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Do You Take Vitamins? (1 Viewer)
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Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
I'll never quite understand the summation given by doctors that typically follow these studies:
Is There Really Any Benefit to Multivitamins?
A recent look at multivitamins by Johns Hopkins researchers shows that there’s no proof of benefit. Find out the one supplement deemed beneficial—and how others failed.www.hopkinsmedicine.org
Save yourself some money off your grocery bill my friend (unless a doctor has advised differently).
And if I don't eat a healthy diet - then what (I generally dislike food)?
"You need your vitamins and you should get them from healthy food."
"I understand that but I don't, and won't eat that healthy."
"Well vitamins from vitamins aren't real vitamins. So you should eat healthy."
And around and around and around...
Anyway, the argument against them just never seems to add up to me. They're called "supplements" not "instead ofs". They might not be as good as food but, depending on the quality of supplement, they're better than not getting the vitamins at all.
Scoresman
Footballguy
I'll never quite understand the summation given by doctors that typically follow these studies:
Is There Really Any Benefit to Multivitamins?
A recent look at multivitamins by Johns Hopkins researchers shows that there’s no proof of benefit. Find out the one supplement deemed beneficial—and how others failed.
Save yourself some money off your grocery bill my friend (unless a doctor has advised differently).
And if I don't eat a healthy diet - then what (I generally dislike food)?
"You need your vitamins and you should get them from healthy food."
"I understand that but I don't, and won't eat that healthy."
"Well vitamins from vitamins aren't real vitamins. So you should eat healthy."
And around and around and around...
Anyway, the argument against them just never seems to add up to me. They're called "supplements" not "instead ofs". They might not be as good as food but, depending on the quality of supplement, they're better than not getting the vitamins at all.
From what I understand, you need to be seriously malnourished for a multivitamin to do any good. That means most people who don’t go to bed starting every night shouldn’t really need them outside of extreme situations.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Somebody throw me a lifeline here, thank you Andy!I'll never quite understand the summation given by doctors that typically follow these studies:
Is There Really Any Benefit to Multivitamins?
A recent look at multivitamins by Johns Hopkins researchers shows that there’s no proof of benefit. Find out the one supplement deemed beneficial—and how others failed.
Save yourself some money off your grocery bill my friend (unless a doctor has advised differently).
And if I don't eat a healthy diet - then what (I generally dislike food)?
"You need your vitamins and you should get them from healthy food."
"I understand that but I don't, and won't eat that healthy."
"Well vitamins from vitamins aren't real vitamins. So you should eat healthy."
And around and around and around...
Anyway, the argument against them just never seems to add up to me. They're called "supplements" not "instead ofs". They might not be as good as food but, depending on the quality of supplement, they're better than not getting the vitamins at all.
-It's gotta help for some folks that don't get enough of them in their regular diets which IMO has to be a large section of the population
Do you have a specific brand or two you recommend or what should one be looking for?
Scoresman
Footballguy
Somebody throw me a lifeline here, thank you Andy!I'll never quite understand the summation given by doctors that typically follow these studies:
Is There Really Any Benefit to Multivitamins?
A recent look at multivitamins by Johns Hopkins researchers shows that there’s no proof of benefit. Find out the one supplement deemed beneficial—and how others failed.
Save yourself some money off your grocery bill my friend (unless a doctor has advised differently).
And if I don't eat a healthy diet - then what (I generally dislike food)?
"You need your vitamins and you should get them from healthy food."
"I understand that but I don't, and won't eat that healthy."
"Well vitamins from vitamins aren't real vitamins. So you should eat healthy."
And around and around and around...
Anyway, the argument against them just never seems to add up to me. They're called "supplements" not "instead ofs". They might not be as good as food but, depending on the quality of supplement, they're better than not getting the vitamins at all.
-It's gotta help for some folks that don't get enough of them in their regular diets which IMO has to be a large section of the population
Do you have a specific brand or two you recommend or what should one be looking for?
If you follow any semblance of a regular diet you are not a part of this “large segment of the population.”
