I'm sure I'm not in a position to comment on this as a Yankee fan, but I'm sorry -- this statement is utterly ludicrous.Is the Yankee payroll outrageous relative to the rest of baseball? Sure it is. Is it better for the sport to have one team that can lap the field in payroll or for teams to purposely make themselves worse by getting rid of affordable talent all in the name of turning a profit? We've clearly seen that spending the most money doesn't guarantee a championship. But getting rid of talented players who are in the prime of their careers pretty much guarantees that you won't win a championship.In my opinion...The Yankees having a better shot at winning >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Padres having no shot at winning.The Yankees and Red Sox payroll bothers me. The padres not so much.
The Yankees and Red Sox payroll bothers me. The padres not so much.
You can't really give this issue very much thought to say something like this.The Yankees and Red Sox payroll bothers me. The padres not so much.
Consdiering the Florida Marlins traded every player of any value whatsoever following their 1997 World Series and ended up winning the World Series again just 6 years later, i don't see how one can believe that statement to be true. I guess it would be if they are trading Peavy for absolutely nothing in return, but that isn't the case.I'm sure I'm not in a position to comment on this as a Yankee fan, but I'm sorry -- this statement is utterly ludicrous.Is the Yankee payroll outrageous relative to the rest of baseball? Sure it is. Is it better for the sport to have one team that can lap the field in payroll or for teams to purposely make themselves worse by getting rid of affordable talent all in the name of turning a profit? We've clearly seen that spending the most money doesn't guarantee a championship. But getting rid of talented players who are in the prime of their careers pretty much guarantees that you won't win a championship.The Yankees and Red Sox payroll bothers me. The padres not so much.
In my opinion...
The Yankees having a better shot at winning >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Padres having no shot at winning.
They were when Tom Werner owned them, but that's not relevant to the current situation. All of what's going on now is a result of Moores' divorce -- and years of poor drafting and player development. They're nowhere near ready to contend, and shouldn't be spending just for the sake of it. They should be shooting to contend in 2011 or so.They haven't been ultra-cheap before. I think they'll spend when they re-build it.
Did you sleep thru this past offseason?it bothers me that in this economy professional sports salaries have not been affected. while a significant portion of the rest of the country deals with unemployment and pay cuts, guys with a 6 ERA in 2008 get a raise in arbitration this year. its just not right.
There should be a salary floor, not a ceiling. Fans of cheapo teams deserve at least a shot.
They'd be better off spending the money on player development, draft picks and international FAs than having to spend money on players on the big club that dont deserve the money.There should be a salary floor, not a ceiling. Fans of cheapo teams deserve at least a shot.
Your logic thrown out the window (see Tampa Bay in 2008 for most recent example).I'm sure I'm not in a position to comment on this as a Yankee fan, but I'm sorry -- this statement is utterly ludicrous.Is the Yankee payroll outrageous relative to the rest of baseball? Sure it is. Is it better for the sport to have one team that can lap the field in payroll or for teams to purposely make themselves worse by getting rid of affordable talent all in the name of turning a profit? We've clearly seen that spending the most money doesn't guarantee a championship. But getting rid of talented players who are in the prime of their careers pretty much guarantees that you won't win a championship.In my opinion...The Yankees having a better shot at winning >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Padres having no shot at winning.The Yankees and Red Sox payroll bothers me. The padres not so much.
So you're saying that the Padres plan going forward is similar to what Tampa's plan was? Good one.MaddHatter said:Your logic thrown out the window (see Tampa Bay in 2008 for most recent example).I'm sure I'm not in a position to comment on this as a Yankee fan, but I'm sorry -- this statement is utterly ludicrous.Is the Yankee payroll outrageous relative to the rest of baseball? Sure it is. Is it better for the sport to have one team that can lap the field in payroll or for teams to purposely make themselves worse by getting rid of affordable talent all in the name of turning a profit? We've clearly seen that spending the most money doesn't guarantee a championship. But getting rid of talented players who are in the prime of their careers pretty much guarantees that you won't win a championship.In my opinion...The Yankees having a better shot at winning >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Padres having no shot at winning.The Yankees and Red Sox payroll bothers me. The padres not so much.
