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Do the Packers have a realistic shot at going undefeated? (1 Viewer)

'Khy said:
'gotexansgo said:
put me on board with the ones saying they will lose this week to ATL
I agree with this... it feels like a huge trap game to me. ATL was the NFC leader last year, yet are playing horrible and are lucky to even be 2-2 through 4 games. The Packers are undefeated after dominating Atlanta in the playoffs last year and they look like no one can stop them through 4 games. Think this game ends in high scoring probably somewhere in the ball park of 35-27 or more. ATL wins.
'Inigo Montoya]I do not think it means what you think it means [/QUOTE][/QUOTE]The same Atlanta team that struggled to put TJax down in Seattle? Umm no. It'll be an Norris game said:
JV squad[/I] a gimme to help us push through the stadium. Realistically it'll likely be Chicago or Detroit late. Or the injury bug will hit too many at the same time. Too many thing have to go right and then even if it does all go right it's likely they lock it up early and rest guys either a week or two.
 
In all seriousness, they have a shot. It is a remote shot. There are just too many variables to consider.

Now do I think they will be underdogs in any games going forward if they are healthy? No.

But I do think they'll lose a couple.

They won't let Detroit come from 20 points down though. Detroit is a real enigma right now.

 
In all seriousness, they have a shot. It is a remote shot. There are just too many variables to consider.

Now do I think they will be underdogs in any games going forward if they are healthy? No.

But I do think they'll lose a couple.

They won't let Detroit come from 20 points down though. Detroit is a real enigma right now.
Cmon now even you think they're a good team. Good teams can play well from behind. The enigma is that they're being forced to play from behind so often.

Plus you gotta be careful with that talk or Detroit fans will hunt you down.

 
'Jake22 said:
Gotta think Rodgers gets dinged up somewhere like last year which will slow him down a bit, someday a team will go undefeated in a 16 game schedule...I just don't see this as the team to do it.

Lock for homefield advantage in playoffs, however, and return to the SB this year.
Not sure if you are joking, or can you not remember 2007? :confused:
 
In all seriousness, they have a shot. It is a remote shot. There are just too many variables to consider.

Now do I think they will be underdogs in any games going forward if they are healthy? No.

But I do think they'll lose a couple.

They won't let Detroit come from 20 points down though. Detroit is a real enigma right now.
Cmon now even you think they're a good team. Good teams can play well from behind. The enigma is that they're being forced to play from behind so often.

Plus you gotta be careful with that talk or Detroit fans will hunt you down.
They are a good team no doubt. This was actually part of my point.
 
'Jake22 said:
Gotta think Rodgers gets dinged up somewhere like last year which will slow him down a bit, someday a team will go undefeated in a 16 game schedule...I just don't see this as the team to do it.

Lock for homefield advantage in playoffs, however, and return to the SB this year.
Not sure if you are joking, or can you not remember 2007*? :confused:
fixed.
 
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The same Atlanta team that struggled to put TJax down in Seattle? Umm no.
Atlanta is a completely different team at home than they are on the road. That is gonna be a battle this Sunday night, and I won't be the least bit surprised if the Falcons win. The Packers are the class of the NFL right now, but even the best teams usually lose a game or two along the way.
 
In all seriousness, they have a shot. It is a remote shot. There are just too many variables to consider. Now do I think they will be underdogs in any games going forward if they are healthy? No. But I do think they'll lose a couple. They won't let Detroit come from 20 points down though. Detroit is a real enigma right now.
Came to post this.
 
Possible not probable, for one thing are just one Aarron Rodgers concussion away from being much less effective on offense.

