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DNC Leaks...official thread (8 Viewers)

Oh boy.   So after months of hoping the E-Mail Fairy would down Clinton's campaign, now it's going to be the WikiLeaks Fairy. 

Stop trying to make fetch happen. 

 
wdcrob said:
Only with people with unrealistic expectations of a political campaign or people supporting Trump.  Most people aren't going to give it a second thought.
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I don't understand this...my post had nothing to do with trump supporters...are you saying Bernie supporters should not feel betrayed by the DNC leaks and should simply vote for Hillary?

 
I wanted Bernie to beat Hillary, but this email dump doesn't really affect me one way or another. Because it isn't really news to me. Anyone shocked that a DNC headed by and loaded with longtime Clinton allies favored her over a guy that wasn't even a Democrat before this cycle probably can't tell their own butt from a hole in the ground.

 
Boston said:
I don't understand this...my post had nothing to do with trump supporters...are you saying Bernie supporters should not feel betrayed by the DNC leaks and should simply vote for Hillary?
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I'm saying only Trump supporters and a handful of Sanders people will talk about this if Sanders gets up and tells everyone to move past it. 

 
wdcrob said:
I'm saying only Trump supporters and a handful of Sanders people will talk about this if Sanders gets up and tells everyone to move past it. 
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thats because you would rather sweep  it under the rug and not confront it head on...i see that as convenience born of  cowardice 

 
BustedKnuckles said:
thats because you would rather sweep  it under the rug and not confront it head on...i see that as convenience born of  cowardice 
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You do not understand. There is nothing to sweep. This is just more right wing misogamist attacks railing about nothing like Benghazi!!!!!!!!

 
Boston said:
Meaning after running his campaign he simply slinks right back into the arms of the establishment that screwed him...gotta believe he loses a lot of credibility with that move as well as letting down those who were fighting for him...
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Those fighting for Bernie already seem more upset than Sanders himself.  Or at least more upset than what Bernie's letting on.  And you're right that a lot of Sanders supporters lost respect for Bernie when he endorsed Clinton, and they'll lose even more respect for him if he continues to tell them to back the establishment candidate, Clinton, who the establishment conspired to fix the race for.

Loads of articles appearing showing pissed off Sanders supporters already taking to the streets in Philly...

Bernie Sanders Backers March Against Hillary Clinton in Philadelphia (New York Times)

PHILADELPHIA — A large, impassioned crowd of Bernie Sanderssupporters — chanting “Hell, no, D.N.C., we won’t vote for Hillary” — marched on Sunday afternoon to the site of the Democratic National Convention, promising a week in which the party’s divisions will be on vivid display in the streets.

 
More than 1,000 people from as far as Seattle and Florida participated in the first of what are expected to be many Sanders rallies during the convention, which formally begins Monday. The march, led by a banner proclaiming “Help End Establishment Politics, Vote No on Hillary,” was far larger than any of the protest marches last week in Cleveland at the Republican National Convention.

 
BustedKnuckles said:
thats because you would rather sweep  it under the rug and not confront it head on...i see that as convenience born of  cowardice 
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:shrug:

If it's 60% Trump supporters now, and 30% Sanders supporters who've already said they won't vote for Clinton -- why would it get worse once Sanders speaks?

 
Aerial Assault said:
No one in the country outside of self-styled politicos and the Right Wing Noise Machine (including people who would already never have voted for Clinton) cares for one second who chairs the DNC, whether some DNC members (gasp) preferred Clinton to Sanders, or anything else.  This has zero impact on the election.     
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This story is all that CNN, MSNBC and Fox have been talking about all day.  I've been stuck in a hotel room with nothing better to do than watch cable news.

 
Aerial Assault said:
Oh boy.   So after months of hoping the E-Mail Fairy would down Clinton's campaign, now it's going to be the WikiLeaks Fairy. 

Stop trying to make fetch happen. 
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Have you looked at any polling data recently?  Hillary would be the most unpopular candidate in modern history if she wasn't running against Orange Hitler.  The email thing seems to have knee-capped her.

 
IvanKaramazov said:
Have you looked at any polling data recently?  Hillary would be the most unpopular candidate in modern history if she wasn't running against Orange Hitler.  The email thing seems to have knee-capped her.
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She'll be back. 

I wrote that the Comey thing would give her a bad two weeks. That plus the cop shootings in Dallas allowed Trump to appeal to law and order at his convention. 

But this isn't 1968. I don't believe that most Americans are scared enough to buy into Trump's bull crap (I hope not). Things will start to change this coming week.

 
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timschochet said:
She'll be back. 
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Back where?  Her numbers have been in the toilet for months, not weeks.

I agree with you that she'll win because Trump is wretched.  But I'm starting to get slightly less confident about that if for no other reason than Clintons continued horrible campaigning.  But you're right that she can potentially nail things down a bit this week.

 
Gary Coal Man said:
Those fighting for Bernie already seem more upset than Sanders himself.  Or at least more upset than what Bernie's letting on.  And you're right that a lot of Sanders supporters lost respect for Bernie when he endorsed Clinton, and they'll lose even more respect for him if he continues to tell them to back the establishment candidate, Clinton, who the establishment conspired to fix the race for.

