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Does the padres payroll not bother anyone? (1 Viewer)

culdeus

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There are players damn near getting paid more than the padres whole ball club.

How bad a shape is this club in and will MLB have to step in like the expos?

 
The Yankees and Red Sox payroll bothers me. The padres not so much.

 
The Yankees and Red Sox payroll bothers me. The padres not so much.
I'm sure I'm not in a position to comment on this as a Yankee fan, but I'm sorry -- this statement is utterly ludicrous.Is the Yankee payroll outrageous relative to the rest of baseball? Sure it is. Is it better for the sport to have one team that can lap the field in payroll or for teams to purposely make themselves worse by getting rid of affordable talent all in the name of turning a profit? We've clearly seen that spending the most money doesn't guarantee a championship. But getting rid of talented players who are in the prime of their careers pretty much guarantees that you won't win a championship.In my opinion...The Yankees having a better shot at winning >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Padres having no shot at winning.
 
Not really. Other than Peavy and Gonzalez they have no good players to pay decent salaries to, and in turn, have no need to splurge in FA on a loser team.

They haven't been ultra-cheap before. I think they'll spend when they re-build it.

 
The Yankees and Red Sox payroll bothers me. The padres not so much.
I'm sure I'm not in a position to comment on this as a Yankee fan, but I'm sorry -- this statement is utterly ludicrous.Is the Yankee payroll outrageous relative to the rest of baseball? Sure it is. Is it better for the sport to have one team that can lap the field in payroll or for teams to purposely make themselves worse by getting rid of affordable talent all in the name of turning a profit? We've clearly seen that spending the most money doesn't guarantee a championship. But getting rid of talented players who are in the prime of their careers pretty much guarantees that you won't win a championship.

In my opinion...

The Yankees having a better shot at winning >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Padres having no shot at winning.
Consdiering the Florida Marlins traded every player of any value whatsoever following their 1997 World Series and ended up winning the World Series again just 6 years later, i don't see how one can believe that statement to be true. I guess it would be if they are trading Peavy for absolutely nothing in return, but that isn't the case.
 
It bothers me that one of the reported reasons for the peavy deal was because the owner was going through a divorce

 
it bothers me that in this economy professional sports salaries have not been affected. while a significant portion of the rest of the country deals with unemployment and pay cuts, guys with a 6 ERA in 2008 get a raise in arbitration this year. its just not right.

 
They haven't been ultra-cheap before. I think they'll spend when they re-build it.
They were when Tom Werner owned them, but that's not relevant to the current situation. All of what's going on now is a result of Moores' divorce -- and years of poor drafting and player development. They're nowhere near ready to contend, and shouldn't be spending just for the sake of it. They should be shooting to contend in 2011 or so.
 
it bothers me that in this economy professional sports salaries have not been affected. while a significant portion of the rest of the country deals with unemployment and pay cuts, guys with a 6 ERA in 2008 get a raise in arbitration this year. its just not right.
Did you sleep thru this past offseason?
 
There should be a salary floor, not a ceiling. Fans of cheapo teams deserve at least a shot.
They'd be better off spending the money on player development, draft picks and international FAs than having to spend money on players on the big club that dont deserve the money.
 
The Yankees and Red Sox payroll bothers me. The padres not so much.
I'm sure I'm not in a position to comment on this as a Yankee fan, but I'm sorry -- this statement is utterly ludicrous.Is the Yankee payroll outrageous relative to the rest of baseball? Sure it is. Is it better for the sport to have one team that can lap the field in payroll or for teams to purposely make themselves worse by getting rid of affordable talent all in the name of turning a profit? We've clearly seen that spending the most money doesn't guarantee a championship. But getting rid of talented players who are in the prime of their careers pretty much guarantees that you won't win a championship.In my opinion...The Yankees having a better shot at winning >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Padres having no shot at winning.
Your logic thrown out the window (see Tampa Bay in 2008 for most recent example).
 
MaddHatter said:
The Yankees and Red Sox payroll bothers me. The padres not so much.
I'm sure I'm not in a position to comment on this as a Yankee fan, but I'm sorry -- this statement is utterly ludicrous.Is the Yankee payroll outrageous relative to the rest of baseball? Sure it is. Is it better for the sport to have one team that can lap the field in payroll or for teams to purposely make themselves worse by getting rid of affordable talent all in the name of turning a profit? We've clearly seen that spending the most money doesn't guarantee a championship. But getting rid of talented players who are in the prime of their careers pretty much guarantees that you won't win a championship.In my opinion...The Yankees having a better shot at winning >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Padres having no shot at winning.
Your logic thrown out the window (see Tampa Bay in 2008 for most recent example).
So you're saying that the Padres plan going forward is similar to what Tampa's plan was? Good one.
 
MaddHatter said:
The Yankees and Red Sox payroll bothers me. The padres not so much.
I'm sure I'm not in a position to comment on this as a Yankee fan, but I'm sorry -- this statement is utterly ludicrous.Is the Yankee payroll outrageous relative to the rest of baseball? Sure it is. Is it better for the sport to have one team that can lap the field in payroll or for teams to purposely make themselves worse by getting rid of affordable talent all in the name of turning a profit? We've clearly seen that spending the most money doesn't guarantee a championship. But getting rid of talented players who are in the prime of their careers pretty much guarantees that you won't win a championship.

