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			Unless you've got enough top-18 WRs that you can fill your starting WR positions and still have one left over for your flex, Lewis is every bit as much of an auto-start at flex as he is at RB.I am very fortunate to have a nice stable of RBs. So for me, it comes down to D Lewis vs a WR for my flex position every week
How do you guys compare a RB (that catches passes) to a WR in ppr.
Is Lewis more of an auto start at RB or is he a sure thing at flex also.
I have WR 2, 13, 15 and 23 in my leagueUnless you've got enough top-18 WRs that you can fill your starting WR positions and still have one left over for your flex, Lewis is every bit as much of an auto-start at flex as he is at RB.I am very fortunate to have a nice stable of RBs. So for me, it comes down to D Lewis vs a WR for my flex position every week
How do you guys compare a RB (that catches passes) to a WR in ppr.
Is Lewis more of an auto start at RB or is he a sure thing at flex also.
Agree with this - seems like Lewis will have a chance to produce even when it's a "Blount game", he'll just need to be efficient as he may only get 10-12 touches. It's not totally either/or the way it was at times in the past.I dont think there will be a Blount type game in first halfs of any games this year. Lewis will get the majority of the snaps until the game is out of hand in most games this year. THats the way the team moves the ball is there short passing game.
I have Lewis in one league and Blount in another - I'm basically starting Lewis every week he is healthy and Blount during "Blount games", so it looks like I'm starting them both this week.Agree with this - seems like Lewis will have a chance to produce even when it's a "Blount game", he'll just need to be efficient as he may only get 10-12 touches. It's not totally either/or the way it was at times in the past.I dont think there will be a Blount type game in first halfs of any games this year. Lewis will get the majority of the snaps until the game is out of hand in most games this year. THats the way the team moves the ball is there short passing game.
 
 And Im thinking of trading him. Anyone else?Lewis finally getting the respect he deserves:
This is an updated ROS Flex position at FantasyPros (consensus expert opinion):
http://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/rankings/ros-ppr-flex.php
Now the past weeks I have been monitoring and until last Thursday's game he has been slowly creeping up, but nowhere near the top 10, now he's #2 only behind Freeman at flex position rest of season in PPR.
What surprised me was his top 10 position at non PPR. Thursday's nationally televised game really impressed the "experts".
http://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/rankings/ros-flex.php
Top2 ROS in PPR and Top8 in Standard leagues at flex, so this takes into account Gronk and all the WRs. The buying opp is over. This guy went from Mr. Irrelevant to elite in 8 short weeks, only 6 games played. Nice value for all who paid attention. even if you are one of the few that still don't believe you can trade him away for great value as of week 8.
ETA: P.S. RB5 for standard and RB2 rank for PPR so yea you can start him at flex LOL.
You can pretty much trade him for anybody not named Freeman in PPR, so if you are not a believer now is the time. His value can hardly get any higher unless he goes gets more opps than the first half of season in closer games and goes enraged to Barry Sanders levels in the second half.And Im thinking of trading him. Anyone else?Lewis finally getting the respect he deserves:
This is an updated ROS Flex position at FantasyPros (consensus expert opinion):
http://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/rankings/ros-ppr-flex.php
Now the past weeks I have been monitoring and until last Thursday's game he has been slowly creeping up, but nowhere near the top 10, now he's #2 only behind Freeman at flex position rest of season in PPR.
What surprised me was his top 10 position at non PPR. Thursday's nationally televised game really impressed the "experts".
http://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/rankings/ros-flex.php
Top2 ROS in PPR and Top8 in Standard leagues at flex, so this takes into account Gronk and all the WRs. The buying opp is over. This guy went from Mr. Irrelevant to elite in 8 short weeks, only 6 games played. Nice value for all who paid attention. even if you are one of the few that still don't believe you can trade him away for great value as of week 8.
ETA: P.S. RB5 for standard and RB2 rank for PPR so yea you can start him at flex LOL.
Thanks SSND! Great stuff. Here is what I saw.Here are all of his touches vs. MIA. Forgive me for the slight choppiness, my comp is a POS.
