Anyone else?

 
Lewis finally getting the respect he deserves:

This is an updated ROS Flex position at FantasyPros (consensus expert opinion):

http://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/rankings/ros-ppr-flex.php

Now the past weeks I have been monitoring and until last Thursday's game he has been slowly creeping up, but nowhere near the top 10, now he's #2 only behind Freeman at flex position rest of season in PPR.

What surprised me was his top 10 position at non PPR. Thursday's nationally televised game really impressed the "experts".

http://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/rankings/ros-flex.php

Top2 ROS in PPR and Top8 in Standard leagues at flex, so this takes into account Gronk and all the WRs. The buying opp is over. This guy went from Mr. Irrelevant to elite in 8 short weeks, only 6 games played. Nice value for all who paid attention. even if you are one of the few that still don't believe you can trade him away for great value as of week 8. :thumbup:

ETA: P.S. RB5 for standard and RB2 rank for PPR so yea you can start him at flex LOL.
And Im thinking of trading him. Anyone else?
You can pretty much trade him for anybody not named Freeman in PPR, so if you are not a believer now is the time. His value can hardly get any higher unless he goes gets more opps than the first half of season in closer games and goes enraged to Barry Sanders levels in the second half.

 
Here are all of his touches vs. MIA. Forgive me for the slight choppiness, my comp is a POS.
Thanks SSND! Great stuff. Here is what I saw.

Touch 1: Shotgun Lewis left of Brady. Screen play. Great lineman blocking up front to get Lewis into the secondary. Four Dolphins converge on Lewis, and he picks up another 2-3 yards after contact.

Touch 2: Shotgun Lewis left of Brady. Swing pass to Lewis 3 yds deep in the flat near the sidelines. Quick feet while catching, Lewis is already by the defender and heading upfield at full speed for 15+ pickup.

Touch 3: Single back deep, Lewis put in motion wide left outside the numbers. Lewis stops there for a screen and rumbles amidst traffic. Great outside foot plant to go against the grain and cut in and up the field.

Touch 4: Single back deep, Lewis is ~3 yards into the Pats' end zone. Good patience, shifts to his right a step after getting through the A gap to locate and drive through space. First contact a yard past scrimmage, but falls forward another 3.

Touch 5: Shotgun with Edelman in the backfield initially, Lewis lined up far right. Catches quick post route.

Touch 6: Shotgun Lewis left of Brady. Inside handoff. Lewis met in an outside gap by a linebacker, hit at LOS.

Touch 7: Shotgun Lewis left of Brady. Screen pass left that Lewis burns outside and up the sidelines, driven OB.

Touch 8: Shotgun Lewis right of Brady. Wheel route, untouched into the end zone. A great playcall.

Touch 9: Single back deep, Lewis takes the handoff, plants his foot and cuts left to get by middle defenders. Plants and cuts left again leaving the OLB with broken ankles, plants and cuts left one more time behind a block to spring outside and away from pursuing safety who drives him out of bounds another ten yards down field.

Touch 10: Single back deep, Lewis looks for a hole between tackles on teh left side, shows patience and draws defenders left befire sharply cutting right through a big gap he created, planting and cutting successively to the right as he makes two different defenders miss at two different levels before being tripped up behind another block at right hash.

Touch 11: Single back deep. Not the longest run, but a great example of Lewis's ability to make defenders miss. Takes handoff and runs outside the right guard only to be face-to-face with a blitzing corner. Lewis stops on a dime as the corner's monentum takes him past Lewis, only to have a DE shed his block and be right there ain position to take Lewis down. Lewis somehow shifts his hips so his legs stay out of the DE's tackle, immediately spins left to avoid a LB hit, and his tacked around the feet. He only goes down as yet another defender comes in around the shoulders. Pretty impressive.

Touch 12: Shotgun, Lewis in motion to line up far right. Starts inside the CB then sprints by his outside shoulder and is in position to make the catch, but misses it.

Touch 13: Shotgun Lewis left of Brady. Lewis adds a solid second block an OLB, then slowly releases to take a checkdown pass from Brady that is badly underthrown. Would have likely had a big run in space in the middle.

Touch 14: Shotgun Lewis left of Brady. Releases through the line on an out-route, Brady hit as he threw, ball way off target. Lewis had a sharp cut and was open.

tldr version: Lewis benefited from gameplan as was used mostly in swings and screens where coverage rolled downfield. He made the most of those opportunities and out on an incredible display of speed control adn cutting laterally to get to the next level. Amazing.
 
AcerFC said:
Adam Harstad said:
AcerFC said:
I am very fortunate to have a nice stable of RBs. So for me, it comes down to D Lewis vs a WR for my flex position every week

How do you guys compare a RB (that catches passes) to a WR in ppr.