 
'JuSt CuZ said:
To predict anyone to go undefeated, shows how out of touch you are with the reality of the situation...and how you are a prisoner of the moment.Remember only 2 teams ever have gone undefeated in the reg season, to think its that easy is comical.Everything has to go right, you forget, this team went 10-6 last year. Finley and Grant (Whos already hurt) dont give them 6 extra wins. Especially with a very good team who is on a mission in the same division.They lose to Detroit in Detroit on Thxgiv in front of a sold out crowd who has been waiting for a year like this for a long time. Plus, add to the fact Detroit has gotten better and beat them last year, you know, when they knocked the boy wonder out opf the game.
Please point out who is predicting they go undefeated.Sometimes i think you post just to see yourself post.:roflmao:
 
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'Tony Jabroni said:
'Eminence said:
Eh, they're suspect. I pick the Vikings, Buccaneers, Lions, and Raiders as teams whom could beat them. The only impressive victory so far was over the Saints.
Really? :lmao: :lmao: I'll give you everyone but the Vikes. They are a JV team. (Hi Arctic Edge!)Of your other 3, I see the Lions, Raiders (love them), and Bucs in that order. IMO, the Bucs don't stand a chance. IMO.
Hi Tony,I hope the Vikes give you a nice big #### burger to eat.AE
 
'JuSt CuZ said:
To predict anyone to go undefeated, shows how out of touch you are with the reality of the situation...and how you are a prisoner of the moment.

Remember only 2 teams ever have gone undefeated in the reg season, to think its that easy is comical.

Everything has to go right, you forget, this team went 10-6 last year. Finley and Grant (Whos already hurt) dont give them 6 extra wins. Especially with a very good team who is on a mission in the same division.

They lose to Detroit in Detroit on Thxgiv in front of a sold out crowd who has been waiting for a year like this for a long time. Plus, add to the fact Detroit has gotten better and beat them last year, you know, when they knocked the boy wonder out opf the game.
Please point out who is predicting they go undefeated.
He also apparently believes that someone said it would be "easy"... :loco: THIS is how I picture our good pal JuSt CuZ.

And, of course, "LOL" ...

 
'Hov34 said:
That is a super bowl champion's schedule? Wow.
Since they finished 2nd place in their division, they got a 2nd place team's schedule. Every year, you play the teams in your division twice (six games), each division gets two divisions (this year the NFC North got the AFC West and the NFC South) and you get two teams that also finished in the same spot in their division as you did (for the Packers this year, that is the Giants and the Rams, who also finished 2nd place in their divisions last year).
 
I still think that the Packers are a great team but if they play my Saints on a Neutral field they lose that first game. Just my opinion but a damn good one. Anyway its next to impossible to repeat and I do think they will go to the playoffs if Rogers stays healthy, maybe even the NFC Championship. Hopefully they don't have home field advantage for that one.

 
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'Raider Nation said:
Four down, twelve to go. I see only three potential difficult games, which are in bold for your viewing pleasure.

==========================

9/8 vs. New Orleans Saints - WON 42-34

9/18 @ Carolina Panthers - WON 30-23

9/25 @ Chicago Bears - WON 27-17

10/2 vs. Denver Broncos - WON 49-23

10/9 @ Atlanta Falcons

10/16 vs. St. Louis Rams

10/23 @ Minnesota Vikings

-BYE-

11/6 @ San Diego Chargers

11/14 vs. Minnesota Vikings

11/20 vs. Tampa Bay Buccaneers

11/24 @ Detroit Lions

12/4 @ New York Giants

12/11 vs. Oakland Raiders

12/18 @ Kansas City Chiefs

12/25 vs. Chicago Bears

1/1 vs. Detroit Lions
11/24 @ Detroit Lions (lose)12/4 @ New York Giants (lose)

12/11 vs. Oakland Raiders (lose)

12/18 @ Kansas City Chiefs

12/25 vs. Chicago Bears (lose)

1/1 vs. Detroit Lions (lose)

They will be unbeaten until Thanksgiving. Then they lose to the Lions where Rodgers will receive a severe concussion and he will miss the rest of the regular season. They lose 5 of the last 6 but still finish 11-5 and get to the NFC Championship game.

 
To predict anyone to go undefeated, shows how out of touch you are with the reality of the situation...and how you are a prisoner of the moment.

Remember only 2 teams ever have gone undefeated in the reg season, to think its that easy is comical.

Everything has to go right, you forget, this team went 10-6 last year. Finley and Grant (Whos already hurt) dont give them 6 extra wins. Especially with a very good team who is on a mission in the same division.

They lose to Detroit in Detroit on Thxgiv in front of a sold out crowd who has been waiting for a year like this for a long time. Plus, add to the fact Detroit has gotten better and beat them last year, you know, when they knocked the boy wonder out opf the game.
Please point out who is predicting they go undefeated.
He also apparently believes that someone said it would be "easy"... :loco: THIS is how I picture our good pal JuSt CuZ.