No, I'm saying he's an "auto-start" over any WR who is not a high-end WR2 at worst. Against WRs in the 13-18 range, I'd still usually start Lewis, but it wouldn't necessarily be automatic; I'd let matchups and other factors enter into the thought process.AcerFC said:I have WR 2, 13, 15 and 23 in my leagueAdam Harstad said:Unless you've got enough top-18 WRs that you can fill your starting WR positions and still have one left over for your flex, Lewis is every bit as much of an auto-start at flex as he is at RB.AcerFC said:I am very fortunate to have a nice stable of RBs. So for me, it comes down to D Lewis vs a WR for my flex position every week
How do you guys compare a RB (that catches passes) to a WR in ppr.
Is Lewis more of an auto start at RB or is he a sure thing at flex also.
Lewis is RB 10 in my league
If Im reading you right, Lewis should be on the bench in favor of WR 2, 13 and 15
1.3thoughts for next year. where would we go? out of contention and may be a target since people dont seem to buy totally.
I just offered Lewis and Charcnado for Gurley in PPR and was laughed at. The exact quoteYou can pretty much trade him for anybody not named Freeman in PPR, so if you are not a believer now is the time. His value can hardly get any higher unless he goes gets more opps than the first half of season in closer games and goes enraged to Barry Sanders levels in the second half.And Im thinking of trading him. Anyone else?Lewis finally getting the respect he deserves:
This is an updated ROS Flex position at FantasyPros (consensus expert opinion):
http://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/rankings/ros-ppr-flex.php
Now the past weeks I have been monitoring and until last Thursday's game he has been slowly creeping up, but nowhere near the top 10, now he's #2 only behind Freeman at flex position rest of season in PPR.
What surprised me was his top 10 position at non PPR. Thursday's nationally televised game really impressed the "experts".
http://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/rankings/ros-flex.php
Top2 ROS in PPR and Top8 in Standard leagues at flex, so this takes into account Gronk and all the WRs. The buying opp is over. This guy went from Mr. Irrelevant to elite in 8 short weeks, only 6 games played. Nice value for all who paid attention. even if you are one of the few that still don't believe you can trade him away for great value as of week 8.
ETA: P.S. RB5 for standard and RB2 rank for PPR so yea you can start him at flex LOL.
Great breakdown STCThanks SSND! Great stuff. Here is what I saw.Here are all of his touches vs. MIA. Forgive me for the slight choppiness, my comp is a POS.
Touch 1: Shotgun Lewis left of Brady. Screen play. Great lineman blocking up front to get Lewis into the secondary. Four Dolphins converge on Lewis, and he picks up another 2-3 yards after contact.
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tldr version: Lewis benefited from gameplan as was used mostly in swings and screens where coverage rolled downfield. He made the most of those opportunities and out on an incredible display of speed control adn cutting laterally to get to the next level. Amazing.
 
 Umm, you tried to get Gurley. That is a lot different than not being able to trade him for anyone. I'm considering offering the Gurley owner Beckham and my first. I doubt its enough. (non ppr)I just offered Lewis and Charcnado for Gurley in PPR and was laughed at. The exact quoteYou can pretty much trade him for anybody not named Freeman in PPR, so if you are not a believer now is the time. His value can hardly get any higher unless he goes gets more opps than the first half of season in closer games and goes enraged to Barry Sanders levels in the second half.And Im thinking of trading him. Anyone else?Lewis finally getting the respect he deserves:
This is an updated ROS Flex position at FantasyPros (consensus expert opinion):
http://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/rankings/ros-ppr-flex.php
Now the past weeks I have been monitoring and until last Thursday's game he has been slowly creeping up, but nowhere near the top 10, now he's #2 only behind Freeman at flex position rest of season in PPR.
What surprised me was his top 10 position at non PPR. Thursday's nationally televised game really impressed the "experts".
http://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/rankings/ros-flex.php
Top2 ROS in PPR and Top8 in Standard leagues at flex, so this takes into account Gronk and all the WRs. The buying opp is over. This guy went from Mr. Irrelevant to elite in 8 short weeks, only 6 games played. Nice value for all who paid attention. even if you are one of the few that still don't believe you can trade him away for great value as of week 8.
ETA: P.S. RB5 for standard and RB2 rank for PPR so yea you can start him at flex LOL.
