I vote yes. He has never finished a full season in either college or the NFL (I know only one year) w/o getting injured and missing time. Not sure why that is, but it seems like a trend after 4 years.
Well, this has probably led to the history.Yes. Not really because of his history but more because he won't avoid big hits, he will try and be the hit'ee.
Good point.Well, this has probably led to the history.Yes. Not really because of his history but more because he won't avoid big hits, he will try and be the hit'ee.
How many years do you need before you can say it is more likely than the "average" RB?Jury is still out, give it a few more years.
If I was drafting him #2 overall I'd probably put some thought into it for this year.Jury is still out, give it a few more years.
Shoot, in dynasty startups, I think his ADP is higher than that.Yeah, I think he's gonna have more injuries than the average back. Wouldn't keep me from taking him. He's the kind of guy that puts fantasy teams in the playoffs all by himself.If I was drafting him #2 overall I'd probably put some thought into it for this year.Jury is still out, give it a few more years.
I voted yes for the same reason... usually, if a player can not stay healthy in college... they will not stay healthy in the pros.I vote yes. He has never finished a full season in either college or the NFL (I know only one year) w/o getting injured and missing time. Not sure why that is, but it seems like a trend after 4 years.
4How many years do you need before you can say it is more likely than the "average" RB?Jury is still out, give it a few more years.
J. Stewart.....I voted yes for the same reason... usually, if a player can not stay healthy in college... they will not stay healthy in the pros.I vote yes. He has never finished a full season in either college or the NFL (I know only one year) w/o getting injured and missing time. Not sure why that is, but it seems like a trend after 4 years.
What a great permance by ADP...2-3 times (so far) in this game, he has tried to hurdle would-be tacklers...that worries me....NFL Network about to replay his 296 yard game................NOW.
I think he's slightly more likely to get "banged up" type injuries due to his running style, but not serious (knee) injuries. It's not worth worrying about IMO.His two major injuries were not "prone" injuries.1) Broken collarbone flipping into the endzone.2) Injured knee - hit on the side of the leg.Give him some time to prove otherwise.
Tonight at 10 EST.Gah I can't believe I missed the 296 yard game earlier today. Any idea where I can find this or when they'll be showing it again?
My guide is showing SD vs. Minnesota at 10est.Tonight at 10 EST.Gah I can't believe I missed the 296 yard game earlier today. Any idea where I can find this or when they'll be showing it again?
that would be the gameMy guide is showing SD vs. Minnesota at 10est.Tonight at 10 EST.Gah I can't believe I missed the 296 yard game earlier today. Any idea where I can find this or when they'll be showing it again?
Your guide is correct:http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter?game_id=2931...=REG&week=9My guide is showing SD vs. Minnesota at 10est.Tonight at 10 EST.Gah I can't believe I missed the 296 yard game earlier today. Any idea where I can find this or when they'll be showing it again?
Please provide the detailed statistical analysis proving that players who can't stay healthy in college also will not stay healthy in the pros. TIA.I voted yes for the same reason... usually, if a player can not stay healthy in college... they will not stay healthy in the pros.I vote yes. He has never finished a full season in either college or the NFL (I know only one year) w/o getting injured and missing time. Not sure why that is, but it seems like a trend after 4 years.
Why should anyone need to? Is 4 years in a row not a trend to you?Please provide the detailed statistical analysis proving that players who can't stay healthy in college also will not stay healthy in the pros. TIA.I voted yes for the same reason... usually, if a player can not stay healthy in college... they will not stay healthy in the pros.I vote yes. He has never finished a full season in either college or the NFL (I know only one year) w/o getting injured and missing time. Not sure why that is, but it seems like a trend after 4 years.
Because without the scientific method we'd all still be cavemen.His style is definitely physical. That does put him at more risk than say, someone who doesn't play football at all. The average RB? I don't think he gets more or less injured than the average running back. I am going to look that up.Why should anyone need to? Is 4 years in a row not a trend to you?Please provide the detailed statistical analysis proving that players who can't stay healthy in college also will not stay healthy in the pros. TIA.I voted yes for the same reason... usually, if a player can not stay healthy in college... they will not stay healthy in the pros.I vote yes. He has never finished a full season in either college or the NFL (I know only one year) w/o getting injured and missing time. Not sure why that is, but it seems like a trend after 4 years.