And, of course, "LOL" ...
HFS :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

 
they could have lost t CHI if that horrible penalty wasn't called when the Bears pulled to within 3 on that punt return.
Hipple with the dumbest post of the year.If your Aunt had balls, she'd be your Uncle.What a load of nonsense.Are you and justCuz the same person?
 
To predict anyone to go undefeated, shows how out of touch you are with the reality of the situation...and how you are a prisoner of the moment.

Remember only 2 teams ever have gone undefeated in the reg season, to think its that easy is comical.

Everything has to go right, you forget, this team went 10-6 last year. Finley and Grant (Whos already hurt) dont give them 6 extra wins. Especially with a very good team who is on a mission in the same division.

They lose to Detroit in Detroit on Thxgiv in front of a sold out crowd who has been waiting for a year like this for a long time. Plus, add to the fact Detroit has gotten better and beat them last year, you know, when they knocked the boy wonder out opf the game.
Please point out who is predicting they go undefeated.
He also apparently believes that someone said it would be "easy"... :loco: THIS is how I picture our good pal JuSt CuZ.

And, of course, "LOL" ...
:lmao: Almost exactly my thoughts! Maybe

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'Raider Nation said:
Four down, twelve to go. I see only three potential difficult games, which are in bold for your viewing pleasure.

==========================

9/8 vs. New Orleans Saints - WON 42-34

9/18 @ Carolina Panthers - WON 30-23

9/25 @ Chicago Bears - WON 27-17

10/2 vs. Denver Broncos - WON 49-23

10/9 @ Atlanta Falcons

10/16 vs. St. Louis Rams

10/23 @ Minnesota Vikings

-BYE-

11/6 @ San Diego Chargers

11/14 vs. Minnesota Vikings

11/20 vs. Tampa Bay Buccaneers

11/24 @ Detroit Lions

12/4 @ New York Giants

12/11 vs. Oakland Raiders

12/18 @ Kansas City Chiefs

12/25 vs. Chicago Bears

1/1 vs. Detroit Lions
No, they play in Detroit and they will lose by double digits there, which is what I said in the preseason, not after the 4-0 start.
 
I'm surprised it took Rodgers four years to lead them to a perfect season. With all the talent on this team, what's the holdup?
- Brett Favre, February 2012.
 
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'Raider Nation said:
Four down, twelve to go. I see only three potential difficult games, which are in bold for your viewing pleasure.==========================9/8 vs. New Orleans Saints - WON 42-349/18 @ Carolina Panthers - WON 30-239/25 @ Chicago Bears - WON 27-1710/2 vs. Denver Broncos - WON 49-2310/9 @ Atlanta Falcons10/16 vs. St. Louis Rams10/23 @ Minnesota Vikings-BYE-11/6 @ San Diego Chargers11/14 vs. Minnesota Vikings 11/20 vs. Tampa Bay Buccaneers11/24 @ Detroit Lions12/4 @ New York Giants12/11 vs. Oakland Raiders 12/18 @ Kansas City Chiefs 12/25 vs. Chicago Bears 1/1 vs. Detroit Lions
11/24 @ Detroit Lions (lose)12/4 @ New York Giants (lose)12/11 vs. Oakland Raiders (lose) 12/18 @ Kansas City Chiefs 12/25 vs. Chicago Bears (lose) 1/1 vs. Detroit Lions (lose)They will be unbeaten until Thanksgiving. Then they lose to the Lions where Rodgers will receive a severe concussion and he will miss the rest of the regular season. They lose 5 of the last 6 but still finish 11-5 and get to the NFC Championship game.
Hahaha, good grief! Do you actually watch football? The packers going undefeated is unlikely, but there is no chance in hell they lose 5 of 6 against any group of teams in the NFL. When comparing the 2011 team to the 2010 team, we need to remember that literally 1/3 of the 2010 team went to the IR. They were signing street free agents to field a team at one point. The point when some of the most regrettable losses happened. Furthermore, the Pack didn't have a semblance of a running threat, as Grant was out and Starks was still getting acclimated from his stint on the PUP list. This is not the 2010 team, it's a lot healthier.