I dont want two quarters for my dollar bill
So it looks like you can not trade him for anyone
Yeah if I owned Gurley in a dynasty it would take a monster offer for me to move him. I'm not even sure if Lewis and Beckham would be enough and I like both those guys...a lot.Umm, you tried to get Gurley. That is a lot different than not being able to trade him for anyone. I'm considering offering the Gurley owner Beckham and my first. I doubt its enough. (non ppr)I just offered Lewis and Charcnado for Gurley in PPR and was laughed at. The exact quoteYou can pretty much trade him for anybody not named Freeman in PPR, so if you are not a believer now is the time. His value can hardly get any higher unless he goes gets more opps than the first half of season in closer games and goes enraged to Barry Sanders levels in the second half.And Im thinking of trading him. Anyone else?Lewis finally getting the respect he deserves:
This is an updated ROS Flex position at FantasyPros (consensus expert opinion):
http://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/rankings/ros-ppr-flex.php
Now the past weeks I have been monitoring and until last Thursday's game he has been slowly creeping up, but nowhere near the top 10, now he's #2 only behind Freeman at flex position rest of season in PPR.
What surprised me was his top 10 position at non PPR. Thursday's nationally televised game really impressed the "experts".
http://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/rankings/ros-flex.php
Top2 ROS in PPR and Top8 in Standard leagues at flex, so this takes into account Gronk and all the WRs. The buying opp is over. This guy went from Mr. Irrelevant to elite in 8 short weeks, only 6 games played. Nice value for all who paid attention. even if you are one of the few that still don't believe you can trade him away for great value as of week 8.
ETA: P.S. RB5 for standard and RB2 rank for PPR so yea you can start him at flex LOL.
I dont want two quarters for my dollar bill
So it looks like you can not trade him for anyone
I offered my 2016 1st (late) for Lewis recently in non PPR and was turned down.
Agree. Gurley is just...wow!Yeah if I owned Gurley in a dynasty it would take a monster offer for me to move him. I'm not even sure if Lewis and Beckham would be enough and I like both those guys...a lot.Umm, you tried to get Gurley. That is a lot different than not being able to trade him for anyone. I'm considering offering the Gurley owner Beckham and my first. I doubt its enough. (non ppr)I just offered Lewis and Charcnado for Gurley in PPR and was laughed at. The exact quoteYou can pretty much trade him for anybody not named Freeman in PPR, so if you are not a believer now is the time. His value can hardly get any higher unless he goes gets more opps than the first half of season in closer games and goes enraged to Barry Sanders levels in the second half.And Im thinking of trading him. Anyone else?Lewis finally getting the respect he deserves:
This is an updated ROS Flex position at FantasyPros (consensus expert opinion):
http://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/rankings/ros-ppr-flex.php
Now the past weeks I have been monitoring and until last Thursday's game he has been slowly creeping up, but nowhere near the top 10, now he's #2 only behind Freeman at flex position rest of season in PPR.
What surprised me was his top 10 position at non PPR. Thursday's nationally televised game really impressed the "experts".
http://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/rankings/ros-flex.php
Top2 ROS in PPR and Top8 in Standard leagues at flex, so this takes into account Gronk and all the WRs. The buying opp is over. This guy went from Mr. Irrelevant to elite in 8 short weeks, only 6 games played. Nice value for all who paid attention. even if you are one of the few that still don't believe you can trade him away for great value as of week 8.
ETA: P.S. RB5 for standard and RB2 rank for PPR so yea you can start him at flex LOL.
I dont want two quarters for my dollar bill
So it looks like you can not trade him for anyone
I offered my 2016 1st (late) for Lewis recently in non PPR and was turned down.
I was just offered ODB in my quasi-dynasty/keeper league. In this league its hard to keep players beyond 3 years, and very difficult to carry them for 5 and more costly beyond that, 7 years max. So in a pure dynasty WRs are valued more but this setup makes young RBs just as valuable since keeping anyone beyond 3-5 years is super costly.I just offered Lewis and Charcnado for Gurley in PPR and was laughed at. The exact quoteYou can pretty much trade him for anybody not named Freeman in PPR, so if you are not a believer now is the time. His value can hardly get any higher unless he goes gets more opps than the first half of season in closer games and goes enraged to Barry Sanders levels in the second half.And Im thinking of trading him. Anyone else?Lewis finally getting the respect he deserves:
This is an updated ROS Flex position at FantasyPros (consensus expert opinion):
http://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/rankings/ros-ppr-flex.php
Now the past weeks I have been monitoring and until last Thursday's game he has been slowly creeping up, but nowhere near the top 10, now he's #2 only behind Freeman at flex position rest of season in PPR.
