Divisional Round- Green Bay @ Dallas Thread (1 Viewer)

[Interseptopus]

What makes you think GB can stop Zeke?  Does Dallas not have the best O line in the league?  If GB stacks the box, Dez should have a huge game.

I don't think they will stop Zeke. I think they will contain him best they can, forcing Dak to beat them. I really don't think Dak can beat GB by himself; Zeke is what carries that team. If you can contain him and make him just average, then Dak has to beat them through the air. 

Part of containing Zeke is by dictating the game script. If the Packers can get up by 2 scores early, Dallas will not abandon the run but they will have to pass more than they probably like to in order to catch up. That works to GBs advantage. 

GB has a pretty poor pass defense, but they are getting healthy this week. Rollins may be back, which is huge. They just held OBJ to 30 something yards without their best  (maybe second best) corner. 

Cowboysfan likes to reference that Dallas ran for 191 yards at their last meeting... GB only gave up 247 passing yards that game. That's one of their top 5 performances vs the pass this season (and they were without Rollins that game I believe). So it's very possible that GB can contain Dak if they stack the box vs Zeke. The GB offense is playing WAY better than when they faced Dallas. And their Defense is playing top notch as well. This is possibly the best GB has played all year. 

Cowboys have looked very beatable lately. Excluding the Lion game, their recent wins were won by a margin of one score, versus earlier in the season when they were winning by on average 12 or so points if I remember correctly. That includes games against the Vikings and Buccaneers who are mediocre teams. In fact, if you look a the Cowboy's resume, it's not that impressive. Who have they beaten? Besides the Packers at their worst point of the season, and the Steelers which was a very impressive win, they really haven't beaten anyone but a bunch of mediocre teams. Similar to the Lions actually

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Dallas really got a nice pass for going 14-2 and home playoffs. 

Aaron Rodgers...who do the Pats play this weekend? 

 

[Interseptopus]

Not to muddy up a GB/DAL thread, but what SEA did, at home, against marginal competition is a different animal than playing on the road against stiffer competition. DET did not beat a playoff team all season. And what was the graphic they showed during the game . . . that the Lions had only 4 wins in 50-60 years playing on the West Coast.

In the Wilson era, SEA has won 87% of their home games but only 56% of their road games. Assuming the Cowboys win, Wilson has never won back to back games on the road in the playoffs. The Seahawks did not win back to back road games this year. I am fairly certain WIlson has never beaten two playoff teams back to back on the road before in his career. 

Wilson is also having his worst season ever as a pro. At Seattle is always a tough place to play, because of that astonishing statistic of 87% games won. Lions made Rawls look like a probowler. Wasn't he benched earlier this season? Lions are just playing that bad. Very overrated

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Romo will be under Center at some point on Sunday, Win lose or draw.

 

[Interseptopus]

Romo will be under Center at some point on Sunday, Win lose or draw.

I agree with this completely. I can foresee a panic mode scenario. I actually like Dallas' chances in that scenario better though

Cowboys may actually lose due to Dez not completing the process of a catch on a last minute TD. Packers go on to win the Superbowl. Dez jersey's are burned in Dallas and Dez is run out of town. Goes to Philadelphia and week 1 catches an 80 yard TD first play. Proceeds to have relations with Garrett's wife as his TD celebration. 

 

[Sabertooth]

2nd best player your forgot the other #12 in foxboro 

Lol.  In your dreams. 

 

[Sabertooth]

I don't think they will stop Zeke. I think they will contain him best they can, forcing Dak to beat them. I really don't think Dak can beat GB by himself; Zeke is what carries that team. If you can contain him and make him just average, then Dak has to beat them through the air. 

Part of containing Zeke is by dictating the game script. If the Packers can get up by 2 scores early, Dallas will not abandon the run but they will have to pass more than they probably like to in order to catch up. That works to GBs advantage. 

GB has a pretty poor pass defense, but they are getting healthy this week. Rollins may be back, which is huge. They just held OBJ to 30 something yards without their best  (maybe second best) corner. 

