PSILOCYBIN
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Does Javon Walker have a realistic chance to play again this year? (1 Viewer)
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lion_crazz
Footballguy
I believe so, as well. Especially with the Broncos in the playoff race.
loose circuits
Footballguy
It's fairly simple. They would have put him on IR if he didn't have a chance to play this year.
There have been numerous reports that are positive. He had one minor setback that I know of, but should be full speed in time for fantasy playoffs.
There have been numerous reports that are positive. He had one minor setback that I know of, but should be full speed in time for fantasy playoffs.
Lemmiwinks
Footballguy
Full speed is optimistic. They were talking about microfracture surgery at one point. He'll be back, but I'm not sure he'll be back to full speed before 2008.
Big Score
Footballguy
I had heard he was doing walk throughs last week and it's possible he can play this coming week. I read that and think it's missing a step-practice. I'd like to hear about some practice time first so I'd guess he's a couple weeks away. Regardless, Cecil or someone will let us know how he looks in practice so we can form a better guess if Shanahan doesn't.
Hey, he only asked if Walker had a realistic chance of playing again, not when that might occur.
Best guess? He's already running again (as of Nov 16th), but not practicing with the team yet. I'd say that looks like he'll be a couple more weeks, just in time for the fantasy playoffs. There was a report on Nov 8th where Shanahan said there was a real outside possibility that he'd be playing against the Titans- obviously that didn't happen, but it shows that Walker is definitely progressing in his recovery.
Sack-Religious
Footballguy
My personal opinion is that it'll be a 1A, 1B situation. When Walker was healthy they were both targetted quite a bit and neither one can really be double-teamed with the other on the field. Add in Scheffler and Graham and someone's bound to be open all the time.
Giants4Life
Footballguy
I think he will play and get hurt again.
They reccomended that he get microfracture surgery, which wouldve shelved him for the season. He elected not to.
It just has that feeling of a "come back, play two games, get hurt, and season over" deal.
They reccomended that he get microfracture surgery, which wouldve shelved him for the season. He elected not to.
It just has that feeling of a "come back, play two games, get hurt, and season over" deal.
packersfan
Footballguy
Broncos receiver Javon Walker believes he'll resume workouts fully this week in preparation for a possible return Sunday at Chicago.
"I did some things to let me know that I can push through a practice," he said, after running pass routes in sweats last week.
Walker had two 100-yard receiving games, but after a Week 3 loss to Jacksonville, was declared inactive twice, then had an arthroscopic clean-out of his right knee.
Walker said a cyst was causing the early-season swelling and discomfort he was experiencing.
"We know the knee's going to come back strong. I'm not doing anything that's going to jeopardize it for the rest of the season and the future," he said.
There had been a report Walker opted against a more serious microfracture procedure that would have ended his season. The receiver previously had surgery after 2005 to fix a torn anterior cruciate ligament, so that prospect was perhaps even more daunting - if it had been true.
Walker was aware of the microfracture talk publicly but maintained the substance of the news was patently false.
"I don't know where that came from. That's not the case," he said. "A microfracture, they would have seen that years ago when . . . I tore my ACL. I think that was just people talking. It was a straight clean-out."
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"I did some things to let me know that I can push through a practice," he said, after running pass routes in sweats last week.
Walker had two 100-yard receiving games, but after a Week 3 loss to Jacksonville, was declared inactive twice, then had an arthroscopic clean-out of his right knee.
Walker said a cyst was causing the early-season swelling and discomfort he was experiencing.
"We know the knee's going to come back strong. I'm not doing anything that's going to jeopardize it for the rest of the season and the future," he said.
There had been a report Walker opted against a more serious microfracture procedure that would have ended his season. The receiver previously had surgery after 2005 to fix a torn anterior cruciate ligament, so that prospect was perhaps even more daunting - if it had been true.
Walker was aware of the microfracture talk publicly but maintained the substance of the news was patently false.
"I don't know where that came from. That's not the case," he said. "A microfracture, they would have seen that years ago when . . . I tore my ACL. I think that was just people talking. It was a straight clean-out."
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I just finished reading this article and this part stood out. Does anyone recall Walker 'publicly maintaining' that the microfracture talk was drummed up?
ninerfanatic492000
Footballguy
didn't winslow jr play like an entire season last year on a knee that required microfracture surgery in the offseason? why can't javon play thru it then
This offense was built to feature Walker's specific skills. IMO, he's the #1 for as long as he's playing. I doubt he eats into Marshall's value as much as Stokley's, though.Banger said:
I doubt it. Usually doctors don't clear a player to play if there's a significant risk of re-injury. You still have to fear cascade injuries, I suppose (i.e. injuries that result from Javon overcompensating for his existing injury).Giants4Life said:
It doesn't say that Walker "publicly maintained" anything. It says that there was microfracture talk publicly, and that Javon Walker maintained that it was patently false.redjake said:
What, are you a lawyer?I didn't quote it, I inferred it based on the "maintain(ing)" part suggesting that he's commented on it before.Hadn't read any Walker comments prior about the "substance of the news" being "patently false" and was curious if anyone else had.
