Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Holmes did post 15 in PPR leagues btw...very much in line with what his trend has been...and all QBs throw for less than 200 yds this week and no TDs, Big Ben will be the #1 QB 
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DO NOT SIT GUYS FOR WEATHER TONIGHT (1 Viewer)
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joffer
Footballguy
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
ummmmm...yummy!!!Actually Ben threw it quite a few times downfield. Holmes was groped about every time. Ron Winters was on top of the action all night...poor guy, how did he draw this game out of the hat?
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Did the wind prevent them from blocking? And no seperation by the WRs either...where did the wind play a factor? Seriously...Redd lined up to kick a 42 yd FG...he nailed the thing right down the middle with room to spare...where was this heavy wind?really unbelievable, even for MOP
i dunno man. Even with the season they've had, this game is a low point of the decade IMO. I'm not a steelers fan but follow the NFL very closely, and I seriously haven't seen them play this terribly. Even in all their terrible losses this year, they've put some points up, and have competed till the last play. This game, they were dominated from 1st to last play. By an extremely mediocre team. I can't recall a worse game from the powerhouse org that is the steelers in my lifetime, seriously. Their OC needs to be fired tonite, just terrible play calling. And their execution, on both D and O has never been this bad. WOW...
Phase of the Game
Footballguy
Is MOP related to LHUCKS?
joffer
Footballguy
at his backDid the wind prevent them from blocking? And no seperation by the WRs either...where did the wind play a factor? Seriously...Redd lined up to kick a 42 yd FG...he nailed the thing right down the middle with room to spare...where was this heavy wind?
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Fraternal twins
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Sepulveda managed a 42.5 yd punt avg on 8 punts...it really wasn't the wind, the Steelers are just the suxor and that's the way it is...6-7 doesn't lie.
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Sammy Traveller
Footballguy
i'm so glad I am on bye in my league where I have Big Ben. Hope he recovers next week.
Mr. Retukes
Footballguy
Um...ever try to run into the wind?
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Did the wind change so that Pitt was going into it each time they took the field? I posted about the FG and the response was the wind was at their back...its OK...more crow please, thanks.
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you're not very good at eating crow bro...go to sleep...
Mr. Retukes
Footballguy
JoeTall
Footballguy
When you are afraid the ball will sail on you; you hold it longer as you need higher % target. When you hold it longer, you get sacked.
editor47
Footballguy
while the wind may have affected the playcalling, i don't think it affected the steelers performance. maybe, maybe, you could make an excuse that the wind caught the ball on two of ben's passes, one deep down the middle to holmes in the first quarter (the ball actually went right between holmes' hands) and another to holmes where it looked like it might have taken the ball a little further to the sideline than he wanted it to go.
it went about the way i expected it to windwise. brady quinn was affected much more with his weak arm - the deep ball to MM on the right sideline in particular comes to mind. but at least they threw that. perhaps that is why they had more running room.
i only had holmes, so it worked out OK for me.
it went about the way i expected it to windwise. brady quinn was affected much more with his weak arm - the deep ball to MM on the right sideline in particular comes to mind. but at least they threw that. perhaps that is why they had more running room.
i only had holmes, so it worked out OK for me.
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
did u play him over AP?EdwardCat said:
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
Actually, I think both of you might have forgotten the Quinn throw to Massaquoi in the first quarter, where the ball sailed well out of bounds at about the PITT 5 yard line (it was about a 30 yard throw). The ball definitely sailed in the wind.Any throw that was in the air more than 1-2 seconds lost its "oomph" and had difficulty getting to the correct spot. Quinn had a couple like that.However, I agree that the gameplan was more influenced than any throw. Very few routes were of the deep variety, and when Pittsburgh did throw >20 yards downfield Big Ben put a lot of mustard on it.
