Disucssion: Let's debate the fairest way to determine waiver wire (1 Viewer)

[bkterps]

Here are how my 3 leagues do it, with some comments:

League 1 - Everyone bids a dollar amount on a player. The last bid to come with a higher amount for the same player with a 7:59 time stamp is awarded that player. I like this because then it is not a "luck of the draw" issue. If I really wanted a particular player, then I should have bid more!

League 2 - We go worst to first. Positive on this is that it keeps the league competitive. Negatives are that why should you award a team that didn't draft as well as others did?

League 3 - I HATE this one. Simply a first-come, first-serve. It's "luck of the draw". There is enough luck in fantasy football, if you admit it or not (took me 3 years too). It would be okay if evened itself out over the course of the season, but the same guy seems to be getting whoever he wants!

How do you run the waivers??

 

[Lott's Fingertip]

Blind bidding is the only way to go.

 

[bkterps]

Blind bidding is the only way to go.

Blind bidding meaning that you can only put in one bid that no one else sees and you have no chance to increase that bid? Who get's it if it is a tie? The first bidder?

 

[jmsne]

our waiver system is about the fairest I have ever seen in any league..

every coach starts the season with 100 waiver dollars.. we have a website that has a simple auction program on it.. players are put up until 2 days before the first game of the week at midnight, then you have until midnight on wed if its a thursday game or noon on saturday if its a sunday game to bid on players.. everytime you win, you get 5 waiver dollars added to your total, everytime you lose you get 10 waiver dollars added to your total.. you can trade waiver dollars also..

 

[[scooter]]

Blind bidding is the only way to go.

We give bonus money to the 4 worst teams as well as giving them a "discount" on the first-come-first-serve waivers (Friday through Sunday). Everyone likes it.

 

[bkterps]

our waiver system is about the fairest I have ever seen in any league.. every coach starts the season with 100 waiver dollars.. we have a website that has a simple auction program on it.. players are put up until 2 days before the first game of the week at midnight, then you have until midnight on wed if its a thursday game or noon on saturday if its a sunday game to bid on players.. everytime you win, you get 5 waiver dollars added to your total, everytime you lose you get 10 waiver dollars added to your total.. you can trade waiver dollars also..

I've heard the 100 cap before. I like that idea. I really like the idea of adding money to it each week! Is there a timeline to stop the bidding or is it like a normal auction where it keeps going until someone stops trumping the current bid?

 

[Lott's Fingertip]

Blind bidding is the only way to go.

Blind bidding meaning that you can only put in one bid that no one else sees and you have no chance to increase that bid? Who get's it if it is a tie? The first bidder?

Every owner starts the year with the same amount of money to spend on free agents.We can bid on up to two players every Wednesday night... high bidder wins.Ties are broken with a Thursday rebid between the respective owners.

 

[jon_mx]

Blind bidding is the only way to go.

We roll the dice and put everyone in order. Once you use a waiver pick you drop to the end of the line. After waivers are done, you can pick up free agents on a first come first serve basis without impacting waiver order.

 

[jmsne]

our waiver system is about the fairest I have ever seen in any league.. every coach starts the season with 100 waiver dollars.. we have a website that has a simple auction program on it.. players are put up until 2 days before the first game of the week at midnight, then you have until midnight on wed if its a thursday game or noon on saturday if its a sunday game to bid on players.. everytime you win, you get 5 waiver dollars added to your total, everytime you lose you get 10 waiver dollars added to your total.. you can trade waiver dollars also..

I've heard the 100 cap before. I like that idea. I really like the idea of adding money to it each week! Is there a timeline to stop the bidding or is it like a normal auction where it keeps going until someone stops trumping the current bid?

there is a time limit, its midnight on wed for thursday games, and noon on saturday for sunday games.. all bids are final at those times and players are awarded to the high bidder..

 

[MOAT]

I like the blind bid. We handle ties by having a 24 hr rebid between those that tied. When that happened there were trades that included bid $ (because we had both bid max). I don't even remember the player but I lost. BB puts more though into how hard you should go after someone. It is funny to see people with tons of waiver $ at the end of season and look back at the times they didn't bid enough.

Blind bidding works best if the web site manages it, not the commish. If it all runs through the commish they get to see all the bids and have more info about who might bid and how much they might bid.

 

[Ayok]

Blind bidding is the only way to go.

Blind bidding meaning that you can only put in one bid that no one else sees and you have no chance to increase that bid? Who get's it if it is a tie? The first bidder?

Coming up with a "fair" tie breaker mechanism is far better than coming up with a "fair" order for the waiver wire.

 

[bkterps]

I like the blind bid. We handle ties by having a 24 hr rebid between those that tied. When that happened there were trades that included bid $ (because we had both bid max). I don't even remember the player but I lost. BB puts more though into how hard you should go after someone. It is funny to see people with tons of waiver $ at the end of season and look back at the times they didn't bid enough.Blind bidding works best if the web site manages it, not the commish. If it all runs through the commish they get to see all the bids and have more info about who might bid and how much they might bid.

Totally agree on the website management. I'm liking this blind bid and the rebid for those that are tied. Thanks for the insight!

 

[bkterps]

Blind bidding is the only way to go.

Blind bidding meaning that you can only put in one bid that no one else sees and you have no chance to increase that bid? Who get's it if it is a tie? The first bidder?

Coming up with a "fair" tie breaker mechanism is far better than coming up with a "fair" order for the waiver wire.

You talking about tie games? How are your ties broken now? I think they are both important. You may only get one tie per year, but the waiver wire is used weekly and can help a player vault to the superbowl. There's a player every year...last year was Colston for one.