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
So what about those of us that don't go to bed at night and instead hang off the chandeliers?I'll never quite understand the summation given by doctors that typically follow these studies:
Is There Really Any Benefit to Multivitamins?
A recent look at multivitamins by Johns Hopkins researchers shows that there’s no proof of benefit. Find out the one supplement deemed beneficial—and how others failed.
Save yourself some money off your grocery bill my friend (unless a doctor has advised differently).
And if I don't eat a healthy diet - then what (I generally dislike food)?
"You need your vitamins and you should get them from healthy food."
"I understand that but I don't, and won't eat that healthy."
"Well vitamins from vitamins aren't real vitamins. So you should eat healthy."
And around and around and around...
Anyway, the argument against them just never seems to add up to me. They're called "supplements" not "instead ofs". They might not be as good as food but, depending on the quality of supplement, they're better than not getting the vitamins at all.
From what I understand, you need to be seriously malnourished for a multivitamin to do any good. That means most people who don’t go to bed starting every night shouldn’t really need them outside of extreme situations.
-I'm not sure I understood the last part of your post
Scoresman
Footballguy
So what about those of us that don't go to bed at night and instead hang off the chandeliers?I'll never quite understand the summation given by doctors that typically follow these studies:
Is There Really Any Benefit to Multivitamins?
A recent look at multivitamins by Johns Hopkins researchers shows that there’s no proof of benefit. Find out the one supplement deemed beneficial—and how others failed.
Save yourself some money off your grocery bill my friend (unless a doctor has advised differently).
And if I don't eat a healthy diet - then what (I generally dislike food)?
"You need your vitamins and you should get them from healthy food."
"I understand that but I don't, and won't eat that healthy."
"Well vitamins from vitamins aren't real vitamins. So you should eat healthy."
And around and around and around...
Anyway, the argument against them just never seems to add up to me. They're called "supplements" not "instead ofs". They might not be as good as food but, depending on the quality of supplement, they're better than not getting the vitamins at all.
From what I understand, you need to be seriously malnourished for a multivitamin to do any good. That means most people who don’t go to bed starting every night shouldn’t really need them outside of extreme situations.
-I'm not sure I understood the last part of your post
Maybe there’s someone who only eats potatoes and nothing else or somethng. Point is, if you are eating anywhere close to a balanced diet (aka 99%of us) you’re probably just pissing away the extra vitamins from the supplements. Your body doesn’t do anything with the extra vitamins.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
But there are folks who never eat any greens in their diets, it's all just meat n potatoes of one variety or anotherSo what about those of us that don't go to bed at night and instead hang off the chandeliers?I'll never quite understand the summation given by doctors that typically follow these studies:
Is There Really Any Benefit to Multivitamins?
A recent look at multivitamins by Johns Hopkins researchers shows that there’s no proof of benefit. Find out the one supplement deemed beneficial—and how others failed.
Save yourself some money off your grocery bill my friend (unless a doctor has advised differently).
And if I don't eat a healthy diet - then what (I generally dislike food)?
"You need your vitamins and you should get them from healthy food."
"I understand that but I don't, and won't eat that healthy."
"Well vitamins from vitamins aren't real vitamins. So you should eat healthy."
And around and around and around...
Anyway, the argument against them just never seems to add up to me. They're called "supplements" not "instead ofs". They might not be as good as food but, depending on the quality of supplement, they're better than not getting the vitamins at all.
From what I understand, you need to be seriously malnourished for a multivitamin to do any good. That means most people who don’t go to bed starting every night shouldn’t really need them outside of extreme situations.
-I'm not sure I understood the last part of your post
Maybe there’s someone who only eats potatoes and nothing else or somethng. Point is, if you are eating anywhere close to a balanced meal (aka 99%of us) you’re probably just pissing away the extra vitamins from the supplements. Your body doesn’t do anything with the extra vitamins.
