Do you agree with Eagles' decision making Vick the starter? (1 Viewer)

[Jason Wood]

Like I said, a few games against better competition and we'll all know more about this team. I hope it's for the better, as I'm sure you do too.

We're not talking about the team. We're talking about Vick and how he's played. Vick has played All Pro, best of his life football thus far in the 3 games he's had. A simple recognition to this would be sufficient. It makes sense to temper the enthusiasm but you are coming across as unreasonable when it comes to giving him any credit at all. The guy has accounted for 920 yds of offense and 7 TDs with no turnovers in 2.75 games. That is All Pro production. Of course he isn't likely to continue to put up ridiculous numbers like that over the course of the entire season. That would be 4900 yds, 37 TDs and 0 turnovers for a full season. It seems like you are just continually playing the let's wait and see card knowing that eventually he is bound to have a down game.

Again, he's played 2.5 games. Just as I wasn't going to anoint Kevin Kolb a star in the making after two starts last year (something that proved the appropriate way to look at things by the way even though most were more than willing to project them as relevant into 2010), I'm not ready to say the Eagles made the right decision in trading McNabb and then benching Kolb yet. I'm a season ticket holder, and I think I have 10 years on this board of being a far more calm and reserved Eagles fan than is typically thought of. I don't overreact if I can help it (like any fan that's hard sometimes). So far, so good? Sure. But I need to see it against teams I feel are legitimate opponents before I let the giddiness creep in.

He's not a rookie. It's been 2.5 games for the Eagles. He's a three time pro-bowler who won on the road in the playoffs in Lambeau.This is the best he's ever looked and he's looked good before. Don't act like his resume is the same as Kolb.

He's also the QB we were able to school in the playoffs, and who ALWAYS won games against OK/subpar defenses but rarely beat good defenses. As Eagles fans, were were told giving up McNabb was the right move because he could ONLY TAKE US SO FAR. So anything short of that is a failure. Does ANYONE think Vick is going to take this team farther than McNabb could have?

 

[Joe Bryant]

Does ANYONE think Vick is going to take this team farther than McNabb could have?

Hey Woodrow,Not sure I'm following you. I'm going to guess that tons of people think Vick can take them further than McNabb could.Stodgy old Tom Jackson is calling Vick the MVP of the league so far. You think everyone would say McNabb would take them further than Vick could right now?J

 

[Otis]

Does ANYONE think Vick is going to take this team farther than McNabb could have?

Sure why cant that beq posible?He is a better athlete than mcnabb, and if he has finally put together the mental part of the game and is throwing the ball more accurately, i don't see why this seems so ridiculous to you. Mcnabb was good but he was the guy who could never get you the results at the end of the day. It wouldn't shock me to see them be more successful with Vick. Im no eagles fan, but thats an outsider's two cents.

 

[Jason Wood]

Does ANYONE think Vick is going to take this team farther than McNabb could have?

Hey Woodrow,Not sure I'm following you. I'm going to guess that tons of people think Vick can take them further than McNabb could.

Stodgy old Tom Jackson is calling Vick the MVP of the league so far. You think everyone would say McNabb would take them further than Vick could right now?

J

Let me rephrase. Does anyone in their right mind think Vick will take this team farther than McNabb would?

 

[jurb26]

Let me rephrase. Does anyone in their right mind think Vick will take this team farther than McNabb would?

Maybe you could tell us exactly how far this team would go with McNabb and then we could all answer the question. I know one thing. There is no way McNabb could take them further than Vick has to this point. Vick has started and played in 2 whole games. He has won both of them.

 

[Jason Wood]

Let me rephrase. Does anyone in their right mind think Vick will take this team farther than McNabb would?

Maybe you could tell us exactly how far this team would go with McNabb and then we could all answer the question. I know one thing. There is no way McNabb could take them further than Vick has to this point. Vick has started and played in 2 whole games. He has won both of them.