Is Lewis more of an auto start at RB or is he a sure thing at flex also.
Unless you've got enough top-18 WRs that you can fill your starting WR positions and still have one left over for your flex, Lewis is every bit as much of an auto-start at flex as he is at RB.
I have WR 2, 13, 15 and 23 in my league

Lewis is RB 10 in my league

If Im reading you right, Lewis should be on the bench in favor of WR 2, 13 and 15
No, I'm saying he's an "auto-start" over any WR who is not a high-end WR2 at worst. Against WRs in the 13-18 range, I'd still usually start Lewis, but it wouldn't necessarily be automatic; I'd let matchups and other factors enter into the thought process.

 
thoughts for next year. where would we go? out of contention and may be a target since people dont seem to buy totally.

 
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I posted a message on my board saying he was available. This is an active league. I have gotten zero replies. No one seems to want him.

 
I was just offered Travis Benjamin for him straight up. Auction keep 2 where both players are league minimum salary until 2018.

 
Lewis finally getting the respect he deserves:

This is an updated ROS Flex position at FantasyPros (consensus expert opinion):

http://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/rankings/ros-ppr-flex.php

Now the past weeks I have been monitoring and until last Thursday's game he has been slowly creeping up, but nowhere near the top 10, now he's #2 only behind Freeman at flex position rest of season in PPR.

What surprised me was his top 10 position at non PPR. Thursday's nationally televised game really impressed the "experts".

http://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/rankings/ros-flex.php

Top2 ROS in PPR and Top8 in Standard leagues at flex, so this takes into account Gronk and all the WRs. The buying opp is over. This guy went from Mr. Irrelevant to elite in 8 short weeks, only 6 games played. Nice value for all who paid attention. even if you are one of the few that still don't believe you can trade him away for great value as of week 8. :thumbup:

ETA: P.S. RB5 for standard and RB2 rank for PPR so yea you can start him at flex LOL.
And Im thinking of trading him. Anyone else?
You can pretty much trade him for anybody not named Freeman in PPR, so if you are not a believer now is the time. His value can hardly get any higher unless he goes gets more opps than the first half of season in closer games and goes enraged to Barry Sanders levels in the second half.
I just offered Lewis and Charcnado for Gurley in PPR and was laughed at. The exact quote

I dont want two quarters for my dollar bill

So it looks like you can not trade him for anyone

 
Here are all of his touches vs. MIA. Forgive me for the slight choppiness, my comp is a POS.
Thanks SSND! Great stuff. Here is what I saw.

Touch 1: Shotgun Lewis left of Brady. Screen play. Great lineman blocking up front to get Lewis into the secondary. Four Dolphins converge on Lewis, and he picks up another 2-3 yards after contact.

...

tldr version: Lewis benefited from gameplan as was used mostly in swings and screens where coverage rolled downfield. He made the most of those opportunities and out on an incredible display of speed control adn cutting laterally to get to the next level. Amazing.
Great breakdown STC :thumbup:

 
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Lewis finally getting the respect he deserves:

This is an updated ROS Flex position at FantasyPros (consensus expert opinion):

http://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/rankings/ros-ppr-flex.php

Now the past weeks I have been monitoring and until last Thursday's game he has been slowly creeping up, but nowhere near the top 10, now he's #2 only behind Freeman at flex position rest of season in PPR.

What surprised me was his top 10 position at non PPR. Thursday's nationally televised game really impressed the "experts".

http://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/rankings/ros-flex.php

Top2 ROS in PPR and Top8 in Standard leagues at flex, so this takes into account Gronk and all the WRs. The buying opp is over. This guy went from Mr. Irrelevant to elite in 8 short weeks, only 6 games played. Nice value for all who paid attention. even if you are one of the few that still don't believe you can trade him away for great value as of week 8. :thumbup:

ETA: P.S. RB5 for standard and RB2 rank for PPR so yea you can start him at flex LOL.
And Im thinking of trading him. Anyone else?
You can pretty much trade him for anybody not named Freeman in PPR, so if you are not a believer now is the time. His value can hardly get any higher unless he goes gets more opps than the first half of season in closer games and goes enraged to Barry Sanders levels in the second half.
I just offered Lewis and Charcnado for Gurley in PPR and was laughed at. The exact quote

I dont want two quarters for my dollar bill

So it looks like you can not trade him for anyone
Umm, you tried to get Gurley. That is a lot different than not being able to trade him for anyone. I'm considering offering the Gurley owner Beckham and my first. I doubt its enough. (non ppr)

I offered my 2016 1st (late) for Lewis recently in non PPR and was turned down.