99% of folks do not eat balanced diets, are you kidding? Look at the drug commercials that fill up air time each and every day, every hour, over half the commercials run on TV are from one drug company or another, only the USA and i think New Zealand allow these companies to run commercials
Relax Score, we hear you loud and clear, some of us want to take the risky vitamin plunge anyways
dkp993
Footballguy
IMO a lot has to do too with how your body functions. I eat pretty healthy, am not overweight and normally active(outdoors on the weekends) and live in one of the sunniest areas of the country (SoCal). Yet my vit D levels were dangerously low (low single digits). Makes no sense. But it’s just how my body operates. Now that I’m on it I’m in the normal range. Let your Dr lead the way though is my advice.So what about those of us that don't go to bed at night and instead hang off the chandeliers?I'll never quite understand the summation given by doctors that typically follow these studies:
Is There Really Any Benefit to Multivitamins?
A recent look at multivitamins by Johns Hopkins researchers shows that there’s no proof of benefit. Find out the one supplement deemed beneficial—and how others failed.
Save yourself some money off your grocery bill my friend (unless a doctor has advised differently).
And if I don't eat a healthy diet - then what (I generally dislike food)?
"You need your vitamins and you should get them from healthy food."
"I understand that but I don't, and won't eat that healthy."
"Well vitamins from vitamins aren't real vitamins. So you should eat healthy."
And around and around and around...
Anyway, the argument against them just never seems to add up to me. They're called "supplements" not "instead ofs". They might not be as good as food but, depending on the quality of supplement, they're better than not getting the vitamins at all.
From what I understand, you need to be seriously malnourished for a multivitamin to do any good. That means most people who don’t go to bed starting every night shouldn’t really need them outside of extreme situations.
-I'm not sure I understood the last part of your post
Maybe there’s someone who only eats potatoes and nothing else or somethng. Point is, if you are eating anywhere close to a balanced diet (aka 99%of us) you’re probably just pissing away the extra vitamins from the supplements. Your body doesn’t do anything with the extra vitamins.
Scoresman
Footballguy
But there are folks who never eat any greens in their diets, it's all just meat n potatoes of one variety or anotherSo what about those of us that don't go to bed at night and instead hang off the chandeliers?I'll never quite understand the summation given by doctors that typically follow these studies:
Is There Really Any Benefit to Multivitamins?
A recent look at multivitamins by Johns Hopkins researchers shows that there’s no proof of benefit. Find out the one supplement deemed beneficial—and how others failed.
Save yourself some money off your grocery bill my friend (unless a doctor has advised differently).
And if I don't eat a healthy diet - then what (I generally dislike food)?
"You need your vitamins and you should get them from healthy food."
"I understand that but I don't, and won't eat that healthy."
"Well vitamins from vitamins aren't real vitamins. So you should eat healthy."
And around and around and around...
Anyway, the argument against them just never seems to add up to me. They're called "supplements" not "instead ofs". They might not be as good as food but, depending on the quality of supplement, they're better than not getting the vitamins at all.
From what I understand, you need to be seriously malnourished for a multivitamin to do any good. That means most people who don’t go to bed starting every night shouldn’t really need them outside of extreme situations.
-I'm not sure I understood the last part of your post
Maybe there’s someone who only eats potatoes and nothing else or somethng. Point is, if you are eating anywhere close to a balanced meal (aka 99%of us) you’re probably just pissing away the extra vitamins from the supplements. Your body doesn’t do anything with the extra vitamins.
99% of folks do not eat balanced diets, are you kidding? Look at the drug commercials that fill up air time each and every day, every hour, over half the commercials run on TV are from one drug company or another, only the USA and i think New Zealand allow these companies to run commercials
Relax Score, we hear you loud and clear, some of us want to take the risky vitamin plunge anyways
I'd have to look the studies up or someone can verify or correct me, but I'm pretty sure you'd have to be on some strange diet, or starving, to need a multi. Anything resembling a balanced diet should be good as far as I know, so yes the vast majority of us.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Did you notice a difference going from dangerously low vitamin d to normal?IMO a lot has to do too with how your body functions. I eat pretty healthy, am not overweight and normally active(outdoors on the weekends) and live in one of the sunniest areas of the country (SoCal). Yet my vit D levels were dangerously low (low single digits). Makes no sense. But it’s just how my body operates. Now that I’m on it I’m in the normal range. Let your Dr lead the way though is my advice.So what about those of us that don't go to bed at night and instead hang off the chandeliers?I'll never quite understand the summation given by doctors that typically follow these studies:
Is There Really Any Benefit to Multivitamins?