Loads of articles appearing showing pissed off Sanders supporters already taking to the streets in Philly...

Bernie Sanders Backers March Against Hillary Clinton in Philadelphia (New York Times)

PHILADELPHIA — A large, impassioned crowd of Bernie Sanderssupporters — chanting “Hell, no, D.N.C., we won’t vote for Hillary” — marched on Sunday afternoon to the site of the Democratic National Convention, promising a week in which the party’s divisions will be on vivid display in the streets.

 
More than 1,000 people from as far as Seattle and Florida participated in the first of what are expected to be many Sanders rallies during the convention, which formally begins Monday. The march, led by a banner proclaiming “Help End Establishment Politics, Vote No on Hillary,” was far larger than any of the protest marches last week in Cleveland at the Republican National Convention.
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I actually understand the initial endorsement of Hildo...that's how politics works...with these leaks and the information of an organized effort to submarine him that puts this whole thing in a different category...especially for a guy who is supposed to be so principled...

 
So which is worse, being Jewish or being atheist?

Based on that email, the DNC was plotting to embarrass Bernie for one or the other, figuring southern Baptists in WV and KY (is this a dog whistle for Blacks?) would think less of him and vote for Hillary.

One way or another, the DNC was plotting to mock his religious beliefs.

Based on the OUTRAGE over 6-pointed triangle gate, I would expect at least some reaction from Democrats, other than sweeping this under the rug.

 
Boston said:
Meaning after running his campaign he simply slinks right back into the arms of the establishment that screwed him...gotta believe he loses a lot of credibility with that move as well as letting down those who were fighting for him...
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I don't think Bernie honestly feels this way, just based on how he ran his campaign. Just speculating, this feels like Hillary and Obama and the establishment muscling him behind the scenes into falling in line to show party unity. The pressure might just simply be bigger than anything Bernie can do himself at this point to act how he would like to in the media for getting railroaded.

 
Gucci Fur said:
So which is worse, being Jewish or being atheist?

Based on that email, the DNC was plotting to embarrass Bernie for one or the other, figuring southern Baptists in WV and KY (is this a dog whistle for Blacks?) would think less of him and vote for Hillary.

One way or another, the DNC was plotting to mock his religious beliefs.

Based on the OUTRAGE over 6-pointed triangle gate, I would expect at least some reaction from Democrats, other than sweeping this under the rug.
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Seems like someone brought it up and it was shot down

 
Not sure if it has been posted yet, but the DNC also had a database of Trump donors from may. An excel sheet with names, addresses, donation amounts, professions, etc.

Why would they have a file on Trump donors? Is that legal or ethical?

I would link it but that probably wouldn't be very appropriate. You can easily find with Google.

I didn't see SIDA or Eminence on the list.

 
Gucci Fur said:
Not sure if it has been posted yet, but the DNC also had a database of Trump donors from may. An excel sheet with names, addresses, donation amounts, professions, etc.

Why would they have a file on Trump donors? Is that legal or ethical?

I would link it but that probably wouldn't be very appropriate. You can easily find with Google.

I didn't see SIDA or Eminence on the list.
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It is public information.

 
DWS got run for this before she could have her crowning achievement of hosting the convention so that's good enough for me.

At the end of the day it likely would not have mattered but momentum could have built earlier which may have made it closer. End of the day the black vote inexplicably voting for Hillary was the big difference.

 
So this is how things work? Democrat National Committee has now been proven, through leaked emails, to have set up and paid for "protests" against Trump. Also proven to have stacked the deck against Bernie Sanders from the get go. You think Hitlary wasn't in on it?

Yup, this is how our political process works now. Nothing but corruption, lies, deceit, and criminal acts.

 
Gucci Fur said:
Where does one find donor info for current elections? I know you can find historical info, wasn't aware you can find data from last month.
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Not 100% sure nationally. The State of Idaho maintained a web site listing donations. The candidate has to report major donations relatively quickly. Honestly, I would have to research it again.

 
DWS is publicly shamed, stripped of her speech, forced to resign.

Her replacement, Donna Brazile, is booted several hours later after it is discovered in the leaked emails that she said she would "cuss out the Sanders camp!".

Third time is the charm. Marcia Fudge is the newest Chair of the DNC.

These clowns are on their third Chair and the convention hasn't even started.

:lmao:

 
BustedKnuckles said:
So this is how things work? Democrat National Committee has now been proven, through leaked emails, to have set up and paid for "protests" against Trump. Also proven to have stacked the deck against Bernie Sanders from the get go. You think Hitlary wasn't in on it?

Yup, this is how our political process works now. Nothing but corruption, lies, deceit, and criminal acts.
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They will refuse to acknowledge Hilary or anyone else associated with their party has done anything worth not voting for her.  Blind as hell and won't admit it. 

 
bagger said:
DWS got run for this before she could have her crowning achievement of hosting the convention so that's good enough for me.

At the end of the day it likely would not have mattered but momentum could have built earlier which may have made it closer. End of the day the black vote inexplicably voting for Hillary was the big difference.
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That's right.  It won't matter.  Her supporters will stand behind her no matter what.  Nothing will change that.  Nothing 

 
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