 
Lewis finally getting the respect he deserves:

This is an updated ROS Flex position at FantasyPros (consensus expert opinion):

http://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/rankings/ros-ppr-flex.php

Now the past weeks I have been monitoring and until last Thursday's game he has been slowly creeping up, but nowhere near the top 10, now he's #2 only behind Freeman at flex position rest of season in PPR.

What surprised me was his top 10 position at non PPR. Thursday's nationally televised game really impressed the "experts".

http://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/rankings/ros-flex.php

Top2 ROS in PPR and Top8 in Standard leagues at flex, so this takes into account Gronk and all the WRs. The buying opp is over. This guy went from Mr. Irrelevant to elite in 8 short weeks, only 6 games played. Nice value for all who paid attention. even if you are one of the few that still don't believe you can trade him away for great value as of week 8. :thumbup:

ETA: P.S. RB5 for standard and RB2 rank for PPR so yea you can start him at flex LOL.
And Im thinking of trading him. Anyone else?
You can pretty much trade him for anybody not named Freeman in PPR, so if you are not a believer now is the time. His value can hardly get any higher unless he goes gets more opps than the first half of season in closer games and goes enraged to Barry Sanders levels in the second half.
I just offered Lewis and Charcnado for Gurley in PPR and was laughed at. The exact quote

I dont want two quarters for my dollar bill

So it looks like you can not trade him for anyone
Umm, you tried to get Gurley. That is a lot different than not being able to trade him for anyone. I'm considering offering the Gurley owner Beckham and my first. I doubt its enough. (non ppr)

I offered my 2016 1st (late) for Lewis recently in non PPR and was turned down.
Yeah if I owned Gurley in a dynasty it would take a monster offer for me to move him. I'm not even sure if Lewis and Beckham would be enough and I like both those guys...a lot.

 
Lewis finally getting the respect he deserves:

This is an updated ROS Flex position at FantasyPros (consensus expert opinion):

http://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/rankings/ros-ppr-flex.php

Now the past weeks I have been monitoring and until last Thursday's game he has been slowly creeping up, but nowhere near the top 10, now he's #2 only behind Freeman at flex position rest of season in PPR.

What surprised me was his top 10 position at non PPR. Thursday's nationally televised game really impressed the "experts".

http://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/rankings/ros-flex.php

Top2 ROS in PPR and Top8 in Standard leagues at flex, so this takes into account Gronk and all the WRs. The buying opp is over. This guy went from Mr. Irrelevant to elite in 8 short weeks, only 6 games played. Nice value for all who paid attention. even if you are one of the few that still don't believe you can trade him away for great value as of week 8. :thumbup:

ETA: P.S. RB5 for standard and RB2 rank for PPR so yea you can start him at flex LOL.
And Im thinking of trading him. Anyone else?
You can pretty much trade him for anybody not named Freeman in PPR, so if you are not a believer now is the time. His value can hardly get any higher unless he goes gets more opps than the first half of season in closer games and goes enraged to Barry Sanders levels in the second half.
I just offered Lewis and Charcnado for Gurley in PPR and was laughed at. The exact quote

I dont want two quarters for my dollar bill

So it looks like you can not trade him for anyone
Umm, you tried to get Gurley. That is a lot different than not being able to trade him for anyone. I'm considering offering the Gurley owner Beckham and my first. I doubt its enough. (non ppr)

I offered my 2016 1st (late) for Lewis recently in non PPR and was turned down.
Yeah if I owned Gurley in a dynasty it would take a monster offer for me to move him. I'm not even sure if Lewis and Beckham would be enough and I like both those guys...a lot.
Agree. Gurley is just...wow!

 
Lewis finally getting the respect he deserves:

This is an updated ROS Flex position at FantasyPros (consensus expert opinion):

http://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/rankings/ros-ppr-flex.php

Now the past weeks I have been monitoring and until last Thursday's game he has been slowly creeping up, but nowhere near the top 10, now he's #2 only behind Freeman at flex position rest of season in PPR.

What surprised me was his top 10 position at non PPR. Thursday's nationally televised game really impressed the "experts".

http://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/rankings/ros-flex.php

Top2 ROS in PPR and Top8 in Standard leagues at flex, so this takes into account Gronk and all the WRs. The buying opp is over. This guy went from Mr. Irrelevant to elite in 8 short weeks, only 6 games played. Nice value for all who paid attention. even if you are one of the few that still don't believe you can trade him away for great value as of week 8. :thumbup:

ETA: P.S. RB5 for standard and RB2 rank for PPR so yea you can start him at flex LOL.
And Im thinking of trading him. Anyone else?
You can pretty much trade him for anybody not named Freeman in PPR, so if you are not a believer now is the time. His value can hardly get any higher unless he goes gets more opps than the first half of season in closer games and goes enraged to Barry Sanders levels in the second half.
I just offered Lewis and Charcnado for Gurley in PPR and was laughed at. The exact quote

I dont want two quarters for my dollar bill

So it looks like you can not trade him for anyone
I was just offered ODB in my quasi-dynasty/keeper league. In this league its hard to keep players beyond 3 years, and very difficult to carry them for 5 and more costly beyond that, 7 years max. So in a pure dynasty WRs are valued more but this setup makes young RBs just as valuable since keeping anyone beyond 3-5 years is super costly.