A recent look at multivitamins by Johns Hopkins researchers shows that there’s no proof of benefit. Find out the one supplement deemed beneficial—and how others failed.
Save yourself some money off your grocery bill my friend (unless a doctor has advised differently).
And if I don't eat a healthy diet - then what (I generally dislike food)?
"You need your vitamins and you should get them from healthy food."
"I understand that but I don't, and won't eat that healthy."
"Well vitamins from vitamins aren't real vitamins. So you should eat healthy."
And around and around and around...
Anyway, the argument against them just never seems to add up to me. They're called "supplements" not "instead ofs". They might not be as good as food but, depending on the quality of supplement, they're better than not getting the vitamins at all.
From what I understand, you need to be seriously malnourished for a multivitamin to do any good. That means most people who don’t go to bed starting every night shouldn’t really need them outside of extreme situations.
-I'm not sure I understood the last part of your post
Maybe there’s someone who only eats potatoes and nothing else or somethng. Point is, if you are eating anywhere close to a balanced diet (aka 99%of us) you’re probably just pissing away the extra vitamins from the supplements. Your body doesn’t do anything with the extra vitamins.
Scoresman
Footballguy
IMO a lot has to do too with how your body functions. I eat pretty healthy, am not overweight and normally active(outdoors on the weekends) and live in one of the sunniest areas of the country (SoCal). Yet my vit D levels were dangerously low (low single digits). Makes no sense. But it’s just how my body operates. Now that I’m on it I’m in the normal range. Let your Dr lead the way though is my advice.So what about those of us that don't go to bed at night and instead hang off the chandeliers?I'll never quite understand the summation given by doctors that typically follow these studies:
Is There Really Any Benefit to Multivitamins?
A recent look at multivitamins by Johns Hopkins researchers shows that there’s no proof of benefit. Find out the one supplement deemed beneficial—and how others failed.
Save yourself some money off your grocery bill my friend (unless a doctor has advised differently).
And if I don't eat a healthy diet - then what (I generally dislike food)?
"You need your vitamins and you should get them from healthy food."
"I understand that but I don't, and won't eat that healthy."
"Well vitamins from vitamins aren't real vitamins. So you should eat healthy."
And around and around and around...
Anyway, the argument against them just never seems to add up to me. They're called "supplements" not "instead ofs". They might not be as good as food but, depending on the quality of supplement, they're better than not getting the vitamins at all.
From what I understand, you need to be seriously malnourished for a multivitamin to do any good. That means most people who don’t go to bed starting every night shouldn’t really need them outside of extreme situations.
-I'm not sure I understood the last part of your post
Maybe there’s someone who only eats potatoes and nothing else or somethng. Point is, if you are eating anywhere close to a balanced diet (aka 99%of us) you’re probably just pissing away the extra vitamins from the supplements. Your body doesn’t do anything with the extra vitamins.
Vitamin D is an exception. Lots of people with a deficiency there because we get most of it from the sun, direct contact. From what I understand, there is not a lot of D in food.
dkp993
Footballguy
Yes. I’ve never been a sick person (like if I get sick once a year that’s a lot) and I had a period of a few years where I seemed to be catching every cold and flu. Once I started on them I’ve been back to my normal never really get sick rhythms.Did you notice a difference going from dangerously low vitamin d to normal?IMO a lot has to do too with how your body functions. I eat pretty healthy, am not overweight and normally active(outdoors on the weekends) and live in one of the sunniest areas of the country (SoCal). Yet my vit D levels were dangerously low (low single digits). Makes no sense. But it’s just how my body operates. Now that I’m on it I’m in the normal range. Let your Dr lead the way though is my advice.So what about those of us that don't go to bed at night and instead hang off the chandeliers?I'll never quite understand the summation given by doctors that typically follow these studies:
Is There Really Any Benefit to Multivitamins?
