somewhat similar- I'm an architect. when I started, firms were about 50/50 with CAD and hand-drafting.This is a little off topic, but we've been talking a lot about lifestyle changes. But what about your job or careers?
I'm a graphic designer/artist and as a whole that industry has been completely changed by technology.
Back in the day we would have to glue our designs down on mechanical boards. Headlines and body copy would come out in long strips and you would physically have to glue each line down. If there was an error or edit, you would have to cut each letter out by hand and manually re-space them. You would use spray mount and rubber cement indoors all day until you were high as a kite.
Then you would send the boards to the printer to photograph and a stripper (not the dollar dance kind) would manually separate those into 4 color plates (Cyan, magenta, yellow and black) for printing.
They didn't have stock photography, you had to shoot everything and it was supplied on 4x6 chromes. We would have books and books of them. Using a grease pencil to mark up cropping instructions and actual hand retouching instructions.
I was an architecture student back in the day myself. I still have some of my old hand drawn layouts and they bring back so many memories. One of my early teachers was such a stickler for making sure the lines connected perfectly and didn't run past each other. I remember those old drafting desks with the sliding straight edge. good times.somewhat similar- I'm an architect. when I started, firms were about 50/50 with CAD and hand-drafting.
I learned both- which has helped me. not being able to copy/clip and make changes easily sucked with hand drafting- but drawings were always set a specific scale and what wasn't needed at that scale wasn't drawn. people who learn on cad don't understand that and are drafting/drawing everything- even though it'll only get seen at a crazy small scale most of the time and just ends up being mush once printed. there's also a certain freedom to hand-drafting where you're not tied into everything needing to be just right snapping lines to each other (when they don't always need to be).
but we still output to paper for building trades (at least it's just PDFs to the GC at this point). but no more blue-prints- getting high/sick off the ammonia running multiple prints or having the original drawing get bound up and ruined, which meant having to redraw the damn thing.
I still see physical models get built by hand although many of the more upscale firms use 3-d printers for this stuff now. but lots of CAD 3d- and it's hugely useful for figuring things out. but there's something to be said for the design process to have that physical connection between the mind/eye/hand that I think gets lost using a keyboard and monitor... but some of that could be old-fuddy-duddiness.
I took drafting in HS- but there wasn't any CAD yet, especially in HS (even though AutoDesk is from my home town). Even in college, we did it all by hand. In grad school- same- but we got a huge grant for computer research while I was there, so made a shift... but even that was as much animation than "cad". people were doing crazy, crazy #### with it- many of my peers went straight into animation- tv, film, adverstising, gaming... I was an idiot for not going that route.I was an architecture student back in the day myself. I still have some of my old hand drawn layouts and they bring back so many memories. One of my early teachers was such a stickler for making sure the lines connected perfectly and didn't run past each other. I remember those old drafting desks with the sliding straight edge. good times.
I did do a lot of CAD in high school and early college before I changed. I remember 'the puck' which was like a mouse but more of a target type of instrument
Blueprint production was amazing....I forgot about the ammonia smell.
I hear you on the classicness of it. I actually resent how much design I do strictly on the computer now vs starting with a sketch or doodle.
Speaking of school lunches, you’re right, I hated their pizza but does anyone else remember long dogs roll ups? About a foot-long hotdog wrapped in some crescent roll bread. I loved those!Elementary school lunch room pizza - wtf was that?
My dad used to yell down the hall for me and my brother. We'd both emerge, not sure if we were in trouble or not. He'd want one of us to change the channel on the TV itself, and one to flick the switch across the room to turn on the ceiling fan.
I saw someone post something similar here on Friday (can't find the post now) and it came to mind last night when I felt extra lazy and almost called my 6-year old boy in to hand me the remote which was like 3-4 away from me. Just for nostalgia's sake. My parents bought a suburban house in the early 70's and apparently the first owner was in WWII and was a map collector. He had plastered a ton of old European maps up on one wall in our garage. I think it partially led to me being so map-crazy and eventually led to my schooling and even my career now.Re: maps
i have dozens still. always wanted to wallpaper a wall.
the secret was cancelling before your 5 minute preview was up...Watching scrambled porn stations and making out a boob every few minutes.