Cowboysfan likes to reference that Dallas ran for 191 yards at their last meeting... GB only gave up 247 passing yards that game. That's one of their top 5 performances vs the pass this season (and they were without Rollins that game I believe). So it's very possible that GB can contain Dak if they stack the box vs Zeke. The GB offense is playing WAY better than when they faced Dallas. And their Defense is playing top notch as well. This is possibly the best GB has played all year. 

Cowboys have looked very beatable lately. Excluding the Lion game, their recent wins were won by a margin of one score, versus earlier in the season when they were winning by on average 12 or so points if I remember correctly. That includes games against the Vikings and Buccaneers who are mediocre teams. In fact, if you look a the Cowboy's resume, it's not that impressive. Who have they beaten? Besides the Packers at their worst point of the season, and the Steelers which was a very impressive win, they really haven't beaten anyone but a bunch of mediocre teams. Similar to the Lions actually

Agreed.  A lot of this game will be decided on the first half dozen drives.  

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Cute to take the two games from the worst stretch of GB's season... their run D is way different than it was when they faced either of those teams months ago

I picked out the only 2 good rush offenses they faced all season. Did they shut down a good run game in this stretch now that they're way different that I missed?

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Cute to take the two games from the worst stretch of GB's season... their run D is way different than it was when they faced either of those teams months ago

I picked out the only 2 good rush offenses they faced all season. Did they shut down a good run game in this stretch now that they're way different that I missed?

Eta: actually the Bears and Redskins have decent run games also, Howard and Kelley averaged over 5 yd a carry

 

[Mr.Pack]

Packers just don't fare well against a mobile QB. Just another dimension that is adding up, against an already banged up Def.

Like I said earlier, their only chance is if both Dak and Zeke play like the rookies they are. If Dallas plays a solid game, Green Bay will probably lose. It'll take a herculean effort.

 

[mozzy84]

Cute to take the two games from the worst stretch of GB's season... their run D is way different than it was when they faced either of those teams months ago

When have they played anyone who can actually run the ball the last two months?  Isn't that what he is saying?

 

[Interseptopus]

I picked out the only 2 good rush offenses they faced all season. Did they shut down a good run game in this stretch now that they're way different that I missed?

Eta: actually the Bears and Redskins have decent run games also, Howard and Kelley averaged over 5 yd a carry

Packers are ranked 8th against the run as a whole. I can play this game too:

The 4 games where the Cowboys faced a half decent QB they gave up on average 380 passing yards a game, which would put them dead last in the league by 100 yards

Rodgers....

 

[cockroach]

Football is about match ups and besides the QB position, Dallas has an edge at every other spot on the field.

QBs don't match up against each other.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Packers are ranked 8th against the run as a whole. I can play this game too:

The 4 games where the Cowboys faced a half decent QB they gave up on average 380 passing yards a game, which would put them dead last in the league by 100 yards

Rodgers....

Yeah, I'm aware of that. That's why I'm not bragging about how good they are

 

[cockroach]

dez will be pumped to have a big game after his "drop' from a few years ago. 

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

I'm hoping Aaron Rodgers chartered a really nice yacht down in Cancun for yesterday and today, filled it with booze, drugs, and hootchies, and sent every Cowboy an anonymous invite, and first class air fare, to spend two days and one night recharging. Ideally Odell Beckem would have been the host.

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

dez will be pumped to have a big game after his "drop' from a few years ago. 

My recollection is that they have met at least once since then.  Can he still draw motivation now, after having, presumably, drawn on it before?  maybe.  I don't know.

 

[cockroach]

My recollection is that they have met at least once since then.  Can he still draw motivation now, after having, presumably, drawn on it before?  maybe.  I don't know.

playoffs baby

 

[Manster]

I don't think they will stop Zeke. I think they will contain him best they can, forcing Dak to beat them. I really don't think Dak can beat GB by himself; Zeke is what carries that team. If you can contain him and make him just average, then Dak has to beat them through the air. 

Part of containing Zeke is by dictating the game script. If the Packers can get up by 2 scores early, Dallas will not abandon the run but they will have to pass more than they probably like to in order to catch up. That works to GBs advantage. 