In my opinion...

The Yankees having a better shot at winning >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Padres having no shot at winning.
Your logic thrown out the window (see Tampa Bay in 2008 for most recent example).
So you're saying that the Padres plan going forward is similar to what Tampa's plan was? Good one.
Who they can't afford to keep

is the part you missed here. And they can't afford to keep these players because teams like the Yankees, Sox, Mets, and yes even my Cubs are willing to overpay to acquire their services. Lets face it, the bloated payrolls of these teams, drives up the price of even the average player. Middle to low market teams just can't afford to keep their prime players.
 
MaddHatter said:
The Yankees and Red Sox payroll bothers me. The padres not so much.
I'm sure I'm not in a position to comment on this as a Yankee fan, but I'm sorry -- this statement is utterly ludicrous.Is the Yankee payroll outrageous relative to the rest of baseball? Sure it is. Is it better for the sport to have one team that can lap the field in payroll or for teams to purposely make themselves worse by getting rid of affordable talent all in the name of turning a profit? We've clearly seen that spending the most money doesn't guarantee a championship. But getting rid of talented players who are in the prime of their careers pretty much guarantees that you won't win a championship.

In my opinion...

The Yankees having a better shot at winning >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Padres having no shot at winning.
Your logic thrown out the window (see Tampa Bay in 2008 for most recent example).
So you're saying that the Padres plan going forward is similar to what Tampa's plan was? Good one.
Who they can't afford to keep

is the part you missed here. And they can't afford to keep these players because teams like the Yankees, Sox, Mets, and yes even my Cubs are willing to overpay to acquire their services. Lets face it, the bloated payrolls of these teams, drives up the price of even the average player. Middle to low market teams just can't afford to keep their prime players.
Peavy being locked into a four year contract that doesn't expire until 2012 is the part you missed here. He's already affordable, and certainly a player to build around. If he was an impending FA and the team was looking to move him for prospects a la Johan, I'd agree with you. But there aren't many aces to be had for $17 mil per season, and giving one up in his prime is stupid. You're telling me the Royals can afford $11 million on Gil Meche but the Pads can't afford $17 mil for Peavy? Ludicrous. They just extended him prior to last season and now that CC and Johan have blown up the pitching market, NOW he's suddenly unaffordable?!?
 
Peavy being locked into a four year contract that doesn't expire until 2012 is the part you missed here. He's already affordable, and certainly a player to build around. If he was an impending FA and the team was looking to move him for prospects a la Johan, I'd agree with you. But there aren't many aces to be had for $17 mil per season, and giving one up in his prime is stupid. You're telling me the Royals can afford $11 million on Gil Meche but the Pads can't afford $17 mil for Peavy? Ludicrous. They just extended him prior to last season and now that CC and Johan have blown up the pitching market, NOW he's suddenly unaffordable?!?
So, we agree: Gil Meche wouldn't/shouldn't be anywhere near $11 mil.........I wasn't really talking about the Pads anymore. More of just a rant about what is wrong with baseball.
 
Peavy being locked into a four year contract that doesn't expire until 2012 is the part you missed here. He's already affordable, and certainly a player to build around. If he was an impending FA and the team was looking to move him for prospects a la Johan, I'd agree with you. But there aren't many aces to be had for $17 mil per season, and giving one up in his prime is stupid. You're telling me the Royals can afford $11 million on Gil Meche but the Pads can't afford $17 mil for Peavy? Ludicrous. They just extended him prior to last season and now that CC and Johan have blown up the pitching market, NOW he's suddenly unaffordable?!?
Given the farm system, SD wont realistically be ready to compete until 2011. By trading Peavy, they can accelerate that time table and cost costs so that they can retain any young talent they acquire as well have funds available to sign a key FA when they actually are ready to compete. It just plain makes baseball sense to trade Peavy.
 
dparker713 said:
Michael Brown said:
Peavy being locked into a four year contract that doesn't expire until 2012 is the part you missed here. He's already affordable, and certainly a player to build around. If he was an impending FA and the team was looking to move him for prospects a la Johan, I'd agree with you. But there aren't many aces to be had for $17 mil per season, and giving one up in his prime is stupid. You're telling me the Royals can afford $11 million on Gil Meche but the Pads can't afford $17 mil for Peavy? Ludicrous. They just extended him prior to last season and now that CC and Johan have blown up the pitching market, NOW he's suddenly unaffordable?!?
Given the farm system, SD wont realistically be ready to compete until 2011. By trading Peavy, they can accelerate that time table and cost costs so that they can retain any young talent they acquire as well have funds available to sign a key FA when they actually are ready to compete. It just plain makes baseball sense to trade Peavy.
:banned: That team needs a ton of help, and their minor league system is pretty barren (although they have a couple of intriguing young players). They could get some very good talent for Peavy.

 

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