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Starting December for ATL:
Good posting except on the McCarthy part. Yes he is a good if not great coach that does make good adjustments but I still think back to back runs on their 2nd to last drive was bad playcalling. McCarthy went conservative against the Seahawks 2 years ago and did the same on that drive. It would be different if the Packers weren't so banged up on defense but running the ball to milk the clock and set up a FG isn't the correct play the way the Cowboys offense was rolling. To me that's taking the ball out of the best player on the planet's hands. I'm happy they won and will give McCarthy a ton of credit for holding this team together. I just think that series was not one of his better moments just like the 4th quarter against the Seahawks.
post game interview Rodgers said something that I thought really spoke to his calmness; he was thinking about his breathing during the last drive. Obviously they're taught to control their emotions, if possible (see OBJ). It was interesting to see him first speak to his breathing and staying calm and the first thing on his mind. That's awesome. I cannot say I've ever seen Rodgers let his emotions get the best of him in the game. I think some players may be a bit drained but it's easy to get fired back up for a chance to go to a super bowl.
Not sure how it shook out in the end, but I believe GB had the easiest schedule in the NFL this year. Of those 5 wins, weren't 3 of them against the Lions?
I didn't see it as conservative (though, would have liked to see AR maybe get out of that call with seeing how Dallas was lined up). Seemed more to be trying to get into a 3rd and short vs where they were. Could have been done with the short passing game they had used well to.
No...only played the Lions twice.
Pre-season rankings yes GB was slated to have the easiest schedule, but that's based on preseason rankings. For example, I don't know of anyone who predicted the Panthers to be that bad this year. Or New Orleans. As it stands after the fact, Atlanta had one of the easier divisions this year. Not easiest by any means, but easier compared to others in the league. GB played more playoff teams this year than Atlanta. 2 more actually. And GB did not play the worst division in the NFL this season NFC West) as ATL did.
Yeah I believe they had the most wins against playoff teams than each of the other playoff teams did. That's why looking at strength of schedule at the beginning of the year is stupid.
Huh? I heard mostly Rodgers talk...
My favorite comment from his twitter feed: "
Prescott was the better QB during the first meeting at Lambeau. There's no question he's a great acquisition for the Cowboys. The hard part is doing it consistently over a career.To be fair I don't think I ever said they were gonna win it but I liked their chances. My boy Dak went toe-to-toe with A-A-Ron Rod-Gers and almost pulled it off.
For some reason, I thought they beat the Lions in the first round and that was being counted. Obviously was way off on that.
Lots of missed calls. There was a blatant hold on Matthews late in the game too that was missed. Overall I thought the refs did a poor job. I also believe Green Bay outplayed Dallas. So the right team won.
I never said that. I don't know if you just can't read or are just stuck in a high school mentality where a guy has to be just good or bad and nothing else is considered. His "greatness" can be questioned. I've been watching football for over 30 years so I'm old enough to not anoint someone as "good" just after one season. I said he played better than I expected and that I wanted to see more. The stars aligned for Dak this season...I worry that the leagues easiest schedule, having a running game like he had, like 5 other players on offense who are top 5 at their position, an element of surprise, a near injury free supporting cast will never happen again. With all of those things in his favor he played well. I don't know what more you want from me. I consider it all. To me, he's the best thing since, well, RG3's rookie year.
That's the only 2 options huh? That's how a teenager thinks. There's guys on all of my "rivals" teams that I love to watch play. Butt hurt from 21 years makes more sense though...JFC
The questions all this week will be about how to stop him etc. IMO he had a similar effect on the way Dallas called their game on offense. When he starts moving and putting up points, or long drives it's only natural to feel you have to match it. After a couple short drives or FG's on your end and he's in the endzone twice and everyone is marveling at how he did it, it starts to affect everyone. The pressure is already on Atlanta as the 2 seed and playing at home. I just don't see a blowout.
No. There isn't going to be a blowout. Both of these teams have the horsepower to storm back into a lopsided game. Neither has the defense to prevent a late surge by the other.
That was a huge play if I'm thinking of the same play you're referencing. I believe it was like 2nd and 25 and Dak completed the 23 yard pass to Dez
I guess there's a 3rd option... maybe that person also just doesn't watch football or didn't watch the GB/Dallas game
Right. I must not watch football or even the game if my opinion differs from others. Time will tell with Dak....you and others think he's good/great after a single season. I'd like to see more.
lol, nice discussion. I hope you're enjoying your day off school today, but make sure you get your homework done before turning on the Xbox!
I think he had an excellent season and I see no reason to doubt that he won't take the steps he needs to in order to continue to be great. I am one that really feels rookie QBs who have great 1st seasons have a big regression year 2. Mostly because teams know the schtick now. Usually it's with running QBs though (Kaep, Vick, etc). year 2 is usually worse than year 1. Dak I think just has "it." He is not a gimmick QB. I see no reason he can't take that next step. If he doesn't, then yes he will not succeed. He needs to be better than he was yesterday, however he went point for point with one of, if not the, best all around QB to ever play the game. That's saying something, for any QB, especially a rookie.