GB has a pretty poor pass defense, but they are getting healthy this week. Rollins may be back, which is huge. They just held OBJ to 30 something yards without their best  (maybe second best) corner. 

Cowboysfan likes to reference that Dallas ran for 191 yards at their last meeting... GB only gave up 247 passing yards that game. That's one of their top 5 performances vs the pass this season (and they were without Rollins that game I believe). So it's very possible that GB can contain Dak if they stack the box vs Zeke. The GB offense is playing WAY better than when they faced Dallas. And their Defense is playing top notch as well. This is possibly the best GB has played all year. 

Cowboys have looked very beatable lately. Excluding the Lion game, their recent wins were won by a margin of one score, versus earlier in the season when they were winning by on average 12 or so points if I remember correctly. That includes games against the Vikings and Buccaneers who are mediocre teams. In fact, if you look a the Cowboy's resume, it's not that impressive. Who have they beaten? Besides the Packers at their worst point of the season, and the Steelers which was a very impressive win, they really haven't beaten anyone but a bunch of mediocre teams. Similar to the Lions actually

Points taken...

I noticed that many are using Dallas losing to NY twice and GB beating NY,  but Dallas beating GB isn't relavent?  Imo, none of the previous games are that relevant.....division games are a whole different animal, and none of the teams are the same as they were on those given Sundays.

To me it comes down to a few key things....

Will Dallas be able to control the LOS and TOP?.....everyone knows Zekes comin.....can GB stop him?

Can Dallas contain Rodgers?  A tall task indeed.....if Jordy can't play it hurts GB, but he was out almost entire NY game.

Who's defense steps up and makes a few game changing plays?.....imo, people are underating Dallas' D, who has found a pass rush late in the season, and played very strong down the stretch.....Irving took the 4th Q over against the Lions....healthy, rested Sean Lee should have double digit tackles easily.....Lee's importance cannot be overstated....and Dallas' secondary is really coming on strong with a good mix of vet experience and youthful talent......I don't know a lot about GB's D, but they played well against NY......although NY didn't do themselves any favors with some bad drops.

Will the rest help or hurt Dallas?......my gut says it's going to help tremendously.....Tyron, Collins get extra time to mend, Free, Witten, Carr can rest their bones......this isnt a team that faded away at the end.....they have better depth and talent to withstand a full season and playoff run.

How will Dak and Zeke respond to a tense playoff atmosphere?.......well, I'm convinced Dak has ice water running through his veins....like I've said before, I expected him to falter over the course of the season, or at least look like a rookie......he convinced me that he is a special player, and a very good NFL QB...Russell Wilsonesque even.....rookie or not, I don't think it matters....he's playing for his teammates and his mother....dude will be laser focused......As for Zeke, just feed him the rock baby!  I think he's gonna break a couple big ones....

Who steps up big?  Ty Montgomery?  Clay Mathews?  Dez Bryant? Cole Beasley? Randall Cobb?  The Senator?  The Dallas rushmen?  GB rushmen?........homer pick, but I'm gonna say that Dez has a big day.....ever since he came back from injury he's looked a lil better each week.....he's sort of been forgotten in this matchup, imo, but he is easily the best WR in this game, and potentially a huge headache for GB.

Ultimately, I think Dallas has a more complete team....Rodgers is the best player in the matchup, but that's ok......Dallas has plenty of talent, they just have to execute.

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

playoffs baby

Maybe the Packers can take motivation from the Fritz Schurmur incident.

 

[Interseptopus]

Points taken...

I noticed that many are using Dallas losing to NY twice and GB beating NY,  but Dallas beating GB isn't relavent?  Imo, none of the previous games are that relevant.....division games are a whole different animal, and none of the teams are the same as they were on those given Sundays.

To me it comes down to a few key things....

Will Dallas be able to control the LOS and TOP?.....everyone knows Zekes comin.....can GB stop him?

Can Dallas contain Rodgers?  A tall task indeed.....if Jordy can't play it hurts GB, but he was out almost entire NY game.