And if this were a 3-game season, Vick would be the MVP.No one hopes he keeps this up more than me, but I don't need to draw conclusions yet.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Does ANYONE think Vick is going to take this team farther than McNabb could have?

Hey Woodrow,Not sure I'm following you. I'm going to guess that tons of people think Vick can take them further than McNabb could.

Stodgy old Tom Jackson is calling Vick the MVP of the league so far. You think everyone would say McNabb would take them further than Vick could right now?

J

Let me rephrase. Does anyone in their right mind think Vick will take this team farther than McNabb would?

I would say Yes.

I like the 2010 Eagles with Mike Vick as the starter better than I'd like the 2010 Eagles with Donovan McNabb as the starter.

I've seen enough to think Vick has returned as the QB we'd seen in Atlanta PLUS more. He's more mature and it seems like he "gets it". (much credit to McNabb of course)

I think he's more dynamic, more athletic and brings more to the team than McNabb would.

Why are you so adamant that you'd say say no to the question of "Does ANYONE think Vick is going to take this team farther than McNabb could have?"

J

 

[Jason Wood]

Does ANYONE think Vick is going to take this team farther than McNabb could have?

Hey Woodrow,Not sure I'm following you. I'm going to guess that tons of people think Vick can take them further than McNabb could.

Stodgy old Tom Jackson is calling Vick the MVP of the league so far. You think everyone would say McNabb would take them further than Vick could right now?

J

Let me rephrase. Does anyone in their right mind think Vick will take this team farther than McNabb would?

I would say Yes.

I like the 2010 Eagles with Mike Vick as the starter better than I'd like the 2010 Eagles with Donovan McNabb as the starter.

I've seen enough to think Vick has returned as the QB we'd seen in Atlanta PLUS more. He's more mature and it seems like he "gets it". (much credit to McNabb of course)

I think he's more dynamic, more athletic and brings more to the team than McNabb would.

Why are you so adamant that you'd say say no to the question of "Does ANYONE think Vick is going to take this team farther than McNabb could have?"

J

1) I hope you're right2) For now we'll agree to disagree

3) I look forward to revisiting this in a month or so and seeing if you still feel that way

 

[GoBirds]

Does ANYONE think Vick is going to take this team farther than McNabb could have?

Hey Woodrow,Not sure I'm following you. I'm going to guess that tons of people think Vick can take them further than McNabb could.

Stodgy old Tom Jackson is calling Vick the MVP of the league so far. You think everyone would say McNabb would take them further than Vick could right now?

J

Let me rephrase. Does anyone in their right mind think Vick will take this team farther than McNabb would?

I would say Yes.

I like the 2010 Eagles with Mike Vick as the starter better than I'd like the 2010 Eagles with Donovan McNabb as the starter.

I've seen enough to think Vick has returned as the QB we'd seen in Atlanta PLUS more. He's more mature and it seems like he "gets it". (much credit to McNabb of course)

I think he's more dynamic, more athletic and brings more to the team than McNabb would.

Why are you so adamant that you'd say say no to the question of "Does ANYONE think Vick is going to take this team farther than McNabb could have?"

J

1) I hope you're right2) For now we'll agree to disagree

3) I look forward to revisiting this in a month or so and seeing if you still feel that way

What do you really feel this team would have been capable of with McNabb this year? I think after the poundings at the hands of the Cowboys end of the year and him beginning to lose the young lockeroom maybe another wildcard loss? If we got there. Vick will obviously struggle more than he has but I don't see how the perceived ceiling with McNabb would be too much higher if at all.

 

[Jason Wood]

What do you really feel this team would have been capable of with McNabb this year? I think after the poundings at the hands of the Cowboys end of the year and him beginning to lose the young lockeroom maybe another wildcard loss? If we got there. Vick will obviously struggle more than he has but I don't see how the perceived ceiling with McNabb would be too much higher if at all.