Who they can't afford to keepSo you're saying that the Padres plan going forward is similar to what Tampa's plan was? Good one.MaddHatter said:Your logic thrown out the window (see Tampa Bay in 2008 for most recent example).I'm sure I'm not in a position to comment on this as a Yankee fan, but I'm sorry -- this statement is utterly ludicrous.Is the Yankee payroll outrageous relative to the rest of baseball? Sure it is. Is it better for the sport to have one team that can lap the field in payroll or for teams to purposely make themselves worse by getting rid of affordable talent all in the name of turning a profit? We've clearly seen that spending the most money doesn't guarantee a championship. But getting rid of talented players who are in the prime of their careers pretty much guarantees that you won't win a championship.The Yankees and Red Sox payroll bothers me. The padres not so much.
In my opinion...
The Yankees having a better shot at winning >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Padres having no shot at winning.
Peavy being locked into a four year contract that doesn't expire until 2012 is the part you missed here. He's already affordable, and certainly a player to build around. If he was an impending FA and the team was looking to move him for prospects a la Johan, I'd agree with you. But there aren't many aces to be had for $17 mil per season, and giving one up in his prime is stupid. You're telling me the Royals can afford $11 million on Gil Meche but the Pads can't afford $17 mil for Peavy? Ludicrous. They just extended him prior to last season and now that CC and Johan have blown up the pitching market, NOW he's suddenly unaffordable?!?Who they can't afford to keepSo you're saying that the Padres plan going forward is similar to what Tampa's plan was? Good one.MaddHatter said:Your logic thrown out the window (see Tampa Bay in 2008 for most recent example).I'm sure I'm not in a position to comment on this as a Yankee fan, but I'm sorry -- this statement is utterly ludicrous.Is the Yankee payroll outrageous relative to the rest of baseball? Sure it is. Is it better for the sport to have one team that can lap the field in payroll or for teams to purposely make themselves worse by getting rid of affordable talent all in the name of turning a profit? We've clearly seen that spending the most money doesn't guarantee a championship. But getting rid of talented players who are in the prime of their careers pretty much guarantees that you won't win a championship.The Yankees and Red Sox payroll bothers me. The padres not so much.
In my opinion...
The Yankees having a better shot at winning >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Padres having no shot at winning.
is the part you missed here. And they can't afford to keep these players because teams like the Yankees, Sox, Mets, and yes even my Cubs are willing to overpay to acquire their services. Lets face it, the bloated payrolls of these teams, drives up the price of even the average player. Middle to low market teams just can't afford to keep their prime players.
So, we agree: Gil Meche wouldn't/shouldn't be anywhere near $11 mil.........I wasn't really talking about the Pads anymore. More of just a rant about what is wrong with baseball.Peavy being locked into a four year contract that doesn't expire until 2012 is the part you missed here. He's already affordable, and certainly a player to build around. If he was an impending FA and the team was looking to move him for prospects a la Johan, I'd agree with you. But there aren't many aces to be had for $17 mil per season, and giving one up in his prime is stupid. You're telling me the Royals can afford $11 million on Gil Meche but the Pads can't afford $17 mil for Peavy? Ludicrous. They just extended him prior to last season and now that CC and Johan have blown up the pitching market, NOW he's suddenly unaffordable?!?
Given the farm system, SD wont realistically be ready to compete until 2011. By trading Peavy, they can accelerate that time table and cost costs so that they can retain any young talent they acquire as well have funds available to sign a key FA when they actually are ready to compete. It just plain makes baseball sense to trade Peavy.Peavy being locked into a four year contract that doesn't expire until 2012 is the part you missed here. He's already affordable, and certainly a player to build around. If he was an impending FA and the team was looking to move him for prospects a la Johan, I'd agree with you. But there aren't many aces to be had for $17 mil per season, and giving one up in his prime is stupid. You're telling me the Royals can afford $11 million on Gil Meche but the Pads can't afford $17 mil for Peavy? Ludicrous. They just extended him prior to last season and now that CC and Johan have blown up the pitching market, NOW he's suddenly unaffordable?!?
dparker713 said:Given the farm system, SD wont realistically be ready to compete until 2011. By trading Peavy, they can accelerate that time table and cost costs so that they can retain any young talent they acquire as well have funds available to sign a key FA when they actually are ready to compete. It just plain makes baseball sense to trade Peavy.Michael Brown said:Peavy being locked into a four year contract that doesn't expire until 2012 is the part you missed here. He's already affordable, and certainly a player to build around. If he was an impending FA and the team was looking to move him for prospects a la Johan, I'd agree with you. But there aren't many aces to be had for $17 mil per season, and giving one up in his prime is stupid. You're telling me the Royals can afford $11 million on Gil Meche but the Pads can't afford $17 mil for Peavy? Ludicrous. They just extended him prior to last season and now that CC and Johan have blown up the pitching market, NOW he's suddenly unaffordable?!?