Who's defense steps up and makes a few game changing plays?.....imo, people are underating Dallas' D, who has found a pass rush late in the season, and played very strong down the stretch.....Irving took the 4th Q over against the Lions....healthy, rested Sean Lee should have double digit tackles easily.....Lee's importance cannot be overstated....and Dallas' secondary is really coming on strong with a good mix of vet experience and youthful talent......I don't know a lot about GB's D, but they played well against NY......although NY didn't do themselves any favors with some bad drops.

Will the rest help or hurt Dallas?......my gut says it's going to help tremendously.....Tyron, Collins get extra time to mend, Free, Witten, Carr can rest their bones......this isnt a team that faded away at the end.....they have better depth and talent to withstand a full season and playoff run.

How will Dak and Zeke respond to a tense playoff atmosphere?.......well, I'm convinced Dak has ice water running through his veins....like I've said before, I expected him to falter over the course of the season, or at least look like a rookie......he convinced me that he is a special player, and a very good NFL QB...Russell Wilsonesque even.....rookie or not, I don't think it matters....he's playing for his teammates and his mother....dude will be laser focused......As for Zeke, just feed him the rock baby!  I think he's gonna break a couple big ones....

Who steps up big?  Ty Montgomery?  Clay Mathews?  Dez Bryant? Cole Beasley? Randall Cobb?  The Senator?  The Dallas rushmen?  GB rushmen?........homer pick, but I'm gonna say that Dez has a big day.....ever since he came back from injury he's looked a lil better each week.....he's sort of been forgotten in this matchup, imo, but he is easily the best WR in this game, and potentially a huge headache for GB.

Ultimately, I think Dallas has a more complete team....Rodgers is the best player in the matchup, but that's ok......Dallas has plenty of talent, they just have to execute.

I never use this line of reasoning. If Team A beats Team B and Team B beats Team C, it does not mean that Team A beats Team C. Actually in this case Team C beat Team A as you point out.

You mention that Dallas' D is underestimated because they've been playing better lately. So has GB's defense. It will be interesting to see which defense cracks. My guess is GB just because I'm pessimistic about GB's defense all the time (I got tired of being disappointed so if I set the bar low then I'm never disappointed). 

Dallas' offense has actually looked pretty slow the last month of the year. I really think the rest hurts them. It gets them healthy yes, which holds value. Meanwhile GB is going in with Jordy banged up. Consider this, GB has averaged about 33 points per game since December started. Dallas 21... and that includes an outlier in Detroit... (16 points without the DET game)

It'll be a fun game regardless. 

 

 

[Interseptopus]

Yeah, I'm aware of that. That's why I'm not bragging about how good they are

GB's run D is underrated, ranked 8th overall which is nothing to scoff at. But yes, they gave up big games in the second quarter of the season. They haven't had a true test of a top notch RB since around that time but they have seemed to do better. One could say the same about Dallas... the only good rushing team they faced was PIT. Dallas is excellent vs the run this year (1st) but bottom 10 percent against the pass. That's already not a great matchup because GB doesn't rely on the running game.

I've said in here earlier that GB doesn't have to shut Zeke down, rather control the tempo and script of the game. Like I said, they have averaged 33 points per game over the last 6 weeks. If Dallas can hold them to below 20 or so they will win. If GB gets up by 14-17 points early then Dallas will have to throw more than they usually would. That isn't working to Dallas' advantage. 

The last time these teams met GB never led in scoring. If Dallas can keep that from happening they should be able to come out on top. 
 

 

 

[Dan Lambskin]

Romo will be under Center at some point on Sunday, Win lose or draw.

I don't believe a draw is an option in the playoffs 

 

[Dezbelief]

Cute to take the two games from the worst stretch of GB's season... their run D is way different than it was when they faced either of those teams months ago

GB was the #1 run defense the 1st time Zeke faced them.

 

[Interseptopus]

GB was the #1 run defense the 1st time Zeke faced them.

I don't believe this is exactly true but they were top 3 at the time, yes. If you read my other posts you'll see that I conceded that Zeke won't be stuffed this weekend but rather it's up to GB to dictate game script in order to stop him. Last time GB played DAL in the playoffs, Dallas was #2 in rushing offense, GB was 23rd against the run. GB gave up 120+ yards to Murray at 4.9 YPC. They still won. Point being, you can't count on the run solely to beat GB. And I don't think Dak can beat them (IMHO)

I would actually be interested to see how often this year Dallas has been playing from behind > 1 score

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

GB was the #1 run defense the 1st time Zeke faced them.