The media tends to be loose with the phrase "maintaining", in my experience. I suspect that if he said it was bunk, and then the media responded with "there wasn't any truth at all?", and he said that no, it was total bunk, the media would say that he "maintained" that it was bunk. In other words, I don't think you have to hold a stance from one interview to the next in order to be "maintaining" your stance... you just have to hold that stance over the course of repeated questioning, even if that questioning comes during the course of a single interview.
Makes sense. Thanks SSOG.
Lemmiwinks
Footballguy
cutler's value goes up if walker returns. nice playoff sked.
This is an interesting statement. Can you be more specific as to why you think the offense is built to feature Walker's skills?
Banger
Footballguy
I think it revolves around the deep ball which is Walker's/Cutler's strong suit.
Franknbeans
Footballguy
Javon Walker, Broncos: Walker is optimistic, according to the Rocky Mountain News, that he will resume full practice this week and be ready to start Sunday at Chicago. Walker is recovering from an arthroscopic knee surgery on his previously ACL-reconstructed knee and has been progressing nicely. Prior to the surgery, Walker had been dealing with persistent swelling on the back side of his knee. Walker now says that it was a "cyst" in his knee that was causing the problem. Walker is most likely referring to what is called a Baker's cyst, which is a pouch of synovial fluid (the fluid found normally within the knee joint) that collects and forms a cyst-like structure as an extension of the joint capsule, typically on the back side of the knee. The cyst generally forms in response to some irritation within the knee joint itself. Remove the source of the irritation, which ranges from torn meniscus to cartilage flaps or fraying, and the cyst then typically resolves. If that is indeed the scenario, then Walker should be in much better shape for having had the procedure, and should return strong and without fear of further injury.
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TheFanatic
Footballguy
I think the first practice would be today. I sure hope he does. My trade deadline is tonight and I have a shot at a WR but would cost me future resources. If he comes back I don't need to make the trade. If he doesn't I roll with Edwards, Crayton, Curtis, and Mason at WR for the playoffs.
Exactly in your situation and I pulled the trigger on the deal. I've clinched my division so I've got a little leeway until Week 14. IMO, the motivation for me was watching Andre Johnson come back and light it up. I'm confident in Walker coming back with a vengeance during the Broncos playoff run. At the end of the day, it's a risk / reward scenario, and I thought the reward was far greater than the risk.I think the first practice would be today. I sure hope he does. My trade deadline is tonight and I have a shot at a WR but would cost me future resources. If he comes back I don't need to make the trade. If he doesn't I roll with Edwards, Crayton, Curtis, and Mason at WR for the playoffs.
Sure. Denver said in the offseason that they were going to put an emphasis on the deep ball. Their free agent signings supported this- they went after the strong-armed Patrick Ramsey, who can handle a deep passing offense, while completely ignoring the mobile Jeff Garcia, who wasn't just ideally suited to their old offensive scheme, he was a guy they had made a serious run at the last time he was a free agent. Even in the game against Tennessee, you saw Brandon Stokley going deep down the field a lot more than he historically has in his career.Anyway, when he's healthy, Javon Walker is synonymous with the deep ball. He's the fastest receiver on the roster, the best leaper, and he's the best at tracking the ball in flight. Unless the injury is dramatically impacting his performance (in which case, I don't think the coaches would let him see the field, although certainly they know better than I in this matter), I expect Walker to once again be the focal point of Denver's passing game once he returns to the lineup.
TheFanatic
Footballguy
Did he practice? Anyone know?
Deuce'sWild
Footballguy
11/21/2007 4:27:00 PM et
Javon Walker (knee) returned to Broncos practice on Wednesday.
Walker hasn't practiced since mid-October. It's a great sign that he's back in the mix early in the week. It appears he has a good chance to face Chicago.
Source: denverbroncos.com
Javon Walker (knee) returned to Broncos practice on Wednesday.
Walker hasn't practiced since mid-October. It's a great sign that he's back in the mix early in the week. It appears he has a good chance to face Chicago.
Source: denverbroncos.com
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
I'm glad I picked him up he'd be my WR3 then
AnonymousBob
Footballguy
He's my #3 as well...behind AJ and Braylon!!
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
AJ and Roy Williams for me.Berrian is currently my WR 3He's my #3 as well...behind AJ and Braylon!!
Deuce'sWild
Footballguy
ASSUMING Walker plays, how much do you expect from him.
I'd have to sit either Driver vs Det or Berrian vs Den to play him.
Not sure I trust him enough to do that. What are you guys going to do (play him over who?)
I'd have to sit either Driver vs Det or Berrian vs Den to play him.
Not sure I trust him enough to do that. What are you guys going to do (play him over who?)
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
I'd just wait and see what he does in one game prior to making a roster change.
AnonymousBob
Footballguy
I'm benching Walker for Calvin Johnson. However, I have a trade pending which would leave me with Reggie Brown as my #3. If Brown becomes my #3 I'll send him to the bench and hope Javon puts in a good effort. Hope that helps give you an idea how I value him this weekend.
Construxboy did a study of how players did when they appeared on the injury report compared to how they did when they didn't appear on the injury report. He found that players listed as "questionable" who wound up playing actually scored marginally MORE fantasy points per game than they did in games where they didn't appear on the report at all. I always base my decisions on players returning from injury on this information, now. If he plays, I project him as if he were 100% healthy. Worked pretty well last week for Schaub and Andre Johnson.The big question, of course, is if he will actually play.