Do you really not understand?Why should anyone need to? Is 4 years in a row not a trend to you?Please provide the detailed statistical analysis proving that players who can't stay healthy in college also will not stay healthy in the pros. TIA.I voted yes for the same reason... usually, if a player can not stay healthy in college... they will not stay healthy in the pros.I vote yes. He has never finished a full season in either college or the NFL (I know only one year) w/o getting injured and missing time. Not sure why that is, but it seems like a trend after 4 years.
LT2 cost me two consecutive championships a few years back. It isn't like the guy has been invincible himself.Donnybrook said:I want to ask the people voting yes this question. How often does the average RB get hurt? I keep thinking that you are holding ADP to some LT2 type standard or some other player who is not your typical RB. I would hazard to guess that on average most RBs miss at least a couple games a season due to injury. ADP seems pretty average in this regard.
he's missed 1 regular season game during his entire career. That's as close to invincible as it getsHowever, this season might be different.LT2 cost me two consecutive championships a few years back. It isn't like the guy has been invincible himself.
Has he been playing FF for longer than that? If you have, then I shouldn't have to prove myself... how about he toss us some injury prone College RBs that have had stellar Injury Free NFL Careers.jurb26 said:Why should anyone need to? Is 4 years in a row not a trend to you?Michael J Fox said:Please provide the detailed statistical analysis proving that players who can't stay healthy in college also will not stay healthy in the pros. TIA.KellysHeroes said:I voted yes for the same reason... usually, if a player can not stay healthy in college... they will not stay healthy in the pros.jurb26 said:I vote yes. He has never finished a full season in either college or the NFL (I know only one year) w/o getting injured and missing time. Not sure why that is, but it seems like a trend after 4 years.
You're the one tossing out random assertions as if they were gospel. Back it up with analysis buddy boy.Has he been playing FF for longer than that? If you have, then I shouldn't have to prove myself... how about he toss us some injury prone College RBs that have had stellar Injury Free NFL Careers.jurb26 said:Why should anyone need to? Is 4 years in a row not a trend to you?Michael J Fox said:Please provide the detailed statistical analysis proving that players who can't stay healthy in college also will not stay healthy in the pros. TIA.KellysHeroes said:I voted yes for the same reason... usually, if a player can not stay healthy in college... they will not stay healthy in the pros.jurb26 said:I vote yes. He has never finished a full season in either college or the NFL (I know only one year) w/o getting injured and missing time. Not sure why that is, but it seems like a trend after 4 years.
I'll just leave this alone... Lets just say I'm giving out friendly advise... if the player is injury prone in college, he will be injury prone in the PROs. Believe it if u want.You're the one tossing out random assertions as if they were gospel. Back it up with analysis buddy boy.
Very True.. Running Backs are at a higher risk than other players on the field... and its not usually if they miss a couple of games during a season around half of the season they play. When I answered yes, I'm expecting him to always miss a couple a games a yr... maybe he'll have one yr of those Westbrook 2007 magic yrs where he makes all 16 games... but that would be a rare one.Donnybrook said:I want to ask the people voting yes this question. How often does the average RB get hurt? I keep thinking that you are holding ADP to some LT2 type standard or some other player who is not your typical RB. I would hazard to guess that on average most RBs miss at least a couple games a season due to injury. ADP seems pretty average in this regard.
Would you say Adrian Peterson has a below average injury risk?
Is there anything behind body type? Compact runners like CuMar, LT and Emmit seem to last longer. There are not a lot of backs with Peterson's frame running for ten years, or even running at all for that matter. I'm not saying he's going to get injured, but the argument that his fantasy value should be altered due to a perceived injury risk is one worth addressing IMHO.I've read a lot of arguments about injury risk and how past history is no indication of future performance. But I can't help but worry about RBs, in particular. The take such a cumulative pounding that I don't see how there isn't some kind of compounding effect of each successive injury. Perhaps Peterson has just had bad luck, but that doesn't mean he's not that much more beaten up now than other backs his age. Does that mean he's more likely to get hurt in the future? I don't know if there's a statistical way to quantify that either way; but it concerns me. I'm less concerned about this notion about his running style. How many HOF-caliber NFL backs didn't invite contact? Honestly, that's par for the course of being a great runner.