And was that run defense, their rating built up the previous four weeks, the same defense that built that rating, or was it different based upon injuries?

Green Bay has an uneven run defense, occasionally very good, occasionally bad, and you will see both in any one game or any one drive.  Dallas is a consistently good to excellent run offense with less noticeable fluctuations of performance play to play.  Green Bay is going to need to force 5 Dallas punts and at least 1 turnover to win. That gives Dallas 26 points on 2 T.D.'s and 4 F.G. (6 scoring drives, 5 punts, and 1 turnover) The Packers will need to score at least 3 T.D.'s on their scoring drives, which, without Nelson are likely to be 5 scoring drives, one less than home team Dallas.  I think Green Bay will make this happen.

I find Dallas slightly more likely to score in their return game.  With the Rookie factor I find Dallas slightly more likely to turn the ball over.

I have this 27 to 26, G.B. 

 

[Cowboysfan8]

I don't think they will stop Zeke. I think they will contain him best they can, forcing Dak to beat them. I really don't think Dak can beat GB by himself; Zeke is what carries that team. If you can contain him and make him just average, then Dak has to beat them through the air. 

Part of containing Zeke is by dictating the game script. If the Packers can get up by 2 scores early, Dallas will not abandon the run but they will have to pass more than they probably like to in order to catch up. That works to GBs advantage. 

GB has a pretty poor pass defense, but they are getting healthy this week. Rollins may be back, which is huge. They just held OBJ to 30 something yards without their best  (maybe second best) corner. 

Cowboysfan likes to reference that Dallas ran for 191 yards at their last meeting... GB only gave up 247 passing yards that game. That's one of their top 5 performances vs the pass this season (and they were without Rollins that game I believe). So it's very possible that GB can contain Dak if they stack the box vs Zeke. The GB offense is playing WAY better than when they faced Dallas. And their Defense is playing top notch as well. This is possibly the best GB has played all year. 

Cowboys have looked very beatable lately. Excluding the Lion game, their recent wins were won by a margin of one score, versus earlier in the season when they were winning by on average 12 or so points if I remember correctly. That includes games against the Vikings and Buccaneers who are mediocre teams. In fact, if you look a the Cowboy's resume, it's not that impressive. Who have they beaten? Besides the Packers at their worst point of the season, and the Steelers which was a very impressive win, they really haven't beaten anyone but a bunch of mediocre teams. Similar to the Lions actually

I only referenced what Zeke did last time when I was trying to point out that GB is ranked 8th against the run, but has only faced good running teams a few times. And those few teams had success against them.

I never posted that I thought he would do again this week. Even though I think he may

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

I only referenced what Zeke did last time when I was trying to point out that GB is ranked 8th against the run, but has only faced good running teams a few times. And those few teams had success against them.

I never posted that I thought he would do again this week. Even though I think he may

You may also, fairly, have pointed out that the Packers missed some R.B.'s on their schedule due to injury.  Off the top of my head I believe Jacksonville, Minnesota, Atlanta, The Giants and Detroit all had injuries there when they faced the Packers. (I no longer stand behind recollections)

 

[Dezbelief]

I would actually be interested to see how often this year Dallas has been playing from behind > 1 score

Excluding week 17 and quickly going through box scores and a couple play by plays. It looks like Dallas has been down by multiple scores twice and won both games.

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

Excluding week 17 and quickly going through box scores and a couple play by plays. It looks like Dallas has been down by multiple scores twice and won both games.

Strong.

 

[Interseptopus]

Excluding week 17 and quickly going through box scores and a couple play by plays. It looks like Dallas has been down by multiple scores twice and won both games.

Thanks for doing that. I didn't have the time considering all the other stat digging I was doing. Interesting. On one hand they haven't been down much at all this year (a mark of a good team, yes), on the other they came back and won both games which is pretty impressive. 