FYI....you feel EXACTLY the same way as I do about him. I never once, ever, said he was a bad QB. I only pointed outa combination of things he had working in his favor this season, that I don't anticipate ever being there again. With that being said, I just want to see more of him. Somehow that is taken as he is "bad" or that I'm questioning his greatness or taking away from what he did. There is literally no arguing around the circumstances he had going in his favor. There's just too many to ignore IMO.
To save you some of the reading they had Dak as the 13th best player on his own team. Again, this isn't a knock just where they had him. Did he get better and better? Sure did. Did he have a lot of help? It's undeniable.
Your response "they are the best ever" reminded me exactly of my 12 year old son whining about not getting something he wants, which is the reason for my comment. It should be obvious that a poor quality still shot of an OL blocking is completely useless in judging whether or not there was a hold. If Lang immediately disengages, its not holding. Complaining about missed calls is lame. Packer fans do it as much as anyone - its for losers.
Dak first season- 67.8% comp, 3,667 yards, 23 TDs, 4 INTs, 104.9 passer rating
Yeah I think that's a fair assessment. I was most impressed with the fact that he just didn't look like a Rookie in his first NFL playoff game. He made crisp throws and played pretty well. Where I think his inexperienced showed the most is the exact reason I think Dallas lost the game: They had to spike the ball at the end of the game instead of letting Dak command the offense from the line of scrimmage (or maybe it was his inexperience that led to him spiking it, who knows). That mistake cost them and extra shot at the end zone and gave Rodgers the time he needed to get into FG range.
I was refering to their respective seasons at age 23.
Keep laughing. For all you know Dak has already peaked. Look, Russell Wilson was going to rule the world too. Then his contract happened.
This is very interesting
He very well may have. I happen to think Dallas has a bright future ahead of him, but lately very young QBs with very early success haven't really done well in the long run. I'm sure someone will come up with some QB who is doing awesome but all the QBs I can think of aren't doing that awesome
And ironically, things started to change around him. Injuries to him, OL leaving and getting hurt, division getting stronger, RB's retiring and getting hurt, DC's learning about him etc.
Just to be the Devil's advocate here I will argue differently. Green Bay's defense was gassed, they needed some recovery time. Green Bay's offensive line had started to wear down and Aaron was getting pressured. Dallas was teeing off with a pass rush because the Packers were showing little else. There was a lot of time on the clock, a quick strike score was going to be a problem if Dallas had a lot of time left. Tired O-linemen sometimes hold on pass plays which moves teams back and stops the clock, an unacceptable result. The Packers had shown a few very nice rushes in the game. Calling a play similar to Ty's great run against Chicago was not a bad call. It was not settling for the field goal at that time, it was an attempt to catch Dallas a bit off guard, run a bit of clock, improve worse case outcomes for a filed goal if it had to be kicked, but was really just an attempt to keep the drive going. Aaron cannot throw literally every play. That is not good strategy even when they have Jordy and Bulaga isn't gimpy. The problem was not the play call, it was the piss poor execution. But for the Cowboy slicing through unblocked it is a good call. Maybe time to ask what would have happened had the same player sliced through on a pass call. Maybe a sack for even more lost yardage, maybe a strip sack which we nearly saw on the next drive from a much smaller defender.
No one is talking about this at all.
That's what I mean, the only constant is change. Dallas' line will start to get paid, Dez could freak at any moment, Witten can't play until he's 50 (can he the guy still looks 23). Things come together and fall apart all the time in the NFL>
Yes. But you can't discount what paying a guy 20MM does to a cap either. Dak and Dallas won't have to worry about that for a while but it will come.
I don't know how anyone could have watched him at any point this season and say he's not a good QB... i knew from the first drive of the first game he was legit. And neither is riding either's coattails. They would both be great on other teams, they are just good football players.
We're all Tanner aliaseseses. This board is just one big conversation with himself.
is this a tanner alias?
Well, Zeke undoubtedly benefits from a great OL... Put Zeke on LA and I'm not sure he does as well as Gurley does. Put Gurley on Dallas and he is probably producing even better than Zeke (being a better pass threat).
Let's just agree to disagree on this one. I just don't like back to back runs with the best player in the league at QB. I'm not saying they need to throw deep but on that play the defense was packed in tight ready to stop the run. Why not a quick hitter to the outside? It was crunch time and I'd rather go down with Rodgers winging it. They really needed a TD on that drive and were fortunate Crosby drilled a 56 yard FG. Had that not happened I guarantee McCarthy's getting crucified today for those particular play calls. Fortunately it worked out for the Green and Gold.