Day Drinker
Footballguy
MOP, I love that you had the balls to come on here and post your thoughts, right or wrong, at least you had an opinion, but I think that Miami heat has thinned your blood a bit too much. The Steelers fantasy performance was poor tonight for several reasons, but the fact that it was #######G freezing certainly contributed to the poor passing game. I don't have the stats, but I would guess that more times than not, when the wind chill is close to zero the performace of both team's passing games takes a pretty severe hit.
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
The marlins...
Ted Lange as your Bartender
Footballguy
+1 - maybe not "happy", but certainly fine with it.I was happy with what Heath Miller gave my squad.
BroncoFreak_2K3
sucker for Orange
The on field reporter even said that the wind was effecting one end of the field much more than the other. Also, I dont recall seeing too many passes throw over 15+ yards myself....so ya, I think the wind was a factor.Did the wind prevent them from blocking? And no seperation by the WRs either...where did the wind play a factor? Seriously...Redd lined up to kick a 42 yd FG...he nailed the thing right down the middle with room to spare...where was this heavy wind?really unbelievable, even for MOP
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FFdork
Footballguy
This.It's hard to know which throws were the wind, especially when you're talking Brady Quinn, but I also saw several intermediate passes from Quinn and Ben that looked awkward. No matter what, the conditions were influencing the play-calling on offense + the Browns definitely took advantage of the conditions to go man coverage and get after Ben.
We really laughing at MOP in here? He gave an observation, he was dead wrong, and he ate his crow. Lets move on. I dont see many people stating he was wrong before the game started. Geez.
daveR
Footballguy
Chaka
Footballguy
Lots of people suggested he was wrong before the game started.And it was a rather weak mea culpa.
billjohnson
Footballguy
I bench Heath last minute for Finley. Thought it was genius at halftime...now not so sure.+1 - maybe not "happy", but certainly fine with it.I was happy with what Heath Miller gave my squad.
billjohnson
Footballguy
Lighten up fellas...it was obviously a simple typo:
DO NOT SIT GUYS FOR WEATHER TONIGHT
There we go...much better.
DO NOT SIT GUYS FOR WEATHER TONIGHT
There we go...much better.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Maybe Tomlin needs to quit worrying about his fashion statement and get better at coaching. Seriously, it was super cold and he's prancing around with his coat unzipped like a 14 year old. What a dork.
Chaka
Footballguy
Huh? His fashion choices? That's what you care about?
Reaper
Footballguy
Did anyone not see Roethlisberger miss Ward a few times?
Just the fact he was wearing gloves should be ample evidence that the weather was a factor. He didn't even finish his warmups outside.
Almost every skill position guy on the field looked like they wanted to go inside and call it a night. Its one thing to play in 30 deg weather, its another to play in -10 deg weather.
Just the fact he was wearing gloves should be ample evidence that the weather was a factor. He didn't even finish his warmups outside.
Almost every skill position guy on the field looked like they wanted to go inside and call it a night. Its one thing to play in 30 deg weather, its another to play in -10 deg weather.
Phase of the Game
Footballguy
Rovers
Footballguy
MoP, I love to read yer stuff, but you didnt even come CLOSE to eating any crow. I thought you would man up, but you still insist it wasnt the weather. Just admit you were flat out wrong and save some credibilty, but it's likely too late for that now. Very weak showing here.
You were wrong, but you still haven't admitted to that fact.
You were wrong, but you still haven't admitted to that fact.
MoP, I love to read yer stuff, but you didnt even come CLOSE to eating any crow. I thought you would man up, but you still insist it wasnt the weather. Just admit you were flat out wrong and save some credibilty, but it's likely too late for that now. Very weak showing here. You were wrong, but you still haven't admitted to that fact.
Pigskin Fanatic
Footballguy
Wow, you guys are harsh. 