 

[Dezbelief]

Thanks for doing that. I didn't have the time considering all the other stat digging I was doing. Interesting. On one hand they haven't been down much at all this year (a mark of a good team, yes), on the other they came back and won both games which is pretty impressive. 

The bad one team was SF, Dallas was down 14-0 in the 2nd quarter. The other team was Pittsburgh 12-3 in the 1st. In that game the Steelers had a go ahead TD with 43 seconds left. It took Dallas 28 seconds to score again.

 

[Interseptopus]

The bad one team was SF, Dallas was down 14-0 in the 2nd quarter. The other team was Pittsburgh 12-3 in the 1st. In that game the Steelers had a go ahead TD with 43 seconds left. It took Dallas 28 seconds to score again.

I've dogged on Dallas' resume in this thread earlier, but I would say that their win vs the Steelers is quite a convincing case. Even better that they were down in that game and won at the very end. I see two scenarios for this game: GB comes out and gets ahead early and Dallas just looks slow, inexperienced, and just not up to the task. GB wins by 2+ scores. Or Dallas runs and passes all over GBs defense. GB does it's best job to keep within striking distance but never gets within 10 points of Dallas. GB is either awesome or terrible. No in between it seems. Regardless I am fairly convinced the super bowl winner comes out of this game. The momentum that either team will gain by beating a formidable opponent will be tough to slow. It's the same reason I think whoever wins KC/PIT goes on to the super bowl 

 

[ourmanflint]

Thanks for doing that. I didn't have the time considering all the other stat digging I was doing. Interesting. On one hand they haven't been down much at all this year (a mark of a good team, yes), on the other they came back and won both games which is pretty impressive. 

They were also down 10 points to the Eagles early in the 4th quarter and came back to win in overtime.

 

[FUBAR]

Thanks for doing that. I didn't have the time considering all the other stat digging I was doing. Interesting. On one hand they haven't been down much at all this year (a mark of a good team, yes), on the other they came back and won both games which is pretty impressive. 

The Cowboys didn't abandon the run even when they're behind.  GB can try to "dictate the script" all they want but the boys don't bite.  Zeke will just have to score more quickly.

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

Cowboys should be saucy going in.  Better record, less injuries, at home, and rested.  Packers are being held together with chewing gum and baling wire.

The Packers hope is that the great weight of expectations proves too heavy for an inexperienced Q.B., their coach, their owner and their fans, and that the environment turns toxic.  How will the Cowboys handle an early special teams break, a T.O. or a bad call.

If I am the Cowboys I put this thing on the O-line and Jason Whitten.

 

[G-King]

They were also down 10 points to the Eagles early in the 4th quarter and came back to win in overtime.

^this was their best comeback of the year. Rookies never panicked, and Dak should have made all the doubters step back a bit. He was ice cold in that comeback.

 

[Interseptopus]

Cowboys should be saucy going in.  Better record, less injuries, at home, and rested.  Packers are being held together with chewing gum and baling wire.

The Packers hope is that the great weight of expectations proves too heavy for an inexperienced Q.B., their coach, their owner and their fans, and that the environment turns toxic.  How will the Cowboys handle an early special teams break, a T.O. or a bad call.

If I am the Cowboys I put this thing on the O-line and Jason Whitten.

This is a pretty accurate assessment of where both of these teams are coming from. Dallas has no excuses if they lose this game. They should win, but if they don't it's because of the above factors.

I agree with the OL/Witten being the key. Witten should have a big game and if the OL can play how they are capable it should be rather easy for Dallas to get ahead and stay ahead.  

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

This is a pretty accurate assessment of where both of these teams are coming from. Dallas has no excuses if they lose this game. They should win, but if they don't it's because of the above factors.

I agree with the OL/Witten being the key. Witten should have a big game and if the OL can play how they are capable it should be rather easy for Dallas to get ahead and stay ahead.  

I am a hopeful Packer fan, but not an overconfident one.  As currently situated I give the Cowboys about a 7 out of 10 chance of winning.  The puncher's chance as it were is enough for me.  I would like to see the matchup with Nelson, Lacy, Shields, and a healthy Rollins, but that is not the hand dealt.  So be it.