There are clear areas of improvement for the Pack this year, but I feel confident that these will be addressed. Even with the loss of Collins, the secondary isn't nearly as bad as the numbers would indicate. McCarthy has also committed to not 'let up on a lead', a tendency that caused problems in the past. We saw this new mentality last week against Denver, as Rodgers continued to put up points Tecmo Bowl style. This new mentality is encouraging, though I doubt we'll see the 2nd teamers finishing most games, like they did against Denver. There aren't a lot of teams that can outscore the Packers, and teams that have the potential (NO), don't have the D the Packers do.

All that said, I would hazard a guess of 14-2 for the season. One loss against a home NFC North team, probably Detroit, a one loss against where the pack make too many mistakes against a team capable of putting up a lot of points, maybe SD or NY. Of course, I wouldn't be shocked to see them go undefeated either.

 
Eh, they're suspect. I pick the Vikings, Buccaneers, Lions, and Raiders as teams whom could beat them. The only impressive victory so far was over the Saints.
Really? :lmao: :lmao: I'll give you everyone but the Vikes. They are a JV team. (Hi Arctic Edge!)Of your other 3, I see the Lions, Raiders (love them), and Bucs in that order. IMO, the Bucs don't stand a chance. IMO.
Hi Tony,I hope the Vikes give you a nice big #### burger to eat.AE
:goodposting: The funny thing is in our 16 team dynasty I own both Rodgers and Finley. It's all part of my two year plan, but yeah IMO it was the worst draft of the year for me. :bag:
 
they could have lost t CHI if that horrible penalty wasn't called when the Bears pulled to within 3 on that punt return.
But...A. They didn't lose.B. You mean the horrible penalty that was correct and even the guy who held admits it but you still can't?
 
'Raider Nation said:
Four down, twelve to go. I see only three potential difficult games, which are in bold for your viewing pleasure.

==========================

9/8 vs. New Orleans Saints - WON 42-34

9/18 @ Carolina Panthers - WON 30-23

9/25 @ Chicago Bears - WON 27-17

10/2 vs. Denver Broncos - WON 49-23

10/9 @ Atlanta Falcons

10/16 vs. St. Louis Rams

10/23 @ Minnesota Vikings

-BYE-

11/6 @ San Diego Chargers

11/14 vs. Minnesota Vikings

11/20 vs. Tampa Bay Buccaneers

11/24 @ Detroit Lions

12/4 @ New York Giants

12/11 vs. Oakland Raiders

12/18 @ Kansas City Chiefs

12/25 vs. Chicago Bears

1/1 vs. Detroit Lions
No, they play in Detroit and they will lose by double digits there, which is what I said in the preseason, not after the 4-0 start.
Oh, all take some action on that.
 
'Raider Nation said:
Four down, twelve to go. I see only three potential difficult games, which are in bold for your viewing pleasure.

==========================

9/8 vs. New Orleans Saints - WON 42-34

9/18 @ Carolina Panthers - WON 30-23

9/25 @ Chicago Bears - WON 27-17

10/2 vs. Denver Broncos - WON 49-23

10/9 @ Atlanta Falcons

10/16 vs. St. Louis Rams

10/23 @ Minnesota Vikings

-BYE-

11/6 @ San Diego Chargers

11/14 vs. Minnesota Vikings

11/20 vs. Tampa Bay Buccaneers

11/24 @ Detroit Lions

12/4 @ New York Giants

12/11 vs. Oakland Raiders

12/18 @ Kansas City Chiefs

12/25 vs. Chicago Bears

1/1 vs. Detroit Lions
11/24 @ Detroit Lions (lose)12/4 @ New York Giants (lose)

12/11 vs. Oakland Raiders (lose)

12/18 @ Kansas City Chiefs

12/25 vs. Chicago Bears (lose)

1/1 vs. Detroit Lions (lose)

They will be unbeaten until Thanksgiving. Then they lose to the Lions where Rodgers will receive a severe concussion and he will miss the rest of the regular season. They lose 5 of the last 6 but still finish 11-5 and get to the NFC Championship game.
They're more likely to go undefeated than to lose five of their last six, Rodgers or no Rodgers.
 
