Ditka Butkus
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Can we start a thread that has the term poor black trash in it?------If not, maybe we should change this thread title------Just an observation. Discuss
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Do You Hide The Fact You Came From Poor White Trash? (1 Viewer)
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When did poor blue collar families that had to drink powdered milk become white trash? If anything these are the hard working heroes who built America and made a better life for their kids. White trash are people who collect their powdered milk from the government because they don't have job and try to sell it to get money for meth.
MC Gas Money
Footballguy
Poor and educated arent mutually exclusive.Zow said:
MC Gas Money
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Limp Ditka
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Gandalf the Grey
Footballguy
Just to be clear with my anecdote...I'm not ashamed of growing up poor per se, lots of people do, and I agree that being poor doesn't make one "white trash". That's a loaded term that encompasses so much more than money. I posted earlier about growing up in a "Jerry Springer" lifestyle. That's the part that I think adds the "white trash" component.My parents were hard workers-my Dad is still the hardest working man I've ever seen..by far. There was sooo much more beyond the fact of being poor though. Won't go into most of it, but I always had a real tough time accepting that there was money for beer (lots of it...daily and often until 2am including school nights) and cigarettes when the three kids ate garbage and dressed as homeless kids (exaggerating a little). Fried bologna and Spam, but beer to go around. And fighting. And not valuing education at all, and so much more.
So it's not just the being poor. I've always been a defender of the poor. Hell, it could have even been worse for me and my siblings.. My family at least had a minimal support system that many poor-particularly minority poor-don't have, that enabled him to climb into the middle class.
Dad was dirt poor when he grew up. He used to tell us stories, no indoor bathroom but an outdoor outhouse with a hole in the ground. House heated by a wood stove, so cold in the upstairs bedrooms that he and HIS siblings would huddle under piles of blankets in the winter. It's not just being poor that makes someone white trash. Not even sure I can articulate what it is.
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IQ Question #1: Which one subgroup does not belong? Coonass, White Trash, Redneck, Hillbilly
wikkidpissah
Footballguy
we need an offdee scale. want to contribute pecko'wood and jackaninny as levels, but am not qualified to rank.
Cliff Clavin
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Treynwreck3
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MC Gas Money
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#2: In the sequence, 55 – 288 – 539 – 1628, each term after the first is determined by multiplying by X and then adding Y. If X and Y are each greater than zero, and if they are integers, then what does the term X + Y equal?
MC Gas Money
Footballguy
You cant throw out math formulas I have never done.
If you could direct me to an explanation of the formula then I could go on to solve the equation.
belljr
Footballguy
Sorry, miss type. I took it to the IQ thread so I didn't hijack this on.your second number is wrong
Zow
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kutta
Footballguy
I didn't grow up poor, but I started my adult life pretty much destitute. My life has been very weird. My dad was into some BAD stuff and was killed in the back of a taxi when I was in high school. My mom and I didn't get along and I moved into my own apartment starting my senior year of high school. We didn't talk for five years, so I had no safety net and nowhere to go except to my crummy apartment that I paid for working at Peter Piper Pizza.
So it's hard to give my work associates my whole story, but when I do, I find I get more respect from them for what I've been through.
If anyone's interested, I'll start a thread some day entitled, "My dad was a bank robber. Ask me anything."
So it's hard to give my work associates my whole story, but when I do, I find I get more respect from them for what I've been through.
If anyone's interested, I'll start a thread some day entitled, "My dad was a bank robber. Ask me anything."
St. Louis Bob
Footballguy
I hide it by wearing cat shirts and being a drunken buffoon.
Limp Ditka
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elguapo07
Footballguy
4th of 6 kids raised by a single mom whose husband took off on her and her 6 kids when she was in her late 20s. Dad never paid he a cent (it was possible back then since his sister worked in the court system and lost his records). Taken in by my maternal grandmother for a time as my paternal grandparents were kind enough to "let her family worry about the kids". So I got all the entitlements growing up at the time, public housing, free lunch, govt cheese, powdered milk etc.. Proud of my mom for holding it together just so we'd have a punchers chance.