I remember the Ice Bowl.  The Packers were a shell of their former self.  Dallas was younger, stronger, better. The Packers were wounded.  The Packers had to win on character and guts.  Those types of wins are extra sweet.  A win here this weekend would be extra sweet.  It would mean overcoming. I am looking forward, even though I understand my heart may be broken.  For me a Dallas win will mean putting up with the likes of Jerry Jones and Skip Baylis crowing. Say what you will about Packer fans, at least when we win other teams do not have to put up with our owner crowing, since we don't have a single owner.

Anyhow, good luck to both teams and fan bases. 

For the record I do have the Packers Winning 27 to 26 on a last minute drive.  I do think the Cowboys might find the weight of expectations too heavy.  

 

[Interseptopus]

I am a hopeful Packer fan, but not an overconfident one.  As currently situated I give the Cowboys about a 7 out of 10 chance of winning.  The puncher's chance as it were is enough for me.  I would like to see the matchup with Nelson, Lacy, Shields, and a healthy Rollins, but that is not the hand dealt.  So be it.

I remember the Ice Bowl.  The Packers were a shell of their former self.  Dallas was younger, stronger, better. The Packers were wounded.  The Packers had to win on character and guts.  Those types of wins are extra sweet.  A win here this weekend would be extra sweet.  It would mean overcoming. I am looking forward, even though I understand my heart may be broken.  For me a Dallas win will mean putting up with the likes of Jerry Jones and Skip Baylis crowing. Say what you will about Packer fans, at least when we win other teams do not have to put up with our owner crowing, since we don't have a single owner.

Anyhow, good luck to both teams and fan bases. 

For the record I do have the Packers Winning 27 to 26 on a last minute drive.  I do think the Cowboys might find the weight of expectations too heavy.  

I'm one to crow just a little when we win vs teams I can't stand... and I'm an owner  However even though I don't really like the Cowboys because of the history in the 90s, I am not one to find this as a scenario to crow if they win. Seattle, Minnesota, New England, and Chicago yeah maybe that's a different story...

I agree though, probably 7/10 times in this scenario Dallas wins this game. I will clarify that I don't think this will be an easy game for either team, but I do feel like Dallas should find it relatively easy to run their offense/score at will, get ahead and stay ahead

I kind of agree with you regarding the expectations will be too much for the Cowboys' inexperience, but their rookies haven't shown any signs of cracking under pressure all season so I'm not entirely confident in that. I do look at Dallas' schedule and I'm not real convinced they played anyone of significance aside from GB when they were playing terrible and PIT where they were given a good fight. All things considered this just seems like a classic GB let down game- Monday morning we will be saying that they had a chance to win it but one mistake or a bad call or a bad bounce was the difference in the game. Great teams overcome those factors to win. Others use them as excuses. 

I'm quite pleased at how far Green Bay has made it already given their injuries and how they looked destined for a top 15 pick in the draft at about week 5. Back then no GB fan was talking about the Super Bowl; we were all saying fire McCarthy. Now most of my patients are talking about Super Bowl... I'm a little more reserved in that but it's funny how fans (myself included) have done a complete 180. Super Bowl is reasonable, but this is the biggest test GB will face in the entire playoffs IMO

 

[dansav]

No I didn't forget anyone.  GB has the best QB in football.       That's more clear to me than ever.  I shudder to think what Rodgers would do with a coach like Belichick.  

Ask Steve Smith.  He played at a high level in the league.  What do we know we are just arm chair QBs right?

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

I'm one to crow just a little when we win vs teams I can't stand... and I'm an owner  However even though I don't really like the Cowboys because of the history in the 90s, I am not one to find this as a scenario to crow if they win. Seattle, Minnesota, New England, and Chicago yeah maybe that's a different story...