 

[GregR_2]

Here are how my 3 leagues do it, with some comments:League 1 - Everyone bids a dollar amount on a player. The last bid to come with a higher amount for the same player with a 7:59 time stamp is awarded that player. I like this because then it is not a "luck of the draw" issue. If I really wanted a particular player, then I should have bid more!League 2 - We go worst to first. Positive on this is that it keeps the league competitive. Negatives are that why should you award a team that didn't draft as well as others did? League 3 - I HATE this one. Simply a first-come, first-serve. It's "luck of the draw". There is enough luck in fantasy football, if you admit it or not (took me 3 years too). It would be okay if evened itself out over the course of the season, but the same guy seems to be getting whoever he wants!How do you run the waivers??

4. Waiver priority starts out originally based on draft position, and every time a team takes a player via queued up or FCFS, they drop to the end of the priority list. The priority runs like this all year, never gets reset.My preference is blind bidding, but I'd much rather do #4 than reset the waiver priority every week if the league doesn't want to do bidding.

 

[bkterps]

Here are how my 3 leagues do it, with some comments:League 1 - Everyone bids a dollar amount on a player. The last bid to come with a higher amount for the same player with a 7:59 time stamp is awarded that player. I like this because then it is not a "luck of the draw" issue. If I really wanted a particular player, then I should have bid more!League 2 - We go worst to first. Positive on this is that it keeps the league competitive. Negatives are that why should you award a team that didn't draft as well as others did? League 3 - I HATE this one. Simply a first-come, first-serve. It's "luck of the draw". There is enough luck in fantasy football, if you admit it or not (took me 3 years too). It would be okay if evened itself out over the course of the season, but the same guy seems to be getting whoever he wants!How do you run the waivers??

4. Waiver priority starts out originally based on draft position, and every time a team takes a player via queued up or FCFS, they drop to the end of the priority list. The priority runs like this all year, never gets reset.My preference is blind bidding, but I'd much rather do #4 than reset the waiver priority every week if the league doesn't want to do bidding.

We started our league like that years ago, but people kept whining that rich got richer. Meaning that since they never had to use an early add they just sandbagged until a stud emerged. I always said you should have drafted better. Isn't that the begining of fantasy football??

 

[Yitbos69]

I like the blind bid....gives everyone a fair chance to pick up a player

 

[MOAT]

4. Waiver priority starts out originally based on draft position, and every time a team takes a player via queued up or FCFS, they drop to the end of the priority list. The priority runs like this all year, never gets reset.My preference is blind bidding, but I'd much rather do #4 than reset the waiver priority every week if the league doesn't want to do bidding.

I agree. Blind bid followed by #4. The good part of #4 is that good things come to those that wait but the early bird gets the worm. Which means, pick the right time to use your #1 WW priority.

 

[Organized Chaos]

We do proxy style blind bidding..

Blind bidding where the winner pays 1$ more then the next highest bidder, a tie is resolved by a randomizer in the sofware.

 

[broncofan13000]

i would vote blind bidding...i hate worst to first waiver priority...

 

[Judge Smails]

We do bidding wars with real $. All money gets added to the pot. Hot FA have gone for $200+. Last year we put in a $600 max for the year, after that there is a luxury tax where the owner has to match each winning bid dollar for dollar.

 

[pghrob]

After two years of blind bidding via system run auction(start season with $1000), our league switched back to waiver wire, with worst team records getting first claim options. The claim order is set to reset each week for the worst record.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

Here are how my 3 leagues do it, with some comments:League 1 - Everyone bids a dollar amount on a player. The last bid to come with a higher amount for the same player with a 7:59 time stamp is awarded that player. I like this because then it is not a "luck of the draw" issue. If I really wanted a particular player, then I should have bid more!League 2 - We go worst to first. Positive on this is that it keeps the league competitive. Negatives are that why should you award a team that didn't draft as well as others did? League 3 - I HATE this one. Simply a first-come, first-serve. It's "luck of the draw". There is enough luck in fantasy football, if you admit it or not (took me 3 years too). It would be okay if evened itself out over the course of the season, but the same guy seems to be getting whoever he wants!How do you run the waivers??

4. Waiver priority starts out originally based on draft position, and every time a team takes a player via queued up or FCFS, they drop to the end of the priority list. The priority runs like this all year, never gets reset.My preference is blind bidding, but I'd much rather do #4 than reset the waiver priority every week if the league doesn't want to do bidding.

 

[Phil Elliott]

How does the waiver system work in the NFL? Is there a priority system to determine when each team can claim someone off waivers, is a first come model, or something else?

 

[Nate]

In my leagues we have $100 to spend on free agents for the year. From Tuesday noon to kickoff it's first come first serve, each FA costs a minimum of $3 or $5. From Sunday to Tuesday, you can put in a claim but other owners can bid against you. The owners bid back and forth until one stands for 24 hours or the other backs out.

I like having a minimum cost for each free agent and not adding to the total because it helps to deter people with bad teams from playing the numbers game and making 3 moves each week and picking up every chump that has a good game.

 

[GregR_2]

How does the waiver system work in the NFL? Is there a priority system to determine when each team can claim someone off waivers, is a first come model, or something else?

During the season it's worst to first based on current record. During preseason it is based on previous season record.

 

[LAUNCH]

In my league we have a salary cap and the off-season is part of that overall cap. We have a Friday or Wednesday deadline for putting a players name on the board. If multiple people want that person then there is an auction. Some teams may keep more and be able to bid more during these auctions for free agents than others. The person who puts the persons name in first wins all ties. It is by far the fairest way.

LAUNCH