5 out of the 6 of us went to college, so most of us "made it" and are now middle class. I never forgave my dad for leaving us and for never giving my mom a cent while he was living the life. We were better off without him as him and his entire family are all alcoholics and can't get out of their own an way. I'm thankful for the people in my life that always pointed me in the right direction when I came up to that fork in the road of life - coaches, uncle, friends and friends dad's always seemed to be looking out for me and my siblings.
Still have the fantasy of buying my mother a house one day before her health fails her. Intend to pay it forward at some point in my life and try to help out kids/families in similar situation today. Will be 48 in a few months and I've been working in some capacity since I was 10 and have been fortunate to always have a job - block, tackle and follow the ball is what I was told to do years ago when I first played football.
Looking back I wouldn't change a thing as it made me the determined, motivated, relentless and grateful tough sob that I am today.
5 out of the 6 of us went to college, so most of us "made it" and are now middle class. I never forgave my dad for leaving us and for never giving my mom a cent while he was living the life. We were better off without him as him and his entire family are all alcoholics and can't get out of their own an way. I'm thankful for the people in my life that always pointed me in the right direction when I came up to that fork in the road of life - coaches, uncle, friends and friends dad's always seemed to be looking out for me and my siblings.
Still have the fantasy of buying my mother a house one day before her health fails her. Intend to pay it forward at some point in my life and try to help out kids/families in similar situation today. Will be 48 in a few months and I've been working in some capacity since I was 10 and have been fortunate to always have a job - block, tackle and follow the ball is what I was told to do years ago when I first played football.
Looking back I wouldn't change a thing as it made me the determined, motivated, relentless and grateful tough sob that I am today.
glumpy
breeze
You are certainly not alone in hiding where you came from but it's not something I would do--it's part of what made you who you are. There will always be some parts of our upbringing that we like and some we don't--just as there are some of our own actions and attitudes growing up which we like and others we don't--but that's natural, and I expect maybe universal. We don't always want to air what seems like dirty laundry but we should at least recognize those influences for ourselves. Just my .02
Apple Jack
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My 76 year old mother did it by telling all the women around her suggesting she be more subservient to find some free ride fella to #### off and putting herself through college and getting a full ride to grad school at Duke.
I just put the 40 in a paper bag.
I just put the 40 in a paper bag.
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cstu
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Doctor Detroit
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Growing up in a tough environment gives you one distinct advantage as an adult: range. I can talk to a a senior government official and to a street urchin with the same amount of ease, I'm unphased by peoples idiosyncrasies. Grew up lower middle class but I went to elementary school and middle school with poor white and black trash. I am a little less comfortable with white trash but the chicks love me, so I learned to like them over the years for the most part. I prefer to socialize with these types of people even to this day, you won't catch me at a yacht club party anytime soon.
I have no issue with people leaving their tough upbringing behind, but it's hard to take the Detroit out of the boy. I don't want to, it gives me an edge over almost everyone IMO. Many of my cousins and my sister don't have the same advantages, because they never left where they came from. I have a lot of bright people in my family, but my grandparents on both sides were hard lower middle class folk and I like what they passed onto me. I never wanted to be anyone else, I love where I am from and who I am.
I have no issue with people leaving their tough upbringing behind, but it's hard to take the Detroit out of the boy. I don't want to, it gives me an edge over almost everyone IMO. Many of my cousins and my sister don't have the same advantages, because they never left where they came from. I have a lot of bright people in my family, but my grandparents on both sides were hard lower middle class folk and I like what they passed onto me. I never wanted to be anyone else, I love where I am from and who I am.