LHUCKS...I think body type plays a role, sure. But as you know it's awfully hard to put any weight behind that assertion because, to my knowledge, we've not had any published studies that look to isolate body type in relation to the other factors that impact an NFL running back. As to your assertion that his body type hasn't had much success...I'm not sure I buy into that, though.He's 6'2", 217 pounds...*** Dickerson was 6'3", 220*** Marcus Allen was 6'2", 210*** O.J. Simpson was 6'2", 212I'd say those guys did alright for themselves. And looking back at pictures from their playing days, they looked similar to Peterson. Their height made it seem like they had skinny legs; but the reality is they just had longer torsos, their legs were still powerful and compact.LHUCKS said:Is there anything behind body type? Compact runners like CuMar, LT and Emmit seem to last longer. There are not a lot of backs with Peterson's frame running for ten years, or even running at all for that matter. I'm not saying he's going to get injured, but the argument that his fantasy value should be altered due to a perceived injury risk is one worth addressing IMHO.I've read a lot of arguments about injury risk and how past history is no indication of future performance. But I can't help but worry about RBs, in particular. The take such a cumulative pounding that I don't see how there isn't some kind of compounding effect of each successive injury. Perhaps Peterson has just had bad luck, but that doesn't mean he's not that much more beaten up now than other backs his age. Does that mean he's more likely to get hurt in the future? I don't know if there's a statistical way to quantify that either way; but it concerns me. I'm less concerned about this notion about his running style. How many HOF-caliber NFL backs didn't invite contact? Honestly, that's par for the course of being a great runner.
So just out of curiosity, how far down do you bump him based on his injury risk? Do you put SJackson ahead of him? Addai? Westbrook or Portis? Of those that I mentioned, which ones are not injury prone? Every one of them has missed significant playing time in their career. I guess my point is that injuries come with the position. IMO, Peterson's potential far outweighs the injury risk.LHUCKS said:Is there anything behind body type? Compact runners like CuMar, LT and Emmit seem to last longer. There are not a lot of backs with Peterson's frame running for ten years, or even running at all for that matter. I'm not saying he's going to get injured, but the argument that his fantasy value should be altered due to a perceived injury risk is one worth addressing IMHO.I've read a lot of arguments about injury risk and how past history is no indication of future performance. But I can't help but worry about RBs, in particular. The take such a cumulative pounding that I don't see how there isn't some kind of compounding effect of each successive injury. Perhaps Peterson has just had bad luck, but that doesn't mean he's not that much more beaten up now than other backs his age. Does that mean he's more likely to get hurt in the future? I don't know if there's a statistical way to quantify that either way; but it concerns me. I'm less concerned about this notion about his running style. How many HOF-caliber NFL backs didn't invite contact? Honestly, that's par for the course of being a great runner.
Oh, I definitely agree there are exceptions to the rule...I'm just wondering if you handicap these "unique" body types in terms of taking into account a perceived increased risk of injury.LHUCKS...I think body type plays a role, sure. But as you know it's awfully hard to put any weight behind that assertion because, to my knowledge, we've not had any published studies that look to isolate body type in relation to the other factors that impact an NFL running back. As to your assertion that his body type hasn't had much success...I'm not sure I buy into that, though.He's 6'2", 217 pounds...*** Dickerson was 6'3", 220*** Marcus Allen was 6'2", 210*** O.J. Simpson was 6'2", 212I'd say those guys did alright for themselves. And looking back at pictures from their playing days, they looked similar to Peterson. Their height made it seem like they had skinny legs; but the reality is they just had longer torsos, their legs were still powerful and compact.LHUCKS said:Is there anything behind body type? Compact runners like CuMar, LT and Emmit seem to last longer. There are not a lot of backs with Peterson's frame running for ten years, or even running at all for that matter. I'm not saying he's going to get injured, but the argument that his fantasy value should be altered due to a perceived injury risk is one worth addressing IMHO.I've read a lot of arguments about injury risk and how past history is no indication of future performance. But I can't help but worry about RBs, in particular. The take such a cumulative pounding that I don't see how there isn't some kind of compounding effect of each successive injury. Perhaps Peterson has just had bad luck, but that doesn't mean he's not that much more beaten up now than other backs his age. Does that mean he's more likely to get hurt in the future? I don't know if there's a statistical way to quantify that either way; but it concerns me. I'm less concerned about this notion about his running style. How many HOF-caliber NFL backs didn't invite contact? Honestly, that's par for the course of being a great runner.