There is something to be said about that offensive line blocking last night though. Two plays I distinctly remember, both on the strong side of the line, the o-lineman went left or right to help on blocking scheme where he was the extra man while leaving the defensive lineman who was lined up directly across from him alone to run to Ben untouched for a sack. It may have been the same guy, I didn't watch that closely. That was just two out of how many plays? With the number of sacks in the game it was like watching David Carr in Houston. Did this guy miss his assignments or was it scheming? I don't know but neither is probably weather related. Pitt has bigger issues than the weather.
I'm happy with what Holmes gave me, 9 points is better than what my alternatives have been giving me, so FWIW this thread helped. Cribbs looked like a one man wrecking crew, if not for him this game woulda been unbearable. I'm sure it actually was unbearable for you
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For the guy who said you benched Ward, I'm guessing his production last night was right where it woulda been in sunny weather. Guts or no guts a bum hammy is a bum hammy.
There is something to be said about that offensive line blocking last night though. Two plays I distinctly remember, both on the strong side of the line, the o-lineman went left or right to help on blocking scheme where he was the extra man while leaving the defensive lineman who was lined up directly across from him alone to run to Ben untouched for a sack. It may have been the same guy, I didn't watch that closely. That was just two out of how many plays? With the number of sacks in the game it was like watching David Carr in Houston. Did this guy miss his assignments or was it scheming? I don't know but neither is probably weather related. Pitt has bigger issues than the weather.
I'm happy with what Holmes gave me, 9 points is better than what my alternatives have been giving me, so FWIW this thread helped. Cribbs looked like a one man wrecking crew, if not for him this game woulda been unbearable. I'm sure it actually was unbearable for you
's.For the guy who said you benched Ward, I'm guessing his production last night was right where it woulda been in sunny weather. Guts or no guts a bum hammy is a bum hammy.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I listened to ESPN all day and announcer after announcer echo'd what I said last night. The weather was not the biggest reason why Pitt lost last night. One of them said if you put the Bills jerseys on them it would have seemed right. I did come in and said pass the crow. I hope owners were able to make the right calls but Ben getting sacked 8 times...Herm Edwards was quoted by Scott Van Pelt that he was running wild in the studio when Pitt threw the ball on 3rd and 1...if the conditions were as bad as the "Ice Bowl" I don't think they would have tried to get cute and throw on 3rd down. Pitt attempted 40 passes last night...32+8 sacks...it was not the weather why they lost but I tried to be polite and said pass the crow. What I failed in more was the fact that Pitt is the suxor right now...they have lost to KC, Oak, and now Cleveland...if you guys say it was the weather, have at it.MoP, I love to read yer stuff, but you didnt even come CLOSE to eating any crow. I thought you would man up, but you still insist it wasnt the weather. Just admit you were flat out wrong and save some credibilty, but it's likely too late for that now. Very weak showing here. You were wrong, but you still haven't admitted to that fact.
HULLOBUDMAN
Footballguy
Eating crow (archaically, eating boiled crow) is an English-language idiom meaning humiliation by admitting wrongness or having been proven wrong after taking a strong position.
This is really what you think you are doing? Sounds to me like you are making excuses. Saying "pass the crow" hardly seems to fit the bill.
This is really what you think you are doing? Sounds to me like you are making excuses. Saying "pass the crow" hardly seems to fit the bill.
Dragon1952
Footballguy
Besides the wind, I think the cold was also a factor, even though it's been said that cold, in and of itself, is not usually much of a factor. But they did mention this was the coldest Cleveland/Pittsburgh match-up ever (I think I heard them say that). If that's true, that's pretty shocking considering the weather back there in December. The wind chill was in the -12 degree area. If the weather wasn't a factor last night, I'll eat all the crow you can push in front of me (as long as I can wash it down with beer). You have to be pretty tough to hit someone as hard as you can when it's -12 below. I mean, you have to REALLY have motivation. Maybe Pittsburgh is just too soft to want it that bad. It really came down to poor tackling and blocking on the Steeler's part.
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Mr. Retukes
Footballguy
I just upped and sat all my Steelers, and I didn't even say good bye to any of them.