'Raider Nation said:
Four down, twelve to go. I see only three potential difficult games, which are in bold for your viewing pleasure.

==========================

9/8 vs. New Orleans Saints - WON 42-34

9/18 @ Carolina Panthers - WON 30-23

9/25 @ Chicago Bears - WON 27-17

10/2 vs. Denver Broncos - WON 49-23

10/9 @ Atlanta Falcons

10/16 vs. St. Louis Rams

10/23 @ Minnesota Vikings

-BYE-

11/6 @ San Diego Chargers

11/14 vs. Minnesota Vikings

11/20 vs. Tampa Bay Buccaneers

11/24 @ Detroit Lions

12/4 @ New York Giants

12/11 vs. Oakland Raiders

12/18 @ Kansas City Chiefs

12/25 vs. Chicago Bears

1/1 vs. Detroit Lions
No, they play in Detroit and they will lose by double digits there, which is what I said in the preseason, not after the 4-0 start.
Not saying that what you're predicting won't happen, but it bears mentioning that it hasn't happened to them (losing by double digits) in two years.
 
Four down, twelve to go. I see only three potential difficult games, which are in bold for your viewing pleasure.

==========================

9/8 vs. New Orleans Saints - WON 42-34

9/18 @ Carolina Panthers - WON 30-23

9/25 @ Chicago Bears - WON 27-17

10/2 vs. Denver Broncos - WON 49-23

10/9 @ Atlanta Falcons

10/16 vs. St. Louis Rams

10/23 @ Minnesota Vikings

-BYE-

11/6 @ San Diego Chargers

11/14 vs. Minnesota Vikings

11/20 vs. Tampa Bay Buccaneers

11/24 @ Detroit Lions

12/4 @ New York Giants

12/11 vs. Oakland Raiders

12/18 @ Kansas City Chiefs

12/25 vs. Chicago Bears

1/1 vs. Detroit Lions
Well, yeah, they do have a realistic shot.

A couple years ago the Saints started out 13-0 with games vs the Pats, Giants, Jets, Eagles all looking pretty daunting at the time, and the Colts were something near that too.

Thing is: 1. teams get tired, and 2. an unbeaten start leads coaches to start sitting players for the playoffs so they're rested.

It also takes a good deal of luck.

The 72 Dolphins had 2 wins of 2 points or less:

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/mia/1972.htm

The 07 Pats had 3 wins of 4 points or less:

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nwe/2007.htm

The 85 Bears decimated absolutely everybody (no one got closer than a TD).... except for teh game vs the Dolphins in which McMahon got hurt and was replaced by an incompetent Steve Fuller:

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/chi/1985.htm

 
'jon_mx said:
I don't see anyone beating them this year. I doubt anyone will come within 10 points of them as long as Rodgers stays healthy.
Yeah, except for the three times it already happened.
Yeah that's a ridiculous thing to say given the big plays the defense has been allowing. If ECB is so confident then he'll be happy to know he should get at least 9-10 chances to put action on the Packers giving less then 10 points. It's like free money!
 
Thread title is wrong. It should read "Do the Packers Lions have a realistic shot at going undefeated? "

:excited:

-QG

 
Four down, twelve to go. I see only three potential difficult games, which are in bold for your viewing pleasure.==========================9/8 vs. New Orleans Saints - WON 42-349/18 @ Carolina Panthers - WON 30-239/25 @ Chicago Bears - WON 27-1710/2 vs. Denver Broncos - WON 49-2310/9 @ Atlanta Falcons10/16 vs. St. Louis Rams10/23 @ Minnesota Vikings-BYE-11/6 @ San Diego Chargers11/14 vs. Minnesota Vikings 11/20 vs. Tampa Bay Buccaneers11/24 @ Detroit Lions12/4 @ New York Giants12/11 vs. Oakland Raiders 12/18 @ Kansas City Chiefs 12/25 vs. Chicago Bears 1/1 vs. Detroit Lions
11/24 @ Detroit Lions (lose)12/4 @ New York Giants (lose)12/11 vs. Oakland Raiders (lose) 12/18 @ Kansas City Chiefs 12/25 vs. Chicago Bears (lose) 1/1 vs. Detroit Lions (lose)They will be unbeaten until Thanksgiving. Then they lose to the Lions where Rodgers will receive a severe concussion and he will miss the rest of the regular season. They lose 5 of the last 6 but still finish 11-5 and get to the NFC Championship game.
Hahaha, good grief! Do you actually watch football? The packers going undefeated is unlikely, but there is no chance in hell they lose 5 of 6 against any group of teams in the NFL. When comparing the 2011 team to the 2010 team, we need to remember that literally 1/3 of the 2010 team went to the IR. They were signing street free agents to field a team at one point. The point when some of the most regrettable losses happened. Furthermore, the Pack didn't have a semblance of a running threat, as Grant was out and Starks was still getting acclimated from his stint on the PUP list. This is not the 2010 team, it's a lot healthier.