A recent look at multivitamins by Johns Hopkins researchers shows that there’s no proof of benefit. Find out the one supplement deemed beneficial—and how others failed.
Save yourself some money off your grocery bill my friend (unless a doctor has advised differently).
And if I don't eat a healthy diet - then what (I generally dislike food)?
"You need your vitamins and you should get them from healthy food."
"I understand that but I don't, and won't eat that healthy."
"Well vitamins from vitamins aren't real vitamins. So you should eat healthy."
And around and around and around...
Anyway, the argument against them just never seems to add up to me. They're called "supplements" not "instead ofs". They might not be as good as food but, depending on the quality of supplement, they're better than not getting the vitamins at all.
From what I understand, you need to be seriously malnourished for a multivitamin to do any good. That means most people who don’t go to bed starting every night shouldn’t really need them outside of extreme situations.
-I'm not sure I understood the last part of your post
Maybe there’s someone who only eats potatoes and nothing else or somethng. Point is, if you are eating anywhere close to a balanced diet (aka 99%of us) you’re probably just pissing away the extra vitamins from the supplements. Your body doesn’t do anything with the extra vitamins.
Mrs. Rannous
Footballguy
Sorry. It's just expensive pee. If you are concerned, eat a bowl of cereal. It's food and vitamins all in one.
I do take Vitamin D per my doctor's recommendation. If I go out in the sun, I will burst into flames. (I am a pasty white English girl.)
Mrs. Rannous
Footballguy
This should be a fixable thing. You swallow chunks of food larger than this all the time. Technique is everything here.
Some tips.
I always make sure to swallow some water first. It took me a while to figure out what works best for me. You can, too.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Throughout my years I've targeted specific vitamins for durations and noticed no difference so I'd stop. I was about to jump in this thread with my stay fit save your money speech on vitamins. Then I read comments on vitamin d in here. Smh.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I have to chew up my food really small too, can't eat without a large glass of water on stand by in case I get something a little bigger than one of those vitamin capsules going down
I got a little piece of chicken lodged in my throat one time out in California and ended up being a science experiment at the hospital, long story
Major
Footballguy
I think I posted in one of the vitamin threads before but it doesn't get much better than Orange Triad for your multi. High quality and not that cheap synthetic stuff you get with those one a day vitamins at Walgreens. You do have to take 6 pills daily but I don't mind it and break it up 3 after breakfast, 3 after lunch. Also love what it does for my joints with the added glucosamine. If you workout this stuff is great. Been taking it for 10+ years: https://www.amazon.com/Controlled-Labs-Orange-Triad-Multivitamin/dp/B00104I5TS
Mrs. Rannous
Footballguy
Did you get a diagnosis? Cuz it is a treatable thing.
Terminalxylem
Footballguy
No doctor should be making this argument.I'll never quite understand the summation given by doctors that typically follow these studies:
Is There Really Any Benefit to Multivitamins?
A recent look at multivitamins by Johns Hopkins researchers shows that there’s no proof of benefit. Find out the one supplement deemed beneficial—and how others failed.
Save yourself some money off your grocery bill my friend (unless a doctor has advised differently).
And if I don't eat a healthy diet - then what (I generally dislike food)?
"You need your vitamins and you should get them from healthy food."
"I understand that but I don't, and won't eat that healthy."
"Well vitamins from vitamins aren't real vitamins. So you should eat healthy."
And around and around and around...
Anyway, the argument against them just never seems to add up to me. They're called "supplements" not "instead ofs". They might not be as good as food but, depending on the quality of supplement, they're better than not getting the vitamins at all.
Instead, they should note, in the absence of deficiency, no studies have shown benefit from vitamin supplements. On the contrary, many studies have shown no benefit, and some have shown harm. Fat soluble vitamins (ADEK) in particular have toxicity when taken in excess.