 
I offered Aaron Rodgers and Dion Lewis for Beckham and Alshon Jeffery and was turned down....ppr league....his QB is noodle arm Manning.

 
Toomuchnv said:
I offered Aaron Rodgers and Dion Lewis for Beckham and Alshon Jeffery and was turned down....ppr league....his QB is noodle arm Manning.
I wouldn't take that offer either. Unless for some reason his other receivers are also very good.

 
Toomuchnv said:
I offered Aaron Rodgers and Dion Lewis for Beckham and Alshon Jeffery and was turned down....ppr league....his QB is noodle arm Manning.
I wouldn't take that offer either. Unless for some reason his other receivers are also very good.
It is a 16 team league, so typically a top QB has more value than 10 or 12 team leagues.

 
Toomuchnv said:
I offered Aaron Rodgers and Dion Lewis for Beckham and Alshon Jeffery and was turned down....ppr league....his QB is noodle arm Manning.
I wouldn't take that offer either. Unless for some reason his other receivers are also very good.
It is a 16 team league, so typically a top QB has more value than 10 or 12 team leagues.
But who are his other wrs? You cripple a team taking 2 wrs like that from a team.

 
Lewis finally getting the respect he deserves:

This is an updated ROS Flex position at FantasyPros (consensus expert opinion):

http://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/rankings/ros-ppr-flex.php

Now the past weeks I have been monitoring and until last Thursday's game he has been slowly creeping up, but nowhere near the top 10, now he's #2 only behind Freeman at flex position rest of season in PPR.

What surprised me was his top 10 position at non PPR. Thursday's nationally televised game really impressed the "experts".

http://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/rankings/ros-flex.php

Top2 ROS in PPR and Top8 in Standard leagues at flex, so this takes into account Gronk and all the WRs. The buying opp is over. This guy went from Mr. Irrelevant to elite in 8 short weeks, only 6 games played. Nice value for all who paid attention. even if you are one of the few that still don't believe you can trade him away for great value as of week 8. :thumbup:

ETA: P.S. RB5 for standard and RB2 rank for PPR so yea you can start him at flex LOL.
And Im thinking of trading him. Anyone else?
You can pretty much trade him for anybody not named Freeman in PPR, so if you are not a believer now is the time. His value can hardly get any higher unless he goes gets more opps than the first half of season in closer games and goes enraged to Barry Sanders levels in the second half.
I just offered Lewis and Charcnado for Gurley in PPR and was laughed at. The exact quote

I dont want two quarters for my dollar bill

So it looks like you can not trade him for anyone
The funny thing is, he probably did you a favor.

 
I hope by some fluke WAS is able to keep this one relatively close but I doubt they will. Plus, WAS has been hemorrhaging points to bruisers over the past 3 weeks (Freeman 27/153/1, Ivory 20/146/1, Martin 19/136/0) so I think it's safe to expect a heavy dose of Blount at some point. I don't love his ceiling this week but I'm obviously starting him regardless.

 
I hope by some fluke WAS is able to keep this one relatively close but I doubt they will. Plus, WAS has been hemorrhaging points to bruisers over the past 3 weeks (Freeman 27/153/1, Ivory 20/146/1, Martin 19/136/0) so I think it's safe to expect a heavy dose of Blount at some point. I don't love his ceiling this week but I'm obviously starting him regardless.
I will start Dion every week he is active; I was convinced weeks ago that he is a big part of their base offense. I do think, however, that Blount also gets his this week. There's also this, impacting Redskins run defense:

Washington DT Terrance Knighton wasn't on the injury report; he's now out for Sunday with a migraine https://t.co/0CjQAk82Dz

— ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) November 7, 2015

 
Toomuchnv said:
I offered Aaron Rodgers and Dion Lewis for Beckham and Alshon Jeffery and was turned down....ppr league....his QB is noodle arm Manning.
I wouldn't take that offer either. Unless for some reason his other receivers are also very good.
It is a 16 team league, so typically a top QB has more value than 10 or 12 team leagues.
But who are his other wrs? You cripple a team taking 2 wrs like that from a team.
He also has Jarvis Landry and D. Thomas.....in this league you start 3 wr/rb's and 2 wr's.

 
Did not look good at all the way he went down, dropped the ball, and immediately grabbed ankle/lower leg area.

Looks better on the sideline but still very concerned.

 

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