There are clear areas of improvement for the Pack this year, but I feel confident that these will be addressed. Even with the loss of Collins, the secondary isn't nearly as bad as the numbers would indicate. McCarthy has also committed to not 'let up on a lead', a tendency that caused problems in the past. We saw this new mentality last week against Denver, as Rodgers continued to put up points Tecmo Bowl style. This new mentality is encouraging, though I doubt we'll see the 2nd teamers finishing most games, like they did against Denver. There aren't a lot of teams that can outscore the Packers, and teams that have the potential (NO), don't have the D the Packers do.

All that said, I would hazard a guess of 14-2 for the season. One loss against a home NFC North team, probably Detroit, a one loss against where the pack make too many mistakes against a team capable of putting up a lot of points, maybe SD or NY. Of course, I wouldn't be shocked to see them go undefeated either.
They didn't do it without Aaron Rodgers, and if you think they have a shot with Matt Flynn your smoking some good ####! My prediction was that Rodgers goes down for the remainder of the regular season at that Detroit game. If that happens then it's not a far fetched idea that they lose 5 of their last 6 games. If Rodgers doesn't get hurt then of course they wont lose 5 of their last 6. It was a bold prediction, that's all. I understand that they did it with a lot of injuries last season but Aaron Rodgers isn't a replaceable player. They can't sign someone off of the street, at that position, and expect to keep things going. IF Rodgers goes down then they have NO chance that's all I'm saying. The Lions knocked him out of the game last year IIRC and the Lions defense is better this year. Now the chances of this all happening is slim but it's still just a fun little prediction.
 
Four down, twelve to go. I see only three potential difficult games, which are in bold for your viewing pleasure.

==========================

9/8 vs. New Orleans Saints - WON 42-34

9/18 @ Carolina Panthers - WON 30-23

9/25 @ Chicago Bears - WON 27-17

10/2 vs. Denver Broncos - WON 49-23

10/9 @ Atlanta Falcons

10/16 vs. St. Louis Rams

10/23 @ Minnesota Vikings

-BYE-

11/6 @ San Diego Chargers

11/14 vs. Minnesota Vikings

11/20 vs. Tampa Bay Buccaneers

11/24 @ Detroit Lions

12/4 @ New York Giants

12/11 vs. Oakland Raiders

12/18 @ Kansas City Chiefs

12/25 vs. Chicago Bears

1/1 vs. Detroit Lions
I understand that my prediction that Aaron Rodgers going out for the remainder of the season, because of the Lions Thanksgiving game, is unlikely. However even if he is in there, I still say they do no better than .500 in this stretch.11/24 @ Detroit Lions

12/4 @ New York Giants

12/11 vs. Oakland Raiders

12/18 @ Kansas City Chiefs

12/25 vs. Chicago Bears

1/1 vs. Detroit Lions

Both of the Lions games are tough ones. the Giants have a run game and that alone gives them a shot. (Keep Rodgers on the sideline as long as possible and they could do it.) The Raiders for the same reason as the Giants. (also those players will be playing the rest of the season for Al.) Chiefs will probably be an easy win. Bears always play the Packers hard. I think the best they do is 3-3 in that stretch. I'd be willing to put up a sig bet if anyone wants to.

 
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I hate to say it but I think they have an excellant chance of going undefeated. Detriot might be able to keep pace with them on offense but I don't think the Detriot defense is there yet.

 

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