That's a pretty funny term for... "it".... but ok!the secret was cancelling before your 5 minute preview was up...
My parents would put the back seat down, and then put a twin mattress in there that ran the length of the wagon for me and my two siblings to be comfortable from Ohio to Florida and back.glvsav37 said:long island to Maine and back every summer in the rear seat of my grandfather's wagon. I was a simple rear-end accident from getting snuffed out each time.
Jayrok said:Rolls of film. Disney World trip when my kids were 8 and 11. Took a roll of pics at Animal Kingdom. Then went to Magic Kingdom and when I went to change the roll I noticed the first roll didn't advance after each shot. Came off the little tracks. Me the dopey dad felt compelled to go back to Animal Kingdom and recreate all our shots. Not joking. We went back later in the day and tried again. Turned out the camera was broken and rolls wouldn't scroll. Just wouldn't stay on the track.
So upsetting. Wife was mad at me for dragging them back in time. Kids still laugh/make fun about that day. They voted me worst photographer of the decade. My MIL felt the need to pile on by announcing "I hope you kids see what a silly waste of resources this was." **okay the last sentence is a movie quote but the rest is a true story.
one year at Disneyworld my dad must have taken 50 shots before he realized he didn't have film in the camera.My father did the same, we were in NYC, and his 35mm was much better than my 110, so he told me and my brother that we should take pics using his camera. Ooops!one year at Disneyworld my dad must have taken 50 shots before he realized he didn't have film in the camera.
no, not yet. But Frank Bartles and Ed Jaymes would like to thank you for your support.TheIronSheik said:I didn't read this whole thread, but has anyone said "Pepperidge Farm remembers" yet? If so, nice work. If not, this place has really gone down hill.
Yep. Those and aircraft and tank models. If I built one, I built a thousand.Spent a lot of allowance money on HO scale army men.
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throw in comically over sized sweaters, leggings, baggy pants and the only way to know a girl was a girl was if she got dressed in a separate locker for gym classPadded shoulders making all of us look like football players.
Very cool, never saw that. My young nephews still play on our old 70s Coleco handheld Electronic QB.I still have this Computatmatic Football game.
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Every woman fashion through the 80s -- men never had this, we were stuck with parachute pants, skinny ties, Miami Vice soft pastels and Cosby sweaters.Padded shoulders making all of us look like football players.
You could definitely tell the girls as they were the ones with scrunchies in their overly-crimped huge hair, Jelly bracelets, and neon leg warmers.throw in comically over sized sweaters, leggings, baggy pants and the only way to know a girl was a girl was if she got dressed in a separate locker for gym class
painters pants.throw in comically over sized sweaters, leggings, baggy pants and the only way to know a girl was a girl was if she got dressed in a separate locker for gym class
Easter. The Ten CommandmentsWhen was the last time a broadcast network showed a full movie at night in primetime?
Apologies if it was said, but relatedly the only way to actually see MLB highlights was through the great Mel Allen on This Week In Baseball.Waiting for the morning paper to get scores/stats. I remember vividly wondering as I went to bed, and rushing the next morning to find out who won the ‘83 batting title that came down to the last day between Mattingly and Winfield.
That theme song!Apologies if it was said, but relatedly the only way to actually see MLB highlights was through the great Mel Allen on This Week In Baseball.
”Time for this week’s TWIB notes...from around the National League.”
Love it - gotta get that song for my iTunes library.
i'm not a religious guy by any means but i find myself watching this in its entirety damn near every yearEaster. The Ten Commandments
Bruce Willis wants to talk about Wet and Dryno, not yet. But Frank Bartles and Ed Jaymes would like to thank you for your support.