I agree though, probably 7/10 times in this scenario Dallas wins this game. I will clarify that I don't think this will be an easy game for either team, but I do feel like Dallas should find it relatively easy to run their offense/score at will, get ahead and stay ahead

I kind of agree with you regarding the expectations will be too much for the Cowboys' inexperience, but their rookies haven't shown any signs of cracking under pressure all season so I'm not entirely confident in that. I do look at Dallas' schedule and I'm not real convinced they played anyone of significance aside from GB when they were playing terrible and PIT where they were given a good fight. All things considered this just seems like a classic GB let down game- Monday morning we will be saying that they had a chance to win it but one mistake or a bad call or a bad bounce was the difference in the game. Great teams overcome those factors to win. Others use them as excuses. 

I'm quite pleased at how far Green Bay has made it already given their injuries and how they looked destined for a top 15 pick in the draft at about week 5. Back then no GB fan was talking about the Super Bowl; we were all saying fire McCarthy. Now most of my patients are talking about Super Bowl... I'm a little more reserved in that but it's funny how fans (myself included) have done a complete 180. Super Bowl is reasonable, but this is the biggest test GB will face in the entire playoffs IMO

We are pretty much in agreement.  I do note that I was not one wanting McCarthy's job, or Thompson's or Capers.  I defended then the job they have done and were doing.  I continue to do so. 

 

[G-King]

I am a hopeful Packer fan, but not an overconfident one.  As currently situated I give the Cowboys about a 7 out of 10 chance of winning.  The puncher's chance as it were is enough for me.  I would like to see the matchup with Nelson, Lacy, Shields, and a healthy Rollins, but that is not the hand dealt.  So be it.

I remember the Ice Bowl.  The Packers were a shell of their former self.  Dallas was younger, stronger, better. The Packers were wounded.  The Packers had to win on character and guts.  Those types of wins are extra sweet.  A win here this weekend would be extra sweet.  It would mean overcoming. I am looking forward, even though I understand my heart may be broken.  For me a Dallas win will mean putting up with the likes of Jerry Jones and Skip Baylis crowing. Say what you will about Packer fans, at least when we win other teams do not have to put up with our owner crowing, since we don't have a single owner.

Anyhow, good luck to both teams and fan bases. 

For the record I do have the Packers Winning 27 to 26 on a last minute drive.  I do think the Cowboys might find the weight of expectations too heavy.  

For the record, EVERYONE in Texas hates Skip Bayless. POS

 

[Concept Coop]

^this was their best comeback of the year. Rookies never panicked, and Dak should have made all the doubters step back a bit. He was ice cold in that comeback.

Not really.  IIRC, they went 1 of 4 to close regulation, with 3x 3-and-outs.  The OT drive was nice, but if things had gone the other way--as they easily could have--Dak's play would have been a big part of that.  Philly lost that game more than Dallas won it. 

 

[Interseptopus]

We are pretty much in agreement.  I do note that I was not one wanting McCarthy's job, or Thompson's or Capers.  I defended then the job they have done and were doing.  I continue to do so. 

Yeah I can sheepishly admit that I've come full circle. Next year I'll get back on that carousel no doubt! 

For the record, EVERYONE in Texas hates Skip Bayless. POS

Ok this is one thing we can all agree on, that is wonderful. How does he have a job if so many people can't stand him though? 

 

[Concept Coop]

Cowboys fan.  My head says Dallas by a TD+.  My gut says GB close and late.  

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

For the record, EVERYONE in Texas hates Skip Bayless. POS

That makes me respect Texans.  I apologize if I besmirched you all with reference to him.  I am going to mark this as that thing I learned today, as in "learn something new everyday".

 

[msudaisy26]

Cowboys fan.  My head says Dallas by a TD+.  My gut says GB close and late.  

Not a Cowboys or Packers fan, but this is where I am at right now. Last week I was confident in the Packers by a touchdown or more, but no Jordy in the game brings it back down for me.

 

[G-King]

Yeah I can sheepishly admit that I've come full circle. Next year I'll get back on that carousel no doubt! 

Ok this is one thing we can all agree on, that is wonderful. How does he have a job if so many people can't stand him though? 

Why did Jerry Springer have a show for so long? People love to watch train wrecks on TV

 

[msudaisy26]

I have a feeling Jordy will play... 

If he does I suspect it will be more of a decoy thing like Megatron would do when he was hurt. Guess it depends on how hurt and if Dallas buys the decoy thing.