A balanced diet provides the optimal milieu to absorb and utilize vitamins and other micronutrients. If one cannot/chooses not to eat healthily, taking vitamins may help an (undiagnosed) deficiency, though we really don’t know.
Terminalxylem
Footballguy
FWIW, I don’t take vitamins routinely, but did while eating one meal a day, during 75 hard.
Of the stuff people commonly take, vitamin D is the one with the best data, as deficiency is common.
Fish oil has been called into question, as the best data supporting its use comes from a methodologically flawed trial, where the placebo they used caused harm - it was a nocebo, which made fish oil look better than reality.
Of the stuff people commonly take, vitamin D is the one with the best data, as deficiency is common.
Fish oil has been called into question, as the best data supporting its use comes from a methodologically flawed trial, where the placebo they used caused harm - it was a nocebo, which made fish oil look better than reality.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
That makes more sense to say - given a balanced diet that provides one with the necessary vitamin intake, additional supplementation would provide no additional benefit. That I can believe.No doctor should be making this argument.I'll never quite understand the summation given by doctors that typically follow these studies:
Is There Really Any Benefit to Multivitamins?
A recent look at multivitamins by Johns Hopkins researchers shows that there’s no proof of benefit. Find out the one supplement deemed beneficial—and how others failed.
Save yourself some money off your grocery bill my friend (unless a doctor has advised differently).
And if I don't eat a healthy diet - then what (I generally dislike food)?
"You need your vitamins and you should get them from healthy food."
"I understand that but I don't, and won't eat that healthy."
"Well vitamins from vitamins aren't real vitamins. So you should eat healthy."
And around and around and around...
Anyway, the argument against them just never seems to add up to me. They're called "supplements" not "instead ofs". They might not be as good as food but, depending on the quality of supplement, they're better than not getting the vitamins at all.
Instead, they should note, in the absence of deficiency, no studies have shown benefit from vitamin supplements. On the contrary, many studies have shown no benefit, and some have shown harm. Fat soluble vitamins (ADEK) in particular have toxicity when taken in excess.
A balanced diet provides the optimal milieu to absorb and utilize vitamins and other micronutrients. If one cannot/chooses not to eat healthily, taking vitamins may help an (undiagnosed) deficiency, though we really don’t know.
Phil Elliott
Footballguy
Palpitations stopped after starting fish oil two years ago. Just my personal experience.
Keerock
Footballguy
HEY LOOK AT ME!IMO a lot has to do too with how your body functions. I eat pretty healthy, am not overweight and normally active(outdoors on the weekends) and live in one of the sunniest areas of the country (SoCal). Yet my vit D levels were dangerously low (low single digits). Makes no sense. But it’s just how my body operates. Now that I’m on it I’m in the normal range. Let your Dr lead the way though is my advice.So what about those of us that don't go to bed at night and instead hang off the chandeliers?I'll never quite understand the summation given by doctors that typically follow these studies:
Is There Really Any Benefit to Multivitamins?
A recent look at multivitamins by Johns Hopkins researchers shows that there’s no proof of benefit. Find out the one supplement deemed beneficial—and how others failed.
Save yourself some money off your grocery bill my friend (unless a doctor has advised differently).
And if I don't eat a healthy diet - then what (I generally dislike food)?
"You need your vitamins and you should get them from healthy food."
"I understand that but I don't, and won't eat that healthy."
"Well vitamins from vitamins aren't real vitamins. So you should eat healthy."
And around and around and around...
Anyway, the argument against them just never seems to add up to me. They're called "supplements" not "instead ofs". They might not be as good as food but, depending on the quality of supplement, they're better than not getting the vitamins at all.
From what I understand, you need to be seriously malnourished for a multivitamin to do any good. That means most people who don’t go to bed starting every night shouldn’t really need them outside of extreme situations.
-I'm not sure I understood the last part of your post
Maybe there’s someone who only eats potatoes and nothing else or somethng. Point is, if you are eating anywhere close to a balanced diet (aka 99%of us) you’re probably just pissing away the extra vitamins from the supplements. Your body doesn’t do anything with the extra vitamins.
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