I'm not sure this is a playoff team regardless of who's under center. But I certainly think when the dust settles, McNabb would've had the team with more wins than either Kolb or Vick will. But again, unlike many who seem to be fixated on staking a claim to Vick's "greatness" after 3 weeks, I'm not coming to conclusions yet. I want to see Vick do what he's done (or a close proximity to it) against better competition over the next few weeks. If he does that? I'll be a believer and be giddy. If he doesn't? I won't be surprised and won't be reversing course b/c I never let myself get caught up in the hype.

 

[bweiser]

What do you really feel this team would have been capable of with McNabb this year? I think after the poundings at the hands of the Cowboys end of the year and him beginning to lose the young lockeroom maybe another wildcard loss? If we got there. Vick will obviously struggle more than he has but I don't see how the perceived ceiling with McNabb would be too much higher if at all.

I'm not sure this is a playoff team regardless of who's under center. But I certainly think when the dust settles, McNabb would've had the team with more wins than either Kolb or Vick will. But again, unlike many who seem to be fixated on staking a claim to Vick's "greatness" after 3 weeks, I'm not coming to conclusions yet. I want to see Vick do what he's done (or a close proximity to it) against better competition over the next few weeks. If he does that? I'll be a believer and be giddy. If he doesn't? I won't be surprised and won't be reversing course b/c I never let myself get caught up in the hype.

When is this 'better competition' that you speak of? Next week it's the Redskins. They gotten shellacked two weeks in a row. Then it's the 9ers, who just gave up 3 TDs and 250 yards to Matt Freaking Cassel. You think either of those teams is a threat? I don't.

 

[Jason Wood]

What do you really feel this team would have been capable of with McNabb this year? I think after the poundings at the hands of the Cowboys end of the year and him beginning to lose the young lockeroom maybe another wildcard loss? If we got there. Vick will obviously struggle more than he has but I don't see how the perceived ceiling with McNabb would be too much higher if at all.

I'm not sure this is a playoff team regardless of who's under center. But I certainly think when the dust settles, McNabb would've had the team with more wins than either Kolb or Vick will. But again, unlike many who seem to be fixated on staking a claim to Vick's "greatness" after 3 weeks, I'm not coming to conclusions yet. I want to see Vick do what he's done (or a close proximity to it) against better competition over the next few weeks. If he does that? I'll be a believer and be giddy. If he doesn't? I won't be surprised and won't be reversing course b/c I never let myself get caught up in the hype.

When is this 'better competition' that you speak of? Next week it's the Redskins. They gotten shellacked two weeks in a row. Then it's the 9ers, who just gave up 3 TDs and 250 yards to Matt Freaking Cassel. You think either of those teams is a threat? I don't.

So the Eagles don't have tougher opponents coming up on the schedule? Well then let's book our tickets for the Bowl!

 

[GoBirds]

What do you really feel this team would have been capable of with McNabb this year? I think after the poundings at the hands of the Cowboys end of the year and him beginning to lose the young lockeroom maybe another wildcard loss? If we got there. Vick will obviously struggle more than he has but I don't see how the perceived ceiling with McNabb would be too much higher if at all.

I'm not sure this is a playoff team regardless of who's under center. But I certainly think when the dust settles, McNabb would've had the team with more wins than either Kolb or Vick will. But again, unlike many who seem to be fixated on staking a claim to Vick's "greatness" after 3 weeks, I'm not coming to conclusions yet. I want to see Vick do what he's done (or a close proximity to it) against better competition over the next few weeks. If he does that? I'll be a believer and be giddy. If he doesn't? I won't be surprised and won't be reversing course b/c I never let myself get caught up in the hype.

When is this 'better competition' that you speak of? Next week it's the Redskins. They gotten shellacked two weeks in a row. Then it's the 9ers, who just gave up 3 TDs and 250 yards to Matt Freaking Cassel. You think either of those teams is a threat? I don't.

So the Eagles don't have tougher opponents coming up on the schedule? Well then let's book our tickets for the Bowl!

Sounds good, would love to see them do it in Dallas' stadium. What section do we want to sit in?