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Doing the Nielsen thing - Any shows you want me to help save? (1 Viewer)
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pollardsvision
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Parenthood.
Also, Happy Endings reruns on VH1.
Also, Happy Endings reruns on VH1.
Statorama
Footballguy
This is exactly the kind of program I'm talking about. Fun little show that never generated enough ratings buzz. Would have loved to have been part of saving it.
Statorama
Footballguy
Ignoratio Elenchi
Footballguy
I'm surprised this is still a thing. I assumed they got all the data they need from digital boxes and whatnot.
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Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
I'm always hoping they see which ads get left the fastest for another station.
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
Firefly
Deadwood
Deadwood
avoiding injuries
Footballguy
I'm not sure how The Goldbergs is doing, but it's my favorite show.
Northern Voice
Footballguy
Community (would have also said parks & Rex but it was just renewed)
Scoresman
Footballguy
Seriously, don't watch any major network dramas, they're all terrible. TV needs more good dramas like the kind you get on AMC and the premium channels. The world needs more Breaking Bads, Sopranos, and Mad Men, not more Law and Order: SUV's and Lost's.
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Gator Shawn
Footballguy
Chuck, again, please.
pollardsvision
Footballguy
I only watch one network drama (Parenthood) at the moment, but being on a network doesn't eliminate a show from being great. The hit rate is obviously far lower, but networks can still put out nice dramas.
Speaking of BB and MM, it's not like AMC is a shoe in for quality anymore either.
Truly great drama is hard to pull off, for any channel.
And what the hell are you talking about with LOST? That was a great show.
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
I'm surprised how much violence NBC's The Blacklist gets away with. But it would be nice if they could show more boobies.
Jaysus
Good times!
Hilts
Footballguy
Another vote for Community.
pollardsvision
Footballguy
Watched the first episode of Community for the first time in a long time last week. That #### was hilarious.
I don't remember why I stopped watching, but I'll have to go back and give it another shot.
Henry Ford
Footballguy
Agents of SHIELD
Mr Show
Henry Ford
Footballguy
Dracula.
Don Quixote
Footballguy
Agree with the Community and Parks & Rec mentions.
To add one to the list, I'll mention Suburgatory. Nothing original or groundbreaking about it, but I enjoy it anyway.
To add one to the list, I'll mention Suburgatory. Nothing original or groundbreaking about it, but I enjoy it anyway.
Only switching channels to catch the Gold Rush/Bering Sea Gold block on Fridays, a good movie on AMC/TNT/IFC, or Adult Swim to catch American Dad and Family Guy reruns. 
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
The McLaughlin Group
Hockey (all of it)
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Statorama
Footballguy
I was thinking the same thing. I was also surprised they didn't have a way for me to enter in the information online. They sent these goofy "diaries" that I mail back once the week is up. Seems very inefficient.
James Daulton
Footballguy
Revolution
CBusAlex
Footballguy
Fennis
Footballguy
A friend of mine is part a Nielson family and they have a box, they don't diary. I thought the diary was for radio ratings only. I guess they collect data multiple ways.
jamny
Footballguy
pollardsvision
Footballguy
I don't agree. Especially, if we're talking "good" drama, as opposed to great or all-time great drama.
The boundaries make it more difficult, but outside of the need to appeal to a broader audience, I don't see the boundaries being insurmountable.
Am I missing something, or couldn't Justified be shown on network TV? Maybe with a slight modification of some language, if that.
Couldn't "Walking Dead" be shown on a network?
What about Mad Men? Though, that's moot because Mad Men would've been cancelled quickly if on a network.
LOST was great drama. 24 was too, at times. Parenthood definitely qualifies as good drama. I hear the The Good Wife could certainly be classified as "good drama" even by prestige drama snob standards (I haven't seen because I'm biased against network dramas, but I plan to get to it someday).
Anyway, it's rare and maybe they can't fully compete with cable or streaming, you can make pretty good drama within the FCC restrictions. Shorter seasons would help, but networks have started looking at that more.
As AMC and Showtime are demonstrating at the moment, it's hard to put out good drama whether you're a network or not.
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sdp1226
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I feel like Lost was a good show, with some great characters, that missed it's chance to be a great show. It got too convoluted, too many story lines that went nowhere. Overall though, I look back on Lost fondly, and am happy that I watched the entire thing. It had some great writing, great acting, one of the few network shows I have ever watched that didn't make me feel like I needed to put my brain on auto-pilot in order to watch it without shaking my head. While the plot wandered, the actors and their dialogue was always top notch I thought.
rick6668
Footballguy
pollardsvision
Footballguy
I'm not sure what you mean by "pretty quickly", but I think most would agree that the show ranged from good to great and highly entertaining for the at least the first 3 seasons (up to "Though the Looking Glass"). That's 72 freaking episodes.
I enjoyed the rest, but after that, there were clearly some issues. Entertaining, but I could see how some would find that later seasons disappointing.
Still, it was an insanely ambitious show that was executed well. I'm not sure how it happened, but I can't imagine anyone else trying to pull off a drama with so many characters, and devoting entire episodes to single characters. An amazing feat to do that and still be very entertaining. For at least 72 episodes.
Statorama
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