This is how I view Rudolf every Christmas. And I don't even believe in Santa Claus.i'm not a religious guy by any means but i find myself watching this in its entirety damn near every year
The best was those thick little green bottles that only contained 6.5 ounces. The definition of quality over quantity.Coke with strong carbonation in bottles![]()
I also seem to remember that they aired The Wizard of Oz on Thanksgiving -- but can't remember if that was Canadian or American Thanksgiving.Easter. The Ten Commandments
I looked fwd to that more than the turkey or making fun of my cousins in those pre-VCR days. Don't even think a cable channel does it now.Stompin' Tom Connors said:I also seem to remember that they aired The Wizard of Oz on Thanksgiving -- but can't remember if that was Canadian or American Thanksgiving.
Do they still do that? And if so, how the heck was this flick equated with Thanksgiving in the first place?
I dont remember what holiday it was, but there was one where they played King Kong and Mighty Joe Young back to back. I remember going to my aunt's house and all the cousins would take over the living room to watch those.Stompin' Tom Connors said:I also seem to remember that they aired The Wizard of Oz on Thanksgiving -- but can't remember if that was Canadian or American Thanksgiving.
Do they still do that? And if so, how the heck was this flick equated with Thanksgiving in the first place?
These days you gotta settle for Snoopy preparing popcorn and toast for Charlie Brown and his friends.I looked fwd to that more than the turkey or making fun of my cousins in those pre-VCR days. Don't even think a cable channel does it now.
Dogtoast is the name of my Stooges tribute bandThese days you gotta settle for Snoopy preparing popcorn and toast for Charlie Brown and his friends.
Sounds like that would be a real cool time.Dogtoast is the name of my Stooges tribute band
I watch Canadian, UK, and Australian news and they just report the facts.Remember when news told us facts? It's crazy to think that we live in the most advanced time with the easiest way possible to get news and facts out to people, and people are less informed than probably the 1700's. Any time I read a headline, my first thought is, "Wow. I wonder if that's really true." Sad.
One key to get into the car, another to start it!!!using an actual key to open your car door... sucked in dark parking lots
For reasons I can't entirely explain, when I read this, I thought immediately of the "swish" (flouride treatments) they offered when I was in elementary and middle school. There was nothing worse than coming into the classroom from the bus to see that little cup and brown napkin sitting on the desk waiting for you :XThe smell of a fresh mimeograph (or, the "ditto machine"), and replacing ribbons in a typewriter :sniff:
Never heard of this. What year we talking?The Commish said:For reasons I can't entirely explain, when I read this, I thought immediately of the "swish" (flouride treatments) they offered when I was in elementary and middle school. There was nothing worse than coming into the classroom from the bus to see that little cup and brown napkin sitting on the desk waiting for you :X
Love me some decolator!Walking Boot said:The smell of a fresh mimeograph (or, the "ditto machine"), and replacing ribbons in a typewriter :sniff:
Not sure what @The Commish references, but I do recall in 1st grade we were given red-dye-ish tablets to munch, and then we brushed our teeth without the benefit of a mirror; and then we were presented with a mirror that revealed all the spots we missed. In my case, I brushed about 40%. Such an important life lesson to learn at such a young age. Thank you, California.Never heard of this. What year we talking?The Commish said:For reasons I can't entirely explain, when I read this, I thought immediately of the "swish" (flouride treatments) they offered when I was in elementary and middle school. There was nothing worse than coming into the classroom from the bus to see that little cup and brown napkin sitting on the desk waiting for you :X
They made you do that at school? Ick. That stuff is disgusting. We had floride in the water, so I guess we escaped the horror.The Commish said:For reasons I can't entirely explain, when I read this, I thought immediately of the "swish" (flouride treatments) they offered when I was in elementary and middle school. There was nothing worse than coming into the classroom from the bus to see that little cup and brown napkin sitting on the desk waiting for you :X