What surprised me was his top 10 position at non PPR. Thursday's nationally televised game really impressed the "experts".
http://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/rankings/ros-flex.php
Top2 ROS in PPR and Top8 in Standard leagues at flex, so this takes into account Gronk and all the WRs. The buying opp is over. This guy went from Mr. Irrelevant to elite in 8 short weeks, only 6 games played. Nice value for all who paid attention. even if you are one of the few that still don't believe you can trade him away for great value as of week 8.
ETA: P.S. RB5 for standard and RB2 rank for PPR so yea you can start him at flex LOL.
I dont want two quarters for my dollar bill
So it looks like you can not trade him for anyone
I wouldn't take that offer either. Unless for some reason his other receivers are also very good.Toomuchnv said:I offered Aaron Rodgers and Dion Lewis for Beckham and Alshon Jeffery and was turned down....ppr league....his QB is noodle arm Manning.
Yeah, top 5 QB and top 10? RB < two top 10 WRs.I wouldn't take that offer either. Unless for some reason his other receivers are also very good.Toomuchnv said:I offered Aaron Rodgers and Dion Lewis for Beckham and Alshon Jeffery and was turned down....ppr league....his QB is noodle arm Manning.
It is a 16 team league, so typically a top QB has more value than 10 or 12 team leagues.I wouldn't take that offer either. Unless for some reason his other receivers are also very good.Toomuchnv said:I offered Aaron Rodgers and Dion Lewis for Beckham and Alshon Jeffery and was turned down....ppr league....his QB is noodle arm Manning.
But who are his other wrs? You cripple a team taking 2 wrs like that from a team.It is a 16 team league, so typically a top QB has more value than 10 or 12 team leagues.I wouldn't take that offer either. Unless for some reason his other receivers are also very good.Toomuchnv said:I offered Aaron Rodgers and Dion Lewis for Beckham and Alshon Jeffery and was turned down....ppr league....his QB is noodle arm Manning.
The funny thing is, he probably did you a favor.I just offered Lewis and Charcnado for Gurley in PPR and was laughed at. The exact quoteYou can pretty much trade him for anybody not named Freeman in PPR, so if you are not a believer now is the time. His value can hardly get any higher unless he goes gets more opps than the first half of season in closer games and goes enraged to Barry Sanders levels in the second half.And Im thinking of trading him. Anyone else?Lewis finally getting the respect he deserves:
This is an updated ROS Flex position at FantasyPros (consensus expert opinion):
http://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/rankings/ros-ppr-flex.php
Now the past weeks I have been monitoring and until last Thursday's game he has been slowly creeping up, but nowhere near the top 10, now he's #2 only behind Freeman at flex position rest of season in PPR.
What surprised me was his top 10 position at non PPR. Thursday's nationally televised game really impressed the "experts".
http://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/rankings/ros-flex.php
Top2 ROS in PPR and Top8 in Standard leagues at flex, so this takes into account Gronk and all the WRs. The buying opp is over. This guy went from Mr. Irrelevant to elite in 8 short weeks, only 6 games played. Nice value for all who paid attention. even if you are one of the few that still don't believe you can trade him away for great value as of week 8.
ETA: P.S. RB5 for standard and RB2 rank for PPR so yea you can start him at flex LOL.
I dont want two quarters for my dollar bill
So it looks like you can not trade him for anyone
I will start Dion every week he is active; I was convinced weeks ago that he is a big part of their base offense. I do think, however, that Blount also gets his this week. There's also this, impacting Redskins run defense:I hope by some fluke WAS is able to keep this one relatively close but I doubt they will. Plus, WAS has been hemorrhaging points to bruisers over the past 3 weeks (Freeman 27/153/1, Ivory 20/146/1, Martin 19/136/0) so I think it's safe to expect a heavy dose of Blount at some point. I don't love his ceiling this week but I'm obviously starting him regardless.
He also has Jarvis Landry and D. Thomas.....in this league you start 3 wr/rb's and 2 wr's.But who are his other wrs? You cripple a team taking 2 wrs like that from a team.It is a 16 team league, so typically a top QB has more value than 10 or 12 team leagues.I wouldn't take that offer either. Unless for some reason his other receivers are also very good.Toomuchnv said:I offered Aaron Rodgers and Dion Lewis for Beckham and Alshon Jeffery and was turned down....ppr league....his QB is noodle arm Manning.
I've seen people walk without their achilles in tact, but he walked off the field with no assistance just fine.Looked like achilles. Done