Doctor Detroit
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Government grilled cheese sandwiches on Wonderbread and watered down Kool-Aid at my best buddies house growing up still brings back strong positive memories. I still think Velvetta is the best damn cheese for a grilled cheese, my woman and many of my friends think I'm gross. Oh well.tipsy mcstagger said:
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Judge Smails
Footballguy
Grew up poor. Dad was a DJ and a short order cook outside of Vegas who didn't make much money and liked to gamble. Not good. Went out for "milk" when I was 8 and I didn't see him again for 13 years. My Mom dropped out of school when she was 15, had me at 18, and was on our own with 3 kids when she was 26. Move in with my Grandmother. While she was the rock of our family, she was hardened by an alcoholic husband, 2 heroin addicted (1 OD'd in the house and died) sons and a grandson (my cousin who also lived at her house on and off) who committed suicide at 17 after severe depression and regular angel dust episodes.
Food stamps, Medi Cal, subsidized lunches, you name it. I was still a pretty happy kid but did get embarrassed at times because everything was second or third hand. Clothes, shoes, ripped couches, etc. I never was embarrassed of my family, just my situation. I started working at 14, was the first in the family to graduate college, and my wife (who I've known since middle school and who had it way worse than I did) and I have created the exact opposite for our own family. Very proud of that.
Food stamps, Medi Cal, subsidized lunches, you name it. I was still a pretty happy kid but did get embarrassed at times because everything was second or third hand. Clothes, shoes, ripped couches, etc. I never was embarrassed of my family, just my situation. I started working at 14, was the first in the family to graduate college, and my wife (who I've known since middle school and who had it way worse than I did) and I have created the exact opposite for our own family. Very proud of that.
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General Tso
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“Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards.”
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
I'm half white trash and half European. I don't deny where I've come from but I also have a hard time swallowing it. My grandma lives in a double wide trailer in California and my other grandma lives in a home she bought with her life savings which's value has dropped significantly.
We aren't rich. We're meandering in upper middle class. My parents had three kid and all three of us have completed at least an Associates Degree. The big achiever between my mom, dad, and brothers is my 2nd oldest brother who has a dual-major degree in Business Marketing / Administration.
Back to the basis of the thread. I think white trash knows white trash. I can meet somebody and KNOW if they're going to enjoy white trash humor. I KNOW if I can ignorantly hate on certain groups or ideas and I enjoy it. You are who you are and I don't think you should let society dictate or change what your ancestors thought and what you inherently know to be true.
If I want to smash Miller High Life and laugh my ### off as my friend does a keg stand in my back yard. I will do it. Social status and class is one thing but you can't put a premium on having fun. White trash = lower to middle class to me. And all I can think of is working class folk, having fun on the weekends, playing pool, getting drunk, getting in bar fights, but being loyal to your friends and family.
We aren't rich. We're meandering in upper middle class. My parents had three kid and all three of us have completed at least an Associates Degree. The big achiever between my mom, dad, and brothers is my 2nd oldest brother who has a dual-major degree in Business Marketing / Administration.
Back to the basis of the thread. I think white trash knows white trash. I can meet somebody and KNOW if they're going to enjoy white trash humor. I KNOW if I can ignorantly hate on certain groups or ideas and I enjoy it. You are who you are and I don't think you should let society dictate or change what your ancestors thought and what you inherently know to be true.
If I want to smash Miller High Life and laugh my ### off as my friend does a keg stand in my back yard. I will do it. Social status and class is one thing but you can't put a premium on having fun. White trash = lower to middle class to me. And all I can think of is working class folk, having fun on the weekends, playing pool, getting drunk, getting in bar fights, but being loyal to your friends and family.
top dog
Footballguy
I wouldn't call my upbringing "White Trash"... More "ghetto" I guess... Come from a very diverse community. None of us had money and most of us ended up in prison or broke. There is a group of us that grew up together that still gets together and reflects on how we managed to become successful, rather than "broken".
I've had acquaintances on death row and others who are now six figure success stories.
I'm an IT professional now. The two other guys in my team have similar upbringings. I would say it's more of a badge of honor than something that we would hide. It reminds all of us where we came from.
I've had acquaintances on death row and others who are now six figure success stories.
I'm an IT professional now. The two other guys in my team have similar upbringings. I would say it's more of a badge of honor than something that we would hide. It reminds all of us where we came from.
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